Re: [ARMedslack] QEMU support - does anybody care about it?

2012-08-31 Thread Thorsten Mühlfelder
I've never used QEMU and I think nowadays ARM hardware is really cheap
to get. So even for a first try beginners may rather buy an ARM board
than using QEMU.


2012/8/31 Stuart Winter mo...@slackware.com:

 Hi

 I am thinking about removing the QEMU packages from -current.
 I only added these years ago because my real ARM hardware died and I
 needed a stop gap.

 The thing is that QEMU is *so slow* that I cannot imagine it being useful
 at all, apart from a 10 minute novelty for x86 users.
 It takes time to test whether the installation works, and takes time to
 build the Versatile kernel.

 Is anybody going to miss it if I drop the packages and install docs?

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Re: [ARMedslack] QEMU support - does anybody care about it?

2012-08-31 Thread Robby Workman
On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 07:09:33 -0700 (PDT)
Stuart Winter mo...@slackware.com wrote:

 
 Hi
 
 I am thinking about removing the QEMU packages from -current.
 I only added these years ago because my real ARM hardware died and I
 needed a stop gap.
 
 The thing is that QEMU is *so slow* that I cannot imagine it being
 useful at all, apart from a 10 minute novelty for x86 users.
 It takes time to test whether the installation works, and takes time
 to build the Versatile kernel.
 
 Is anybody going to miss it if I drop the packages and install docs?


Well...  I would, since I often build packages in a qemu VM (I'm 
usually in no hurry, so time isn't a problem).  However, I can 
adjust :-)

-RW
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Re: [ARMedslack] QEMU support - does anybody care about it?

2012-08-31 Thread Davide
I still find qemu useful when I want to test something out amd that qould be 
emulating ARM from x86 hardware.
I know arm hardware is cheap nowadays ... but qemu is cheaper and no need to 
wait for shipping ;)





 Da: Stuart Winter mo...@slackware.com
A: Slackware ARM mailing list armedslack@lists.armedslack.org 
Inviato: Venerdì 31 Agosto 2012 16:09
Oggetto: [ARMedslack] QEMU support - does anybody care about it?
 

Hi

I am thinking about removing the QEMU packages from -current.
I only added these years ago because my real ARM hardware died and I
needed a stop gap.

The thing is that QEMU is *so slow* that I cannot imagine it being useful
at all, apart from a 10 minute novelty for x86 users.
It takes time to test whether the installation works, and takes time to
build the Versatile kernel.

Is anybody going to miss it if I drop the packages and install docs?

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www.slackware.com/~mozes
Slackware for ARM: www.armedslack.org
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Re: [ARMedslack] QEMU support - does anybody care about it?

2012-08-31 Thread Ottavio Caruso
On 31 August 2012 15:09, Stuart Winter mo...@slackware.com wrote:

 I am thinking about removing the QEMU packages from -current.
 I only added these years ago because my real ARM hardware died and I
 needed a stop gap.

I don't understand what you mean by qemu packages. Do you mean the
/slackwarearm/slackwarearm-devtools/qemu/ ?

I have actually never used those to install inside qemu. I only used
the mini-root and the volatile kernel.
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Re: [ARMedslack] QEMU support - does anybody care about it?

2012-08-31 Thread Stuart Winter

 I don't understand what you mean by qemu packages. Do you mean the
 /slackwarearm/slackwarearm-devtools/qemu/ ?

The 'versatile' kernel packages.


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Re: [ARMedslack] QEMU support - does anybody care about it?

2012-08-31 Thread Ottavio Caruso
On 31 August 2012 16:22, Stuart Winter m-li...@biscuit.org.uk wrote:

 I don't understand what you mean by qemu packages. Do you mean the
 /slackwarearm/slackwarearm-devtools/qemu/ ?

 The 'versatile' kernel packages.

Then in this case, yes, I'd still like to play with them if possible.
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Re: [ARMedslack] QEMU support - does anybody care about it?

2012-08-31 Thread Stuart Winter

 and you can add gobs of RAM SWAP support in qeum that isnt available to the
 real hardware.

The machine type I provide packages for is the VersatilePB which only
supports 256MB RAM, and you certainly would not want it paging.

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Re: [ARMedslack] QEMU support - does anybody care about it?

2012-08-31 Thread Niels Horn
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Robby Workman ro...@rlworkman.net wrote:
 On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 07:09:33 -0700 (PDT)
 Stuart Winter mo...@slackware.com wrote:


 Hi

 I am thinking about removing the QEMU packages from -current.
 I only added these years ago because my real ARM hardware died and I
 needed a stop gap.

 The thing is that QEMU is *so slow* that I cannot imagine it being
 useful at all, apart from a 10 minute novelty for x86 users.
 It takes time to test whether the installation works, and takes time
 to build the Versatile kernel.

 Is anybody going to miss it if I drop the packages and install docs?


 Well...  I would, since I often build packages in a qemu VM (I'm
 usually in no hurry, so time isn't a problem).  However, I can
 adjust :-)

 -RW

Yeah, I'd miss it too... I still use qemu with its snapshot feature to
build packages on a clean installation.
My real ARM hardware has too many packages installed to consider it a
clean installation.

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