Re: Java for ARS Install?
In 7.5 webservice plugin is java based. - J 2013/10/8 LJ LongWing > ** > Well...I don't recall exactly when the Java plugin server started being > used for some plugins instead of C by defaultI'm pretty sure that the > web services plugin turned Java in 7.6.04I know the LDAP one is Java in > 8.1even with no ITSM you have ootb ones that are in usefor most of > the Java plugins there are C alternatives still available...so 'need' is a > relative termbut for standard config, yes it's needed as early as > 7.6.04, maybe earlier. > > > On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Raj wrote: > >> ** >> Thanks Lj. >> Would the need change if I am performing an ARS upgrade from >> 5.1.2.(5.1.2>6.3>7.1>7.6.04>8.1)? No ITSM. >> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ >> > > _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: Java for ARS Install?
Thanks Jason and Lj. Appreciate much! ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: Java for ARS Install?
Or forgot even. On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Jason Miller wrote: > Ooops. I meant to mention that but just for got. Thanks! > > > On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 12:13 PM, LJ LongWing wrote: > >> ** >> Jason, >> While the core Remedy doesn't require it, plugins installed during the >> Remedy install DO require it. >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Jason Miller wrote: >> >>> ** >>> The core ARS does not need Java (yet). The Email Engine does and so >>> does Mid Tier (actually the JSP engine does). The reliance on Java is >>> constantly increasing and in some cases where it is not needed today it >>> will be needed in the future. You might as well plan on installing Java on >>> everything except you DB server (at least for MS SQL Server). >>> >>> Jason >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Raj wrote: >>> ** Per compatibility matrix, the following Java versions are listed as compatible but my question was more inclined to the need of Java, is Java needed for ARS, EE or MT ? Where can I find this information in BMC docs to support this...? 1. Java 2 Platform, Standard Edition version 5 Update 12 for ARS 7.6.04 Java Platform, Standard Edition version 6 Update 17 for ARS 8.1 As we are planning on installing ARS, EE and MT on separate servers so trying to understand the need for Java. _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ >>> >>> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ >>> >> >> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ >> > > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: Java for ARS Install?
Ooops. I meant to mention that but just for got. Thanks! On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 12:13 PM, LJ LongWing wrote: > ** > Jason, > While the core Remedy doesn't require it, plugins installed during the > Remedy install DO require it. > > > On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Jason Miller wrote: > >> ** >> The core ARS does not need Java (yet). The Email Engine does and so >> does Mid Tier (actually the JSP engine does). The reliance on Java is >> constantly increasing and in some cases where it is not needed today it >> will be needed in the future. You might as well plan on installing Java on >> everything except you DB server (at least for MS SQL Server). >> >> Jason >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Raj wrote: >> >>> ** >>> Per compatibility matrix, the following Java versions are listed as >>> compatible but my question was more inclined to the need of Java, is Java >>> needed for ARS, EE or MT ? >>> Where can I find this information in BMC docs to support this...? >>> >>> 1. Java 2 Platform, Standard Edition version 5 Update 12 for ARS >>> 7.6.04 >>> Java Platform, Standard Edition version 6 Update 17 for ARS 8.1 >>> As we are planning on installing ARS, EE and MT on separate servers so >>> trying to understand the need for Java. >>> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ >>> >> >> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ >> > > _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: Java for ARS Install?
Jason, While the core Remedy doesn't require it, plugins installed during the Remedy install DO require it. On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Jason Miller wrote: > ** > The core ARS does not need Java (yet). The Email Engine does and so does > Mid Tier (actually the JSP engine does). The reliance on Java is > constantly increasing and in some cases where it is not needed today it > will be needed in the future. You might as well plan on installing Java on > everything except you DB server (at least for MS SQL Server). > > Jason > > > On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Raj wrote: > >> ** >> Per compatibility matrix, the following Java versions are listed as >> compatible but my question was more inclined to the need of Java, is Java >> needed for ARS, EE or MT ? >> Where can I find this information in BMC docs to support this...? >> >> 1. Java 2 Platform, Standard Edition version 5 Update 12 for ARS >> 7.6.04 >> Java Platform, Standard Edition version 6 Update 17 for ARS 8.1 >> As we are planning on installing ARS, EE and MT on separate servers so >> trying to understand the need for Java. >> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ >> > > _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: Java for ARS Install?
The core ARS does not need Java (yet). The Email Engine does and so does Mid Tier (actually the JSP engine does). The reliance on Java is constantly increasing and in some cases where it is not needed today it will be needed in the future. You might as well plan on installing Java on everything except you DB server (at least for MS SQL Server). Jason On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Raj wrote: > ** > Per compatibility matrix, the following Java versions are listed as > compatible but my question was more inclined to the need of Java, is Java > needed for ARS, EE or MT ? > Where can I find this information in BMC docs to support this...? > > 1. Java 2 Platform, Standard Edition version 5 Update 12 for ARS > 7.6.04 > Java Platform, Standard Edition version 6 Update 17 for ARS 8.1 > As we are planning on installing ARS, EE and MT on separate servers so > trying to understand the need for Java. > _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: Java for ARS Install?
Per compatibility matrix, the following Java versions are listed as compatible but my question was more inclined to the need of Java, is Java needed for ARS, EE or MT ? Where can I find this information in BMC docs to support this...? 1. Java 2 Platform, Standard Edition version 5 Update 12 for ARS 7.6.04 Java Platform, Standard Edition version 6 Update 17 for ARS 8.1 As we are planning on installing ARS, EE and MT on separate servers so trying to understand the need for Java. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: Java for ARS Install?
Hi, Which version of java you are using currently? ARS 7.x, 8.x supports Java > 1.5 version. Regards, Rajkumar Padole. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Raj Sent: 08 October 2013 12:55 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Java for ARS Install? ** Thanks Lj. Would the need change if I am performing an ARS upgrade from 5.1.2.(5.1.2>6.3>7.1>7.6.04>8.1)? No ITSM. _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: Java for ARS Install?
Well...I don't recall exactly when the Java plugin server started being used for some plugins instead of C by defaultI'm pretty sure that the web services plugin turned Java in 7.6.04I know the LDAP one is Java in 8.1even with no ITSM you have ootb ones that are in usefor most of the Java plugins there are C alternatives still available...so 'need' is a relative termbut for standard config, yes it's needed as early as 7.6.04, maybe earlier. On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Raj wrote: > ** > Thanks Lj. > Would the need change if I am performing an ARS upgrade from > 5.1.2.(5.1.2>6.3>7.1>7.6.04>8.1)? No ITSM. > _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: Java for ARS Install?
Thanks Lj. Would the need change if I am performing an ARS upgrade from 5.1.2.(5.1.2>6.3>7.1>7.6.04>8.1)? No ITSM. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: Java for ARS Install?
Raj, Many plugins to Remedy are now Java based, so all 3 components you mention are now in need of Java. On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Raj wrote: > ** > Hi All, > Looking at the compatibility matrix for ARS 7.6.04, 8.0, 8.1 and it lists > minimum version of Java supported. > Just wanted to clarify, is Java only needed for Midtier and Email Engine > or it is also needed for ARS Install? > As we plan to install ARS, Email Engine, Midtier on all separate > servers/VMs. > > Please advise. > Thanks, > Raj > _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Java for ARS Install?
Hi All, Looking at the compatibility matrix for ARS 7.6.04, 8.0, 8.1 and it lists minimum version of Java supported. Just wanted to clarify, is Java only needed for Midtier and Email Engine or it is also needed for ARS Install? As we plan to install ARS, Email Engine, Midtier on all separate servers/VMs. Please advise. Thanks, Raj ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
