Re: Women Don't Ask

2004-01-28 Thread AdmrlLocke
Um, who says the male libido decreases over the 20s and 30s? :-D

David Levenstam
In a message dated 1/28/04 3:05:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Following the analogy of price control, any evidence that the group
advocating
>
>aggressive relationship bargining are the same ones who would generally
>benefit
>
>by such a policy?  On a related note, do the strength of male/female
bargining
>
>positions in a long term relationship change as male libido decreases over
>their
>
>20's and 30's and female libido peaks around 35-38?  (Think "Battle of
>the
>
>Sexes" over several periods...)  Wild conjectures welcomed.
>
>
>
>-- John Morrow


Re: Women Don't Ask

2004-01-28 Thread john-morrow
Following the analogy of price control, any evidence that the group advocating
aggressive relationship bargining are the same ones who would generally benefit
by such a policy?  On a related note, do the strength of male/female bargining
positions in a long term relationship change as male libido decreases over their
20's and 30's and female libido peaks around 35-38?  (Think "Battle of the
Sexes" over several periods...)  Wild conjectures welcomed.

-- John Morrow

Quoting Bryan Caplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I just read the well-reviewed *Women Don't Ask* by Babcock and
> Laschever.  Main thesis: Women should bargain harder.
>
> It is frankly kind of silly.  The whole book makes it sound like
> aggressive bargaining is a strictly dominant strategy, so women will
> definitely be better off if they do more of it.  It never considers the
> obvious possibility that women will price themselves out of a job.  Nor
> does it explore the interesting possibility that one reason female
> employees are doing so well in spite of obvious child-related drawbacks
> is precisely that employers know that they are less likely to demand
> more money.
>
> The book also tries to get women to bargain more aggressively in
> relationships.  I think this is another case where feminist norms are
> likely to function as a price control - some women will get a better
> deal, but a lot of others will be unable to get married because their
> standards are too high.
> --
>  Prof. Bryan Caplan
> Department of Economics  George Mason University
>  http://www.bcaplan.com  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> "I hope this has taught you kids a lesson: kids never learn."
>
> --Chief Wiggum, *The Simpsons*
>


Re: Women Don't Ask

2004-01-28 Thread AdmrlLocke
It's funny that current feminist ideology holds traditional "male behavior"
in contempt and then insists that women engage in it.

David Levenstam
In a message dated 1/28/04 11:45:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>I just read the well-reviewed *Women Don't Ask* by Babcock and
>Laschever.  Main thesis: Women should bargain harder.
>
>It is frankly kind of silly.  The whole book makes it sound like
>aggressive bargaining is a strictly dominant strategy, so women will
>definitely be better off if they do more of it.  It never considers the
>obvious possibility that women will price themselves out of a job.  Nor
>does it explore the interesting possibility that one reason female
>employees are doing so well in spite of obvious child-related drawbacks
>is precisely that employers know that they are less likely to demand
>more money.
>
>The book also tries to get women to bargain more aggressively in
>relationships.  I think this is another case where feminist norms are
>likely to function as a price control - some women will get a better
>deal, but a lot of others will be unable to get married because their
>standards are too high.


Women Don't Ask

2004-01-28 Thread Bryan Caplan
I just read the well-reviewed *Women Don't Ask* by Babcock and
Laschever.  Main thesis: Women should bargain harder.
It is frankly kind of silly.  The whole book makes it sound like
aggressive bargaining is a strictly dominant strategy, so women will
definitely be better off if they do more of it.  It never considers the
obvious possibility that women will price themselves out of a job.  Nor
does it explore the interesting possibility that one reason female
employees are doing so well in spite of obvious child-related drawbacks
is precisely that employers know that they are less likely to demand
more money.
The book also tries to get women to bargain more aggressively in
relationships.  I think this is another case where feminist norms are
likely to function as a price control - some women will get a better
deal, but a lot of others will be unable to get married because their
standards are too high.
--
Prof. Bryan Caplan
   Department of Economics  George Mason University
http://www.bcaplan.com  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   "I hope this has taught you kids a lesson: kids never learn."

   --Chief Wiggum, *The Simpsons*