Re: LOB Space Reclaim Issue

2008-10-28 Thread Garrison, Sean (Norcross)
I have not had your exact issue but we were able to reclaim our db by running a 
script located in the RemedyAndOracleCLOBS.pdf document.  It details how to 
reclaim space and gives an oracle stored procedure you can use to change all 
lob storage to In-Row from Out of Row.  By running the procedure our db 
size was reduced from 43 gig to less than 8 gig successfully.  We did not run 
into the same issues you are having.  We are on Oracle 10g patch 10.2.0.3.0 64 
bit.

Thanks,

Sean

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Subject: LOB Space Reclaim Issue

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Hi,

I just wanted to find out if anyone has had this problem and possibly how the 
issue was resolved.

Details of the problem is below.

Thank you in advance,

Duy Do
Broadcast Australia

Database Version

Database is on Oracle 10G 10.2.0.2.0 Standard Edition on Sun Solaris.

Operation done

Database is growing, so after the deletes in Development database, we tried 
Space reclaim of the tables containing LOB segments by running 'alter table 
table_name enable row movement' and 'alter table table_name shrink space 
cascade'. Space Reclaim was successful.

Observed Problem

But after that, the read access to the database Lobs gave ORA-1555 Snapshot 
too old error messsage.

Patch Apply

Found  Applied Patch 5636728 which was to address FALSE ORA-1555 WHEN READING 
LOBS AFTER SHRINK, but it didn't help.

Later Steps

Finally, we had to restore the original Dev database from the backup.

Fortunately this test was done on the Development database with the intention 
of doing it on Production later.

Currently the DB is on Oracle 10.2.0.2.0, latest patchset 10.2.0.4 will be 
applied at some point in time as per the compatibility with the Application.

But the patch 5636728, which was to address false Ora-1555 after LOB shrink, 
was applied successfully. But the ORA-1555 problem remained.

Error showed up when Action Remedy application tried to access the data after 
the LOB space shrink.

Even export gave the same error.

The Original Dev database as per before the Space shrink was restored from the 
backup.


Frequency of the error

Consistently

Impact to the Business

Production database is growing and we need to be able to reclaim space

We still have the problematic database copy with the LOBs shrunk, so any 
diagnostic scripts or actions as advised can be run there.



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Re: LOB Space Reclaim Issue

2008-10-28 Thread Shellman, David
Sean,
 
I've checked on the support web site and developer network for the
RemedyAndOracleCLOBS.pdf.  Could you point me to where you found the
document?
 
Thanks,
Dave
 


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Subject: Re: LOB Space Reclaim Issue


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I have not had your exact issue but we were able to reclaim our db by
running a script located in the RemedyAndOracleCLOBS.pdf document.  It
details how to reclaim space and gives an oracle stored procedure you
can use to change all lob storage to In-Row from Out of Row.  By
running the procedure our db size was reduced from 43 gig to less than 8
gig successfully.  We did not run into the same issues you are having.
We are on Oracle 10g patch 10.2.0.3.0 64 bit.

 

Thanks,

 

Sean

 

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Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 1:10 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: LOB Space Reclaim Issue

 

** 

Hi,

 

I just wanted to find out if anyone has had this problem and possibly
how the issue was resolved.

 

Details of the problem is below.

 

Thank you in advance,

 

Duy Do

Broadcast Australia

 

Database Version

 

Database is on Oracle 10G 10.2.0.2.0 Standard Edition on Sun Solaris.

 

Operation done

 

Database is growing, so after the deletes in Development database, we
tried Space reclaim of the tables containing LOB segments by running
'alter table table_name enable row movement' and 'alter table table_name
shrink space cascade'. Space Reclaim was successful.

 

Observed Problem

 

But after that, the read access to the database Lobs gave ORA-1555
Snapshot too old error messsage.

 

Patch Apply

 

Found  Applied Patch 5636728 which was to address FALSE ORA-1555 WHEN
READING LOBS AFTER SHRINK, but it didn't help.

 

Later Steps

 

Finally, we had to restore the original Dev database from the backup.

 

Fortunately this test was done on the Development database with the
intention of doing it on Production later.

 

Currently the DB is on Oracle 10.2.0.2.0, latest patchset 10.2.0.4 will
be applied at some point in time as per the compatibility with the
Application.

 

But the patch 5636728, which was to address false Ora-1555 after LOB
shrink, was applied successfully. But the ORA-1555 problem remained.

 

Error showed up when Action Remedy application tried to access the data
after the LOB space shrink.

 

Even export gave the same error.

 

The Original Dev database as per before the Space shrink was restored
from the backup.

 

 

Frequency of the error

 

Consistently

 

Impact to the Business 

 

Production database is growing and we need to be able to reclaim space 

 

We still have the problematic database copy with the LOBs shrunk, so any
diagnostic scripts or actions as advised can be run there.

 

 

 



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Re: LOB Space Reclaim Issue

2008-10-28 Thread Joe DeSouza
I'm wondering where you found that document too.. I don't think I came across 
such a document anywhere..

Joe





From: Shellman, David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:38:44 PM
Subject: Re: LOB Space Reclaim Issue

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Sean,
 
I've checked on the support web site and developer network for the 
RemedyAndOracleCLOBS.pdf.  Could you point me to where you found the document?
 
Thanks,
Dave
 



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On Behalf Of Garrison, Sean (Norcross)
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 10:49 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: LOB Space Reclaim Issue

** 
I have not had your exact issue but we were able to reclaim our db by running a 
script located in the RemedyAndOracleCLOBS.pdf document.  It details how to 
reclaim space and gives an oracle stored procedure you can use to change all 
lob storage to In-Row from Out of Row.  By running the procedure our db 
size was reduced from 43 gig to less than 8 gig successfully.  We did not run 
into the same issues you are having.  We are on Oracle 10g patch 10.2.0.3.0 64 
bit.
 
Thanks,
 
Sean
 
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On Behalf Of Do Duy
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 1:10 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: LOB Space Reclaim Issue
 
** 
Hi,
 
I just wanted to find out if anyone has had this problem and possibly how the 
issue was resolved.
 
Details of the problem is below.
 
Thank you in advance,
 
Duy Do
Broadcast Australia
 
Database Version
 
Database is on Oracle 10G 10.2.0.2.0 Standard Edition on Sun Solaris.
 
Operation done
 
Database is growing, so after the deletes in Development database, we tried 
Space reclaim of the tables containing LOB segments by running 'alter table 
table_name enable row movement' and 'alter table table_name shrink space 
cascade'. Space Reclaim was successful.
 
Observed Problem
 
But after that, the read access to the database Lobs gave ORA-1555 Snapshot 
too old error messsage.
 
Patch Apply
 
Found  Applied Patch 5636728 which was to address FALSE ORA-1555 WHEN READING 
LOBS AFTER SHRINK, but it didn't help.
 
Later Steps
 
Finally, we had to restore the original Dev database from the backup.
 
Fortunately this test was done on the Development database with the intention 
of doing it on Production later.
 
Currently the DB is on Oracle 10.2.0.2.0, latest patchset 10.2.0.4 will be 
applied at some point in time as per the compatibility with the Application.
 
But the patch 5636728, which was to address false Ora-1555 after LOB shrink, 
was applied successfully. But the ORA-1555 problem remained.
 
Error showed up when Action Remedy application tried to access the data after 
the LOB space shrink.
 
Even export gave the same error.
 
The Original Dev database as per before the Space shrink was restored from the 
backup.
 
 
Frequency of the error
 
Consistently
 
Impact to the Business 
 
Production database is growing and we need to be able to reclaim space 
 
We still have the problematic database copy with the LOBs shrunk, so any 
diagnostic scripts or actions as advised can be run there.
 
 
 
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Re: LOB Space Reclaim Issue

2008-10-28 Thread Walters, Mark
The Using Oracle CLOBs with BMC Remedy Action Request System whitepaper is here;
 
http://www.bmc.com/supportu/documents/96/63/89663/89663.pdf
 
Mark

 


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Sent: Tue 28/10/2008 21:22
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: LOB Space Reclaim Issue


** 
I'm wondering where you found that document too.. I don't think I came across 
such a document anywhere..
 
Joe




From: Shellman, David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:38:44 PM
Subject: Re: LOB Space Reclaim Issue

** 
Sean,
 
I've checked on the support web site and developer network for the 
RemedyAndOracleCLOBS.pdf.  Could you point me to where you found the document?
 
Thanks,
Dave
 


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On Behalf Of Garrison, Sean (Norcross)
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 10:49 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: LOB Space Reclaim Issue


** 

I have not had your exact issue but we were able to reclaim our db by running a 
script located in the RemedyAndOracleCLOBS.pdf document.  It details how to 
reclaim space and gives an oracle stored procedure you can use to change all 
lob storage to In-Row from Out of Row.  By running the procedure our db 
size was reduced from 43 gig to less than 8 gig successfully.  We did not run 
into the same issues you are having.  We are on Oracle 10g patch 10.2.0.3.0 64 
bit.

 

Thanks,

 

Sean

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Do Duy
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 1:10 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: LOB Space Reclaim Issue

 

** 

Hi,

 

I just wanted to find out if anyone has had this problem and possibly how the 
issue was resolved.

 

Details of the problem is below.

 

Thank you in advance,

 

Duy Do

Broadcast Australia

 

Database Version

 

Database is on Oracle 10G 10.2.0.2.0 Standard Edition on Sun Solaris.

 

Operation done

 

Database is growing, so after the deletes in Development database, we tried 
Space reclaim of the tables containing LOB segments by running 'alter table 
table_name enable row movement' and 'alter table table_name shrink space 
cascade'. Space Reclaim was successful.

 

Observed Problem

 

But after that, the read access to the database Lobs gave ORA-1555 Snapshot 
too old error messsage.

 

Patch Apply

 

Found  Applied Patch 5636728 which was to address FALSE ORA-1555 WHEN READING 
LOBS AFTER SHRINK, but it didn't help.

 

Later Steps

 

Finally, we had to restore the original Dev database from the backup.

 

Fortunately this test was done on the Development database with the intention 
of doing it on Production later.

 

Currently the DB is on Oracle 10.2.0.2.0, latest patchset 10.2.0.4 will be 
applied at some point in time as per the compatibility with the Application.

 

But the patch 5636728, which was to address false Ora-1555 after LOB shrink, 
was applied successfully. But the ORA-1555 problem remained.

 

Error showed up when Action Remedy application tried to access the data after 
the LOB space shrink.

 

Even export gave the same error.

 

The Original Dev database as per before the Space shrink was restored from the 
backup.

 

 

Frequency of the error

 

Consistently

 

Impact to the Business 

 

Production database is growing and we need to be able to reclaim space 

 

We still have the problematic database copy with the LOBs shrunk, so any 
diagnostic scripts or actions as advised can be run there.

 

 

 

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LOB Space Reclaim Issue

2008-10-27 Thread Do Duy
Hi,

 

I just wanted to find out if anyone has had this problem and possibly
how the issue was resolved.

 

Details of the problem is below.

 

Thank you in advance,

 

Duy Do

Broadcast Australia

 

Database Version

 

Database is on Oracle 10G 10.2.0.2.0 Standard Edition on Sun Solaris.

 

Operation done

 

Database is growing, so after the deletes in Development database, we
tried Space reclaim of the tables containing LOB segments by running
'alter table table_name enable row movement' and 'alter table table_name
shrink space cascade'. Space Reclaim was successful.

 

Observed Problem

 

But after that, the read access to the database Lobs gave ORA-1555
Snapshot too old error messsage.

 

Patch Apply

 

Found  Applied Patch 5636728 which was to address FALSE ORA-1555 WHEN
READING LOBS AFTER SHRINK, but it didn't help.

 

Later Steps

 

Finally, we had to restore the original Dev database from the backup.

 

Fortunately this test was done on the Development database with the
intention of doing it on Production later.

 

Currently the DB is on Oracle 10.2.0.2.0, latest patchset 10.2.0.4 will
be applied at some point in time as per the compatibility with the
Application.

 

But the patch 5636728, which was to address false Ora-1555 after LOB
shrink, was applied successfully. But the ORA-1555 problem remained.

 

Error showed up when Action Remedy application tried to access the data
after the LOB space shrink.

 

Even export gave the same error.

 

The Original Dev database as per before the Space shrink was restored
from the backup.

 

 

Frequency of the error

 

Consistently

 

Impact to the Business 

 

Production database is growing and we need to be able to reclaim space .

 

We still have the problematic database copy with the LOBs shrunk, so any
diagnostic scripts or actions as advised can be run there.

 


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