Re: Accounting and Economics LO27687

2002-01-24 Thread Brenda Rosser

Well, the issues outlined below are being dealt with in a globally diffuse
way. I am in contact with Mike Nickerson in Canada who's organisation is
attempting (seemingly successfully) to switch attitudes away from dodgy
economic accounting to that of measuring the well-being of individuals and
the community.

Here's the email I received today:
Dear Friends of Sustainability:

Just before Christmas I sent notice of the
resolution passed by the City of Ottawa in support of
the Canada Well-Being Measurement Act.

It was a busy time so I'm repeating the notice
here in case some of you who were preoccupied then
might be interested in following up now that we are
safely into the New Year.

Municipal endorsement could be very persuasive.
In one motion, Jean Chrétian, Paul Martin and local MPs
all received word that Bill C-268 was a matter of interest.
In addition, it provided a hook that could make news on
any media in the area.

The Ottawa resolution went like this:

That the City of Ottawa support the goals and
principles contained in Bill C-268, The Canada Well-Being
Measurement Act and that this be communicated to the
Prime Minister, the Finance Minister, all area MPs and
to Mr. Joe Jordan, MP, Leeds-Grenville.

Change the name of the Municipality and this
wording could be used anywhere.

Ken Billings conceived the tactic.  He asked at the
City Office who on Council might be interested in well-being
measurement.  He didn't get the right person at first and had
to follow the run around through several contacts before
finding a Councilor who would bring the information to
Council.  A one page summary was provided and a copy of
Measuring Well-Being (available from us).  We were then
asked to send enough copies for distribution to each Councilor
and the staff involved.
Some time later, the issue came up at the appropriate
Committee, a resolution was proposed, unanimously agreed to
and sent to the Council as a whole where it was adopted.

We would be pleased to send you literature for
raising this issue with your Council.

Imagine if we had a couple dozen municipalities or
more expressing support for the Act.  A half dozen of you asked
for literature toward this end, even during the pre-Christmas rush.
Who else would like to try and get their Council involved?

An added perk for your Municipality:
In addition to introducing the proposal for national
measures, you can tell the local Council that the Federation
of Canadian Municipalities has a program to help set up local well-being
measurement programs.  Information on this is available at:
http://www.fcm.ca  under:
Quality of Life in Canadian Communities
Details are available from:
Marni Cappe, (613) 241-5221, ext. 247
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Brenda Rosser
[Who is also working with groups of local citizens for similar change in
Tasmania]



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  Dear Learners,
 
  I have a few questions. I have a few statements.
 
  Where does the 'buck stop' in modern organizational life?
 
  Who is accountable as a 'leader' -whether as CEO or supervisor?
 
  Is the net result of 'corporate' corruption reversible?
 
  Is someone who drives ordinary and faithful followers to the brink of
  total ruin and maybe even suicide a terrorist by another name?
 
  When will those with enough talent and cleverness to manipulate so many
  systems of privilege to their own advantage create enough intelligence
  within themselves to realise that the time they say they never had
enough
  of doesn't exist?
 
  Why has no-one (so far as I know in the public domain here)  'picked up'
  the tab I offered on the Enron scandal posting I wrote? Is it not a
worthy
  enough as an issue to have a dialogue on then;-) now, in the near
  future...;-)
 
  Tom Johnson the famous ex-accountant, when asked what was 'wrong' with
the
  system of 'corporate business' said there was 'not enough virtue'. He
said
  that '70%' of what 'is wrong' is to do with virtue. Was he a twit? What
is
  virtue worth to corporate life.
 
  As life becomes more transparent a new form of democracy will arise. I
can
  see it arising. All such emergences have lashing tails, vortices. There
is
  pain in abundance at attending such birthings. It will be like a kind of
  madness. Can anyone here sense it upon the far horizon?
 
  Shall we keep on doing what is familiar and plentiful toward our
'limited
  case' mortgages, becoming 'clinically obese' to the point of epidemic
  proportions, our children going 'quietly mad' ( one in five children in
  'developed countries' sic. show signs of clinical depression) while four
  fifths of the world lives on less than two dollars a day?
 
  Where is the virtue, who

Re: Accounting and Economics LO27687

2002-01-22 Thread chris macrae

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 16 January 2002 20:56 PM
Subject: Accounting and Economics LO27687


 Dear Learners,

 I have a few questions. I have a few statements.

 Where does the 'buck stop' in modern organizational life?

 Who is accountable as a 'leader' -whether as CEO or supervisor?

 Is the net result of 'corporate' corruption reversible?

 Is someone who drives ordinary and faithful followers to the brink of
 total ruin and maybe even suicide a terrorist by another name?

 When will those with enough talent and cleverness to manipulate so many
 systems of privilege to their own advantage create enough intelligence
 within themselves to realise that the time they say they never had enough
 of doesn't exist?

 Why has no-one (so far as I know in the public domain here)  'picked up'
 the tab I offered on the Enron scandal posting I wrote? Is it not a worthy
 enough as an issue to have a dialogue on then;-) now, in the near
 future...;-)

 Tom Johnson the famous ex-accountant, when asked what was 'wrong' with the
 system of 'corporate business' said there was 'not enough virtue'. He said
 that '70%' of what 'is wrong' is to do with virtue. Was he a twit? What is
 virtue worth to corporate life.

 As life becomes more transparent a new form of democracy will arise. I can
 see it arising. All such emergences have lashing tails, vortices. There is
 pain in abundance at attending such birthings. It will be like a kind of
 madness. Can anyone here sense it upon the far horizon?

 Shall we keep on doing what is familiar and plentiful toward our 'limited
 case' mortgages, becoming 'clinically obese' to the point of epidemic
 proportions, our children going 'quietly mad' ( one in five children in
 'developed countries' sic. show signs of clinical depression) while four
 fifths of the world lives on less than two dollars a day?

 Where is the virtue, who is the virtuous. Does it matter and do we care?

 Mmm

 Mr. Andrew Campbell MBA
 Oxford
 --
I was in Brussels talking about a similar topic yesterday talking to the
Task Force leader on intangibles.

It turns out that up to 85% of value produced and destroyed by large
companies today is not within the remit of accountants, who measure the
other 15% tangible/tranacrtional part with such dominating precision that it
is all that some organisations get driven by. Even more strangely this seems
to suit certain types of managers:

Here's an extract from my diary notes that I post elsewhere:
There are at least 2 types of corporate executives who find that
accountants' measurement blindness to what determines 85% of Value
Productivity/Destruction suits them:

the semi-incompetent: if you published the intangible maps of their
business, many of their investment decisions would look blind,
random...embarassing!

those who are making a killing because they obey all the insider and
disclosure rules because the intangibles information which really matters on
whether this company is investing in something valuable isnt being asked for
( understood in the dynamically unique corporate context). So they can do
mother of all inside dealing without any danger of the law ever calling it
that.

This must be the greatest scandal impacting every human being's value
productivity the world has ever faced without anyone 'knowing'.

If there's anyone in these learning organisation or economics groups or
elsewhere who feels that we should develop a sub-chapter to discuss this
all -and decide who we can lobby - I think the subject's big enough to
demand that we do this now. The net should be a very good medium for an
activist refromation of this sort

Below I reproduce para 115/6 of the EU report which you can link to via the
bookmark at the bottom and which mirror reports recently issued from
Brookings in Washington DC seem to have mirrored:

115. In our expert soundings, the growing disconnect between our established
economic
concepts and business models and today's rapidly-changing economic reality
was readily and
universally acknowledged. At a personal level, interest is invariably high,
but the professional
appetite and commitment of policy makers to embrace change were found to be
disappointingly
low. In this respect, the responses most often encountered were:
a) Apathy, lack of interest.
b) Active resistance to change.
c) White papers and communications that embrace the rhetoric, but fail to
address what is
really needed to implement change.
116. If the recommendations set out in this report are not to be
implemented, we would
strongly prefer it to be as a result of the second response. In other words,
we would prefer a
conscious decision to remain locked in to a 19 th century institutional
mindset, not least because
this would constitute a conscious decision to opt out of the global
competitiveness race. We
would be disappointed with response a), especially if it reflected a lack of
clear communication
on our part and thus