Re: [Assam] Late: Padma Kanta Dutta: Founder of Sankar Jayanti at UK in 1983
Dear Rini Baidew Extremely well said about Mahapurush Srimanta Sankaradeva. I can not agree with you more specially about the last line that no genius in the world has been so versatile. It is utter failure on the part of Assamese people including all of us to propagate his philosophy to unite all the original inhabitants of the state irrespective of our caste, creed, community tribe etc. Mayur Chandigarh --- Rini Kakati [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - In the wake of 557th birth anniversary of Mahapurusa Sankaradeva, it remind me of late: Padma Kanta Dutta (my jethu) the founder of Sankar Jayanti celebration at London, who came to visit me in August, 1983. He was the President of Kumar gaon Sankar Mandir at Tezpur and a devout Vaisnavite. He served all his life for Sankar Sangha. During his stay he was very persistent to celebrate Sankar Jayanti Mahotsav in London. Another well-known and a pious lady, late: Subhadra Kakati from Sualkuchi, (Dr. Dinesh Kakati's mother) was also in London at the same time. She was delighted with the idea of starting a Sankar Sangha at London and joined in. Late: Khageshsar Saikia, the secretary of Kumar gaon, Sankar Mandir at Tezpur was also visiting his daughter in Manchester at the same time. What a coincidence ! . I saw it as a Guru blessing in disguise. With Jethu's inspiration and guidance, I was able to organise 535th birth anniversary of Srimanta Sankaradeva at Tavistock Community Hall in Harlesden for the first time with the help of Assamese community in London. Although the idea was initially started by me, apparently it became a joint process of everybody that we are able to praise our Guru and celebrate Sankar Jayanti every year in London. With my head bowed in reverence, I pray to these great three people and thank them for leading us to the path of our Guru Mahapurusa Sankaradeva. Because The history of the Assamese people, the history of its national awareness is the life of Sankaradeva -- he is the pulse of the people. In the last 555th years none of Sankaradeva's stature has been born in Assam. Many religious preachers in this period undoubtedly equals of Sankardeva was their, but none combine like Sankaradeva. He was the poet, the philosopher, the musician, the dramatist, the actor and the producer, the composer of dances, the painter, the much travelled social reformer and the founder of the Vaisnavite faith in one. No genius in the world has been so versatile. Rini Kakati You can view the photo by attachment or below. From the left, Late: Padma Kanta Dutta, founder of Sankar Jayanti at UK along with his friend Late: Khageshsar Saikia in 1983 - Fed up with spam in your inbox? Find out how to deal with junk e-mail here! ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Wrong interpretation
Title: Re: [Assam] Wrong interpretation At 8:31 PM -0700 10/10/05, Bidyut Kakati wrote: To my observation, Umesh is not knowledgeable on Vedic scriptures, he is like other Assamese that is why he is here :) Why are YOU here? Someone forced you? Tsk, Tsk! Varna was not equal to Caste during Vedic age Could be, but how do you know? Why is your interpretation more believable than other interpretations. Not to suggest here that *I* am given to accepting one over the others. But I am a skeptic. I need believable explanations. Krishna said in Geeta one gets Varnas according to his/her individual suitability to provide a particular service - this is true (not caste by birth). For example Parashar, Byash and Viswamitra did not have Brahmin parents (Manusamhita talks how they become Brahman). Similarly, Parasuram was not born to Kshyatriya parents. First off, why should any rational person believe in mythology? I would be willing to accept the notion the lesson here is allegorical. But even if the originally intended lesson was that the reward of self improvement or labor is moving up in the social hierarchy, somewhere in time the allegorical got lost and depraved version of the literal took hold, as Bhuban Kokaideu explained. If so,it poses a couple of questions: A: Why were the Hindu intellectuals unable to point it out the clueless ? What happened to them? And where are they today? B: Obviously the Geeta was not compiled by some fellow in a flowing white beard sitting down under a banyan tree up in the Himalayan foothills, who, one fine morning was handed all the good knowledge by the gods of wisdom. It was a compilation of prevailing wisdom. But how do we know that some of this 'wisdom' , like the Varna system, or its evil progeny - casteism, was not really a ploy, a subterfuge, to validate, to set down as the law, of what already was the prevailing norm of society? There are differences between Bhuban and me (I do not work in the same discipline like he does meaning I have a different Varna) Bidyut That may be Bidyuts take, which he is entitled to. But how does he prove., persuade others, that Varn-ism is different, not the same as the corrosive practice of casteism? How do we know it is not a mere spin to cleanse the stigma of casteism from the Geeta or the other ancient scriptures? Ancient here, brings me to yet another question: Why is it that the ancients alone had the monopoly on the truths and the wisdoms? Have people in general, and the Hindus in particular been unable to rise above what they already did ten thousand (?) years back, to find other wisdoms, learn newer or higher truths? It is one thing for those who believe their scriptures were given to them by their God, and thus are inviolate, not open to interpretation and not subject to be modified to keep pace with times. Hindus are not hamstrung by such fundamentalist dogmas. So one might have hoped they could have evolved far more easily. Why have they not? cm On 10/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/10/2005 21:57:51 GMT Daylight Time, BBaruah writes: Bidyut There is no difference between you and me. What I said wason the basis of the Geeta. There Krishna said that he created the Varnas according to an individual's suitability to provide a particular service. I do not have a copy of the Geeta with me now. I myself didn't know about it; Umesh sent it to me on request.Umesh, I am sure, will oblige if requested. The cases cited prove the point. Of course the original idea misfired at the end. Bhuban On 10/9/05, Bidyut Kakati [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bhubon and Maiki: What Geeta talks is not same as Caste today, because caste today is by birth. Geeta did not talk of by birth but by virtue. For example Parashar, Byash and Viswamitra did not have Brahmin parents (Manusamhita talks how they become Brahman). Similarly, Parasuram was not born to Kshyatriya parents. So it was a wrong interpretation to say God created the caste system - if you compare with today's cast system. My two cents :) On 10/9/05, mc mahant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bhubon Kakaideo, YOU REPLY AS A GOOD IMPARTIAL INTELLECTUAL SHOULD DO--ALL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. We are proud to be your fellow Namti children and maybe being taught by the same great Khagen Barboruah. mm From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Assam] Rediff: US lawmakers flay India for human rights abuse Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 02:11:04 EDT I think I can attempt to answer Mike's basic questions at least partially. Dalit and Untouchables are not words to be found in the Hindu scriptures. The Geeta, however, mentions that God created the caste system (Varnas) according to an individual's ability to perform a job satisfactorily. It is like a strong man being asked to carry a heavy bundle and a person
[Assam] A Russian 'Bear Hug' awaits the Indian federation on Assam situation?
Indian ethics suspected in killing 22 and burning down 350 homes http://newsfromrussia.com/hotspots/2005/10/10/64888.html19:42 2005-10-10Rival ethnic militias are suspected of shooting and hacking to death 22 people and burning down 350 homes in India's remote northeast since violence erupted in the region over the weekend, police said Monday. About 5,000 people have fled the violence in Assam state's Bagmari region, taking refuge in government-run camps, said D.D. Tripathi, a Bagmari civil administration official. The army rushed to the area to try to prevent further attacks, he said. The violence began early Saturday when nearly 150 assailants opened fire on sleeping villagers from the Karbi tribe in Assam state's Bagmari region, killing eight people in an attack blamed on Dimasa tribe members. On Sunday, a second wave of assaults killed nine Karbi tribe members, and 200 homes were torched in a cluster of about a dozen hamlets, Tripathi said. He said the killers wore green uniforms, and were suspected to be Dimasa tribesmen. In a retaliatory attack Monday, a Karbi mob armed with machetes and guns rampaged through the Dimasi-dominated village of Kheroni, killing five people and setting about 150 houses ablaze, a police officer said on customary condition of in Diphu, the district headquarters. Bagmari is 300 kilometers (190 miles) south of Assam's capital, Gauhati. The Karbi and Dimasa tribes have been engaged in a long-standing feud. The two are among dozens of ethnic groups battling for control of territory in the jungles and villages of India's remote northeastern states. The groups are also separately fighting India's federal government, seeking independence or greater political autonomy. Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messenger Download today it's FREE! ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Assam should volunteer to have the GM Mosquitoes releasedthere, NOW.
GM could be dangerous in totally unexpected areas. Extensive trials in closed zones like in an isolated island is needed. Not many people die in Assam due to Malaria per say million people. Either do an intense survey by dedicated experts or else watch and wait for world reaction. mm From: "Bartta Bistar" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: assam@assamnet.orgSubject: [Assam] Assam should volunteer to have the GM Mosquitoes releasedthere, NOW.Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 11:56:16 + mosquitoes to fight malaria http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/holnus/001200510110311.htmLondon, Oct. 11. (Guardian News Service): Genetically modified (GM) mosquitoes could soon be released into the wild in an attempt to combat malaria. Scientists at Imperial College London, who created the GM insects, say they could wipe out natural mosquito populations and save thousands of lives in malaria-stricken regions. Led by Andrea Crisanti, the team added a gene that makes the testicles of the male mosquitoes fluorescent, allowing the scientists to distinguish and easily separate them from females. The plan is to breed, sterilise and release millions of these male insects so they mate with wild females but produce no offspring, eradicating insects in the target region within weeks. Professor Crisanti said, "our mosquitoes are nearly ready for testing in the wild. This is a technology that works and could make a real difference. The beauty is that it's very specific. Unlike insecticides, sterile males target only the species you want to attack." Mosquitoes that spread malaria have long been a target for sterile male technology, which has been used to eradicate the screwworm fly from the US, Mexico and Central America. The International Atomic Energy Agency has been using its radiation technology to support health projects, and wants to release sterile mosquitoes to tackle malaria in northern Sudan and on Reunion island in the Indian ocean - but they and other groups have been hampered by an inability to distinguish the males, which do not bite people. Female mosquitoes transmit malaria, even if sterile, so releasing them alongside males would make the situation worse. Prof Crisanti said: "The really challenging problem is to identify the males. There is no difference between the larvae and as adults they fly, so the logistics of trying to separate them when they're adults is immense." To solve the problem, his team altered the DNA of the mosquito species Anopheles stephensi, the principal carrier of malaria in Asia, so that the males expressed a fluorescent green protein in their sperm. A sorting machine based on laser light separated male from female larvae, according to whether they glowed or not. Writing in Nature Biotechnology today, the scientists say the machine could sort 180,000 larvae in 10 hours. Prof Crisanti said other mosquito species could be modified in the same way, including Anopheles gambiae, which is responsible for a large part of the 2.7m deaths caused by malaria each year. He is talking to international agencies about setting up a trial. Scientists have previously considered releasing both male and female mosquitoes that have been genetically modified in a different way, making them unable to transmit malaria. Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messenger Download today it's FREE! ___assam mailing listassam@assamnet.orghttp://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Late: Padma Kanta Dutta: Founder of Sankar Jayanti atUK in 1983
It is utter failure on the part ofAssamese people including all of us to propagate his I am sure you meant" --not to have propagated his --" Dr. Hiren Gohain did his British Ph. D. on this subject. He ought to revisit the scene and do nalast good job of it in popular eassays for school textbooks. Late Syed Abdul Malik wrote his " Dhanya Nara Tanu Bhalo " --a prosaic period play-but not an explicit praise for generations to remember. Islam discourages Hero-Worshipping and even statues/stone -cutting on mountain sides. Does Buddhism too?.Hindus cremate- leave no headstone. Should Assam also concentrate on present and future only and wipe out mouthfuls like" Lokapriya Bharat Ratna( after 50 years ) Gopinath Bordoloi International Airport"? mm From:mayur bora [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:Rini Kakati [EMAIL PROTECTED], assam@assamnet.orgSubject:Re: [Assam] Late: Padma Kanta Dutta: Founder of Sankar Jayanti atUK in 1983Date:Tue, 11 Oct 2005 03:48:45 -0700 (PDT)Dear Rini BaidewExtremely well said about Mahapurush SrimantaSankaradeva. I can not agree with you more speciallyabout the last line that no genius in the world hasbeen so versatile. It is utter failure on the part ofAssamese people including all of us to propagate hisphilosophy to unite all the original inhabitants ofthe state irrespective of our caste, creed, communitytribe etc.MayurChandigarh--- Rini Kakati [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:-In the wake of 557th birth anniversary of MahapurusaSankaradeva, it remind me of late: Padma Kanta Dutta(my jethu) the founder of Sankar Jayanti celebrationat London, who came to visit me in August, 1983. Hewas the President of Kumar gaon Sankar Mandir atTezpur and a devout Vaisnavite. He served all his lifefor Sankar Sangha. During his stay he was verypersistent to celebrate Sankar Jayanti Mahotsav inLondon. Another well-known and a pious lady, late:Subhadra Kakati from Sualkuchi, (Dr. Dinesh Kakati'smother) was also in London at the same time. She wasdelighted with the idea of starting a Sankar Sangha atLondon and joined in. Late: Khageshsar Saikia, thesecretary of Kumar gaon, Sankar Mandir at Tezpur wasalso visiting his daughter in Manchester at the sametime. What a coincidence ! . I saw it as a Gurublessing in disguise. With Jethu's inspiration andguidance, I was able to organise 535th birthanniversary of Srimanta Sankaradeva at TavistockCommunity Hall in Harlesden for the first time withthe help of Assamese community in London. Although theidea was initially started by me, apparently it becamea joint process of everybody that we are able topraise our Guru and celebrate Sankar Jayanti everyyear in London.With my head bowed in reverence, I pray to these greatthree people and thank them for leading us to the pathof our Guru Mahapurusa Sankaradeva.Because " The history of the Assamese people, thehistory of its national awareness is the life ofSankaradeva -- he is the pulse of the people". In thelast 555th years none of Sankaradeva's stature hasbeen born in Assam. Many religious preachers in thisperiod undoubtedly equals of Sankardeva was their, butnone combine like Sankaradeva. He was the poet, thephilosopher, the musician, the dramatist, the actorand the producer, the composer of dances, the painter,the much travelled social reformer and the founder ofthe Vaisnavite faith in one. No genius in the worldhas been so versatile.Rini KakatiYou can view the photo by attachment or below. Fromthe left, Late: Padma Kanta Dutta, founder of SankarJayanti at UK along with his friend Late: KhageshsarSaikia in 1983-Fed up with spam in your inbox?Find out how to dealwith junk e-mail here! ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org __Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005http://mail.yahoo.com___assam mailing listassam@assamnet.orghttp://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Late: Padma Kanta Dutta: Founder of Sankar Jayanti atUK in 1983
Title: Re: [Assam] Late: Padma Kanta Dutta: Founder of Sankar Jay The problems is that our desi- culture accepts homage paying to the reformers and doers as substitute for action. If we can sing the praises, louder the better, we have done our part. Rituals substituting for the real thing, in every facet of life. No wonder how society is left mired in the past, stuck in the mud, unable to dig out and move forward in spite of the enormous human potential. He ought to revisit the scene and do nalast good job of it in popular eassays for school textbooks. Late Syed Abdul Malik wrote his Dhanya Nara Tanu Bhalo --a prosaic period play-but not an explicit praise for generations to remember. *** Too cryptic--didn't get either of the above.. At 7:55 PM +0530 10/11/05, mc mahant wrote: It is utter failure on the part of Assamese people including all of us to propagate his I am sure you meant --not to have propagated his -- Dr. Hiren Gohain did his British Ph. D. on this subject. He ought to revisit the scene and do nalast good job of it in popular eassays for school textbooks. Late Syed Abdul Malik wrote his Dhanya Nara Tanu Bhalo --a prosaic period play-but not an explicit praise for generations to remember. Islam discourages Hero-Worshipping and even statues/stone -cutting on mountain sides. Does Buddhism too?.Hindus cremate- leave no headstone. Should Assam also concentrate on present and future only and wipe out mouthfuls like Lokapriya Bharat Ratna( after 50 years ) Gopinath Bordoloi International Airport? mm From:mayur bora [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:Rini Kakati [EMAIL PROTECTED], assam@assamnet.org Subject:Re: [Assam] Late: Padma Kanta Dutta: Founder of Sankar Jayanti atUK in 1983 Date:Tue, 11 Oct 2005 03:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Dear Rini Baidew Extremely well said about Mahapurush Srimanta Sankaradeva. I can not agree with you more specially about the last line that no genius in the world has been so versatile. It is utter failure on the part of Assamese people including all of us to propagate his philosophy to unite all the original inhabitants of the state irrespective of our caste, creed, community tribe etc. Mayur Chandigarh --- Rini Kakati [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - In the wake of 557th birth anniversary of Mahapurusa Sankaradeva, it remind me of late: Padma Kanta Dutta (my jethu) the founder of Sankar Jayanti celebration at London, who came to visit me in August, 1983. He was the President of Kumar gaon Sankar Mandir at Tezpur and a devout Vaisnavite. He served all his life for Sankar Sangha. During his stay he was very persistent to celebrate Sankar Jayanti Mahotsav in London. Another well-known and a pious lady, late: Subhadra Kakati from Sualkuchi, (Dr. Dinesh Kakati's mother) was also in London at the same time. She was delighted with the idea of starting a Sankar Sangha at London and joined in. Late: Khageshsar Saikia, the secretary of Kumar gaon, Sankar Mandir at Tezpur was also visiting his daughter in Manchester at the same time. What a coincidence ! . I saw it as a Guru blessing in disguise. With Jethu's inspiration and guidance, I was able to organise 535th birth anniversary of Srimanta Sankaradeva at Tavistock Community Hall in Harlesden for the first time with the help of Assamese community in London. Although the idea was initially started by me, apparently it became a joint process of everybody that we are able to praise our Guru and celebrate Sankar Jayanti every year in London. With my head bowed in reverence, I pray to these great three people and thank them for leading us to the path of our Guru Mahapurusa Sankaradeva. Because The history of the Assamese people, the history of its national awareness is the life of Sankaradeva -- he is the pulse of the people. In the last 555th years none of Sankaradeva's stature has been born in Assam. Many religious preachers in this period undoubtedly equals of Sankardeva was their, but none combine like Sankaradeva. He was the poet, the philosopher, the musician, the dramatist, the actor and the producer, the composer of dances, the painter, the much travelled social reformer and the founder of the Vaisnavite faith in one. No genius in the world has been so versatile. Rini Kakati You can view the photo by attachment or below. From the left, Late: Padma Kanta Dutta, founder of Sankar Jayanti at UK along with his friend Late: Khageshsar Saikia in 1983 - Fed up with spam in your inbox?Find out how to deal with junk e-mail here! ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Wrong interpretation
Bhuban: I wrote back, he admitted that it was a mistake and gave me the correct reference. - this is a diplomatic way to say that Umesh does not know much and he is here to learn just like some other Assamese :) There is no difference between you and me. - why did you say so? I am not in a position to argue whether varna means the same thing as caste. - you don't have to argue my friend but you would need to open the dictionary/scripture and look for the varna usages (some of the usages are listed below). You may feel free to begin an academic argument. - are you saying so fearing some will argue exhibiting nonacademic behaviour? If so that is good observation! Thank you! I have already noticed ONE ASSamese :) Very well Bhuban, sometimes the words get mispronounced - sometimes the words may also mapped into completely different meanings. The word nun is a unique example. North India and some parts of Assam nun equals salt (NaCl) but in some parts of Assam it appears that they do not get the taste of salt for nun :) Anyway Bhuban, you may consider taking the following list of varna usages in Sanskrit to an academician if you go arguing - this may help. Bidyut Some usages of varna in Sanskrit: SB = Srimad Bhagavad (Geeta is a substance of Srimad Bhagavad) varna - colors varna-sankarah - unwanted population varna-asrama - the system of eight social orders; SB 4.14.18 varna - of the principles of the four occupational orders of society; SB 10.74.35 tri-varna - consisting of three modes (goodness, passion and ignorance); SB 11.3.16 varna - having complexions varna-asrama - the Vedic system of social and occupational divisions; SB 11.10.1 pita-varǹ£a - the color yellow krisna-varna - blackish color tara varna - Her bodily complexion bhava-varna - the luster of transcendental ecstasy citra-varna - printed with varieties of colors varna-matra - only the color gaura-varna - having a golden or fair complexion syamala-varna - having a blackish complexion syama-varna - of blackish hue rakta-varna dhari' - assuming a reddish color pita-varna dhari' - assuming the color yellow pita-varna - yellowish color cari varna-asrami - followers of the four social and spiritual orders of life; CC Madhya 22.26 varna-dvayi - the two syllables; CC Antya 1.99 varna-dvayi - the two syllables; CC Antya 1.120 pita-varna ha-ila - became yellowish varna - bodily complexion; CC Antya 15.64 On 10/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bidyut You have obviously become uncharitable to Umesh. Umesh stated in this very net that his father was engaged in fighting against casteism in India on the basis of support from religious text. He then mentioned the verse and chapter from the Geeta.I checked and found it wrong. I wrote back, he admitted that it was a mistake and gave me the correct reference. Now, I am not in a position to argue whether varna means the same thing as caste. You may feel free to begin an academic argument. I take your point. But would not this amount to an unfruitful pursuit? Bhuban On 10/10/05, Bidyut Kakati [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To my observation, Umesh is not knowledgeable on Vedic scriptures, he is like other Assamese that is why he is here :) Varna was not equal to Caste during Vedic age Krishna said in Geeta one gets Varnas according to his/her individual suitability to provide a particular service - this is true (not caste by birth). For example Parashar, Byash and Viswamitra did not have Brahmin parents (Manusamhita talks how they become Brahman). Similarly, Parasuram was not born to Kshyatriya parents. There are differences between Bhuban and me (I do not work in the same discipline like he does meaning I have a different Varna) Bidyut On 10/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/10/2005 21:57:51 GMT Daylight Time, BBaruah writes: Bidyut There is no difference between you and me. What I said wason the basis of the Geeta. There Krishna said that he created the Varnas according to an individual's suitability to provide a particular service. I do not have a copy of the Geeta with me now. I myself didn't know about it; Umesh sent it to me on request.Umesh, I am sure, will oblige if requested. The cases cited prove the point. Of course the original idea misfired at the end. BhubanOn 10/9/05, Bidyut Kakati [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bhubon and Maiki: What Geeta talks is not same as Caste today, because caste today is by birth. Geeta did not talk of by birth but by virtue. For example Parashar, Byash and Viswamitra did not have Brahmin parents (Manusamhita talks how they become Brahman). Similarly, Parasuram was not born to Kshyatriya parents. So it was a wrong interpretation to say God created the caste system - if you compare with today's cast system. My two cents :) On 10/9/05, mc mahant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bhubon Kakaideo, YOU REPLY AS A
Re: [Assam] Wrong interpretation
Title: Re: [Assam] Wrong interpretation -- he is here to learn just like some other Assamese :) Anything wrong with that? And what is YOUR excuse being here? There is no difference between you and me. - why did you say so? That, however, I must say, that Bhuban Kokaideu made a big mistake on. But I think he was only being charitable. scripture and look for the varna usages (some of the usages are listed below). Well, that says a lot, doesn't it? Could have posted the whole dictionary. Would have added weight to the arguments, if not the stupidity. --- - are you saying so fearing some will argue exhibiting nonacademic behaviour? Wow! That was heavy. What an argument! What a demonstration of intellectual acuity here! ---Very well Bhuban, sometimes the words get mispronounced - sometimes the words may also mapped into completely different meanings. Ain't that the truth? Actually we saw a fine example here from a great self-impressed linguist right here in Assam Net once, where the geniass I mean genius wannabe, interpreted the Oxomiya word onibaaxi as 'deceased' ( for those who are wondering, it went like this: 'onibaaxi' -- 'not living'--- thus 'deceased'). Something tells me that we have here a graduate of the same school of 'adhakhunda' lingustics, if not the same genius wannabe in a different 'avatar'. cm At 1:15 PM -0700 10/11/05, Bidyut Kakati wrote: Bhuban: I wrote back, he admitted that it was a mistake and gave me the correct reference. - this is a diplomatic way to say that Umesh does not know much and he is here to learn just like some other Assamese :) There is no difference between you and me. - why did you say so? I am not in a position to argue whether varna means the same thing as caste. - you don't have to argue my friend but you would need to open the dictionary/scripture and look for the varna usages (some of the usages are listed below). You may feel free to begin an academic argument. - are you saying so fearing some will argue exhibiting nonacademic behaviour? If so that is good observation! Thank you! I have already noticed ONE ASSamese :) Very well Bhuban, sometimes the words get mispronounced - sometimes the words may also mapped into completely different meanings. The word nun is a unique example. North India and some parts of Assam nun equals salt (NaCl) but in some parts of Assam it appears that they do not get the taste of salt for nun :) Anyway Bhuban, you may consider taking the following list of varna usages in Sanskrit to an academician if you go arguing - this may help. Bidyut Some usages of varna in Sanskrit: SB = Srimad Bhagavad (Geeta is a substance of Srimad Bhagavad) varna - colors varna-sankarah - unwanted population varna-asrama - the system of eight social orders; SB 4.14.18 varna - of the principles of the four occupational orders of society; SB 10.74.35 tri-varna - consisting of three modes (goodness, passion and ignorance); SB 11.3.16 varna - having complexions varna-asrama - the Vedic system of social and occupational divisions; SB 11.10.1 pita-varn?a - the color yellow krisna-varna - blackish color tara varna - Her bodily complexion bhava-varna - the luster of transcendental ecstasy citra-varna - printed with varieties of colors varna-matra - only the color gaura-varna - having a golden or fair complexion syamala-varna - having a blackish complexion syama-varna - of blackish hue rakta-varna dhari' - assuming a reddish color pita-varna dhari' - assuming the color yellow pita-varna - yellowish color cari varna-asrami - followers of the four social and spiritual orders of life; CC Madhya 22.26 varna-dvayi - the two syllables; CC Antya 1.99 varna-dvayi - the two syllables; CC Antya 1.120 pita-varna ha-ila - became yellowish varna - bodily complexion; CC Antya 15.64 On 10/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bidyut You have obviously become uncharitable to Umesh. Umesh stated in this very net that his father was engaged in fighting against casteism in India on the basis of support from religious text. He then mentioned the verse and chapter from the Geeta.I checked and found it wrong. I wrote back, he admitted that it was a mistake and gave me the correct reference. Now, I am not in a position to argue whether varna means the same thing as caste. You may feel free to begin an academic argument. I take your point. But would not this amount to an unfruitful pursuit? Bhuban On 10/10/05, Bidyut Kakati [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To my observation, Umesh is not knowledgeable on Vedic scriptures, he is like other Assamese that is why he is here :) Varna was not equal to Caste during Vedic age Krishna said in Geeta one gets Varnas according to his/her individual suitability to provide a particular service - this is true (not caste by birth). For example Parashar, Byash and Viswamitra did not have Brahmin parents (Manusamhita talks how they become Brahman). Similarly, Parasuram was
Re: [Assam] Fwd: Pictures from last Saturday
Dear Dil Dilip-da: Thanks for forwarding the pictures again - at least the ones interested in could view them. Rana Gogoi did a splendid job on holding the whole occasion in a perfect order, step by step - this is going to be a huge part ofour treasure now. If I, myself, was not the unfortunate person here, it would have beenbeyond my imagination - how one can view (and talk about)her own child's funeral, surprisingly it has proved otherwise. It has been somewhat soothing -we realizethat is the reality - these are the things that we will have to live with from now on. Our son will always be the usual witty, straight-forward, patrioticand vibrant young man living within us until we see him again. It is just that as normal human beings, we feel that God could have taken him 70+ years later, and that is, after us. But I have convinced myself that he is in a better place now, he is withGod,from where he can see us any time, and I already feel that all the time now - heis helping me to take decisions. Once again, Ramgopal and I offer our heartfelt appreciation to all of you, from all over the world,for being with us - in person and in your thoughts and prayers-throughphone calls,notes, cardsandemails, and thus showing Nitin so much of love, careand affection. Thank you again. - Mala and Ramgopal (Alpana Ram Sarangapani) Houston, Texas. USA. From: Dilip/Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: ASSAMNET assam@assamnet.orgSubject: [Assam] Fwd: Pictures from last SaturdayDate: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 13:13:44 -0700 (PDT) Note: forwarded message attached. From: Rana Gogoi [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Pictures from last SaturdayDate: 07 Oct 2005 19:02:46 -0700Pictures from last SaturdayDear Raiz,These pictures are from last Saturday. Because of the occasion I tried to keep as many pictures as possible.Rana Gogoihttp://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rgogoi4/album?.dir=/34bd.src=""> ___assam mailing listassam@assamnet.orghttp://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Fwd: Pictures from last Saturday
Title: Re: [Assam] Fwd: Pictures from last Saturday Hi Alpana: Good to hear from both you and Ram. I agree, the pictures are beautiful. Rana did a splendid job. I am sure Mano Hazarika's videos have come out well too. Looking forward to having both of you back in the net soon. Best to you. c-da At 4:57 PM -0500 10/11/05, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote: Dear Dil Dilip-da: Thanks for forwarding the pictures again - at least the ones interested in could view them. Rana Gogoi did a splendid job on holding the whole occasion in a perfect order, step by step - this is going to be a huge part ofour treasure now. If I, myself, was not the unfortunate person here, it would have beenbeyond my imagination - how one can view (and talk about)her own child's funeral, surprisingly it has proved otherwise. It has been somewhat soothing -we realizethat is the reality - these are the things that we will have to live with from now on. Our son will always be the usual witty, straight-forward, patrioticand vibrant young man living within us until we see him again. It is just that as normal human beings, we feel that God could have taken him 70+ years later, and that is, after us. But I have convinced myself that he is in a better place now, he is withGod,from where he can see us any time, and I already feel that all the time now - heis helping me to take decisions. Once again, Ramgopal and I offer our heartfelt appreciation to all of you, from all over the world,for being with us - in person and in your thoughts and prayers-throughphone calls,notes, cardsandemails, and thus showing Nitin so much of love, careand affection. Thank you again. - Mala and Ramgopal (Alpana Ram Sarangapani) Houston, Texas. USA. From: Dilip/Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ASSAMNET assam@assamnet.org Subject: [Assam] Fwd: Pictures from last Saturday Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 13:13:44 -0700 (PDT) Note: forwarded message attached. From: Rana Gogoi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pictures from last Saturday Date: 07 Oct 2005 19:02:46 -0700 Pictures from last Saturday Dear Raiz, These pictures are from last Saturday. Because of the occasion I tried to keep as many pictures as possible. Rana Gogoi http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rgogoi4/album?.dir=/34bd.src="" >h.tok=phF_cvDBf8rWbNet ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Fwd: Pictures from last Saturday
I know how the Sarangapanis feel. Let them be strong. They already display THAT. RIP mm From: Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "Alpana B. Sarangapani" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], assam@assamnet.orgSubject: Re: [Assam] Fwd: Pictures from last SaturdayDate: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:02:40 -0500 Hi Alpana: Good to hear from both you and Ram. I agree, the pictures are beautiful. Rana did a splendid job. I am sure Mano Hazarika's videos have come out well too. Looking forward to having both of you back in the net soon. Best to you. c-da At 4:57 PM -0500 10/11/05, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote: Dear Dil Dilip-da: Thanks for forwarding the pictures again - at least the ones interested in could view them. Rana Gogoi did a splendid job on holding the whole occasion in a perfect order, step by step - this is going to be a huge part ofour treasure now. If I, myself, was not the unfortunate person here, it would have beenbeyond my imagination - how one can view (and talk about)her own child's funeral, surprisingly it has proved otherwise. It has been somewhat soothing -we realizethat is the reality - these are the things that we will have to live with from now on. Our son will always be the usual witty, straight-forward, patrioticand vibrant young man living within us until we see him again. It is just that as normal human beings, we feel that God could have taken him 70+ years later, and that is, after us. But I have convinced myself that he is in a better place now, he is withGod,from where he can see us any time, and I already feel that all the time now - heis helping me to take decisions. Once again, Ramgopal and I offer our heartfelt appreciation to all of you, from all over the world,for being with us - in person and in your thoughts and prayers-throughphone calls,notes, cardsandemails, and thus showing Nitin so much of love, careand affection. Thank you again. - Mala and Ramgopal (Alpana Ram Sarangapani) Houston, Texas. USA. From: Dilip/Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: ASSAMNET assam@assamnet.orgSubject: [Assam] Fwd: Pictures from last SaturdayDate: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 13:13:44 -0700 (PDT) Note: forwarded message attached. From: Rana Gogoi [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Pictures from last SaturdayDate: 07 Oct 2005 19:02:46 -0700Pictures from last SaturdayDear Raiz,These pictures are from last Saturday. Because of the occasion I tried to keep as many pictures as possible.Rana Gogoihttp://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rgogoi4/album?.dir=/34bd.src="">h.tok=phF_cvDBf8rWbNet ___assam mailing listassam@assamnet.orghttp://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___assam mailing listassam@assamnet.orghttp://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___assam mailing listassam@assamnet.orghttp://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Article from New York Times 10/11/2005 China world exports tea
Assam has the Sun ,Rain, Temp, Devoted Acerage, manpower, established brand name.. We need Agro techniques, Processing Technology,Packaging, Psychological Marketing Strategy ,The Oxomiya Toka, Direct World Trade ,And Delivery to major consumer population Centers in days- direct from garden-(not months). Situation can be made very different. Think, all netters mm From: "Kalita, Jukti (GPC.Marketing.Princeton)" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: assam@assamnet.orgSubject: [Assam] Article from New York Times 10/11/2005 on how China hascaptured the world exports market for teaDate: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 11:42:54 -0400 China has been bulldozing hillsides in central and south China at a rapid pace to make way for tea gardens and already exports a lot more tea than India does. New York Times October 11, 2005 Read the Tea Leaves: China Will Be Top Exporter By KEITH BRADSHER JINHUA, China - All the tea in China is proving to be a lot of tea these days, as hillsides across central and southern China are bulldozed to make way for tea farms even as many young Chinese are losing interest in the beverage. China still has millions of tea lovers who lavish the same attention on their beverage that oenophiles devote to wine. The finest grades of green tea, made from the most delicate baby leaves and roasted in a pan by hand, sell for hundreds of dollars a pound in Shanghai and Beijing. But Coca-Cola, Pepsi, McDonald's, KFC and other Western businesses have come up with many other ways to slake thirsts in China, especially that of young Chinese. Shifting tides in tastes are creating waves over winners and losers both at home and abroad. Teahouses in China already are being replaced by coffeehouses, and Starbucks, with more than 140 stores, has spawned a cottage industry of copycats. With tea in abundance in China, more and more is being shipped abroad, by third-generation tea farmers like Pan Jintu, who wants to supply green tea to Starbucks stores in the United States. "Many people love tea now, so I foresee our business will grow," he said, standing amid his rows of tea bushes, as women in broad hats plucked tea leaves in the surrounding hillsides here. But expanding sales by Chinese tea growers like Mr. Pan are causing alarm in other developing countries that depend on growing tea, like India, Sri Lanka, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Kenya, Malawi and Zimbabwe. While the growth of China's textile industry with the end of global textile quotas has attracted more attention as a threat to poor countries, China's tea industry also poses a challenge to some of the world's poorest nations. China is now poised to become the world's largest tea exporter by tonnage, overtaking Sri Lanka this year and Kenya next year. Wide swaths of people across Asia depend on the tea industry for survival. Particularly vulnerable are countries that suffered from the tsunami last December: Indonesia, India and above all Sri Lanka, where income from the growing, processing and transport of tea helps feed nearly a tenth of the people, according to the Asian Development Bank. Yet China's re-emergence as the world's leading tea exporter invokes a centuries-old pattern: the British East India Company, which bought its tea from China, held a monopoly on supplying Britain until 1834. Only when that monopoly was broken did other countries become big exporters. The saying "I wouldn't do that for all the tea in China" came to mean a refusal to do something even for a large and valuable payment. The history of tea itself reaches back to ancient times in China. The earliest known literary references date back nearly 5,000 years, when Emperor Shen Nung is said to have discovered the infusion when leaves dropped into his hot water by chance. Green tea is widely believed to have some medical benefits. Black tea, which may have similar benefits, is used in everything from Darjeeling to Earl Grey and is made from the leaves of the same tea plants as green tea, though processed differently. But after millennia of popularity, tea consumption in China is growing by only 2 percent a year, according to the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization in Rome. By contrast, Chinese figures show tea production rising 8.7 percent last year and rapidly accelerating as recently planted tea bushes reach maturity and as inefficiently managed, state-owned farms are turned over to output-conscious entrepreneurs. For the last three years, Beijing has set as its top goal the alleviation of rural poverty and high income inequality between coastal cities and rural areas, to the benefit of the tea industry. Municipal and provincial governments now vie to offer subsidies to an industry seen as an answer to lingering poverty and unemployment in the countryside, and are paying up to half the cost for the planting of new tea farms and the building of tea-processing factories. Beijing has also eliminated an 8 percent tax on tea production as a way to increase rural incomes. Tea promotion
Re: [Assam] Fwd: Pictures from last Saturday
Mala and Ramgopal, It makes us feel good that Mala is together enough to write the email. Any time you guys need support, just call us. We are here for you, right in Houston. I am sure the other families in Houston and the members ofAssamnet share my feelings. Dilipda"Alpana B. Sarangapani" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Dil Dilip-da: Thanks for forwarding the pictures again - at least the ones interested in could view them. Rana Gogoi did a splendid job on holding the whole occasion in a perfect order, step by step - this is going to be a huge part ofour treasure now. If I, myself, was not the unfortunate person here, it would have beenbeyond my imagination - how one can view (and talk about)her own child's funeral, surprisingly it has proved otherwise. It has been somewhat soothing -we realizethat is the reality - these are the things that we will have to live with from now on. Our son will always be the usual witty, straight-forward, patrioticand vibrant young man living within us until we see him again. It is just that as normal human beings, we feel that God could have taken him 70+ years later, and that is, after us. But I have convinced myself that he is in a better place now, he is withGod,from where he can see us any time, and I already feel that all the time now - heis helping me to take decisions. Once again, Ramgopal and I offer our heartfelt appreciation to all of you, from all over the world,for being with us - in person and in your thoughts and prayers-throughphone calls,notes, cardsandemails, and thus showing Nitin so much of love, careand affection. Thank you again. - Mala and Ramgopal (Alpana Ram Sarangapani) Houston, Texas. USA. From: Dilip/Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: ASSAMNET assam@assamnet.orgSubject: [Assam] Fwd: Pictures from last SaturdayDate: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 13:13:44 -0700 (PDT) Note: forwarded message attached. From: Rana Gogoi [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Pictures from last SaturdayDate: 07 Oct 2005 19:02:46 -0700Pictures from last SaturdayDear Raiz,These pictures are from last Saturday. Because of the occasion I tried to keep as many pictures as possible.Rana Gogoihttp://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rgogoi4/album?.dir=/34bd.src=""> ___assam mailing listassam@assamnet.orghttp://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___assam mailing listassam@assamnet.orghttp://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Article from New York Times 10/11/2005 China world exports tea
Mukulda, Please visit Twinings - Tea Production The tea producing and manufacturing process, the importance of the tea plant, growing, plucking, different manufacturing processes, sorting and packing, ...www.twinings.com/en_int/tea_production/tea_prod.html Which part of tea production in Assam needs processing technology? Machinery itself, or temperature and moisture control? I was under the impression that Indian machinery industry had advanced enough to handle the needs. Dilip mc mahant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Assam has the Sun ,Rain, Temp, Devoted Acerage, manpower, established brand name.. We need Agro techniques, Processing Technology,Packaging, Psychological Marketing Strategy ,The Oxomiya Toka, Direct World Trade ,And Delivery to major consumer population Centers in days- direct from garden-(not months). Situation can be made very different. Think, all netters mm From: "Kalita, Jukti (GPC.Marketing.Princeton)" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: assam@assamnet.orgSubject: [Assam] Article from New York Times 10/11/2005 on how China hascaptured the world exports market for teaDate: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 11:42:54 -0400 China has been bulldozing hillsides in central and south China at a rapid pace to make way for tea gardens and already exports a lot more tea than India does. New York Times October 11, 2005 Read the Tea Leaves: China Will Be Top Exporter By KEITH BRADSHER JINHUA, China - All the tea in China is proving to be a lot of tea these days, as hillsides across central and southern China are bulldozed to make way for tea farms even as many young Chinese are losing interest in the beverage. China still has millions of tea lovers who lavish the same attention on their beverage that oenophiles devote to wine. The finest grades of green tea, made from the most delicate baby leaves and roasted in a pan by hand, sell for hundreds of dollars a pound in Shanghai and Beijing. But Coca-Cola, Pepsi, McDonald's, KFC and other Western businesses have come up with many other ways to slake thirsts in China, especially that of young Chinese. Shifting tides in tastes are creating waves over winners and losers both at home and abroad. Teahouses in China already are being replaced by coffeehouses, and Starbucks, with more than 140 stores, has spawned a cottage industry of copycats. With tea in abundance in China, more and more is being shipped abroad, by third-generation tea farmers like Pan Jintu, who wants to supply green tea to Starbucks stores in the United States. "Many people love tea now, so I foresee our business will grow," he said, standing amid his rows of tea bushes, as women in broad hats plucked tea leaves in the surrounding hillsides here. But expanding sales by Chinese tea growers like Mr. Pan are causing alarm in other developing countries that depend on growing tea, like India, Sri Lanka, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Kenya, Malawi and Zimbabwe. While the growth of China's textile industry with the end of global textile quotas has attracted more attention as a threat to poor countries, China's tea industry also poses a challenge to some of the world's poorest nations. China is now poised to become the world's largest tea exporter by tonnage, overtaking Sri Lanka this year and Kenya next year. Wide swaths of people across Asia depend on the tea industry for survival. Particularly vulnerable are countries that suffered from the tsunami last December: Indonesia, India and above all Sri Lanka, where income from the growing, processing and transport of tea helps feed nearly a tenth of the people, according to the Asian Development Bank. Yet China's re-emergence as the world's leading tea exporter invokes a centuries-old pattern: the British East India Company, which bought its tea from China, held a monopoly on supplying Britain until 1834. Only when that monopoly was broken did other countries become big exporters. The saying "I wouldn't do that for all the tea in China" came to mean a refusal to do something even for a large and valuable payment. The history of tea itself reaches back to ancient times in China. The earliest known literary references date back nearly 5,000 years, when Emperor Shen Nung is said to have discovered the infusion when leaves dropped into his hot water by chance. Green tea is widely believed to have some medical benefits. Black tea, which may have similar benefits, is used in everything from Darjeeling to Earl Grey and is made from the leaves of the same tea plants as green tea, though processed differently. But after millennia of popularity, tea consumption in China is growing by only 2 percent a year, according to the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization in Rome. By contrast, Chinese figures show tea production rising 8.7 percent last year and rapidly accelerating as recently planted tea bushes reach maturity and as inefficiently managed, state-owned farms are turned over to output-conscious entrepreneurs. For the last three years, Beijing has set as its
Re: [Assam] Fwd: Pictures from last Saturday
Thanks C'da. Our hope is that we get back to some sense of normalcy by being occupied, writing mails and getting involved in Nitin's trust fund. Yes, Mano da Bina (Hazarika)worked very hard all day that day and made a DVDof the whole ceremony - clear pictures and all,asit is made by a pro. Raja (Deka)and Hazarika too, blew up Nitin's pictures - baby and the latest ones that brought tears to the eyes of manythat never had met Nitin before, framed them in beautiful collages and made the whole presentation a memorable one. TheHouston community was just terrific - extremely supportive, as usual, together when trauma hits a family. As a community, they aretogetherin happiness and sorrow, no matter what. Parul Baideu Bhindeu (Hazarika), Usha Hiren da (Sharma) Jeena Rabin da (Mahantas), Hazarikas, Kamal Zina Deka,Rupa and Ashok (Baruahs),Lohit da ManjuDutta-Barua, Bhuyans, Borthakurs, Goswamis, the Das', theTalukdars and everybodyprovided us withtremendous moral support for which we have been able to hang in there. I apologize if I forgot to mention anybody's name here. But in our minds, we remember you all for what you did. It was just that onlyNitin was not awake. But I felt like Nitin was smiling (and giggling as healways does when he is very happy)and telling me: 'Look Mom,everybody is doing so much for me! they adore me just like you and my daddoes.Just be sure to thank each andeveryone for me.'So, here I am thanking everyone from the bottom of my heart. Mukul-da, thank you forall your notes - we've been reading them andfinding a great deal of solace thru all the mails from all of you. We've saved the mails and will try tosend personal notes to all of you. However, your presence all the way from St. Louis, and that of Jugal's from Colorado and Tafuzul Haque's from Ohio and many others from every corner of Houston, Austin and Dallas also gave us tremendous solace and support at this lowest point in our lives. Your collective presence gives us that courage and fortitude to forge ahead inspite of this tradegy. With regards, - Alpana From: Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "Alpana B. Sarangapani" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], assam@assamnet.orgSubject: Re: [Assam] Fwd: Pictures from last SaturdayDate: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:02:40 -0500 Hi Alpana: Good to hear from both you and Ram. I agree, the pictures are beautiful. Rana did a splendid job. I am sure Mano Hazarika's videos have come out well too. Looking forward to having both of you back in the net soon. Best to you. c-da At 4:57 PM -0500 10/11/05, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote: Dear Dil Dilip-da: Thanks for forwarding the pictures again - at least the ones interested in could view them. Rana Gogoi did a splendid job on holding the whole occasion in a perfect order, step by step - this is going to be a huge part ofour treasure now. If I, myself, was not the unfortunate person here, it would have beenbeyond my imagination - how one can view (and talk about)her own child's funeral, surprisingly it has proved otherwise. It has been somewhat soothing -we realizethat is the reality - these are the things that we will have to live with from now on. Our son will always be the usual witty, straight-forward, patrioticand vibrant young man living within us until we see him again. It is just that as normal human beings, we feel that God could have taken him 70+ years later, and that is, after us. But I have convinced myself that he is in a better place now, he is withGod,from where he can see us any time, and I already feel that all the time now - heis helping me to take decisions. Once again, Ramgopal and I offer our heartfelt appreciation to all of you, from all over the world,for being with us - in person and in your thoughts and prayers-throughphone calls,notes, cardsandemails, and thus showing Nitin so much of love, careand affection. Thank you again. - Mala and Ramgopal (Alpana Ram Sarangapani) Houston, Texas. USA. From: Dilip/Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: ASSAMNET assam@assamnet.orgSubject: [Assam] Fwd: Pictures from last SaturdayDate: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 13:13:44 -0700 (PDT) Note: forwarded message attached. From: Rana Gogoi [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Pictures from last SaturdayDate: 07 Oct 2005 19:02:46 -0700Pictures from last SaturdayDear Raiz,These pictures are from last Saturday. Because of the occasion I tried to keep as many pictures as possible.Rana Gogoihttp://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rgogoi4/album?.dir=/34bd.src="">h.tok=phF_cvDBf8rWbNet ___assam mailing listassam@assamnet.orghttp://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___assam mailing listassam@assamnet.orghttp://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
