Re: [ARMedslack] Seagate Dockstar device questions
On 07/10/2012 11:46 PM, Gregg Levine wrote: On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Rich wrote: On 07/10/2012 03:50 PM, Stuart Winter wrote: Is this device completely supported by the ARM Slackware port? I guess Stuart would say: "it's not a case of "porting" - it's just adding support". Not to answer *that* question I wouldn't. The dockstar is supported in the way that a kernel is supplied that runs on that device. Much to my disgust, someone on this list used one of those pointless devices ;-) See- http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=dockstar&l=armedslack%40lists.armedslack.org Well you would be really disgusted with me. I've got three Dockstars all running ARMedSlack 13.37. And to make it worst, I've got two Pogoplugs E02 running current. On all of these devices I loaded Jeff Doozan uboot, so no real problem with hacking the boot loader. Rich Lapointe ___ ARMedslack mailing list ARMedslack@lists.armedslack.org http://lists.armedslack.org/mailman/listinfo/armedslack Hello! Rich is this the article that you followed?http://projects.doozan.com/debian/ Yes, but I don't use the Debian install. I use the uboot installation instructions that are linked to in the first line of your reference link. Here the direct link. http://projects.doozan.com/uboot/. The uboot that this installs was recently updated to work with kernels 3.1 and greater. I also installed Jeff's Rescue System, http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?4,7915. I find it easier to use for installing ARMedSlack than stock firmware. Granted he is talking about that cluster of Penguins in back of our group and slightly to the left of he router community. But for my efforts that one makes sense. I'm leaning towards putting a Slackware-13.37 system on it, but, ah, what space requirements should I take into consideration? I use USB hard drives (anywhere between 80G to 600G) with all my Dockstars and Pogoplugs, so i don't have to worry about space requirements. I recall installing on a 4 G flash drive without problems. My general partition scheme is as follows: sda1/ ext3 ( can be anywhere between 2 to 20 G) sda2swap(i still follow the old rule of thumb of 2x ram) sda3 /home ext4 (size depends on what i planning to do with it) sda4- logical disk to take up the reaming disk space if any In order not to have to screw with the uboot variables, the root file systems needs to be on sda1. Although most instruction indicate the the root files system need to be ext2, ext3 works fine. To install ARMedSlack I just untar the mini root file system in sda1, edit fstab to work with the partitioning scheme and add the following sym links to /boot ln -s uinitrd-kirkwood uInitrd ln -s uImage-kirkwood uImage As Stuart said your going to need to to install ntp and make the appropriate changes in ntp.conf. The network is setup to run dhcp, but I suggest that you set up a static ip so that you will not have to hunt for the ip address to ssh in after the first boot. Rich Lapointe - Gregg C levinegregg.drw...@gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." ___ ARMedslack mailing list ARMedslack@lists.armedslack.org http://lists.armedslack.org/mailman/listinfo/armedslack
Re: [ARMedslack] Seagate Dockstar device questions
I had a slimmed version of the mini root working on the dockstar (that initially ran on an external usb flashdisk untill I slimmed it enough to fit in the docstar) ... but I subsequently spent a lot of time on an old project I had back 2004 (Clash). Currently my dosckstar runs on that but if you need new kernel feautres the project has been dormant since I changed job, so you might like to look for a kernel elsewhere. Anyway, being a slackware enthusiast, I did my best to leave a slackware feeling to ClashNG while keeping things in a fairly small footprint. All the work I did is on sourceforge (bclash.sourceforge.net) Regards David Da: David Madden A: Slackware ARM port Inviato: Mercoledì 11 Luglio 2012 5:00 Oggetto: Re: [ARMedslack] Seagate Dockstar device questions On 7/10/2012 20:46, Gregg Levine wrote: > what space requirements should > I take into consideration? I spent a fair amount of time trying to put together a tiny system that would fit into the Flash on a Dockstar, but ended up with a more conventional installation (system on USB disk). More recently, I built a GuruPlug system to take over the Dockstar's duties, and was able to fit Linux-3.4.4, Apache, PHP, MySQL, PostgreSQL, and a fair amount of other stuff into the 507MB flash, with ... let's see ... almost 100MB left. (This is using a UBI compressed filesystem.) For the GuruPlug install, I started with Arch Linux, rather than Slackware. I'm not up on the politics of the various distros, but it seemed like Arch made it easier to pick & choose individual packages. I plan to rebuild the Dockstar after the GuruPlug has a few weeks to get the bugs shaken out, and I'll probably try to fit an Arch Linux installation into the 128MB flash. I doubt I can fit a complete LAMP setup, but I really only need NFS, CUPS and maybe a basic web server. You should make sure you can access the TTL-level serial port on the Dockstar before you get too fancy with it! -- Mersenne Law LLC · www.mersenne.com · +1-503-679-1671 - Small Business, Startup and Intellectual Property Law - 1500 SW First Ave. · Suite 1170 · Portland, Oregon 97201 ___ ARMedslack mailing list ARMedslack@lists.armedslack.org http://lists.armedslack.org/mailman/listinfo/armedslack___ ARMedslack mailing list ARMedslack@lists.armedslack.org http://lists.armedslack.org/mailman/listinfo/armedslack
Re: [ARMedslack] Seagate Dockstar device questions
On 7/10/2012 20:46, Gregg Levine wrote: > what space requirements should > I take into consideration? I spent a fair amount of time trying to put together a tiny system that would fit into the Flash on a Dockstar, but ended up with a more conventional installation (system on USB disk). More recently, I built a GuruPlug system to take over the Dockstar's duties, and was able to fit Linux-3.4.4, Apache, PHP, MySQL, PostgreSQL, and a fair amount of other stuff into the 507MB flash, with ... let's see ... almost 100MB left. (This is using a UBI compressed filesystem.) For the GuruPlug install, I started with Arch Linux, rather than Slackware. I'm not up on the politics of the various distros, but it seemed like Arch made it easier to pick & choose individual packages. I plan to rebuild the Dockstar after the GuruPlug has a few weeks to get the bugs shaken out, and I'll probably try to fit an Arch Linux installation into the 128MB flash. I doubt I can fit a complete LAMP setup, but I really only need NFS, CUPS and maybe a basic web server. You should make sure you can access the TTL-level serial port on the Dockstar before you get too fancy with it! -- Mersenne Law LLC · www.mersenne.com · +1-503-679-1671 - Small Business, Startup and Intellectual Property Law - 1500 SW First Ave. · Suite 1170 · Portland, Oregon 97201 ___ ARMedslack mailing list ARMedslack@lists.armedslack.org http://lists.armedslack.org/mailman/listinfo/armedslack
Re: [ARMedslack] Seagate Dockstar device questions
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Rich wrote: > On 07/10/2012 03:50 PM, Stuart Winter wrote: Is this device completely supported by the ARM Slackware port? >>> >>> I guess Stuart would say: "it's not a case of "porting" - it's just >>> adding support". >> >> Not to answer *that* question I wouldn't. >> >> The dockstar is supported in the way that a kernel is supplied that runs >> on that device. >> >> Much to my disgust, someone on this list used one of those pointless >> devices ;-) >> See- >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=dockstar&l=armedslack%40lists.armedslack.org > > > Well you would be really discussed with me. I've got three Dockstars all > running ARMedSlack 13.37. And to make it worst, I've got two Pogoplugs E02 > running current. On all of these devices I loaded Jeff Doozan uboot, so no > real problem with hacking the boot loader. > > Rich Lapointe > > > ___ > ARMedslack mailing list > ARMedslack@lists.armedslack.org > http://lists.armedslack.org/mailman/listinfo/armedslack Hello! Rich is this the article that you followed? http://projects.doozan.com/debian/ Granted he is talking about that cluster of Penguins in back of our group and slightly to the left of the router community. But for my efforts that one makes sense. I'm leaning towards putting a Slackware-13.37 system on it, but, ah, what space requirements should I take into consideration? - Gregg C Levine gregg.drw...@gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." ___ ARMedslack mailing list ARMedslack@lists.armedslack.org http://lists.armedslack.org/mailman/listinfo/armedslack
Re: [ARMedslack] Seagate Dockstar device questions
On 07/10/2012 03:50 PM, Stuart Winter wrote: Is this device completely supported by the ARM Slackware port? I guess Stuart would say: "it's not a case of "porting" - it's just adding support". Not to answer *that* question I wouldn't. The dockstar is supported in the way that a kernel is supplied that runs on that device. Much to my disgust, someone on this list used one of those pointless devices ;-) See- http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=dockstar&l=armedslack%40lists.armedslack.org Well you would be really discussed with me. I've got three Dockstars all running ARMedSlack 13.37. And to make it worst, I've got two Pogoplugs E02 running current. On all of these devices I loaded Jeff Doozan uboot, so no real problem with hacking the boot loader. Rich Lapointe ___ ARMedslack mailing list ARMedslack@lists.armedslack.org http://lists.armedslack.org/mailman/listinfo/armedslack
Re: [ARMedslack] Seagate Dockstar device questions
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 4:16 PM, David Madden wrote: > On 7/10/2012 13:09, Stuart Winter wrote: >> so anything that is of low spec doesn't interest me at all - >> especially when there are better machines out there. > > The Dockstar is such a cute form factor, though. Especially when you > put one of the 2.5" drives in it. But you're right, only 128MB is > painful. (Although I did have one running MySQL, Postgresql, Lighttpd, > PHP, Gallery, Wordpress, git and Davical! But I recently moved all that > stuff over to a GuruPlug because the image processing for Gallery was > just painfully slow.) > > -- > Mersenne Law LLC · www.mersenne.com · +1-503-679-1671 > - Small Business, Startup and Intellectual Property Law - > 1500 SW First Ave. · Suite 1170 · Portland, Oregon 97201 > > > ___ > ARMedslack mailing list > ARMedslack@lists.armedslack.org > http://lists.armedslack.org/mailman/listinfo/armedslack Hello! I agree folks. Really. I've already got a black Pogoplug here doing all of that with two drives attached. I originally wanted to track down of them (the Seagate Dockstar) about a year or so earlier, when there was talk of stuffing one of the others on it, OpenWRT in fact. That also included the serial port on the device which has its pins the front. Someone else had gotten the thing to talk to a screen via one those VGA to USB translation devices as well. But for me that platform is perfect for exploring the world of running Linux on non-Intel platforms. Oh and thank you Stuart for creating this port. - Gregg C Levine gregg.drw...@gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." ___ ARMedslack mailing list ARMedslack@lists.armedslack.org http://lists.armedslack.org/mailman/listinfo/armedslack
Re: [ARMedslack] Seagate Dockstar device questions
On 7/10/2012 13:09, Stuart Winter wrote: > so anything that is of low spec doesn't interest me at all - > especially when there are better machines out there. The Dockstar is such a cute form factor, though. Especially when you put one of the 2.5" drives in it. But you're right, only 128MB is painful. (Although I did have one running MySQL, Postgresql, Lighttpd, PHP, Gallery, Wordpress, git and Davical! But I recently moved all that stuff over to a GuruPlug because the image processing for Gallery was just painfully slow.) -- Mersenne Law LLC · www.mersenne.com · +1-503-679-1671 - Small Business, Startup and Intellectual Property Law - 1500 SW First Ave. · Suite 1170 · Portland, Oregon 97201 ___ ARMedslack mailing list ARMedslack@lists.armedslack.org http://lists.armedslack.org/mailman/listinfo/armedslack
Re: [ARMedslack] Seagate Dockstar device questions
> Hello! > Okay, what about them bothers you? I always think about using the machines as either 'desktops' or build machines, so anything that is of low spec doesn't interest me at all - especially when there are better machines out there. The dockstar has no RTC and only 128MB RAM. IMO if you were going to spend any money on a Kirkwood machine, buy a SheevaPlug. More costly but it's *supposed* to be developed on so it's completely open (rather than sold as an appliance for a particular application and having to be hacked) and has 512MB RAM. -- Stuart Winter Slackware ARM: www.armedslack.org ___ ARMedslack mailing list ARMedslack@lists.armedslack.org http://lists.armedslack.org/mailman/listinfo/armedslack
Re: [ARMedslack] Seagate Dockstar device questions
No hardware clock, have to use ntp to sync the time. This is a problem if it is not connected to the "internet" On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Gregg Levine wrote: > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Stuart Winter > wrote: > > > >> > Is this device completely supported by the ARM Slackware port? > >> > >> I guess Stuart would say: "it's not a case of "porting" - it's just > >> adding support". > > > > Not to answer *that* question I wouldn't. > > > > The dockstar is supported in the way that a kernel is supplied that runs > > on that device. > > > > Much to my disgust, someone on this list used one of those pointless > > devices ;-) > > See- > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=dockstar&l=armedslack%40lists.armedslack.org > > > > Hello! > Okay, what about them bothers you? > > - > Gregg C Levine gregg.drw...@gmail.com > "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." > ___ > ARMedslack mailing list > ARMedslack@lists.armedslack.org > http://lists.armedslack.org/mailman/listinfo/armedslack > ___ ARMedslack mailing list ARMedslack@lists.armedslack.org http://lists.armedslack.org/mailman/listinfo/armedslack
Re: [ARMedslack] Seagate Dockstar device questions
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Stuart Winter wrote: > >> > Is this device completely supported by the ARM Slackware port? >> >> I guess Stuart would say: "it's not a case of "porting" - it's just >> adding support". > > Not to answer *that* question I wouldn't. > > The dockstar is supported in the way that a kernel is supplied that runs > on that device. > > Much to my disgust, someone on this list used one of those pointless > devices ;-) > See- > http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=dockstar&l=armedslack%40lists.armedslack.org > Hello! Okay, what about them bothers you? - Gregg C Levine gregg.drw...@gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." ___ ARMedslack mailing list ARMedslack@lists.armedslack.org http://lists.armedslack.org/mailman/listinfo/armedslack
Re: [ARMedslack] Seagate Dockstar device questions
The Dockstar has an identical processor ("Kirkwood") to the
SheevaPlug, which is supported.
It takes some extra effort to "hack" the bootloader on the Dockstar,
but once I had that sorted, running Slackware on my Dockstar was no
problem.
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Gregg Levine wrote:
> Hello!
> Before I start doing something with this device and probably ruin it I
> have a question.
>
> Is this device completely supported by the ARM Slackware port?
>
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Re: [ARMedslack] Seagate Dockstar device questions
> > Is this device completely supported by the ARM Slackware port? > > I guess Stuart would say: "it's not a case of "porting" - it's just > adding support". Not to answer *that* question I wouldn't. The dockstar is supported in the way that a kernel is supplied that runs on that device. Much to my disgust, someone on this list used one of those pointless devices ;-) See- http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=dockstar&l=armedslack%40lists.armedslack.org -- Stuart Winter Slackware ARM: www.armedslack.org ___ ARMedslack mailing list ARMedslack@lists.armedslack.org http://lists.armedslack.org/mailman/listinfo/armedslack
Re: [ARMedslack] Seagate Dockstar device questions
On 10 July 2012 19:58, Gregg Levine wrote: > Is this device completely supported by the ARM Slackware port? I guess Stuart would say: "it's not a case of "porting" - it's just adding support". -- Ottavio ___ ARMedslack mailing list ARMedslack@lists.armedslack.org http://lists.armedslack.org/mailman/listinfo/armedslack
Re: [ARMedslack] Seagate Dockstar device questions
In my experience, yes. You may have to update the uboot in it so it will boot off USB device. That is what I had to do to get my dockstar running On Jul 10, 2012 1:58 PM, "Gregg Levine" wrote: > Hello! > Before I start doing something with this device and probably ruin it I > have a question. > > Is this device completely supported by the ARM Slackware port? > > - > Gregg C Levine gregg.drw...@gmail.com > "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." > ___ > ARMedslack mailing list > ARMedslack@lists.armedslack.org > http://lists.armedslack.org/mailman/listinfo/armedslack > ___ ARMedslack mailing list ARMedslack@lists.armedslack.org http://lists.armedslack.org/mailman/listinfo/armedslack
