Re: [Fwd: a non-profit oddity]

2003-01-07 Thread Alex Tabarrok
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Re: Employment Index Derivatives

2003-01-07 Thread Alex Tabarrok
It's a good idea.  Not much exists yet but Robert Shiller has been 
actively promoting similar ideas for some time.  A good introduction is 
his paper with co-authors in the volume I edited called Entrepreneurial 
Economics: Bright Ideas from the Dismal Science, see

www.EntrepreneurialEconomics.org

Alex

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Re: [Fwd: a non-profit oddity]

2003-01-07 Thread fabio guillermo rojas

Jim said:

>Opera houses have felt the pinch of a weakened economy.  A significant
>number of them have canceled works with the explanation that they were
>substituting obscure works with more popular ones to increase ticket
>sales. I don't think that opera ticket revenue is actually counter
>cyclical, but I still think the phenomenon is pretty funny.  Imagine
>Warner finding out the economy is bad so they greenlight more summer
>blockbusters.

This isn't odd at all - artistic institutions subsidize less popular work
all the time with profits made from "blockbusters." If the profits on
blockbusters are not enough to cover these productions, then you might as
well produce another blockbuster and not go into the red.

Movie studios owners only care about profits, while opera owners consume
both money and art.

Fabio 







Re: FW: History shows paths to market crashes, but lessons seem forgotten

2003-01-07 Thread Bryan D Caplan
Alypius Skinner wrote:

> People aren't always alive in the long-term! Lots of baby boomers are
> approaching retirement when they will begin to draw down their savings.  If
> their savings are being decimated by a bear market at the same time, they
> may not have enough to last them until they die.  

People retiring today can expect to live another 20 years or so.  So
even there it's not clear that heavy equity investment isn't the smart
choice.  As far as I understand the literature on the equity premium
puzzle, this explanation doesn't really work.  And is % of assets in
equity really tightly linked to age anyway?  I suspect that people who
avoid equity when old also avoided when young, and vice versa, but maybe
I'm wrong.

For people who have
> already accumulated a nest egg and may not be young enough to start over,
> capital preservation is rule number one.  So it may be a wise precaution for
> these people to move their wealth into save havens, mainly bonds.  In a few
> years, this movement of baby boomer money into safe havens should drive down
> both the price of stocks and the yield on bonds.
> 
> ~Alypius Skinner

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[Fwd: a non-profit oddity]

2003-01-07 Thread Bryan D Caplan
An interesting observation by my friend Jim.
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Opera houses have felt the pinch of a weakened economy.  A significant
number of them have canceled works with the explanation that they were
substituting obscure works with more popular ones to increase ticket sales.
I don't think that opera ticket revenue is actually counter cyclical, but I
still think the phenomenon is pretty funny.  Imagine Warner finding out the
economy is bad so they greenlight more summer block busters.




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Re: FW: History shows paths to market crashes, but lessons seem forgotten

2003-01-07 Thread AdmrlLocke

In a message dated 1/7/03 11:58:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< > If one had a cynical bent one might suggest that the predominance of
> stories about the small bubbles in the huge cake batter of the miracle of
modern economic growth stems from a prevalence of statists in the news
media.<
> David Levenstam

What about the large bubbles?
Fred Foldvary  >>

Compared to the factor of 25 by which real per capita incomes have grown 
since the Industrial Revolution, there ARE no large bubbles.

David Levenstam




Employment Index Derivatives

2003-01-07 Thread Jonathan Kalbfeld
I've been reading about weather derivatives at
http://www.weatherderivs.com/ and was curious if anyone knew of an
existence of other kinds of derivatives, on things like labor market size,
unemployment rate, CPI, inflation rate, cost of gas at the pump, etc?

Is anyone interested in working on something like this together?  I'm
completely self-educated without so much as a bachelor's degree,
but if there's some PhD out there who's interested in listening to my
ideas, I think this idea could be publishable, and could be an amazing way
for corporations to hedge against fluctuations in availability of product
as well as availability of labor.

Forgive my narrow mind if something like this has already been invented,
but if not I have some ideas as to how to structure put/call contracts to
make sense.  I'm also a licensed NASD rep and can do the nasty research
side of how to make something like this legal and tradable on places like
the CBOE, PCX, and other exchanges.

Who knows?  We might be able to invent a new kind of financial instrument
and maybe win the nobel prize.  Again, I'm a naive college dropout so
please forgive my earnestness.

jonathan




Re: FW: History shows paths to market crashes, but lessons seem forgotten

2003-01-07 Thread Alypius Skinner

The average
> investor would be far better off if they did think that enormous returns
> could continue forever because, in a deep though less dramatic way, they
> DO.  I suspect that a lot of people have been turned off to stock
> ownership for decades in spite of the fact that they are the smart
> long-term bet.
> --

People aren't always alive in the long-term! Lots of baby boomers are
approaching retirement when they will begin to draw down their savings.  If
their savings are being decimated by a bear market at the same time, they
may not have enough to last them until they die.  For people who have
already accumulated a nest egg and may not be young enough to start over,
capital preservation is rule number one.  So it may be a wise precaution for
these people to move their wealth into save havens, mainly bonds.  In a few
years, this movement of baby boomer money into safe havens should drive down
both the price of stocks and the yield on bonds.

~Alypius Skinner





Re: FW: History shows paths to market crashes, but lessons seem forgotten

2003-01-07 Thread Fred Foldvary
--- Bryan D Caplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I find it interesting that there are so many more articles about bubbles
> than about the underlying reality of the equity premium puzzle.  This is
> a nice case where a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.  The average
> investor would be far better off if they did think that enormous returns
> could continue forever because, in a deep though less dramatic way, they
> DO.  I suspect that a lot of people have been turned off to stock
> ownership for decades in spite of the fact that they are the smart
> long-term bet.

Two reason for owning bonds in addition to stocks are:
1) the long run for stocks can be a very long run, so short-term bonds are
used for funds that need to be available sooner.
2) what counts is returns after tax, and the double-taxation of dividends
plus the taxation of nominal rather than real gains reduces the compounding
gain.  For a 50% marginal tax rate, the real wealth return on the DJIA is
only about 2.5%, relative to an untaxed rate of 6.7%.  Thus, a high-income
person may be better off in tax-free municipal bonds after having maxed out
his tax-free retirement accounts.

Fred Foldvary

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Re: FW: History shows paths to market crashes, but lessons seem forgotten

2003-01-07 Thread Fred Foldvary
> If one had a cynical bent one might suggest that the predominance of
> stories about the small bubbles in the huge cake batter of the miracle of
modern economic growth stems from a prevalence of statists in the news
media.<
> David Levenstam

What about the large bubbles?
Fred Foldvary 


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Re: FW: History shows paths to market crashes, but lessons seem forgotten

2003-01-07 Thread AdmrlLocke

In a message dated 1/7/03 12:53:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< I find it interesting that there are so many more articles about bubbles
than about the underlying reality of the equity premium puzzle.  This is
a nice case where a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.  The average
investor would be far better off if they did think that enormous returns
could continue forever because, in a deep though less dramatic way, they
DO.  I suspect that a lot of people have been turned off to stock
ownership for decades in spite of the fact that they are the smart
long-term bet.
-- 
Prof. Bryan Caplan
   Department of Economics  George Mason University >>

If one had a cynical bent one might suggest that the predominance of stories 
about the small bubbles in the huge cake batter of the miracle of modern 
economic growth stems from a prevalence of statists in the news media.

David Levenstam