Re: falling murder rates attributable to better trauma care?

2002-08-14 Thread AdmrlLocke


In a message dated 8/14/02 3:38:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Here's a link to a NY Times article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/12/national/12MURD.html?ex=1030256121ei=1en=4

ca972cf978300ff 

It refers to a study by  Anthony R. Harris, published in the journal Homicide 
Studies.  He studies hospital admissions of assault victims, and finds that 
substantial advances in trauma care have reduced mortality among assault 
victims.  That is, given an assault, the victim who would have died in 1960 
(becoming a murder statistic) survives the assault in the 1990s.  Thus, some  
of the declining murder rate since the 1960s may be attributable to better 
health care, not lessened murderous behavior.

Has anyone seen the study?  If so, does the finding appear genuine?  As the 
news article sums up, [T]he study could raise questions about how
crime statistics are analyzed, and that researchers should
consider whether medical care has improved when assessing
local changes in crime rates.  Interesting stuff for the econ of crime folks.

Noel 

As I  understand it, rates of all crimes, violent and non-violent, have 
trended downward since around 1980, and that in the 1990s we actually saw 
drops in the numbers (not merely rates per thousand) of crimes of all types 
committed in the US.  The largest factor tending to reduce crime rates might 
be an aging population, since young men tend to commit a disproportionately 
large share of crimes (I presume excluding white collar crimes, but with the 
advent of crimes by computer hacking, I'm not sure if that's true anymore 
either).

While improvements in medical care might well account for a simple drop in 
the rate of murder (or even in the number of murders), how could it account 
for a drop in the rate (to say nothing of the number) of assaults?  Even the 
aging of the population does not seems able to account for an actual drop in 
the number of assaults when the size of the population continues to increase.

I do know that states which have passed general concealed carry permit laws 
have seen rather drastic drops in the rate of homicide and other violent 
crimes; I'm most familiar with the case of Florida, which experienced a drop 
in one year from 50% over the national average (of homicides) to just under 
the national average--an average that itself was falling, even I believe if 
you take the average of only the other 49 states.  Medical improvements seem 
incapable of explaining such sudden drops, which I understand have been 
mirrored in each of the other states that has passed general concealed carry. 
 It seems likely that concealed carry has itself contributed to drops in 
murder (and other violent crime) rates.

Concealed carry didn't really start until the 1990s, so obviously it can't 
explain falling crime rates in the 1980s, and I suspect that it alone can't 
account for falling numbers of crimes in the 1990s.  Beyond aging and 
concealed carry, we could look at prison sentences and likelihoods of 
incarceration.  During the 1980s in particularly candidates touting a get 
tough on crime agenda got elected all across the US, and federal and state 
governments passed all sorts of laws to increase punishments and the 
likelihood of their imposition.  I suspect that the get tough attitude and 
its impact on crime policies also contributed to the decline in crime in the 
US.

I know that economists sometimes model crime.  Does anyone here at GMU model 
crime, and is it something someone here can do as part of a dissertation?  

Sincerely,

David




Re: falling murder rates attributable to better trauma care?

2002-08-14 Thread john hull

A while back I heard an ex-military man and author
claim that first-person video games do lead to gun
violence.  He made the claim that better medical care
has has hidden the rise in gun violence by reducing
the mortality rate.  It does make intuitive sense, if
one looks at murder per se.  While I don't think I've
really answered your question, I just wanted to say
that it may be an 'old' idea in some fields.  Perhaps
economists could profit from it.

-jsh



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Re: falling murder rates attributable to better trauma care?

2002-08-14 Thread david sandin

when I looked at theassault rates at the bureau of justice statistics homepage http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/aslt.htm































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































they show aggravatedassaults being approximately the samefrom 1973 to 1994and a steady decline since then.Wasthere some dramaticchange during the 60sor early 70s that causedthe increase inaggravated assaultsclaimed by the articleor isit something wrong with the statistics?


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