Re: [art] Presentation at the OOoCon this morning = Next Steps
Hi Bernhard, all, I would love to be able to reply to this but unfortunately, as with yourself, time is scarce. From tomorrow I will be away on holiday for a week. Hopefully, in the meantime, more art project members can chip in with their thoughts - I don't want this to become a discussion just between us two, but at the same time it would be a shame for this discussion to go unaddressed. So, please expect a reply from me in a week's time, but in the meantime, I wish you (and this discussion :)) all the best! Regards, Ivan. On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Bernhard Dippold bernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote: Hi Ivan, all, sorry for not replying earlier, but this week I'm more busy with my job than at other times... (even this reply will be short...) Ivan M schrieb: Hi Bernhard, all, On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Bernhard Dippold bernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote: [...] With regard to a new branding project I mentioned my interest in including people from the different projects - and this seems to be taken quite positively. Excellent! Then our next step could be to engage with these different projects to develop a framework/structure/scope for the new project. They will probably be able to offer valuable inputs about things we may not have considered yet. There are two things necessarily to be decided before the creation of a new incubator project: - the project mission statement - the project's name All the other decisions on the project could be done afterwards, but I don't think we should hurry anyway. As multi-project discussions are quite problematic (not all the mails are posted to all the relevant lists, some have to become moderated) - what do you think of a dedicated wiki page where we could collect the relevant thoughts and ideas? As an aside, did you get any comments specifically from Sun staff? I don't think we'll be able to get very far if they're not on board with us. All the Sun people I talked to agreed in the necessity to work together on a general branding. For Stefan Taxhet the first step before creating an entirely new set of branding artwork would be to look among the present artwork and define a general branding including these designs. I'm sorry that Stella has not been at Orvieto, but Stefan, Martin Hollmichel and others agree with me, that she should be involved in any development in that area. Perhaps there might be a chance for a face-to-face meeting at Hamburg during the next months... [...] The video documentation [4] will contain my session too at the end of the day. Unfortunately the live stream did not work for the room you were in (some of the others were working at the time), so I watched the video later on (I saw Christoph come up to talk to you before the presenation, so it's great that you were able to meet!) We stayed at the same hotel as neighbours... - you covered all the bases really well, especially at the beginning, with the comparison of the splash screens and various OOo website pages. That makes a very strong case for a new project to coordinate OOo's branding/identity. Thank you for the kind feedback :-) The people I talked to at Orvieto seemed to understand what I wanted to address, so I think, it has been a success. Thank you Bernhard for being the voice of the art project at OOoCon! It was great being there - I met a lot of people I only knew from the lists and had a really good time there. Perhaps there might be a chance at one of the next OOoCons to meet more people from the Art Project (or what ever it's new name will be...) Remember: Next year's OOoCon will be at Budapest, for 2011 and 2012 the Call for Locations will start in a few weeks. So if there is an active OOo group near one of you, talk to them. Perhaps we'll have a OOoCon at your place... Best regards Bernhard Regards, Ivan. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Presentation at the OOoCon this morning = Next Steps
On Thursday 12 November 2009 11:30:51 Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Bernhard, Hi Ivan, all, sorry for not replying earlier, but this week I'm more busy with my job than at other times... (even this reply will be short...) Like Ivan I'm sorry I haven't replied more fully. After my daughters wedding this weekend I'll be able make a little more sensible input. This discussion is too important to let lie. Cheers GL Ivan M schrieb: Hi Bernhard, all, On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Bernhard Dippold bernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote: [...] With regard to a new branding project I mentioned my interest in including people from the different projects - and this seems to be taken quite positively. Excellent! Then our next step could be to engage with these different projects to develop a framework/structure/scope for the new project. They will probably be able to offer valuable inputs about things we may not have considered yet. There are two things necessarily to be decided before the creation of a new incubator project: - the project mission statement - the project's name All the other decisions on the project could be done afterwards, but I don't think we should hurry anyway. As multi-project discussions are quite problematic (not all the mails are posted to all the relevant lists, some have to become moderated) - what do you think of a dedicated wiki page where we could collect the relevant thoughts and ideas? As an aside, did you get any comments specifically from Sun staff? I don't think we'll be able to get very far if they're not on board with us. All the Sun people I talked to agreed in the necessity to work together on a general branding. For Stefan Taxhet the first step before creating an entirely new set of branding artwork would be to look among the present artwork and define a general branding including these designs. I'm sorry that Stella has not been at Orvieto, but Stefan, Martin Hollmichel and others agree with me, that she should be involved in any development in that area. Perhaps there might be a chance for a face-to-face meeting at Hamburg during the next months... [...] The video documentation [4] will contain my session too at the end of the day. Unfortunately the live stream did not work for the room you were in (some of the others were working at the time), so I watched the video later on (I saw Christoph come up to talk to you before the presenation, so it's great that you were able to meet!) We stayed at the same hotel as neighbours... - you covered all the bases really well, especially at the beginning, with the comparison of the splash screens and various OOo website pages. That makes a very strong case for a new project to coordinate OOo's branding/identity. Thank you for the kind feedback :-) The people I talked to at Orvieto seemed to understand what I wanted to address, so I think, it has been a success. Thank you Bernhard for being the voice of the art project at OOoCon! It was great being there - I met a lot of people I only knew from the lists and had a really good time there. Perhaps there might be a chance at one of the next OOoCons to meet more people from the Art Project (or what ever it's new name will be...) Remember: Next year's OOoCon will be at Budapest, for 2011 and 2012 the Call for Locations will start in a few weeks. So if there is an active OOo group near one of you, talk to them. Perhaps we'll have a OOoCon at your place... Best regards Bernhard Regards, Ivan. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html INGOTs Moderator New Zealand www.theingots.org.nz - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Presentation at the OOoCon this morning = Next Steps
Hi Graham, Ivan, all Graham Lauder schrieb: On Thursday 12 November 2009 11:30:51 Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Bernhard, Hi Ivan, all, sorry for not replying earlier, but this week I'm more busy with my job than at other times... (even this reply will be short...) Like Ivan I'm sorry I haven't replied more fully. After my daughters wedding this weekend I'll be able make a little more sensible input. This discussion is too important to let lie. Please take all the time you need - we don't have a deadline :-) For me it's important that the task keeps on going. Small steps are sometimes better than larger ones... I'm just trying to put my ideas on a wiki page in order to make them editable for everybody interested in this topic. As the new project will relate to several existing projects and I don't want to have a discussion divided in different parts on several lists. Perhaps the wiki is a better place for inter-project discussion... I'll tell you when the page is ready for public discussion. Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[art] Presentation at the OOoCon this morning
Hi all, I just wanted to tell you a bit about my presentation and the feedback for the poster stand here at Orvieto. I printed the poster [1] on several A4 sheets, took them to the conference and wanted to present them together as A0 poster on the display stands, but the stands consist of metal grid, so I decided to post them one by one. A first glance of them can be seen at [2] and [3]. I added some sheet of paper where people could comment the posters, but this was not used very much. Someone wrote, that she liked the Quill futuristic best and Quill had a better font than the preevious one, she liked the Flying chair too, but thinks that this would not be possible in a business area because they tend to more serious ideas (unfortunately). Someone else voted for Quill as a very good font. In my presentation (will be uploaded soon) most of the comments mentioned the preference of present users especially in business area to stay with the known and modify only what is really necessary. One commenter told from his company where the user were upset by the visual change from OOo2 to OOo3 - they just wanted to update the numbering on the splash screen... I've been asked if we had defined the branding goals before we started to create the logos, and I replied that we did it the other way round: Starting with the ideas by the artists, then present them to the community to find out about the goals the community people prefer - and afterwards work in a group with branding/marketing experts on defining goals for the project the final artwork should follow. With regard to a new branding project I mentioned my interest in including people from the different projects - and this seems to be taken quite positively. (I thought - not too seriously - about a name for the new project - working name might be abcd.openoffice.org for art, branding and corporate design) The video documentation [4] will contain my session too at the end of the day. Best regards Bernhard [1]: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:Logo_presentation_concept.png [2]: http://imagebin.org/70706 [3]: http://imagebin.org/70707 [4]: http://media.lscube.org/oooconf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
