Re: ARS 7.5 and MidTier sharing the same hardware?
Thanks for the input. Since it's a resource issue and not a compatibility issue I think I'll do same box for dev/qa the seperate for production so that when v8 comes, I'll be ready as James suggested. On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 8:17 AM, jham36 jha...@gmail.com wrote: You might as well build another box now for the mid-tier. You will need it for when the User Tool goes away. James On Jun 8, 7:43 pm, Axton axton.gr...@gmail.com wrote: The main issues have to do with contentions on resources, such as memory, cpu cycles, and storage. Depending on the hardware you have and the current and projected utilization, you may not have any issues. Axton Grams These statements represent my opinion and nothing more. On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Steve McDonald s.mcdonald.arsl...@gmail.com wrote: ** The install manual only recommends you don't. What are the consequences if I do? We don't heavily use the midtier so if I don't have to hassle with more equipment I'd rather not. I already have seperate application and database hardware. Thanks in advance for your insight. Solaris 10 Informix 10 Upgrading from v7.1 to v7.5 _attend WWRUG10www.wwrug.comARSlist: Where the Answers Are_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives atwww.arslist.org attend wwrug10www.wwrug.comARSlist: Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug10 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug10 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers Are
Re: ARS 7.5 and MidTier sharing the same hardware?
Steve, You can, but it only means that there is very little resource you would be able to allocate your web server with - and you may run the risk of the web server crashing regularly or at least more frequently. If you are on Tomcat, it will be OutOfMemory kind of errors, if on IIS an error similar to that.. If you can live with having to restart your web server more frequently go ahead and have them all on a single machine.. Joe -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on Behalf Of Steve McDonald Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 4:47 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: ARS 7.5 and MidTier sharing the same hardware? ** The install manual only recommends you don't. What are the consequences if I do? We don't heavily use the midtier so if I don't have to hassle with more equipment I'd rather not. I already have seperate application and database hardware. Thanks in advance for your insight. Solaris 10 Informix 10 Upgrading from v7.1 to v7.5 ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug10 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers Are
Re: ARS 7.5 and MidTier sharing the same hardware?
The main issues have to do with contentions on resources, such as memory, cpu cycles, and storage. Depending on the hardware you have and the current and projected utilization, you may not have any issues. Axton Grams These statements represent my opinion and nothing more. On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Steve McDonald s.mcdonald.arsl...@gmail.com wrote: ** The install manual only recommends you don't. What are the consequences if I do? We don't heavily use the midtier so if I don't have to hassle with more equipment I'd rather not. I already have seperate application and database hardware. Thanks in advance for your insight. Solaris 10 Informix 10 Upgrading from v7.1 to v7.5 _attend WWRUG10 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers Are_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug10 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers Are
Re: ARS 7.5 and MidTier sharing the same hardware?
Steve, As others mentioned, it's only a problem if your resources are limited and both need too much memory..I run in this configuration in my Dev environment without issue. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Steve McDonald Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 2:47 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: ARS 7.5 and MidTier sharing the same hardware? ** The install manual only recommends you don't. What are the consequences if I do? We don't heavily use the midtier so if I don't have to hassle with more equipment I'd rather not. I already have seperate application and database hardware. Thanks in advance for your insight. Solaris 10 Informix 10 Upgrading from v7.1 to v7.5 _attend WWRUG10 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers Are_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug10 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers Are
Re: ARS 7.5 and MidTier sharing the same hardware?
Based upon the incredible numbers of network connections that we have been seeing between test servers with ARS 7.5 and the 7.6 apps, where mid-tier and flashboards were ONLY installed on a separate server and were used for the AtriumCore console, data visualization modules, and KPI flashboards by specifying them in the web path, we have decided to install one mid-tier and the flashboards server locally on the AR server (24 gb RAM and 16 cores) specifically to serve those functions. There is still a dedicated mid-tier server on a separate box for general use by support staff and customers, and all publicized links and email notifications will lead them to that mid-tier. The local mid-tier will just be part of the plumbing, to cut down on the network connections. Christopher Strauss, Ph.D. Call Tracking Administration Manager University of North Texas Computing IT Center http://itsm.unt.edu/ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Axton Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 6:44 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: ARS 7.5 and MidTier sharing the same hardware? ** The main issues have to do with contentions on resources, such as memory, cpu cycles, and storage. Depending on the hardware you have and the current and projected utilization, you may not have any issues. Axton Grams These statements represent my opinion and nothing more. On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Steve McDonald s.mcdonald.arsl...@gmail.commailto:s.mcdonald.arsl...@gmail.com wrote: ** The install manual only recommends you don't. What are the consequences if I do? We don't heavily use the midtier so if I don't have to hassle with more equipment I'd rather not. I already have seperate application and database hardware. Thanks in advance for your insight. Solaris 10 Informix 10 Upgrading from v7.1 to v7.5 _attend WWRUG10 www.wwrug.comhttp://www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers Are_ _attend WWRUG10 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers Are_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug10 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers Are
Re: ARS 7.5 and MidTier sharing the same hardware?
You might as well build another box now for the mid-tier. You will need it for when the User Tool goes away. James On Jun 8, 7:43 pm, Axton axton.gr...@gmail.com wrote: The main issues have to do with contentions on resources, such as memory, cpu cycles, and storage. Depending on the hardware you have and the current and projected utilization, you may not have any issues. Axton Grams These statements represent my opinion and nothing more. On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Steve McDonald s.mcdonald.arsl...@gmail.com wrote: ** The install manual only recommends you don't. What are the consequences if I do? We don't heavily use the midtier so if I don't have to hassle with more equipment I'd rather not. I already have seperate application and database hardware. Thanks in advance for your insight. Solaris 10 Informix 10 Upgrading from v7.1 to v7.5 _attend WWRUG10www.wwrug.comARSlist: Where the Answers Are_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives atwww.arslist.org attend wwrug10www.wwrug.comARSlist: Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug10 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers Are
