Re: [ARMedslack] Trying armedslack-current

2010-10-08 Thread Stuart Winter

 out LUN access and now it shows up properly and now I can boot off the
 onboard micro SD card as there are really 2 devices there with only one
 physically present.

 http://plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php?topic=1642.30

Is it worth taking this u-boot and putting it on ftp.armedslack.org then?
I have a guruplug u-boot that I took from a Debian developer's page.

If we take this one, do the Slackware ARM Kirkwood installation
instructions still apply?

 for my second X display for World of Warcraft. :0 is my Slack KDE desktop. I
 only have a single core CPU on my desktop.

That's a good idea.  I hadn't thought of that before.  I usually run
X11 VNC on the ARM boxes and VNC in to test x11 stuff.
Although I plan on using the openrd as a desktop machine soon, since it
has video and audio working (we just need some x.org updates first, to get
a decent screen resolution).

 I cannot run either of the dual gigabit ports on the GuruPlug because of
 the known overheating/rebooting issues.  (BAD BAD MARVELL!) I have to

I know Jim on this list has received his guruplug a week ago, and they've
added a whopping fan to it which makes itself known in the room.
Perhaps you shoud send yours back for a swap.

 FATAL: Module uap8xxx not found.
 r...@guruslack:/mnt/memory/usr/src/linux# uname -a
 Linux guruslack 2.6.35-kirkwood #2 PREEMPT Wed Aug 4 17:01:31 BST 2010
 armv5tel Feroceon 88FR131 rev 1 (v5l) Marvell GuruPlug Reference Board
 GNU/Linux

 yet in 13.1 it is working fine.

There were a number of patches to the 13.1 kernel:
armedslack-13.1/source/k/sources/patches/esata_sheevaplug_and_guruplug-patchset
but as far as I knew, all of the guru plug stuff was merged into
the upstream kernel:

At present, I don't apply *any* patches to the -current kernel
(which is waiting to be pushed out after Slackware x86 has been)

The module does not exist in the source tree.
r...@wizbit:/usr/src/linux-2.6.36rc7# find . -iname '*uap8xxx*'
r...@wizbit:/usr/src/linux-2.6.36rc7#

I checked the Debian linux-base package which is at 2.6.36rc6 and
there are no guruplug patches in it.

I remember talking with a Guru owner who needed some firmware for the
onboard bluetooth stuff, but I don't recall anything mentioned about the
network drivers.  If there are any patches, I can add them into the next
kernel build; if someone tells me where they are.

-- 
Stuart Winter
Slackware ARM: www.armedslack.org
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Re: [ARMedslack] Trying armedslack-current

2010-10-08 Thread John O'Donnell

On 10/08/2010 03:19 AM, Stuart Winter wrote:



out LUN access and now it shows up properly and now I can boot off the
onboard micro SD card as there are really 2 devices there with only one
physically present.

http://plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php?topic=1642.30


Is it worth taking this u-boot and putting it on ftp.armedslack.org then?
I have a guruplug u-boot that I took from a Debian developer's page.

If we take this one, do the Slackware ARM Kirkwood installation
instructions still apply?


Same instructions apply as a USB drive.

It is a VERY clean patch, probably worth adding.  I changed the version name and 
the prompt from Marvell to GuruPlug.  I changed nothing else.



for my second X display for World of Warcraft. :0 is my Slack KDE desktop. I
only have a single core CPU on my desktop.


That's a good idea.  I hadn't thought of that before.  I usually run
X11 VNC on the ARM boxes and VNC in to test x11 stuff.
Although I plan on using the openrd as a desktop machine soon, since it
has video and audio working (we just need some x.org updates first, to get
a decent screen resolution).


Doesn't KDE have a sound server?  I am planning on trying it out from the guru 
to my desktop after I get all this smoothed out with the -current tree.


I Just got it all back up and running on -current but with the 13.1 version 
kernel install (kernel / modules / source) totally booting off the micro SD 
card.  It is bittorrenting as I type again and running very smoothly.  It is 
quite nice.  Seems a bit more sluggish but then I was doing alot of package 
changes while trying to shuffle bittorrents.  I made sure to buy a fast rated 
micro SD card.


I have always run multiple X servers for many reasons.  While working for the 
Dept of Defense, I had my windoze laptop (assigned to me - UGH!) that I could 
not change. But they gave us VMware!!! So alas it ran nothing but VMware . . . 
with Slackware in full screen all day long with an X console for my HP/ux PA 
Risc developement system, one for the Sun Sparc box, etc. etc. etc...


I just use the GuruPlug in the same fashion.


I cannot run either of the dual gigabit ports on the GuruPlug because of
the known overheating/rebooting issues.  (BAD BAD MARVELL!) I have to


I know Jim on this list has received his guruplug a week ago, and they've
added a whopping fan to it which makes itself known in the room.
Perhaps you shoud send yours back for a swap.


Oh I have been following the forums and been in contact with Global Scale and 
know all about that little 20mm x 20mm x 6mm fan they added that is apparently 
quite noisy.  I guess I should have said BAD BAD GLOBAL SCALE!



There were a number of patches to the 13.1 kernel:
armedslack-13.1/source/k/sources/patches/esata_sheevaplug_and_guruplug-patchset
but as far as I knew, all of the guru plug stuff was merged into
the upstream kernel:

At present, I don't apply *any* patches to the -current kernel
(which is waiting to be pushed out after Slackware x86 has been)

The module does not exist in the source tree.
r...@wizbit:/usr/src/linux-2.6.36rc7# find . -iname '*uap8xxx*'
r...@wizbit:/usr/src/linux-2.6.36rc7#

I checked the Debian linux-base package which is at 2.6.36rc6 and
there are no guruplug patches in it.

I remember talking with a Guru owner who needed some firmware for the
onboard bluetooth stuff, but I don't recall anything mentioned about the
network drivers.  If there are any patches, I can add them into the next
kernel build; if someone tells me where they are.



It is mentioned several times in the forums that for the GuruPlug you need to 
copy the binary /usr/bin/uaputl from a shipped guruplug.  I had to do the same 
as well with the /lib/firmware/mrvl files.


I added them to http://juanisan.homeip.net/guruplug

as well as my /etc/rc.d/rc.uap and /etc/rc.d/rc.dhcpd
The GuruPlug is weird in that you have to start UAP and restart again once to 
get it fully functioning upon booting.  The debian install does the same thing. 
 But once done like that on boot it functions flawlessly.


From what I follow, there apparently are NO sources available to this uaputl 
program and I am VERY dubious of this.  I have also read that there are NO 
access controls and that you DONT have to be root to change the SSID or any 
other access point configurations with this utility and the way it talks to the 
kernel driver.  I dont like it but it is what I have to use.


Just be aware of all this and decide what you want to include.

While typing this, Ktorrent Sig 11'ed.  I have had issues with Ktorrent 
crashing, but usually not when left alone.  In 13.1 sometimes it would work 
flawlessly.  Open a torrent, start downloading, open another, etc.. And work to 
completion.  Sometimes I would boot the plug and open a torrent, crash with sig 
11, restart, it recovers and starts downloading, open another, crash sig 11, 
restart, downloads to completion.  it only crashed on an open.  few days later 
reboot the plug 

Re: [ARMedslack] Trying armedslack-current

2010-10-08 Thread Jim Hawkins
On Fri, 8 Oct 2010, John O'Donnell wrote:

 On 10/08/2010 03:19 AM, Stuart Winter wrote:
  I know Jim on this list has received his guruplug a week ago, and they've
  added a whopping fan to it which makes itself known in the room.
  Perhaps you shoud send yours back for a swap.
 
 Oh I have been following the forums and been in contact with Global Scale and
 know all about that little 20mm x 20mm x 6mm fan they added that is apparently
 quite noisy.  I guess I should have said BAD BAD GLOBAL SCALE!

It sounds like a hair dryer.

 From what I follow, there apparently are NO sources available to this uaputl
 program and I am VERY dubious of this.  I have also read that there are NO
 access controls and that you DONT have to be root to change the SSID or any
 other access point configurations with this utility and the way it talks to
 the kernel driver.  I dont like it but it is what I have to use.

I've not looked at it, but source is available from the bottom of this 
page:

http://www.plugcomputer.org/plugwiki/index.php/Setting_GuruPlug_to_be_a_WiFi_Access_Point

Cheers,

Jim
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Re: [ARMedslack] Trying armedslack-current

2010-10-08 Thread John O'Donnell

On 10/08/2010 04:40 AM, Jim Hawkins wrote:

On Fri, 8 Oct 2010, John O'Donnell wrote:


On 10/08/2010 03:19 AM, Stuart Winter wrote:

I know Jim on this list has received his guruplug a week ago, and they've
added a whopping fan to it which makes itself known in the room.
Perhaps you shoud send yours back for a swap.


Oh I have been following the forums and been in contact with Global Scale and
know all about that little 20mm x 20mm x 6mm fan they added that is apparently
quite noisy.  I guess I should have said BAD BAD GLOBAL SCALE!


It sounds like a hair dryer.


YUCK!  Yeah I was googling alot last night about a replacement fan that might be 
quieter but not alot in that extremely small form factor.  Still looking.  And 
waiting for Global Scale to let me know when and how to get my plug fixed.  They 
just keep telling me they will contact me.



 From what I follow, there apparently are NO sources available to this uaputl
program and I am VERY dubious of this.  I have also read that there are NO
access controls and that you DONT have to be root to change the SSID or any
other access point configurations with this utility and the way it talks to
the kernel driver.  I dont like it but it is what I have to use.


I've not looked at it, but source is available from the bottom of this
page:

http://www.plugcomputer.org/plugwiki/index.php/Setting_GuruPlug_to_be_a_WiFi_Access_Point

Cheers,

Jim


This is what I have been looking for for a LONG TIME
Thank you  Now I want to look at it and see what kind of security it has, 
etc.. and compile my own and make sure this works!


THANKS!
Johnny O

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Re: [ARMedslack] Trying armedslack-current

2010-10-08 Thread Claudio Cavalera
Hi guys,
I admit I haven't read the whole discussion, but wouldn't it better to
sponsor Seagate Dockstar a little bit more inside slackware for arm?
What are the advantages of GuruPlug vs Dockstar?


Ciao,
Claudio

PS: googling dockstar site:armedslack.org - no results
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Re: [ARMedslack] Trying armedslack-current

2010-10-08 Thread Stuart Winter

Hi Claudio

 I admit I haven't read the whole discussion, but wouldn't it better to
 sponsor Seagate Dockstar a little bit more inside slackware for arm?
 What are the advantages of GuruPlug vs Dockstar?



http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79954

Dockstar is essentially a Sheevaplug with 128MB RAM, no real-time clock,
and an added 4-port usb hub (comparison)

My personal opinion is that you might as well buy a SheevaPlug.
I really see no point in buying a device with such a limited amount of
RAM, has no real time clock *and* requires dismantling in order to work
with it.
It's cheap, but limited.

As far as I know, from reading this list, is that Slackware ARM works on
the dockstar already.  If someone wants to write some documentation that
I can put on the web site, then I'll happily put it there; but for the
very limited time I have to spend on Slackware, I'd rather spend it on
more beefy devices.

When developing Slackware ARM, this is how I determine where to spend my
time:
The thing with ARM devices is that they're geared for a specific
job, and it doesn't mean they're worth while putting a full OS such as
Slackware on it.  If you have a device such as the Sheeva or OpenRD, then
they're suplied in order to be a general purpose device -so they have more
onboard hardware, graphics, video, more RAM, eSATA and so on.

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