Re: [Assam] Fwd: [Assam Society] Mizo farmer's staple food will bebiodiesel

2005-10-10 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: RE: [Assam] Fwd: [Assam Society] Mizo farmer's
staple food


They all survive out of India's Peace
Dividend.


*** While it might be a cool way to live high on the hog on
Mother_India's handouts, it cannot last for ever. In the meantime,
what better way neutralize a restive population than to create
states that produce little, have few resources and thus
making them thoroughly dependent on 'mai-baap's largesse ?

Mono-culture is a great way to rob indigenous peoples' autonomy
by making them slaves to markets controlled by others. Imagine the day
when Jathropa oil suddenly becomes unattractive and its price
plummets? Like the tea that so many rural Assamese took to planting
with the big tea houses now paying little for it.







At 9:48 PM +0530 10/10/05, mc mahant wrote:
I visited Mizoram in 1984. Just one
Road and row of houses both sides. You could give a letter
addressed to any Mizoramian(no stamps needed)to any truck driver
heading uphill from Silchar--and you are sure it will be delivered
without fail at the correct doorstep.

That is the population density. They all
survive out of India's Peace Dividend. They do live
in style. Yet they produce nothing. The land gives nothing. Steep
slope. No plains, no water retention at all. Ginger grows. Grapes are
growing very well.But dilemma is that their own zealots have
banned all drinks-so no winemaking. Assam can consume all
thewine they can produce-but nobody teaches the Assamese
Wine Shopsthe difference between Beer, Rum ,whiskey and
Wine. So no customer demands Wine. So the fine Grape Crop goes
waste.

Did I see some Assam Netter wanting a
viable investment opportunity in Assam --well this one !

All -Jatrophain Mizoram may bring
in some cash for a while. But the people will have no food security
for themselves for along time. This is dangerous. I hope they won't be
so reckless.

mm





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Subject: [Assam] Fwd: [Assam Society] Mizo farmer's staple food
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Dear friends ,

Willany community survive if mono culture is
introduced and biodiversity is ruptured, where as market will be
controlled by others and local farming system which supports the
lively hood now will be replaced by JATROPHA,let usthink about
Mizoram's tribal community after five years .

Jatropha toxicity is well studied
around the world. The reference
literatures are full of information about its toxic effects. At the
website
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Jatropha_curcas.html#To
xicity.The website http://www.inchem.org/documents/pims/plant/jcurc.htm
scientific evidences of Jatropha
poisoning.

The senior natives of Chhattisgarh
are also aware of its harmful effects. They explain its effects in
simple words'Ek Beeja Se Pet Saf Hothe, Du Se Au, Teen Se Aspatal aur
Char Se Upar' (One seed clears the motion, two results in more, three
takes to hospital and four to God).


regards

ravi

Mizoram aims to become largest ‘Jatropha’
grower
AIZAWL, Oct 8 – Agriculture Minister H Rammawi has
expressed hope that Mizoram can be the largest Jatropha producing
state in the country.

“We will try to make Mizoram the largest Jatropha producing state in
India. This is possible with our climate which is perfect for the
oil-bearing plant and our large area of arable land.

Mizo farmers can use the plant to substitute it for rice grown
according to traditional shifting jhum cultivation,” the minister
told officials of the D1 Oils India (Private) Limited.

On invitation from the state Agriculture minister, Steve Doury, a
London-based reg! ional director and Surju Singh, chairman and
managing director of D1 Oils India (P) Limited had a meeting with the
state Horticulture officials and Mizoram Intodelhna (self-sufficiency)
Project officials on their arrival here recently.

The state’s Horticulture department is tying up with the D1 Oils
India company on a buy

Re: [Assam] Fwd: [Assam Society] Mizo farmer's staple food will bebiodiesel

2005-10-10 Thread mc mahant
That's it-look at Tea andAssam. Look at what happened to Ireland.
Japan's Post ww2 constitution banned rice imports "We eat our own rice or peerish"
mm



From: Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "mc mahant" [EMAIL PROTECTED]CC: assam@assamnet.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Assam] Fwd: [Assam Society] Mizo farmer's staple food will bebiodieselDate: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:43:10 -0500



They all survive out of India's "Peace Dividend".


*** While it might be a cool way to live high on the hog on Mother_India's handouts, it cannot last for ever. In the meantime, what better way neutralize a restive population than to create "states" that produce little, have few resources and thus making them thoroughly dependent on 'mai-baap's" largesse ?

Mono-culture is a great way to rob indigenous peoples' autonomy by making them slaves to markets controlled by others. Imagine the day when Jathropa oil suddenly becomes unattractive and its price plummets? Like the tea that so many rural Assamese took to planting with the big tea houses now paying little for it.







At 9:48 PM +0530 10/10/05, mc mahant wrote:
I visited Mizoram in 1984. Just one Road and row of houses both sides. You could give a letter addressed to any Mizoramian(no stamps needed)to any truck driver heading uphill from Silchar--and you are sure it will be delivered without fail at the correct doorstep.
That is the population density. They all survive out of India's "Peace Dividend". They do live in style. Yet they produce nothing. The land gives nothing. Steep slope. No plains, no water retention at all. Ginger grows. Grapes are growing very well.But dilemma is that their own zealots have banned all drinks-so no winemaking. Assam can consume all thewine they can produce-but nobody teaches the Assamese" Wine Shops"the difference between Beer, Rum ,whiskey and Wine. So no customer demands Wine. So the fine Grape Crop goes waste.
Did I see some Assam Netter wanting a viable investment opportunity in Assam --well this one !
All -Jatrophain Mizoram may bring in some cash for a while. But the people will have no food security for themselves for along time. This is dangerous. I hope they won't be so reckless.
mm




From: Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: assam@assamnet.orgSubject: [Assam] Fwd: [Assam Society] Mizo farmer's staple food will bebiodieselDate: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 08:23:36 -0500blockquote, dl, ul, ol, li {padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;}
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Dear friends ,
Willany community survive if mono culture is introduced and biodiversity is ruptured, where as market will be controlled by others and local farming system which supports the lively hood now will be replaced by JATROPHA,let usthink about Mizoram's tribal community after five years .
Jatropha toxicity is well studied around the world. The referenceliteratures are full of information about its toxic effects. At the websitehttp://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Jatropha_curcas.html#Toxicity.The website http://www.inchem.org/documents/pims/plant/jcurc.htm
scientific evidences of Jatropha poisoning.
The senior natives of Chhattisgarh are also aware of its harmful effects. They explain its effects in simple words'Ek Beeja Se Pet Saf Hothe, Du Se Au, Teen Se Aspatal aur Char Se Upar' (One seed clears the motion, two results in more, three takes to hospital and four to God).
regards
ravi
Mizoram aims to become largest ‘Jatropha’ growerAIZAWL, Oct 8 – Agriculture Minister H Rammawi has expressed hope that Mizoram can be the largest Jatropha producing state in the country.“We will try to make Mizoram the largest Jatropha producing state in India. This is possible with our climate which is perfect for the oil-bearing plant and our large area of arable land.Mizo farmers can use the plant to substitute it for rice grown according to traditional shifting jhum cultivation,” the minister told officials of the D1 Oils India (Private) Limited.On invitation from the state Agriculture minister, Steve Doury, a London-based reg! ional director and Surju Singh, 

Re: [Assam] Fwd: [Assam Society] Mizo farmer's staple food will bebiodiesel

2005-10-10 Thread umesh sharma
I wonder why Assamese businessman cannot be expected to start exporting tea directly abroad - just like the MNCs are doing. With foreign returned supporters like you - with contacts everywhere - I think that is a feasable ploy. 

Why make wine only for the local NE market - when it can be sold across India and abroad (never mind that even in France there is glut of wine which is now being converted into ethanol to be mixed with petrol)

Australia is successfully exporting lots of agri products - why not Assam?

Umeshmc mahant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


That's it-look at Tea andAssam. Look at what happened to Ireland.
Japan's Post ww2 constitution banned rice imports "We eat our own rice or peerish"
mm



From: Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "mc mahant" [EMAIL PROTECTED]CC: assam@assamnet.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Assam] Fwd: [Assam Society] Mizo farmer's staple food will bebiodieselDate: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:43:10 -0500



They all survive out of India's "Peace Dividend".


*** While it might be a cool way to live high on the hog on Mother_India's handouts, it cannot last for ever. In the meantime, what better way neutralize a restive population than to create "states" that produce little, have few resources and thus making them thoroughly dependent on 'mai-baap's" largesse ?

Mono-culture is a great way to rob indigenous peoples' autonomy by making them slaves to markets controlled by others. Imagine the day when Jathropa oil suddenly becomes unattractive and its price plummets? Like the tea that so many rural Assamese took to planting with the big tea houses now paying little for it.







At 9:48 PM +0530 10/10/05, mc mahant wrote:
I visited Mizoram in 1984. Just one Road and row of houses both sides. You could give a letter addressed to any Mizoramian(no stamps needed)to any truck driver heading uphill from Silchar--and you are sure it will be delivered without fail at the correct doorstep.
That is the population density. They all survive out of India's "Peace Dividend". They do live in style. Yet they produce nothing. The land gives nothing. Steep slope. No plains, no water retention at all. Ginger grows. Grapes are growing very well.But dilemma is that their own zealots have banned all drinks-so no winemaking. Assam can consume all thewine they can produce-but nobody teaches the Assamese" Wine Shops"the difference between Beer, Rum ,whiskey and Wine. So no customer demands Wine. So the fine Grape Crop goes waste.
Did I see some Assam Netter wanting a viable investment opportunity in Assam --well this one !
All -Jatrophain Mizoram may bring in some cash for a while. But the people will have no food security for themselves for along time. This is dangerous. I hope they won't be so reckless.
mm




From: Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: assam@assamnet.orgSubject: [Assam] Fwd: [Assam Society] Mizo farmer's staple food will bebiodieselDate: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 08:23:36 -0500blockquote, dl, ul, ol, li {padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;}
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Dear friends ,
Willany community survive if mono culture is introduced and biodiversity is ruptured, where as market will be controlled by others and local farming system which supports the lively hood now will be replaced by JATROPHA,let usthink about Mizoram's tribal community after five years .
Jatropha toxicity is well studied around the world. The referenceliteratures are full of information about its toxic effects. At the websitehttp://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Jatropha_curcas.html#Toxicity.The website http://www.inchem.org/documents/pims/plant/jcurc.htm
scientific evidences of Jatropha poisoning.
The senior natives of Chhattisgarh are also aware of its harmful effects. They explain its effects in simple words'Ek Beeja Se Pet Saf Hothe, Du Se Au, Teen Se Aspatal aur Char Se Upar' (One seed clears the motion, two results in more, three takes to hospital and four to God).
regards
ravi
Mizoram aims to become largest ‘Jatropha’ growerAIZAWL, Oct 8 – Agriculture Minister H Rammawi has expressed hope