Re: Re : Re : too many Migrator errors.
Hi Frex, Maybe I am coming too late on this discussion. I would like to share some inputs. I work with Migrator since many years and all version against almost all ARS servers. Yes sometimes it's hard to make it running as we want (I mean as we imagine to want), but in my experience usually it's because we forgot something on the Migrator configuration or in the sequence we want to use it. In your case, hoping to help you, I suggest to check the following: If you are migrating objects -> - Migrate regular forms before joins. - Migrate FLT and AL before respective Guides - Check the Option to not migrate any DATA. - etc... I am quite sure you did check this. If you are confident with the objects you are migrating, make sure to disable all required objects on the Migrator Options (Migration/Required Objects). This will make faster and easier the migration...but you must secure the source objects (make sure to have the right ones). Make sure the source server is allowing unqualified search (permissions for AL and forms are depending on this option in your server configuration because it queries the Groups). When migrating data: Keep in mind the DATA model you want to change and make sure you understand how the IDs are managed (it works in a similar way as AR Import). Also Keep in mind that Migrator is doing a Merge, so all workflow triggering on Merge may fire...so you will have a Filter Limitation... Usually, you have to set the option to avoid workflow firing. But I use to add a filter that bypasses all workflow (goto ). After a migration, run a difference report to make sure nothing was forgotten. There are several things like that to double check, but once this is done, Migrator is a powerfull tool and it works fine. Additionally, it provides a detailed migration report which helps a lot to understand what run wrong, writen in an ARS language. Hope this helps. Cheers ilidio Moreira da Silva Silogis International SA Zurich - Switzerland Le 03-Mar-12 5:46 PM, Frex Popo a écrit : ** Yes heard about it but never had time to look at it... but now could be the time. :) Thanks *De :* Rick Cook *À :* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG *Envoyé le :* Vendredi 2 mars 2012 12h29 *Objet :* Re: Re : too many Migrator errors. ** Frex, I find it amazing that errors like these have existed in the product for years, and have not been addressed. I like a lot of BMC's applications, but this one needs a complete rearchitecture. Try Panacea, or any of the other tools developed with this century's technology. Rick On Mar 1, 2012 2:54 PM, "Frex Popo" <mailto:frexp...@yahoo.fr>> wrote: _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
Re : Re : too many Migrator errors.
Yes heard about it but never had time to look at it... but now could be the time. :) Thanks De : Rick Cook À : arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Envoyé le : Vendredi 2 mars 2012 12h29 Objet : Re: Re : too many Migrator errors. ** Frex, I find it amazing that errors like these have existed in the product for years, and have not been addressed. I like a lot of BMC's applications, but this one needs a complete rearchitecture. Try Panacea, or any of the other tools developed with this century's technology. Rick On Mar 1, 2012 2:54 PM, "Frex Popo" wrote: _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
Re : Re : Re : too many Migrator errors.
** yes... I have seen what monkeys can do... they sometimes outperform humans...and all you need is a bag of peanuts :) De : Jose Huerta À : arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Envoyé le : Vendredi 2 mars 2012 12h13Objet : Re: Re : Re : too many Migrator errors. ** I know one, the UMM: Unpaid Monkey Migrator. Train a monkey in creating def files, comparing it and importing differences... (It's Friday...) (But if you consider it, is not as a joke as it seems...) Jose M. HuertaProject Manager Movil: 661 665 088 Telf.: 971 75 03 24 Fax: 971 75 07 94 SM2 Baleares S.A.C/Rita Levi Edificio SM2 Parc Bit 07121 Palma de Mallorca La información contenida en este mensaje de correo electrónico es confidencial. La misma, es enviada con la intención de que únicamente sea leída por la persona(s) a la(s) que va dirigida. El acceso a este mensaje por otras personas no está autorizado, por lo que en tal caso, le rogamos que nos lo comunique por la misma vía, se abstenga de realizar copias del mensaje o remitirlo o entregarlo a otra persona y proceda a borrarlo de inmediato. P Por favor, no imprima este mensaje ni sus documentos adjuntos si no es necesario. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 11:46, Frex Popo <frexp...@yahoo.fr> wrote: ** I am in the process of installing Migrator SP2 and testing. However for the sake of argument is there any other product used for migrating remedy worklfow? thanks in advance De : "Grooms, Frederick W" <frederick.w.gro...@xo.com>À : arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Envoyé le : Jeudi 1 mars 2012 20h35Objet : Re: Re : too many Migrator errors. ** 7.6.04 SP3 was released on Feb 6 (although I didn’t get the email notice until the 16th). Check the EPD site Fred From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Frex PopoSent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 1:13 PMTo: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re : too many Migrator errors. ** Oops! I forgot to mention that I am using the latest version I am using 7.4.6SP2... this was in fact recomended by BMC after we had serious problems with 7.1latest patch.. Anyway, will try and rebuild the cache again and see how it goes thanks De : "Arner, Todd" <tar...@glhec.org>À : arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Envoyé le : Jeudi 1 mars 2012 16h56Objet : Re: too many Migrator errors. ** We had similar issues with the 7.1 version. Also had issues with the migrations being extremely slow. After we upgraded migrator to 7.5 all of our issues seemed to go away. You may also want to try deleting the migrator cache and rebuild it. That has solved issues we’ve seen in the past. FYI, we did use the 7.5 migrator against the 7.1 server with no issues. HTH, Todd Arner From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Frex PopoSent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:34 AMTo: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: too many Migrator errors. ** Dear all, I have been having some serious problems with migrator and would like to know from anyone how opted for some other product. It’s quite unbelievable that a migration fails for one form or some other object, then you fix it and try and migrate the same .migration file only for some other object to fail... so I am looking for something which will save me time and too much grief. I am still on 7.1 servers and tried various migrator versions (t.1 and above) but not luck Any thought will be very much appreciated. Many thanks frex _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"__attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_
Re : Re : too many Migrator errors.
Thanks Fred I downloadd the SP3 and will install it... its says something about a fix to the migrator cache etc ... so perhaps that could be the problem I am having .. Have a nice day De : "Grooms, Frederick W" À : arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Envoyé le : Jeudi 1 mars 2012 20h35 Objet : Re: Re : too many Migrator errors. ** 7.6.04 SP3 was released on Feb 6 (although I didn’t get the email notice until the 16th). Check the EPD site Fred From:Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Frex Popo Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 1:13 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re : too many Migrator errors. ** Oops! I forgot to mention that I am using the latest version I am using 7.4.6SP2... this was in fact recomended by BMC after we had serious problems with 7.1latest patch.. Anyway, will try and rebuild the cache again and see how it goes thanks De :"Arner, Todd" À : arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Envoyé le : Jeudi 1 mars 2012 16h56 Objet : Re: too many Migrator errors. ** We had similar issues with the 7.1 version. Also had issues with the migrations being extremely slow. After we upgraded migrator to 7.5 all of our issues seemed to go away. You may also want to try deleting the migrator cache and rebuild it. That has solved issues we’ve seen in the past. FYI, we did use the 7.5 migrator against the 7.1 server with no issues. HTH, Todd Arner From:Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Frex Popo Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:34 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: too many Migrator errors. ** Dear all, I have been having some serious problems with migrator and would like to know from anyone how opted for some other product. It’s quite unbelievable that a migration fails for one form or some other object, then you fix it and try and migrate the same .migration file only for some other object to fail... so I am looking for something which will save me time and too much grief. I am still on 7.1 servers and tried various migrator versions (t.1 and above) but not luck Any thought will be very much appreciated. Many thanks frex _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Re : too many Migrator errors.
Frex, I find it amazing that errors like these have existed in the product for years, and have not been addressed. I like a lot of BMC's applications, but this one needs a complete rearchitecture. Try Panacea, or any of the other tools developed with this century's technology. Rick On Mar 1, 2012 2:54 PM, "Frex Popo" wrote: ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Re : Re : too many Migrator errors.
I know one, the UMM: Unpaid Monkey Migrator. Train a monkey in creating def files, comparing it and importing differences... (It's Friday...) (But if you consider it, is not as a joke as it seems...) Jose M. Huerta Project Manager** Movil: 661 665 088 Telf.: 971 75 03 24 Fax: 971 75 07 94 <http://www.sm2baleares.es/> SM2 Baleares S.A. C/Rita Levi Edificio SM2 Parc Bit 07121 Palma de Mallorca <http://es-es.facebook.com/pages/SM2-Baleares/158608627954> <http://twitter.com/#!/SM2Baleares> <http://www.linkedin.com/company/sm2-baleares> La información contenida en este mensaje de correo electrónico es confidencial. La misma, es enviada con la intención de que únicamente sea leída por la persona(s) a la(s) que va dirigida. El acceso a este mensaje por otras personas no está autorizado, por lo que en tal caso, le rogamos que nos lo comunique por la misma vía, se abstenga de realizar copias del mensaje o remitirlo o entregarlo a otra persona y proceda a borrarlo de inmediato. P Por favor, no imprima este mensaje ni sus documentos adjuntos si no es necesario. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 11:46, Frex Popo wrote: > ** > I am in the process of installing Migrator SP2 and testing. > However for the sake of argument is there any other product used for > migrating remedy worklfow? > thanks in advance > >*De :* "Grooms, Frederick W" > *À :* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > *Envoyé le :* Jeudi 1 mars 2012 20h35 > *Objet :* Re: Re : too many Migrator errors. > > ** > 7.6.04 SP3 was released on Feb 6 (although I didn’t get the email > notice until the 16th). Check the EPD site > > Fred > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Frex Popo > *Sent:* Thursday, March 01, 2012 1:13 PM > *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > *Subject:* Re : too many Migrator errors. > > ** > Oops! I forgot to mention that I am using the latest version I am using > 7.4.6SP2... this was in fact recomended by BMC after we had serious > problems with 7.1latest patch.. > > Anyway, will try and rebuild the cache again and see how it goes > > thanks > > *De :* "Arner, Todd" > *À :* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > *Envoyé le :* Jeudi 1 mars 2012 16h56 > *Objet :* Re: too many Migrator errors. > > ** > We had similar issues with the 7.1 version. Also had issues with the > migrations being extremely slow. After we upgraded migrator to 7.5 all of > our issues seemed to go away. You may also want to try deleting the > migrator cache and rebuild it. That has solved issues we’ve seen in the > past. FYI, we did use the 7.5 migrator against the 7.1 server with no > issues. > > HTH, > Todd Arner > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Frex Popo > *Sent:* Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:34 AM > *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > *Subject:* too many Migrator errors. > > ** > Dear all, > > I have been having some serious problems with migrator and would like > to know from anyone how opted for some other product. > It’s quite unbelievable that a migration fails for one form or some > other object, then you fix it and try and migrate the same .migration file > only for some other object to fail... so I am looking for something which > will save me time and too much grief. > I am still on 7.1 servers and tried various migrator versions (t.1 and > above) but not luck > Any thought will be very much appreciated. > Many thanks > frex > > > _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ > > > _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are" <><><><>
Re : Re : too many Migrator errors.
I am in the process of installing Migrator SP2 and testing. However for the sake of argument is there any other product used for migrating remedy worklfow? thanks in advance De : "Grooms, Frederick W" À : arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Envoyé le : Jeudi 1 mars 2012 20h35 Objet : Re: Re : too many Migrator errors. ** 7.6.04 SP3 was released on Feb 6 (although I didn’t get the email notice until the 16th). Check the EPD site Fred From:Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Frex Popo Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 1:13 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re : too many Migrator errors. ** Oops! I forgot to mention that I am using the latest version I am using 7.4.6SP2... this was in fact recomended by BMC after we had serious problems with 7.1latest patch.. Anyway, will try and rebuild the cache again and see how it goes thanks De :"Arner, Todd" À : arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Envoyé le : Jeudi 1 mars 2012 16h56 Objet : Re: too many Migrator errors. ** We had similar issues with the 7.1 version. Also had issues with the migrations being extremely slow. After we upgraded migrator to 7.5 all of our issues seemed to go away. You may also want to try deleting the migrator cache and rebuild it. That has solved issues we’ve seen in the past. FYI, we did use the 7.5 migrator against the 7.1 server with no issues. HTH, Todd Arner From:Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Frex Popo Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:34 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: too many Migrator errors. ** Dear all, I have been having some serious problems with migrator and would like to know from anyone how opted for some other product. It’s quite unbelievable that a migration fails for one form or some other object, then you fix it and try and migrate the same .migration file only for some other object to fail... so I am looking for something which will save me time and too much grief. I am still on 7.1 servers and tried various migrator versions (t.1 and above) but not luck Any thought will be very much appreciated. Many thanks frex _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
Re : Re : too many Migrator errors.
I was about to downgrade! :) Thanks Fred De : "Grooms, Frederick W" À : arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Envoyé le : Jeudi 1 mars 2012 20h35 Objet : Re: Re : too many Migrator errors. ** 7.6.04 SP3 was released on Feb 6 (although I didn’t get the email notice until the 16th). Check the EPD site Fred From:Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Frex Popo Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 1:13 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re : too many Migrator errors. ** Oops! I forgot to mention that I am using the latest version I am using 7.4.6SP2... this was in fact recomended by BMC after we had serious problems with 7.1latest patch.. Anyway, will try and rebuild the cache again and see how it goes thanks De :"Arner, Todd" À : arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Envoyé le : Jeudi 1 mars 2012 16h56 Objet : Re: too many Migrator errors. ** We had similar issues with the 7.1 version. Also had issues with the migrations being extremely slow. After we upgraded migrator to 7.5 all of our issues seemed to go away. You may also want to try deleting the migrator cache and rebuild it. That has solved issues we’ve seen in the past. FYI, we did use the 7.5 migrator against the 7.1 server with no issues. HTH, Todd Arner From:Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Frex Popo Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:34 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: too many Migrator errors. ** Dear all, I have been having some serious problems with migrator and would like to know from anyone how opted for some other product. It’s quite unbelievable that a migration fails for one form or some other object, then you fix it and try and migrate the same .migration file only for some other object to fail... so I am looking for something which will save me time and too much grief. I am still on 7.1 servers and tried various migrator versions (t.1 and above) but not luck Any thought will be very much appreciated. Many thanks frex _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Re : too many Migrator errors.
7.6.04 SP3 was released on Feb 6 (although I didn’t get the email notice until the 16th). Check the EPD site Fred From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Frex Popo Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 1:13 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re : too many Migrator errors. ** Oops! I forgot to mention that I am using the latest version I am using 7.4.6SP2... this was in fact recomended by BMC after we had serious problems with 7.1latest patch.. Anyway, will try and rebuild the cache again and see how it goes thanks De : "Arner, Todd" À : arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Envoyé le : Jeudi 1 mars 2012 16h56 Objet : Re: too many Migrator errors. ** We had similar issues with the 7.1 version. Also had issues with the migrations being extremely slow. After we upgraded migrator to 7.5 all of our issues seemed to go away. You may also want to try deleting the migrator cache and rebuild it. That has solved issues we’ve seen in the past. FYI, we did use the 7.5 migrator against the 7.1 server with no issues. HTH, Todd Arner From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Frex Popo Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:34 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: too many Migrator errors. ** Dear all, I have been having some serious problems with migrator and would like to know from anyone how opted for some other product. It’s quite unbelievable that a migration fails for one form or some other object, then you fix it and try and migrate the same .migration file only for some other object to fail... so I am looking for something which will save me time and too much grief. I am still on 7.1 servers and tried various migrator versions (t.1 and above) but not luck Any thought will be very much appreciated. Many thanks frex ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
