Re: [ARMedslack] Slackware ARM on Small NAS (NS-K330)

2011-04-22 Thread Stuart Winter

Davide -- can you please reply properly to the threads?
I'm not sure what your mail client is doing here, but it's not prefixing
the Subject line with Re: for a start, so it looks as if you're starting
a new thread each time.

Can you check the settings on your mail client, or perhaps choose a
different reply method please.

On Fri, 22 Apr 2011, Davide wrote:

 If you considet that you can get a dockstar for 50 Euro in Italy or possibbly 
 less it you look world wide ... this little wimpy nas had better cost no more 
 then 25 Euro or I'd just buy a dockstar instead. I know that it's infuriating 
 that the prices went up from 36 euro to 52 euro but for what you get it's 
 still a nice price  I mean is the sheeva plug not 99 Euro (or USD I 
 forget right now) ? whichever you can get a seagate GoFlexNET for 75 Euro.
 Wait I have it ... you want a gumstix and spend no less then 150 USD.
 Or is it that you want to play with an old sharp Zaurus (I've 3 of them do 
 you want one ?) or some other hand-held device and spend even more ?
 Or would you like a Toschiba with one of those dual core arm BASED CPU ? (the 
 best price I saw around for that was something like 225 Euro)

 Apart from all that is it really worth the effort fro such a wimpy piece of 
 hardware ?

 Regards
 David

 --- Gio 21/4/11, Giovanni pino.o...@gmail.com ha scritto:

 Da: Giovanni pino.o...@gmail.com
 Oggetto: [ARMedslack] Slackware ARM on Small NAS (NS-K330)
 A: Slackware ARM port armedslack@lists.armedslack.org
 Data: Giovedì 21 Aprile 2011, 13:24

 Do you know whether it is possible to install and run Slackware ARM on this 
 small computer?

 http://www.dealextreme.com/p/standalone-bittorrent-bt-client-usb-nas-ftp-samba-printer-upnp-sharing-network-lan-server-26320


 This is the hardware:

 CPU clock at 250MHz, CPU: FA526id(wb)(ARMv4)
 Memory: 32MB = 32MB total
 PCI clock at 33M


 and currently it supports SnakeOS:

 http://code.google.com/p/snake-os/

 Best regards,
 giovanni



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Re: [ARMedslack] Slackware ARM on Small NAS (NS-K330)

2011-04-22 Thread Thorsten Mühlfelder
Am Fri, 22 Apr 2011 09:32:33 +0100 (BST)
schrieb Davide louigi...@yahoo.it:

 
 I was told that reply made a mess by some other user.

What I've meant was: Don't use the reply button for new threads
and change the subject only because this generates a mess in the thread
view ;-)

 I'll fix it manually just tell me what fields I should leave and
 where. This is what my client would normaly do as a reply:
 Re: [ARMedslack] Slackware ARM on Small NAS (NS-K330)
 
 What's good in that and what's bad in that ?

That's fine.

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Re: [ARMedslack] Slackware ARM on Small NAS (NS-K330)

2011-04-22 Thread Stuart Winter

Yep that works -- but normally your mail client should do it for you. You
can probably configure it to prefix any reply with Re:.  It'll save wear
and tear on your fingers and keyboard! ;)

On Fri, 22 Apr 2011, Davide wrote:


 I was told that reply made a mess by some other user.

 I'll fix it manually just tell me what fields I should leave and where.
 This is what my client would normaly do as a reply:
 Re: [ARMedslack] Slackware ARM on Small NAS (NS-K330)

 What's good in that and what's bad in that ?

 Regards
 David
 --- Ven 22/4/11, Stuart Winter m-li...@biscuit.org.uk ha scritto:

  Da: Stuart Winter m-li...@biscuit.org.uk
  Oggetto: Re: [ARMedslack] Slackware ARM on Small NAS (NS-K330)
  A: Slackware ARM port armedslack@lists.armedslack.org
  Data: Venerdì 22 Aprile 2011, 10:14
 
  Davide -- can you please reply properly to the threads?
  I'm not sure what your mail client is doing here, but it's
  not prefixing
  the Subject line with Re: for a start, so it looks as if
  you're starting
  a new thread each time.
 
  Can you check the settings on your mail client, or perhaps
  choose a
  different reply method please.
 
  On Fri, 22 Apr 2011, Davide wrote:
 
   If you considet that you can get a dockstar for 50
  Euro in Italy or possibbly less it you look world wide ...
  this little wimpy nas had better cost no more then 25 Euro
  or I'd just buy a dockstar instead. I know that it's
  infuriating that the prices went up from 36 euro to 52 euro
  but for what you get it's still a nice price  I mean is
  the sheeva plug not 99 Euro (or USD I forget right now) ?
  whichever you can get a seagate GoFlexNET for 75 Euro.
   Wait I have it ... you want a gumstix and spend no
  less then 150 USD.
   Or is it that you want to play with an old sharp
  Zaurus (I've 3 of them do you want one ?) or some other
  hand-held device and spend even more ?
   Or would you like a Toschiba with one of those dual
  core arm BASED CPU ? (the best price I saw around for that
  was something like 225 Euro)
  
   Apart from all that is it really worth the effort fro
  such a wimpy piece of hardware ?
  
   Regards
   David
  
   --- Gio 21/4/11, Giovanni pino.o...@gmail.com
  ha scritto:
  
   Da: Giovanni pino.o...@gmail.com
   Oggetto: [ARMedslack] Slackware ARM on Small NAS
  (NS-K330)
   A: Slackware ARM port armedslack@lists.armedslack.org
   Data: Giovedì 21 Aprile 2011, 13:24
  
   Do you know whether it is possible to install and run
  Slackware ARM on this small computer?
  
   http://www.dealextreme.com/p/standalone-bittorrent-bt-client-usb-nas-ftp-samba-printer-upnp-sharing-network-lan-server-26320
  
  
   This is the hardware:
  
   CPU clock at 250MHz, CPU: FA526id(wb)(ARMv4)
   Memory: 32MB = 32MB total
   PCI clock at 33M
  
  
   and currently it supports SnakeOS:
  
   http://code.google.com/p/snake-os/
  
   Best regards,
   giovanni
  
  
  
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[ARMedslack] micro root rescue system

2011-04-22 Thread Davide
Sorry for starting a new thread on something that was started elsewhere  
but maybe the shoot-off needs better attention with a new thread.

 This is a mix of a few I built myself and some gotten from current.
 This is what I'll be working with and should fit in a compressed
 jffs2 image 64Mb big.
 root@slackware:/usr/src/surap_packages# du -ms * | sort -n
 1   busybox-1.18.4-arm-1.tgz
 1    dropbear-0.53.1-arm-1.tgz
 1   hostapd-0.7.3-arm-1.tgz
 1    iptables-1.4.10-arm-1.tgz
 1    iw-0.9.20-arm-1.tgz
 1    ppp-2.4.5-arm-1.tgz
 1    udev-165-arm-2.tgz
 1    usb_modeswitch-1.1.6-arm-1.tgz
 1    wireless-tools-29-arm-2.tgz
 2    httpd-2.2.17-arm-2.tgz
 2    kernel-firmware-2.6.38.3-noarch-1.tgz
 5    glibc-solibs-2.13-arm-1.tgz
 8    kernel_kirkwood-2.6.38.3-arm-1.tgz
 10   php-5.3.5-arm-1.tgz
 15   kernel-modules-kirkwood-2.6.38.3_kirkwood-arm-1.tgz
 root@slackware:/usr/src/surap_packages# du -ms .
 43      .
 root@slackware:/usr/src/surap_packages#

 Since booting from jffs2 image does not require initrd ... and maybe
 one can do without documentation  I'll see if I can fit that in a
 32Mb image.

 Build a custom kernel with few modules ;)

I will strip all unnecessary modules for a rescue system, remove initrd, strip 
documentation and carve down as much as possible ... if it won't fit I'll 
consider thttpd and some lighter web scripting language. Maybe web stuff is not 
really necessary for a rescue system anyway.

Now I've a question.
there are 2 ways to do this:
1) repackage the single packages and append some suffix to distinguish them 
from the standard packages, possibly modify the build scripts for them so that 
future maintenance will be easier,

2) just shove everything needed somewhere and remove all that is not needed and 
then build the jffs2 image.

Now if this micro root system is just going to be my personal 
AP/3g/NAS/router/rescue the second way will take much less effort, on the other 
hand if you like the idea of having an armedslack micro root system that will 
be more then just a rescue system and possibly fit in a 32Mb compressed image; 
well then we should go about the first way.
I say we because I'm just a user and even if I do most of the dirty work I'll 
need assistance from the ARMedslack team to do some of the required actions if 
this is of any interest to ARMedslack community. 

I've no reservation in sharing my work as I consider all my work GPL + it's 
mainly just administration so the question really is: Does armedslack want a 
smart micro root system ?

Best regards
David Rao

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[ARMedslack] kernel setup linux-2.6.38.3

2011-04-22 Thread Davide
While going about recompiling kernel for micro root I noticed a few things that 
one can do without at least for kirkwood:

Fusion MPT device support 
  (this is a hardware RAID SCSI controller ... I doubt anyone will ever 
have one connected to an ARM based embedde system even if a working 
pcie slot. 
  )

IEEE 1394 (FireWire) support 
  (The kirkwood SOC does not have firewire in it so unless you have a 
usb2firewire adapter, which would not make much sense anyway, 
or a pci* slot where to place one in you wont need this.
Those who have a kirkwood based system with working pcie slot and
a pcie firewire card can recompile kernel ;-)
  ) 

Regards
David

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