Re: [art] OOoCon09 impress templates.

2009-10-07 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Bernhard,

I extended the information in the template and mentioned the license in 
the meta data at a place where every author will have to read it.


The new version is uploaded to the wiki:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:Ooocon09_presentation_template.otp 


Do you think this is appropriate?


thanks, to me this looks okay!

Florian

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Re: [art] OOoCon09 impress templates.

2009-10-05 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Hi Flo, *

Florian Effenberger schrieb:

Hi Bernhard,


[...]


I propose that as long as the logo is not modified by any means (except
minor changes like size), it can be used for the purpose of OOoCon
presentations, just like we had it all the years before. This includes
generating templates and presentations as well as showing and
distributing them.

[...]

How does that sound to you?


I extended the information in the template and mentioned the license in 
the meta data at a place where every author will have to read it.


The new version is uploaded to the wiki:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:Ooocon09_presentation_template.otp

Do you think this is appropriate?

Best regards

Bernhard

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Re: [art] OOoCon09 impress templates.

2009-10-05 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Hi all,

Bernhard Dippold schrieb:

Hi John, all,

John McCreesh schrieb:

[...] Some of the OOoCon presenters have started to
downloaded it. One of them raised a question:


what about a license information inside the template. I think, we need
this information at the end of the presentation file.[...]


My part of the presentation template is licensed under LGPL. This is
stated at the wiki page where the file is uploaded additionally to the
marketing repository:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:Ooocon09_presentation_template.otp


I updated the file: The first content slide mentions the license:
- LGPL for everything except the logo
- OOoCon logo: proprietary with allowance to use it for presentations at 
the OpenOffice.org Conference 2009


Every presenter knows about the information in the meta data, so the 
license will be accepted for the presentations (or modified for the 
content, if the authors wants to change it).


I didn't upload it to the marketing projects pages 
(/ooocon2009/presentations/ooocon2009.otp).


John, if you think this is ok, please update this file too.

Best regards

Bernhard
>





I included this information in the template's metadata (file -
properties - description) too, but this might be a problem: Every
presentation built with this template will contain this licensing
information if the presenter didn't not remove it. I don't know if it's
fair to license a work without explicit agreement by the author.

It might be better to remove this information to avoid unwanted licensing.


I


What do you think?

Best regards

Bernhard

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Re: [art] OOoCon09 impress templates.

2009-10-05 Thread John McCreesh
On Mon, October 5, 2009 20:50, Graham Lauder wrote:
[snip]
> How about this for an Idea. We, the Art Project, produce a whole pile of
> alternative
> OOo Logos, then the speakers can choose the ones they individually like
> for their
> presentations. Who knows the people at Conf might see one really cool one
> and say:
> "We should have that as our Logo."

I'd love to see a display at OOoCon with proposals for a new OOo logo...
but I think we may have left it a little late for Orvieto?

As far as OOoCon 2009 is concerned, the Conference team have already
designed their logo (as is their 'right' as organisers), and Bernard has
incorporated it into an excellent template. Encouraging people to use a
single template helps the OOoCon branding.

>  Conf is the place for breaking new ideas after all, let's extend that to
> the
> artwork.

Agreed. It would be great to launch a "LOOok for a LOOogo" there!

John
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Re: [art] OOoCon09 impress templates.

2009-10-05 Thread Graham Lauder
> Hi Bernhard,
>
> > As I don't know about the license of the OOoCon09 logo (I assume
> > proprietary like the OOo logo it contains), licensing is a bit unclear
> > as every time the OOo logo is involved.
> >
> > Officially every presenter has to ask for approval at the logo list and
> > if anybody wants to re-use their presentation, (s)he has to ask too.
>
> I don't think this makes much sense. I see that there are open issues
> regarding the license, but it's very important to me that projects take
> no harm due to the planned trademark license.
>
> I propose that as long as the logo is not modified by any means (except
> minor changes like size), it can be used for the purpose of OOoCon
> presentations, just like we had it all the years before. This includes
> generating templates and presentations as well as showing and
> distributing them.
>
> I think that we need no information about the trademark status inside
> the documents, so we can just go on as the last years.
>
> How does that sound to you?
>
> Florian

Frankly I'm with Nik, the Logo license is a nightmare, our opposition updates 
their 
logo with every new version and we are still locked into our original logo from 
the 
start.  Their marketing people say we are still locked back with Office 97 and 
we 
reinforce that attitude in peoples minds by continually recycling our old logo. 
 
And on top of that, from a Philosophical POV we use a Non-Free font.

How about this for an Idea. We, the Art Project, produce a whole pile of 
alternative  
OOo Logos, then the speakers can choose the ones they individually like for 
their 
presentations. Who knows the people at Conf might see one really cool one and 
say: 
"We should have that as our Logo."  

 Conf is the place for breaking new ideas after all, let's extend that to the 
artwork.
 
-- 
Graham Lauder,
OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ
http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html

OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant.

Ambassador for OpenSUSE Linux on your Desktop 

INGOTs Assessor Trainer
(International Grades in Office Technologies)
www.theingots.org.nz


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Re: [art] OOoCon09 impress templates.

2009-10-05 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Bernhard,

As I don't know about the license of the OOoCon09 logo (I assume 
proprietary like the OOo logo it contains), licensing is a bit unclear 
as every time the OOo logo is involved.


Officially every presenter has to ask for approval at the logo list and 
if anybody wants to re-use their presentation, (s)he has to ask too.


I don't think this makes much sense. I see that there are open issues 
regarding the license, but it's very important to me that projects take 
no harm due to the planned trademark license.


I propose that as long as the logo is not modified by any means (except 
minor changes like size), it can be used for the purpose of OOoCon 
presentations, just like we had it all the years before. This includes 
generating templates and presentations as well as showing and 
distributing them.


I think that we need no information about the trademark status inside 
the documents, so we can just go on as the last years.


How does that sound to you?

Florian

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Re: [art] OOoCon09 impress templates.

2009-10-04 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Hi John, all,

John McCreesh schrieb:

On Fri, October 2, 2009 00:23, Bernhard Dippold wrote:

[...]now I uploaded it as a new version of the file you uploaded to the
marketing website:

http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2009/presentations/ooocon2009.otp

I hope, this complies with your aims.


It does - many thanks. Some of the OOoCon presenters have started to
downloaded it. One of them raised a question:


what about a license information inside the template. I think, we need
this information at the end of the presentation file.


Any thoughts?


As I don't know about the license of the OOoCon09 logo (I assume 
proprietary like the OOo logo it contains), licensing is a bit unclear 
as every time the OOo logo is involved.


Officially every presenter has to ask for approval at the logo list and 
if anybody wants to re-use their presentation, (s)he has to ask too.


My part of the presentation template is licensed under LGPL. This is 
stated at the wiki page where the file is uploaded additionally to the 
marketing repository:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:Ooocon09_presentation_template.otp

I included this information in the template's metadata (file - 
properties - description) too, but this might be a problem: Every 
presentation built with this template will contain this licensing 
information if the presenter didn't not remove it. I don't know if it's 
fair to license a work without explicit agreement by the author.


It might be better to remove this information to avoid unwanted licensing.

What do you think?

Best regards

Bernhard

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Re: [art] OOoCon09 impress templates.

2009-10-04 Thread John McCreesh
On Fri, October 2, 2009 00:23, Bernhard Dippold wrote:
> Hi John, all,
>
> Bernhard Dippold schrieb:
>> Hi John, *
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> The new version will be uploaded tonight I hope.
>
> It took some more hours to overcome the problems of not really good
> looking vector metafiles (logo on the title slide) and the curved line
> (polygon instead of bezier curve).
>
> But now I uploaded it as a new version of the file you uploaded to the
> marketing website:
>
> http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2009/presentations/ooocon2009.otp
>
> I hope, this complies with your aims.

It does - many thanks. Some of the OOoCon presenters have started to
downloaded it. One of them raised a question:

> what about a license information inside the template. I think, we need
> this information at the end of the presentation file.

Any thoughts?

John
-- 
John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org
Come to OOoCon in November - http://www.ooocon.org


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Re: [art] OOoCon09 impress templates.

2009-10-01 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Hi John, all,

Bernhard Dippold schrieb:

Hi John, *

[...]

The new version will be uploaded tonight I hope.


It took some more hours to overcome the problems of not really good 
looking vector metafiles (logo on the title slide) and the curved line 
(polygon instead of bezier curve).


But now I uploaded it as a new version of the file you uploaded to the 
marketing website:


http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2009/presentations/ooocon2009.otp

I hope, this complies with your aims.

Best regards

Bernhard

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Re: [art] OOoCon09 impress templates.

2009-09-30 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Hi John, *

John McCreesh schrieb:

On Fri, September 25, 2009 23:58, Bernhard Dippold wrote:

[...]

Please comment: Could this be used as official template for the
OpenOffice.org Conference 2009 at Orvieto?


Yes it can and it will ;-)

Little typo on slide 3 "Second entry thrid level"


I'm just working on this and a few other improvements mentioned by a few 
testers at the DE community.


The new version will be uploaded tonight I hope.

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Re: [art] OOoCon09 impress templates.

2009-09-30 Thread John McCreesh
On Fri, September 25, 2009 23:58, Bernhard Dippold wrote:
> Done :-)
>
> Bernhard Dippold schrieb:
>> [...]  I'll finish the presentation
>> template by adding an Agenda page.
>
> It couldn't be uploaded to the Wiki, so I uploaded it to my website:
>
> I uploaded the file to
> http://www.familie-dippold.at/OpenOffice.org/Presentation_template_for_OOoCon09.otp
>
> Please comment: Could this be used as official template for the
> OpenOffice.org Conference 2009 at Orvieto?

Yes it can and it will ;-)

Little typo on slide 3 "Second entry thrid level"

Thanks - John
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Re: [art] OOoCon09 impress templates.

2009-09-25 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Done :-)

Bernhard Dippold schrieb:

[...]  I'll finish the presentation
template by adding an Agenda page.


It couldn't be uploaded to the Wiki, so I uploaded it to my website:

I uploaded the file to
http://www.familie-dippold.at/OpenOffice.org/Presentation_template_for_OOoCon09.otp

Please comment: Could this be used as official template for the 
OpenOffice.org Conference 2009 at Orvieto?


Best regards

Bernhard

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