Re: [Asterisk-Users] mini-ITX suggestions

2004-01-04 Thread Olle E. Johansson
http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+hardware+mini-itx

New Wiki page on mini-itx with Leo Anne's comment added to it.

Please help us collect experiences on Mini-itx configurations there.
Seems to be a lot of interest in this hardware.
/Olle

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Re: AW: AW: [Asterisk-Users] Snom 200 with two extns defined anyone?

2004-01-04 Thread Olle E. Johansson
Michael Graves wrote:
Please forgive me if this is a silly question. I've been following this
thread in the hope that I could put my * server and snom 200 into
full-time service very soon. I need to find out how to have the lines
Olle Wrote:
I've opened a bug
http://bugs.digium.com/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=732
Let's continue adding information there.

The best way to follow up is to check the bug report, usually when we open a bug,
debate goes on in the bug tracker system to make sure we have all information on 
testing,
patches and possible new errors in the same place.
There's no solution yet, but some discussion and some coding experiments.

/O

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[Asterisk-Users] CAPI, transfering thru a 2nd PBX - keep original CallerID

2004-01-04 Thread Peer Oliver schmidt
Good day,

I want to have Asterisk as my gateway to the outside world and use 
another PBX to connect my existing phones.

How do I specify the dial string to forward the original Caller ID to 
over the ISDN to the second PBX?

Right now, my extensions.conf looks like this:

exten = ${OUTSIDEMSN},1,Dial,CAPI/${MSN2NDPBX}:${EXTEN}

How do I transfer the caller Id information initially coming in?

Any and all help is greatly appreciated.

rgds
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[Asterisk-Users] TDM400P X101P cards, echo issues?

2004-01-04 Thread Patrick Cantwell
Let me start by saying no, this is not the normal stupid echo question :)
I currently have a SIP device and an X101P, and have had the usual echo
issues and have played around with the various solutions, none of which
are quite perfect (understandably).. however, my girlfriend is a little
more picky than I am when she uses the phone, so I'm considering a Digium
TDMXXB card for the house.  My questions to everyone here are:

1) with an x101p and TDM card in the same box, have you noticed any echo
issues
2) if yes, how bad does it seem? Do the echo cancellers in zaptel/asterisk
do a good job of killing it, without causing issues?

I see the default setting for echocancelwhenbridged is no, which gives
me some faith in going the TDM route instead of ATA route, but I'd like to
hear some sugguestions.

Also, I haven't been able to find any real documentation on the various
echo cancellers in zaptel.  Can anyone elaborate on the differences
between the various mechanisms? (ECHO_CAN_)

Finally, I tried recompiling zaptel with -DAGGRESSIVE_SUPPRESSOR, but that
seems to cause more harm than good in my particular setup (if both
parties are talking at the same time, results are indeterminate).

I know echo is caused by a wide range of issues, a wide range of problems,
and everyone's experience has been different.  I'd like to get the most
feedback possible, and it would probably be better to address replies
directly to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to avoid cluttering the list unless
your answer will directly benefit us all :)

Thanks!
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[Asterisk-Users] Hardware to build an Enterprise Asterisk Universal Gateway

2004-01-04 Thread EDWARD WILSON

Does anyone know what the hardware requirements would be to build an Enterprise Asterisk Universal Gateway ? I am thinking of something comprable to the Cisco AS5xxx Series of gateways. 

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[Asterisk-Users] Modem Communications thru *

2004-01-04 Thread fred alexander
Happy New Year,

I have a project to pass modem calls through * convert
them from IP to X.25 and then allow the modems at each
end to talk thru the rtp stream to each other before
calling modem terminates the call.

Datamodem --- FXS(non *)  ADSL  --- *
-Software Application  X.25  modem

While the above occurs I also wish to capture the data
stream and also parse selective parts of these
transactions into a database.

My questions are:

Should I start trying with G.711 (the modem speed is
1200Baud)?
I want to use monitor app. to capture the voice stream
and later convert it using text to speech?

I don't control the modems and part of the stream is
encrypted the rest is just text - strings and numbers

Is there an easier way to do this?

TIA

Fred

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] STOP THIS THREAD New to asterisk? RUN... don't walk.

2004-01-04 Thread Josh Roberson
I agree in stopping the thread, but I do have one question... What would
Qwest think of her posting to the list under a yahoo mail account
representing her company, badmouthing this community, who, in the long
run, could be VERY much worth their interest?

Hmm Just my $.02 - no flames please. 

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Balaji NJL
 Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 8:31 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] STOP THIS THREAD New to asterisk? RUN...
 don't walk.
 
 Hi All,
 
 Can we stop this thread pl. This lady has no
 intentions to learn asterisk.
 She is just a troll and wasting our time. With her
 corporate attitude, what
 she expects is support that available with paid
 commercial products. Her
 company has enough money to buy commercial products,
 let she go there. Hey
 lady, whoever u are, dont waste our time. this is not
 for u.
 
 Lets move on to something useful pl.
 -B
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 5:36 PM
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] New to asterisk? RUN...
 don't walk.
 
 
  On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 14:12, Me wrote:
   Mr. West,
  
   Sorry to burst your bubble, but that is not me.
 My
   name is Barbara Simpson.  Either you are lying or
   someone is trying to remove any credibility from
 my
   original post.  I now stand by my original post
 with
   more conviction than ever.
 
  You had little to no credibility when you show up
 acting like a troll
  from what most people would consider a throw away
 account.
 
   There were a lot of insightful replies.  However,
 none
   of them were able to address the real problems of
 the
   asterisk community and come up with solutions.  If
 you
   can't see your own faults, you are in for a bumpy
   ride.
 
  This is due to the problem residing in the general
 population, not the
  community. The problem resides in users who can't be
 bothered to either
  expend energy, or patience for the software to
 develop. Remember you
  came here, we didn't go recruiting you. So if you
 are disappointed in
  your experience, blame yourself for your
 expectations. As far as I can
  tell here, you haven't paid a single person for
 anything, so any help
  you have received has been at a cost to the other
 people of this
  community.
 
  So the solution is for you to grow up. You need to
 learn that the
  comment you have made in this thread are worthless
 as they don't advance
  anything here. If you want credibility in a
 technical forum, you will
  have to show some technical skills. Otherwise you
 will be cast aside and
  hopefully ignored.
 
   Barbara Simpson
   Qwest Voice Over Packet Services
  
   --- Brian West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You said it good Look what this person
 posted to
my blog... Now thats
what I call grown up.
   
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 10:10:24 -0600
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
IP Address: 24.10.200.168
Name: Jeff Sowery
Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
URL:
   
Comments:
   
You're a complete idiot.  Grow a brain or at
 least
some balls.
   
-Jeff
   
   
NEXT!!!
   
bkw
   
   
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, JR Richardson wrote:
   
 Piping in 2 cents,

 This is a great example of the Internet, Fast
 Food
generation, showing their
 appreciation for all the magic that happens in
 the
labs, hearts and minds of
 the courageous, hard working, dedicated and
motivated group of people truly
 interested and guided to accomplish greatness.

 This platform for learning is one of the best
tools in existence to come to
 a finite understanding of VoIP and legacy
telephony with the versatility to
 expand beyond and develop originality in the
 field
of telecommunications
 excellence, product development.  Learn it,
understand it, appreciate it,
 then take it past where you found it and if
 you're
capable contribute, if
 not, enjoy it.  But always, always maintain
respect for those who created it
 and continue to refine it.

 Learning is intrinsically human, and in this
 world
of Industry (There is no
 substitution for knowledge. [Edward Deming]).
Find your inner child,
 re-capture and embrace what God has given you,
 the
ability to learn.  It
 will require you to put down the remote
 control,
get off the couch and
 decrease your apparently frequent visits to
McDonalds.  Search and find the
 knowledge which you seek to ultimately fulfill
your destiny; build an
 Asterisk Server that works.

 Hell, we all did.

 JR






  Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 12:37:24 -0800 (PST)
  From: Me [EMAIL 

[Asterisk-Users] POTS interfacing recommendation

2004-01-04 Thread Matthew Bloch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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Hello there,

I'm drawing up a scheme to manage our company calls and would like to 
implement it with Asterisk.  In order to get moving quickly I'd like some 
recommendations on what hardware to buy so I can start tinkering.  Initially 
we'd like to be able to support one line to accept incoming calls, and 
another one for forwarding such calls to mobiles or other external phone 
numbers.

My initial thought was that two voice-supporting modems will do this but I get 
the impression that the modem drivers in Asterisk will not behave as flexibly 
as I'd like, and/or that I'll need to get hold of very hard-to-get or 
overpriced modems.  Are either of these impressions true, or do people run 
such phone systems practically with a pair of modems?  If so, do I need 
specific modems and where do I get them? 

If voice modems will be hasslesome, I understand that Zaptel-based cards will 
give me the least problems but I'm not sure which would be the most suitable 
to buy for our needs, how much to expect to pay and so on.  Also bonus points 
for pointing me at a friendly/knowledgeable UK supplier of such cards.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated: once I have some known-working 
hardware in place, I'm cocky enough to believe I can set the software up with 
enough head banging :)

cheers,

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] STOP THIS THREAD New to asterisk? RUN... don't walk.

2004-01-04 Thread Josh Roberson
I agree in stopping the thread, but I do have one question... What would
Qwest think of her posting to the list under a yahoo mail account
representing her company, badmouthing this community, who, in the long
run, could be VERY much worth their interest?


Hmm Just my $.02 - no flames please. 

--
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Indigent Networks
1.877.677.9647 x1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Balaji NJL
 Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 8:31 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] STOP THIS THREAD New to asterisk? RUN...
 don't walk.
 
 Hi All,
 
 Can we stop this thread pl. This lady has no
 intentions to learn asterisk.
 She is just a troll and wasting our time. With her
 corporate attitude, what
 she expects is support that available with paid
 commercial products. Her
 company has enough money to buy commercial products,
 let she go there. Hey
 lady, whoever u are, dont waste our time. this is not
 for u.
 
 Lets move on to something useful pl.
 -B
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 5:36 PM
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] New to asterisk? RUN...
 don't walk.
 
 
  On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 14:12, Me wrote:
   Mr. West,
  
   Sorry to burst your bubble, but that is not me.
 My
   name is Barbara Simpson.  Either you are lying or
   someone is trying to remove any credibility from
 my
   original post.  I now stand by my original post
 with
   more conviction than ever.
 
  You had little to no credibility when you show up
 acting like a troll
  from what most people would consider a throw away
 account.
 
   There were a lot of insightful replies.  However,
 none
   of them were able to address the real problems of
 the
   asterisk community and come up with solutions.  If
 you
   can't see your own faults, you are in for a bumpy
   ride.
 
  This is due to the problem residing in the general
 population, not the
  community. The problem resides in users who can't be
 bothered to either
  expend energy, or patience for the software to
 develop. Remember you
  came here, we didn't go recruiting you. So if you
 are disappointed in
  your experience, blame yourself for your
 expectations. As far as I can
  tell here, you haven't paid a single person for
 anything, so any help
  you have received has been at a cost to the other
 people of this
  community.
 
  So the solution is for you to grow up. You need to
 learn that the
  comment you have made in this thread are worthless
 as they don't advance
  anything here. If you want credibility in a
 technical forum, you will
  have to show some technical skills. Otherwise you
 will be cast aside and
  hopefully ignored.
 
   Barbara Simpson
   Qwest Voice Over Packet Services
  
   --- Brian West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You said it good Look what this person
 posted to
my blog... Now thats
what I call grown up.
   
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 10:10:24 -0600
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
IP Address: 24.10.200.168
Name: Jeff Sowery
Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
URL:
   
Comments:
   
You're a complete idiot.  Grow a brain or at
 least
some balls.
   
-Jeff
   
   
NEXT!!!
   
bkw
   
   
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, JR Richardson wrote:
   
 Piping in 2 cents,

 This is a great example of the Internet, Fast
 Food
generation, showing their
 appreciation for all the magic that happens in
 the
labs, hearts and minds of
 the courageous, hard working, dedicated and
motivated group of people truly
 interested and guided to accomplish greatness.

 This platform for learning is one of the best
tools in existence to come to
 a finite understanding of VoIP and legacy
telephony with the versatility to
 expand beyond and develop originality in the
 field
of telecommunications
 excellence, product development.  Learn it,
understand it, appreciate it,
 then take it past where you found it and if
 you're
capable contribute, if
 not, enjoy it.  But always, always maintain
respect for those who created it
 and continue to refine it.

 Learning is intrinsically human, and in this
 world
of Industry (There is no
 substitution for knowledge. [Edward Deming]).
Find your inner child,
 re-capture and embrace what God has given you,
 the
ability to learn.  It
 will require you to put down the remote
 control,
get off the couch and
 decrease your apparently frequent visits to
McDonalds.  Search and find the
 knowledge which you seek to ultimately fulfill
your destiny; build an
 Asterisk Server that works.

 Hell, we all did.

 JR






  Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 12:37:24 -0800 (PST)
  From: Me [EMAIL 

Re: [Asterisk-Users] POTS interfacing recommendation

2004-01-04 Thread rnc Info Lists
Check http://www.telappliant.com  for their VoIP Starter kits or Telephony
Cards sections.

Robert

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 Hello there,

 .

 for pointing me at a friendly/knowledgeable UK supplier of such cards.

 Any advice would be greatly appreciated: once I have some known-working
 hardware in place, I'm cocky enough to believe I can set the software up
 with
 enough head banging :)

 cheers,

 - --
 Matthew Bloch

Check http://www.telappliant.com  for their VoIP Starter kits or Telephony
Cards sections.  I don't have any experience with the X100 or voice cards
since my implementation is VoIP only (so far).

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] POTS interfacing recommendation

2004-01-04 Thread Olle E. Johansson
Matthew Bloch wrote:
Hello there,

I'm drawing up a scheme to manage our company calls and would like to 
implement it with Asterisk.  In order to get moving quickly I'd like some 
recommendations on what hardware to buy so I can start tinkering.  Initially 
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+hardware+recommendations
is a good place to start. You'll not find all the answers there, but some 
recommendations.
I would really like to see other members of the community add your configurations to
the Wiki. It's helpful for all newbies to see a number of different setups for various
solutions. If you don't want to add it yourself, feel free to mail me a note describing
your setup.
Regards,
/Olle
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] New to asterisk? RUN... don't walk.

2004-01-04 Thread Steve Totaro
I seriously doubt this is actually a Quest employee.  Probably just someone
trying to mess with a boss or something.


- Original Message - 
From: Brian Capouch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] New to asterisk? RUN... don't walk.


 Justin Sinclair wrote:

 
  Your complaints about the Asterisk Community remind me very much of
  complaints often made about the Linux Community. Judging an entire
  community (and even quality of the software) based on the actions of a
  few people is a big mistake.
 

 It was trolling, plain and simple, and unfortunately for Qwest, a lot of
 VoIP-savvy types who *do* pull their own weight in the world now have a
 data point about the moral quality of at least one person who at least
 professes to be part of the Qwest VoIP effort.

 Barbara, who is your boss, and has s/he been watching what you're doing
 for Qwest's reputation out in ListLand?  It is pretty hard not to see
 through the motive behind your post--you should have identified yourself
 as a Qwest employee upfront.

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Re: AW: AW: [Asterisk-Users] Snom 200 with two extns defined anyone?

2004-01-04 Thread Rich Adamson
Mike,

The v2.03f code (alpha/beta?) did correct the multi-line problems very
nicely, however I think the snom folks might have another tweak or two
to make to this code. If your snom 200 is running in a business 
production environment, you might want to wait a little. If you're using
it in a test/home/soho environment, it would appear the code is good
enough to play nicely in the multi-extn environment. Hint: after 
upgrading to v2.03f, on the web interface goto Settings/Base and turn 
off the option for Challenge Response on Phone.

I've not tested this extensively, but v2.03f appears to be very close
to what I'd consider a production release for basic sip/asterisk use
then any release that I've tested in the last several months. (Your
milage may vary!)

In my limited testing, the code handled two extns well, nice Call Waiting
indication, call hold, alternating between extn 1 and 2 nicely, etc.
The only somewhat unusual operation that I noticed was: If the phone
as two calls going on (extn 1 and extn 2, one of which is on hold),
hanging up the phone causes the two extns to be bridged together without
any indication that happened on the phone itself (all LED's are off).
That could get to be embarrasing as it would suggest two inbound
calls from customers/friends/etc are now tied together without you 
knowing it, and no way to recover from that accident.

Rich

 Please forgive me if this is a silly question. I've been following this
 thread in the hope that I could put my * server and snom 200 into
 full-time service very soon. I need to find out how to have the lines
 configured so that it does not return a busy reply when only one call
 instances is engaged.
 
 Am I supposed to create multiple extensions on my asterisk dialplan to
 reflect the 5 call instances? That is, would the snom 200 be extension
 2000 or 2000-2004?
 
 Also, did the 2.03f firmware resolve the matter?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Michael
 
 On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 16:05:39 +0100, Christian Stredicke wrote:
 
 Hi Olle!
 
 I put something into trouble ticket (I guess you get this as email).
 
 BTW 2.03f is available at http://snom.com/download/share.
 
 Christian
 
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  Gesendet: Donnerstag, 1. Januar 2004 11:57
  An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Betreff: Re: AW: [Asterisk-Users] Snom 200 with two extns defined anyone?
  
  Christian Stredicke wrote:
   We at snom have problems with Asterisk when we receive calls without the
   line indication. When we register we place a contact like this:
  
   REGISTER sip:asterisk SIP/2.0
   Contact: sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED];line=h35h345
  
   When we receive the 200 Ok, we search for the h35h345. If we don’t
  find
   it, we try to guess which line is affected. This is relatively easy on a
   REGISTER response, but on an incoming INVITE we have serious problems. I
   think some of the challenging and line-assignment problems are related
  to
   this problem.
  
   Strictly speaking, we register the contact
   sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED];line=h35h345, NOT sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]!
  Parameters
   are an essential part of a URI which must not be discarded.
  Ok, Christian, let's fix this.
  
  First, I'm curious, is the line= parameter specified somewhere? (Always
  looking
  for documentation :-)
  
  Secondly, in many places in the sip channel, everything after the ; is
  discarded.
  I would really appreciate if Snom could help us fixing this, so Snom
  phones work correctly
  and fully with Asterisk. (Have a new Snom 200 on my desk :-)
  
  I'm not an experienced C programmer, so I can't fix this myself. However,
  there are
  experienced C programmers in the community that will fix this, but they
  need proper
  and detailed input on what to fix.
  
  I've opened a bug
  http://bugs.digium.com/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=732
  
  Let's continue adding information there.
  
  BTW, there's some other Snom problems where we need input from SNOM.
  Search on Snom
  in the bug tracker. Thank you for participating in the Asterisk community!
  
  /O
  
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] POTS interfacing recommendation

2004-01-04 Thread Matthew Bloch
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On Sunday 04 January 2004 12:46, rnc Info Lists wrote:
 Check http://www.telappliant.com  for their VoIP Starter kits or Telephony
 Cards sections.

Thanks for the pointer Robert (and from Olle too).  The X100P sounds like a 
good deal for £60 and should let us get started with Asterisk right away.  
One further question: can these cards distinguish (and communicate to 
Asterisk) the difference between the two rings we receive on our one phone 
line through BT's Callsign service?  I assume not but it would be very useful 
if so.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] STOP THIS THREAD New to asterisk? RUN... don't walk.

2004-01-04 Thread Rich Adamson
 I agree in stopping the thread, but I do have one question... What would
 Qwest think of her posting to the list under a yahoo mail account
 representing her company, badmouthing this community, who, in the long
 run, could be VERY much worth their interest?

Come on guys, drop it!!! There isn't anyone on this list that can actually
validate it was her that started the comments in the first place.
Absolutely no one! So drop it.



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Hardware to build an Enterprise Asterisk Universal Gateway

2004-01-04 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Sun, 2004-01-04 at 04:35, EDWARD WILSON wrote:
 Does anyone know what the hardware requirements would be to build an
 Enterprise Asterisk Universal Gateway ?  I am thinking of something
 comprable to the Cisco AS5xxx Series of gateways.  

Just to prepare you, if you ask the above question, you are not ready to
ask the above question.

Basically it falls down to the problem of what is needed to be done, and
more so what is considered enterprise level hardware to be run upon.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Modem Communications thru *

2004-01-04 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Sun, 2004-01-04 at 05:33, fred alexander wrote:
 Happy New Year,
 
 I have a project to pass modem calls through * convert
 them from IP to X.25 and then allow the modems at each
 end to talk thru the rtp stream to each other before
 calling modem terminates the call.
 
 Datamodem --- FXS(non *)  ADSL  --- *
 -Software Application  X.25  modem
 
 While the above occurs I also wish to capture the data
 stream and also parse selective parts of these
 transactions into a database.
 
 My questions are:
 
 Should I start trying with G.711 (the modem speed is
 1200Baud)?
 I want to use monitor app. to capture the voice stream
 and later convert it using text to speech?
 
 I don't control the modems and part of the stream is
 encrypted the rest is just text - strings and numbers

Do you really know what you are asking? You say you have a modem
connection, and then you say you want to use text to speech?

Your problem will be related to the fact that a modem call over a VoIP
is not necessarily stable. If you only need 1200, I'm sure you might be
able to discuss with Steve Underwood about changing the tx/rx fax app to
be a modem only app. At that point you could dial in to a local port
with a software modem, convert to your text string, and send it to the
other side. On the other side you can then push that though another
software modem to the line out. 

Just remember that G711 uses around 80K bandwidth to send 1200.  
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Hardware to build an Enterprise AsteriskUniversal Gateway

2004-01-04 Thread Doug Shubert
I would set the Enterprise Class bar at five 9's reliability
(about 5.25 minutes per year of down time) the same
as a Class 4/5 phone switch. This would require redundant
design considerations in both hardware and software.

In our network, Linux is approaching
Enterprise Class and I don't see why *
could not achieve this in the near future.


Steven Critchfield wrote:

 On Sun, 2004-01-04 at 04:35, EDWARD WILSON wrote:
  Does anyone know what the hardware requirements would be to build an
  Enterprise Asterisk Universal Gateway ?  I am thinking of something
  comprable to the Cisco AS5xxx Series of gateways.

 Just to prepare you, if you ask the above question, you are not ready to
 ask the above question.

 Basically it falls down to the problem of what is needed to be done, and
 more so what is considered enterprise level hardware to be run upon.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] POTS interfacing recommendation

2004-01-04 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Sun, 2004-01-04 at 08:39, Matthew Bloch wrote:
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 Hash: SHA1
 
 On Sunday 04 January 2004 12:46, rnc Info Lists wrote:
  Check http://www.telappliant.com  for their VoIP Starter kits or Telephony
  Cards sections.
 
 Thanks for the pointer Robert (and from Olle too).  The X100P sounds like a 
 good deal for £60 and should let us get started with Asterisk right away.  
 One further question: can these cards distinguish (and communicate to 
 Asterisk) the difference between the two rings we receive on our one phone 
 line through BT's Callsign service?  I assume not but it would be very useful 
 if so.

The two separate rings sounds like you are asking for what we call
distinctive ring. Multiple phone numbers attached to a single line and
that line will signal the difference via a different ring cadence. This
is supposed to work, but I haven't tried it.

Something to think about on all system deployments is what are the
chances for expansion. Some hardware limits your expansion without
scraping some of your hardware investment. For instance if you go the
X100P route, and you later need 4 physical lines you may not be able to
get this working with X100P cards. But if you go with a T/E100P and a
nice channel bank then you should be able to build up to 24 channels in
a nice mix of in and out lines. Granted it is more investment up front,
but you don't scrap it later when you grow.

I don't know if there is a VoIP provider in your area, but you may wish
to think about the costs of a VoIP provider. You mention that your calls
come in and get forwarded out. In this case a VoIP provider that allows
you to have more than 1 line active or more than one account means you
just do the forward at your office and then the VoIP provider does all
the phone hookups. This also means you won't need to worry about the
ring problem since the dialed number will be transmitted in the VoIP
protocol. Also if your calls are mostly forwarded off, this is a easy
way to later grow to more lines without having any hardware at all to
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Hardware to build an Enterprise AsteriskUniversal Gateway

2004-01-04 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
 I would set the Enterprise Class bar at five 9's reliability
 (about 5.25 minutes per year of down time) the same
 as a Class 4/5 phone switch. This would require redundant
 design considerations in both hardware and software.

My Norstar Meridian system has nowhere near this.  We get about 5 minutes 
downtime every month (usually trunk card issues).

Not arguing against anything you've said, just making a datapoint.

Regards,
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Hardware to build an Enterprise AsteriskUniversal Gateway

2004-01-04 Thread WipeOut
Doug Shubert wrote:

I would set the Enterprise Class bar at five 9's reliability
(about 5.25 minutes per year of down time) the same
as a Class 4/5 phone switch. This would require redundant
design considerations in both hardware and software.
In our network, Linux is approaching
Enterprise Class and I don't see why *
could not achieve this in the near future.
 

Asterisk would need some kind of clustering/load balancing ability 
(Single IP system image for the IP phones across multiple servers) to be 
truely Enterprise Class in terms of both reliability and 
scaleability..  Obviously that would not be as relevent for the analog 
hard wired phones unless the channelbanks and T1/E1 lines could be 
automatically switched to another server..

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Re: AW: AW: [Asterisk-Users] Snom 200 with two extns defined anyone?

2004-01-04 Thread Michael Graves
Rich,

What form of config is required in * to get 1 extensions available.
Single login/registry or multiple? Do I have to specify lines per
Christiasn's earlier mail?

Thanks,
Michael

On Sun,  4 Jan 2004 07:58:21 -0600, Rich Adamson wrote:

Mike,

The v2.03f code (alpha/beta?) did correct the multi-line problems very
nicely, however I think the snom folks might have another tweak or two
to make to this code. If your snom 200 is running in a business 
production environment, you might want to wait a little. If you're using
it in a test/home/soho environment, it would appear the code is good
enough to play nicely in the multi-extn environment. Hint: after 
upgrading to v2.03f, on the web interface goto Settings/Base and turn 
off the option for Challenge Response on Phone.

I've not tested this extensively, but v2.03f appears to be very close
to what I'd consider a production release for basic sip/asterisk use
then any release that I've tested in the last several months. (Your
milage may vary!)

In my limited testing, the code handled two extns well, nice Call Waiting
indication, call hold, alternating between extn 1 and 2 nicely, etc.
The only somewhat unusual operation that I noticed was: If the phone
as two calls going on (extn 1 and extn 2, one of which is on hold),
hanging up the phone causes the two extns to be bridged together without
any indication that happened on the phone itself (all LED's are off).
That could get to be embarrasing as it would suggest two inbound
calls from customers/friends/etc are now tied together without you 
knowing it, and no way to recover from that accident.

Rich

 Please forgive me if this is a silly question. I've been following this
 thread in the hope that I could put my * server and snom 200 into
 full-time service very soon. I need to find out how to have the lines
 configured so that it does not return a busy reply when only one call
 instances is engaged.
 
 Am I supposed to create multiple extensions on my asterisk dialplan to
 reflect the 5 call instances? That is, would the snom 200 be extension
 2000 or 2000-2004?
 
 Also, did the 2.03f firmware resolve the matter?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Michael
 
 On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 16:05:39 +0100, Christian Stredicke wrote:
 
 Hi Olle!
 
 I put something into trouble ticket (I guess you get this as email).
 
 BTW 2.03f is available at http://snom.com/download/share.
 
 Christian
 
  -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
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  Betreff: Re: AW: [Asterisk-Users] Snom 200 with two extns defined anyone?
  
  Christian Stredicke wrote:
   We at snom have problems with Asterisk when we receive calls without the
   line indication. When we register we place a contact like this:
  
   REGISTER sip:asterisk SIP/2.0
   Contact: sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED];line=h35h345
  
   When we receive the 200 Ok, we search for the h35h345. If we don’t
  find
   it, we try to guess which line is affected. This is relatively easy on a
   REGISTER response, but on an incoming INVITE we have serious problems. I
   think some of the challenging and line-assignment problems are related
  to
   this problem.
  
   Strictly speaking, we register the contact
   sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED];line=h35h345, NOT sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]!
  Parameters
   are an essential part of a URI which must not be discarded.
  Ok, Christian, let's fix this.
  
  First, I'm curious, is the line= parameter specified somewhere? (Always
  looking
  for documentation :-)
  
  Secondly, in many places in the sip channel, everything after the ; is
  discarded.
  I would really appreciate if Snom could help us fixing this, so Snom
  phones work correctly
  and fully with Asterisk. (Have a new Snom 200 on my desk :-)
  
  I'm not an experienced C programmer, so I can't fix this myself. However,
  there are
  experienced C programmers in the community that will fix this, but they
  need proper
  and detailed input on what to fix.
  
  I've opened a bug
  http://bugs.digium.com/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=732
  
  Let's continue adding information there.
  
  BTW, there's some other Snom problems where we need input from SNOM.
  Search on Snom
  in the bug tracker. Thank you for participating in the Asterisk community!
  
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie - getting two local phonestocommunicate would be a good start :)

2004-01-04 Thread Olle E. Johansson
Mike Jagdis wrote:


John Coll wrote:

Dave

You were right

disallow=all
allow=ulaw
allow=alaw
gave me two-way voice! Whew! Thanks a million.  I wonder if I really 
should
have found that for myself ... I've added it to the voip-info.org wiki

OK lets see if the next step is a bit easier :)

thanks again all

john


Note that if you don't have canreinvite=no you probably also want to
disable gsm on the GS phones themselves (just change the 723 entry in
the list on the admin page to a repeat of a 711).
Initially * negotiates each leg and relays packets. So the disallow
and allow in *'s config works. If reinvite is enabled * then about
10 seconds later the two end points will bounce SIP INVITES between
each other and start sending packets direct. Since * isn't in on
this negotiation the fact that it is configured to filter gsm out
of the codec list is immaterial...
I don't know if gsm actually works between GS phones or not, but it
definitely doesn't to other stuff. They negotiate gsm fine but send
gsm data to the rtp port and the GS phone replies with icmp errors.
Non-gsm data is fine...
Added to
http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+phone+grandstream+budgetone
Thank you!
Guess most of this also applies to the Handytone.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Java?

2004-01-04 Thread Philipp von Klitzing
Hi!

   Apache + Mysql + PHP ( Ming + Actionscript ) + Asterisk is good.
   Dynamic effective,Easy coding and Fast response :-)
  
  That's an excellent suggestion, I agree with Ray. Masakazu, do you think 
  you could provide a working sample either here on the list or in the 
  Wiki?
  
 yeah. surely ok. but please just a moment to disclose my code.
 because that is very evalution code at now. bit buggy ;-)

Ok, wounderful - I am *very* curious about this! No need to present 
things in a perfect shape though, we all know perfection is a function of 
time...

By the way: I installed ming two days ago and got the php module (so 
didn't compile ming support into PHP), but apparently I am not able to 
use Flash 6 code that way, only 4 and 5). Did I maybe get the wrong php 
module? I found http://www16.brinkster.com/gazb/ming/ to have interesting 
samples, especially the dynbarchart one.

Cheers, Philipp


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Hardware to build an Enterprise Asterisk Universal Gateway

2004-01-04 Thread Olle E. Johansson
Steven Critchfield wrote:

Just to prepare you, if you ask the above question, you are not ready to
ask the above question.
Quote added to
http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+quotes
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[Asterisk-Users] Voicemail Out call

2004-01-04 Thread Kevin








There was a post in the wiki for an
application to provide an outcall when there is a voicemail is left on
asterisk. I am having a problem
that this application will only work if the caller presses the pound sign at
the end of recording. As most people just hang up, this application
isnt working. Can any offer
suggestions to accomplish this out call?



http://voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+tips+callback



[macro-leave_voicemail] 
;Leaveavoicemailmessage,thendopost-processing. 
;oCallconfiguredphones,withanannouncementthatamessage

;iswaiting,andtheoptiontolistentothevoicemail(s)

;${ARG1}=uorbfor'unavailable'or'busy'message

;${ARG2}=mailbox

;
${ARG3}=Calluserflag 
;USAGE: 
; exten=s,15,Macro(leave_voicemail,u,310,1)


exten=s,1,ResponseTimeout(30)

exten=s,2,Voicemail2(${ARG1}${ARG2})

exten
= s,3,GoToIf($[${ARG3} = 0]?s|5) 
exten=s,4,system(${SCRIPTS_DIR}/voicemail_callback.sh${ARG2}) 
exten=s,5,NoOp


exten=h,1,GoToIf($ANBSP;CLASS='WIKI'NBSP;NBSP;HREF=''${ARG3}=0?h|3)

exten=h,2,system(${SCRIPTS_DIR}/voicemail_callback.sh${ARG2}) 
exten=h,3,NoOp

exten=t,1,GoToIf($ANBSP;CLASS='WIKI'NBSP;NBSP;HREF=''${ARG3}=0?t|3)

exten=t,2,system(${SCRIPTS_DIR}/voicemail_callback.sh${ARG2}) 
exten=t,3,NoOp






Thanks,



Kevin














Re: [Asterisk-Users] Hardware to build an Enterprise AsteriskUniversal Gateway

2004-01-04 Thread Olle E. Johansson
Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
I would set the Enterprise Class bar at five 9's reliability
(about 5.25 minutes per year of down time) the same
as a Class 4/5 phone switch. This would require redundant
design considerations in both hardware and software.

To turn around, let's discuss what we need to focus on to get
Asterisk there:
Here's a few bullet points, there's certainly a lot more
* Linux platform stability - how?
** Special demands when using Zaptel cards
* Redundancy architecture
* Development/stable release scheme
Then we have some channel demands, like
* Better support for SRV records in the SIP channel
More?

/O

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk, enterprise edition (New subject)

2004-01-04 Thread Olle E. Johansson
WipeOut wrote:


Asterisk would need some kind of clustering/load balancing ability 
(Single IP system image for the IP phones across multiple servers) to be 
truely Enterprise Class in terms of both reliability and 
scaleability..  Obviously that would not be as relevent for the analog 
hard wired phones unless the channelbanks and T1/E1 lines could be 
automatically switched to another server..
Anyone that have peeked into Vovidas heartbeat/cluster architecture?

/O

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[Asterisk-Users] Two E100P boards - could not load zaptel module - Channel 63 - no such device

2004-01-04 Thread Daniel Bichara
Hi,

I have two E100P boards connected to my PC. I wish to setup two 
E1-ISDN-PRI lines, the first SPAN with 15 channels and the second one 
with 30 channels. When I try to load zaptel modules, I get an error message:

Loading zaptel framework:
Loading zaptel hardware modules: wct1xxp wcusb
Running ztcfg: ZT_CHANCONFIG failed on channel 63: No such device
Follows my zaptel.conf:

span=1,0,0,ccs,hdb3
bchan=1-15
dchan=16
span=2,0,0,ccs,hdb3
bchan=33-47,49-63
dchan=48,64
Any clue?

Daniel



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Hardware to build an Enterprise AsteriskUniversal Gateway

2004-01-04 Thread Rich Adamson
 I would set the Enterprise Class bar at five 9's reliability
 (about 5.25 minutes per year of down time) the same
 as a Class 4/5 phone switch. This would require redundant
 design considerations in both hardware and software.
 
 In our network, Linux is approaching
 Enterprise Class and I don't see why *
 could not achieve this in the near future.

Linux might approach that, but * as an application won't in its present
design for lots of reasons that have already been discussed. I'd be
reasonable certain (you're right) it will head that direction, it just 
happens to not be there today. On the surface, I've not heard of
anyone that is actually addressing it either.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] CAPI, transfering thru a 2nd PBX - keep original CallerID

2004-01-04 Thread Philipp von Klitzing
Hi!

 I want to have Asterisk as my gateway to the outside world and use 
 another PBX to connect my existing phones.
 
 exten = ${OUTSIDEMSN},1,Dial,CAPI/${MSN2NDPBX}:${EXTEN}
 
 How do I transfer the caller Id information initially coming in?

I have strong doubts that this can be done at all. One way would be to 
set your ${MSN2ndPBX} to ${CALLERIDNUM}, but that would require that 
capi.conf has that CALLERIDNUM listed as one of the valid outgoing MSNs. 
Since you won't know in advance who'll call that'll be a problem - also I 
don't think you can reconfigure capi.conf in the midst of processing a 
call...

Besides: I suppose your ISDN PBX (which brand exactly?) supports CLIP (or 
comes with an internal S0 bus) and you have an analog CLIP phone (or ISDN 
phone) connected?

Workaround: See my last posting and other very recent discussions 
concerning a simple tool that shows the current caller ID and name on 
your PC using either Flash, HTML or Java. Or use astman/ gastman. 
As of now I am storing the caller data through AGI in mySQL and display 
that on a web page that the user needs to re-load manually when desired.

Cheers, Philipp


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Voicemail Out call

2004-01-04 Thread Iain Stevenson
It is a problem - but the call recording is saved by * when you hang up. 
So you need to look for new files in whichever directory the call 
recordings are saved and pick them up eg with a script.

 Iain

--On Sunday, January 04, 2004 12:07:35 -0500 Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



There was a post in the 'wiki' for an application to provide an outcall
when there is a voicemail is left on asterisk.  I am having a problem
that this application will only work if the caller presses the pound sign
at the end of recording.   As most people just hang up, this application
isn't working.  Can any offer suggestions to accomplish this out call?


http://voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+tips+callback



[macro-leave_voicemail]
 ; Leave a voicemail message, then do post-processing.
 ;   o Call configured phones, with an announcement that a message
 ;  is waiting, and the option to listen to the voicemail(s)
 ;${ARG1} = u or b for 'unavailable' or 'busy' message
 ;${ARG2} = mailbox
 ;  ${ARG3} = Call user flag
 ; USAGE:
 ; exten = s,15,Macro(leave_voicemail,u,310,1)
 exten = s,1,ResponseTimeout(30)
 exten = s,2,Voicemail2(${ARG1}${ARG2})
 exten = s,3,GoToIf($[${ARG3} = 0]?s|5)
 exten = s,4,system(${SCRIPTS_DIR}/voicemail_callback.sh ${ARG2})
 exten = s,5,NoOp
 exten =
h,1,GoToIf($ANBSP;CLASS='WIKI'NBSP;NBSP;HREF='${ARG3}NBSP;=NBSP;0'
${ARG3} = 0?h|3)   exten =
h,2,system(${SCRIPTS_DIR}/voicemail_callback.sh ${ARG2})   exten =
h,3,NoOp
 exten =
t,1,GoToIf($ANBSP;CLASS='WIKI'NBSP;NBSP;HREF='${ARG3}NBSP;=NBSP;0'
${ARG3} = 0?t|3)   exten =
t,2,system(${SCRIPTS_DIR}/voicemail_callback.sh ${ARG2})   exten =
t,3,NoOp




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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Two E100P boards - could not load zaptel module - Channel 63 - no such device

2004-01-04 Thread Scott Stingel
Yes, I think it should be:

span=1,0,0,ccs,hdb3
bchan=1-15
dchan=16
span=2,0,0,ccs,hdb3
bchan=32-46,48-62
dchan=47

Cheers,

Scott M. Stingel 
Emerging Voice Technology Inc.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Two E100P boards - could not load zaptel module -
Channel 63 - no such device


Hi,

I have two E100P boards connected to my PC. I wish to setup two 
E1-ISDN-PRI lines, the first SPAN with 15 channels and the second one 
with 30 channels. When I try to load zaptel modules, I get an error message:

Loading zaptel framework:
Loading zaptel hardware modules: wct1xxp wcusb
Running ztcfg: ZT_CHANCONFIG failed on channel 63: No such device

Follows my zaptel.conf:

span=1,0,0,ccs,hdb3
bchan=1-15
dchan=16
span=2,0,0,ccs,hdb3
bchan=33-47,49-63
dchan=48,64

Any clue?

Daniel




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[Asterisk-Users] help - recording both sides of a conversation

2004-01-04 Thread Paul Mahler
Does some kind Asterisk soul have an example from extensions.conf that shows
how to record both sides of a conversation?

Thanks!

 
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fax: 877.408.0105

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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] CAPI, transfering thru a 2nd PBX - keep
original CallerID

Hi!

 I want to have Asterisk as my gateway to the outside world and use 
 another PBX to connect my existing phones.
 
 exten = ${OUTSIDEMSN},1,Dial,CAPI/${MSN2NDPBX}:${EXTEN}
 
 How do I transfer the caller Id information initially coming in?

I have strong doubts that this can be done at all. One way would be to 
set your ${MSN2ndPBX} to ${CALLERIDNUM}, but that would require that 
capi.conf has that CALLERIDNUM listed as one of the valid outgoing MSNs. 
Since you won't know in advance who'll call that'll be a problem - also I 
don't think you can reconfigure capi.conf in the midst of processing a 
call...

Besides: I suppose your ISDN PBX (which brand exactly?) supports CLIP (or 
comes with an internal S0 bus) and you have an analog CLIP phone (or ISDN 
phone) connected?

Workaround: See my last posting and other very recent discussions 
concerning a simple tool that shows the current caller ID and name on 
your PC using either Flash, HTML or Java. Or use astman/ gastman. 
As of now I am storing the caller data through AGI in mySQL and display 
that on a web page that the user needs to re-load manually when desired.

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[Asterisk-Users] OT: Anyone going to Open Source Telephony Summit in Geilenkirchen from North Germany?

2004-01-04 Thread Peer Oliver schmidt
Hello,

anyone from northern germany planning to go to 
http://www.guug.de/veranstaltungen/telephony-summit-2004/

If yes, could you contact me off list. Maybe we can save some money by 
car-pooling?!
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Hardware to build an Enterprise Asterisk Universal Gateway

2004-01-04 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Sun, 2004-01-04 at 11:07, Olle E. Johansson wrote:
 Steven Critchfield wrote:
 
  Just to prepare you, if you ask the above question, you are not ready to
  ask the above question.
 
 Quote added to
 http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+quotes

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] CAPI, transfering thru a 2nd PBX - keep original CallerID

2004-01-04 Thread Peer Oliver schmidt
Philipp von Klitzing worte:

I want to have Asterisk as my gateway to the outside world and use 
another PBX to connect my existing phones.
exten = ${OUTSIDEMSN},1,Dial,CAPI/${MSN2NDPBX}:${EXTEN}
How do I transfer the caller Id information initially coming in?

I have strong doubts that this can be done at all. One way would be to 
[..]
Besides: I suppose your ISDN PBX (which brand exactly?) supports CLIP (or 
comes with an internal S0 bus) and you have an analog CLIP phone (or ISDN 
phone) connected?
Correct. It would save me from buying FXS cards. (The PBX is a Gesko 
2108 Office).

Thanks for pointing out your workaround. It is a feasible solution for 
times when the computer is near the phone, most of the time, the phone 
is away.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] help - recording both sides of a conversation

2004-01-04 Thread Philipp von Klitzing
Paul,

you broke the thread! Please create your own top posting - or better, 
search the list archive!

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Re: AW: AW: [Asterisk-Users] Snom 200 with two extns defined anyone?

2004-01-04 Thread Rich Adamson
Mike,

 What form of config is required in * to get 1 extensions available.
 Single login/registry or multiple? Do I have to specify lines per
 Christiasn's earlier mail?

In my implementation, the two extns are treated as though they are
separate phones with separate (independent) logins, like:
[3006]
type=friend
host=dynamic
username=3006
secret=password
context=from-sip
mailbox=3006
[3007]
type=friend
host=dynamic
username=3007
secret=password
context=from-sip
mailbox=3007

And on the phone, complete the
 a) two line entries under Settings/SIP/Lines (w/Action=proxy)
 b) two authentications under Settings/SIP/Authentication (Line 1  2)
 c) two Function Keys under Settings/SIP/Key Mapping (P1  P2)

I've not figured out for sure when a phone reboot is required and
when it is not. Seems some changes are accepted dynamically while
others require a reboot. To keep from getting caught with unknowns,
I rebooted the phone.

After the reboot, the Settings/SIP/Lines show Registered for both
lines.

In an off-list discussion, it turns out that if you have two lines
in use (one active and one on hold) and then hang the phone up, the
two extns are bridged together. Apparently that's an expectation in
European ISDN, but certainly a surprise in the US. That apparently
only happens if two lines are actually in use (if four lines are
on hold and one line active, it doesn't bridge all five extns, but
I've not tried it either).

That's the only surprise I've seen thus far in v2.03f code, other then
turning off the Challenge Response on Phone option (under Settings/Base).

MOH (from *), MWI, nice Call Waiting tone with extn LED blinking, etc,
all work very nicely. (I don't use the phonebook, xml or anything like
that, so didn't bother testing those things.) If you select button 2
to initiate a call, the proper CallerID is used, etc.

Ringer is very loud for an office environment and there does not appear
to be any way to adjust the volume. Maybe that'll come later.

I have noticed that what is displayed in Settings/Base under Version
is not accurate until after the second reboot (following a firmware
upgrade). However, the phone's panel does display the correct version
after a single reboot.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Hardware to build an Enterprise AsteriskUniversal Gateway

2004-01-04 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Sun, 2004-01-04 at 10:14, Doug Shubert wrote:
 I would set the Enterprise Class bar at five 9's reliability
 (about 5.25 minutes per year of down time) the same
 as a Class 4/5 phone switch. This would require redundant
 design considerations in both hardware and software.
 
 In our network, Linux is approaching
 Enterprise Class and I don't see why *
 could not achieve this in the near future.

I may be wrong, but I think the 5 9's relates to full system not to
individual pieces especially when talking about a class4/5 switch. On a
small scale deployment, that will be a problem as you won't implement
full redundancy. Redundancy adds quite a bit to the cost of your
deployment. 

As far as linux goes, it is at that level if you put forth the effort to
make it's environment decent. I have multiple machines approaching 2
years of uptime, and many over a year of uptime. I have not had a
machine in my colo space go down since we removed the one machine with a
buggy NIC.

So next step, is asterisk. Outside of a couple of deadlocks from kernel
problems when I was compiling new modules, I haven't had asterisk knock
over while doing normal calls.

The downtime could have been dealt with by having some redundancy in the
physical lines. I would have lost the calls on the line, but the calls
could be reconnected immediately. 

I can say up front that I have asterisk installs running multiple months
without problems. 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Voicemail Out call

2004-01-04 Thread Rich Adamson

 There was a post in the wiki for an application to provide an outcall when there 
is a voicemail is left on asterisk.  I am
 having a problem that this application will only work if the caller presses the 
pound sign at the end of recording.   As most
 people just hang up, this application isnt working.  Can any offer suggestions to 
accomplish this out call?
 
  
 
 http://voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+tips+callback

I'm not running the app, but pure 100% guess, in voicemail.conf try:
[general]
maxsilence=10  ; number of secs of silence before vm drops the connection



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk, enterprise edition (New subject)

2004-01-04 Thread Nick Bachmann
 WipeOut wrote:


 Asterisk would need some kind of clustering/load balancing ability
 (Single IP system image for the IP phones across multiple servers) to
 be  truely Enterprise Class in terms of both reliability and
 scaleability..  Obviously that would not be as relevent for the analog
  hard wired phones unless the channelbanks and T1/E1 lines could be
 automatically switched to another server..

Switching a T1 automagically seems like it would be an easy hack, but it
wouldn't be needed for customers who had more than one T1 (like, say, most
Enterprises :-).  The exception to this is people who are muxing their
internal phones, of course.
 Anyone that have peeked into Vovidas heartbeat/cluster architecture?

Yes, I've played with it a bit.  It's pretty simplistic... the clustering
just keeps several servers in sync with each other.  I suppose that would
be easy to do with Asterisk, especially if configuration data was stored
in a RDBMS that could do replication.  Even now, setting up a copy/reload
routine isn't difficult.
It also seems that if you had a load balancer set up in front of your *
servers to balance the call requests, you'd have enough clustering to keep
one failure from taking down the whole system. Since the load balancer
keeps an affinity table (and monitors to make sure the servers aren't
going down) all VoIP connections could end up at the same * box once they
had been allocated, unless a server goes down, in which case the call
probably gets dropped. Any planned downtime could be made without any
disruptions, since you could stop the load balancer from allocating any
more connections to the * box and use 'stop when convenient' to wait for
all current calls to end.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] OT: Anyone going to Open Source Telephony Summit in Geilenkirchen from North Germany?

2004-01-04 Thread Craig Waddington
Thanks for the info.  I would like to go.

Is it in German or English?

I only speak English.

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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] OT: Anyone going to Open Source Telephony
Summit in Geilenkirchen from North Germany?

Hello,

anyone from northern germany planning to go to 
http://www.guug.de/veranstaltungen/telephony-summit-2004/

If yes, could you contact me off list. Maybe we can save some money by 
car-pooling?!
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk, enterprise edition (New subject)

2004-01-04 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Sun, 2004-01-04 at 12:53, Nick Bachmann wrote:
  WipeOut wrote:
 
 
  Asterisk would need some kind of clustering/load balancing ability
  (Single IP system image for the IP phones across multiple servers) to
  be  truely Enterprise Class in terms of both reliability and
  scaleability..  Obviously that would not be as relevent for the analog
   hard wired phones unless the channelbanks and T1/E1 lines could be
  automatically switched to another server..
 
 Switching a T1 automagically seems like it would be an easy hack, but it
 wouldn't be needed for customers who had more than one T1 (like, say, most
 Enterprises :-).  The exception to this is people who are muxing their
 internal phones, of course.

Switching a T1 has been discussed, it needs a special adapter. 

  Anyone that have peeked into Vovidas heartbeat/cluster architecture?
 
 Yes, I've played with it a bit.  It's pretty simplistic... the clustering
 just keeps several servers in sync with each other.  I suppose that would
 be easy to do with Asterisk, especially if configuration data was stored
 in a RDBMS that could do replication.  Even now, setting up a copy/reload
 routine isn't difficult.

A database doesn't make this easier. I would suggest you look into a
revision control system and the ability to register applications/scripts
to be run on check in of changes. Your benefit here is a quick roll out
on hardware failure, plus roll back. You probably have seen people doing
mailings based on CVS check ins, you could have those trigger a script
on the clients that pulled fresh copies and did a reload. Fairly simple
over all.

 It also seems that if you had a load balancer set up in front of your *
 servers to balance the call requests, you'd have enough clustering to keep
 one failure from taking down the whole system. Since the load balancer
 keeps an affinity table (and monitors to make sure the servers aren't
 going down) all VoIP connections could end up at the same * box once they
 had been allocated, unless a server goes down, in which case the call
 probably gets dropped. Any planned downtime could be made without any
 disruptions, since you could stop the load balancer from allocating any
 more connections to the * box and use 'stop when convenient' to wait for
 all current calls to end.

The problem here is that you do have a single point of failure, the load
balancer. It would be better to have multiple machines that you
selectively placed as primary and backup in your VoIP phones. It isn't
true load balancing, but it does allow you only loose a specific amount
of calls in progress at any time if a machine fails. Calls could then be
picked up and restarted via the other machine. This would give fault
tolerance, and would give the impression of having 5 9's as long as the
failures are sufficiently spaced out. 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Hardware to build an Enterprise AsteriskUniversal Gateway

2004-01-04 Thread Rich Adamson
 Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
 I would set the Enterprise Class bar at five 9's reliability
 (about 5.25 minutes per year of down time) the same
 as a Class 4/5 phone switch. This would require redundant
 design considerations in both hardware and software.
  
 
 To turn around, let's discuss what we need to focus on to get
 Asterisk there:
 
 Here's a few bullet points, there's certainly a lot more
 * Linux platform stability - how?
 ** Special demands when using Zaptel cards
 * Redundancy architecture
 * Development/stable release scheme
 
 Then we have some channel demands, like
 * Better support for SRV records in the SIP channel
 
 More?

Better sip phone support for primary/secondary proxy (and failover)
 (note: some phones don't support a second proxy at all; some say they
  do, but fail at it.)

Maybe some sort of HSRP (hot spare standby protocol, or whatever)

Some form of dynamic config sharing between pri/sec systems

Won't mention external pstn line failover as that's sort of a separate
  topic, or loss of calls in flight, etc.

I'd guess part of the five-9's discussion centers around how automated
must one be to be able to actually get close?  If one assumes the loss
of a SIMM the answer/effort certainly is different then assuming the 
loss of a single interface card (when multiples exist), etc.

I would doubt that anyone reading this list actually have a justifiable
business requirement for five-9's given the expontential cost/effort
involved to get there. But, setting some sort of reasonable goal
that would focus towards failover within xx number of seconds (and
maybe some other conditions) seems very practical. 



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk, enterprise edition (New subject)

2004-01-04 Thread WipeOut
Nick Bachmann wrote:

Yes, I've played with it a bit.  It's pretty simplistic... the clustering
just keeps several servers in sync with each other.  I suppose that would
be easy to do with Asterisk, especially if configuration data was stored
in a RDBMS that could do replication.  Even now, setting up a copy/reload
routine isn't difficult.
It also seems that if you had a load balancer set up in front of your *
servers to balance the call requests, you'd have enough clustering to keep
one failure from taking down the whole system. Since the load balancer
keeps an affinity table (and monitors to make sure the servers aren't
going down) all VoIP connections could end up at the same * box once they
had been allocated, unless a server goes down, in which case the call
probably gets dropped. Any planned downtime could be made without any
disruptions, since you could stop the load balancer from allocating any
more connections to the * box and use 'stop when convenient' to wait for
all current calls to end.
Nick
 

As long as what ever system is used only presents a single IP address on 
the network, the reason being that if a SIP UA is behind NAT the NAT 
router will have opened a path for the response from the server it 
contacted, if the request was offloaded to another IP address then the 
response would not get through..

Also the servers in the cluster would have to share SIP registration 
information so that all servers would know all availible UA's and all 
servers would have to communicate to that UA on the same IP address..

These things could have major issues when it came to the RTP streams..

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Hardware to build an Enterprise AsteriskUniversal Gateway

2004-01-04 Thread WipeOut
Steven Critchfield wrote:

On Sun, 2004-01-04 at 10:14, Doug Shubert wrote:
 

I would set the Enterprise Class bar at five 9's reliability
(about 5.25 minutes per year of down time) the same
as a Class 4/5 phone switch. This would require redundant
design considerations in both hardware and software.
In our network, Linux is approaching
Enterprise Class and I don't see why *
could not achieve this in the near future.
   

I may be wrong, but I think the 5 9's relates to full system not to
individual pieces especially when talking about a class4/5 switch. On a
small scale deployment, that will be a problem as you won't implement
full redundancy. Redundancy adds quite a bit to the cost of your
deployment. 

As far as linux goes, it is at that level if you put forth the effort to
make it's environment decent. I have multiple machines approaching 2
years of uptime, and many over a year of uptime. I have not had a
machine in my colo space go down since we removed the one machine with a
buggy NIC.
So next step, is asterisk. Outside of a couple of deadlocks from kernel
problems when I was compiling new modules, I haven't had asterisk knock
over while doing normal calls.
The downtime could have been dealt with by having some redundancy in the
physical lines. I would have lost the calls on the line, but the calls
could be reconnected immediately. 

I can say up front that I have asterisk installs running multiple months
without problems. 
 

Steven,

You often mention your servers uptime, I am assuming you don't count 
reboots since you must have had to patch your kernel at least a few 
times in the last year and the reboot would have reset your uptime..

If that is the case then I have a server that is also around the 2 year 
uptime mark.. The longest single runtime between reboots for updated 
kernels is only 127 days.. :)

Later..

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Hardware to build an Enterprise AsteriskUniversal Gateway

2004-01-04 Thread WipeOut
Rich Adamson wrote:

Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
   

I would set the Enterprise Class bar at five 9's reliability
(about 5.25 minutes per year of down time) the same
as a Class 4/5 phone switch. This would require redundant
design considerations in both hardware and software.
   

To turn around, let's discuss what we need to focus on to get
Asterisk there:
Here's a few bullet points, there's certainly a lot more
* Linux platform stability - how?
** Special demands when using Zaptel cards
* Redundancy architecture
* Development/stable release scheme
Then we have some channel demands, like
* Better support for SRV records in the SIP channel
More?
   

Better sip phone support for primary/secondary proxy (and failover)
(note: some phones don't support a second proxy at all; some say they
 do, but fail at it.)
Maybe some sort of HSRP (hot spare standby protocol, or whatever)

Some form of dynamic config sharing between pri/sec systems

Won't mention external pstn line failover as that's sort of a separate
 topic, or loss of calls in flight, etc.
I'd guess part of the five-9's discussion centers around how automated
must one be to be able to actually get close?  If one assumes the loss
of a SIMM the answer/effort certainly is different then assuming the 
loss of a single interface card (when multiples exist), etc.

I would doubt that anyone reading this list actually have a justifiable
business requirement for five-9's given the expontential cost/effort
involved to get there. But, setting some sort of reasonable goal
that would focus towards failover within xx number of seconds (and
maybe some other conditions) seems very practical. 

 

A failover system does not solve the scalability issue.. which means 
that you have a full server sitting there doing nothing most of the time 
when if the load were being balanced across the servers in a cluster 
senario you would also have the scalability..

Also a failover system would typically only be 2 servers, if there were 
a cluster system there could be 10 servers in which case five 9's should 
be easy..

Later..

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk, enterprise edition (New subject)

2004-01-04 Thread Nick Bachmann
 On Sun, 2004-01-04 at 12:53, Nick Bachmann wrote:
 Yes, I've played with it a bit.  It's pretty simplistic... the
 clustering just keeps several servers in sync with each other.  I
 suppose that would be easy to do with Asterisk, especially if
 configuration data was stored in a RDBMS that could do replication.
 Even now, setting up a copy/reload routine isn't difficult.

 A database doesn't make this easier. I would suggest you look into a
 revision control system and the ability to register
 applications/scripts to be run on check in of changes. Your benefit
 here is a quick roll out on hardware failure, plus roll back. You
 probably have seen people doing mailings based on CVS check ins, you
 could have those trigger a script on the clients that pulled fresh
 copies and did a reload. Fairly simple over all.

Yes, agree that CVS works well for this (that's how I manage my stuff).  I
like a RDBMSs for this kind of work, though, because the replication works
well and they are much faster than text files when you've got lots of
data.  Rolling back transactions is also pretty simple with most
databases, but I agree CVS is easier in this regard.
 It also seems that if you had a load balancer set up in front of your
 * servers to balance the call requests, you'd have enough clustering
 to keep one failure from taking down the whole system. Since the load
 balancer keeps an affinity table (and monitors to make sure the
 servers aren't going down) all VoIP connections could end up at the
 same * box once they had been allocated, unless a server goes down, in
 which case the call probably gets dropped. Any planned downtime could
 be made without any disruptions, since you could stop the load
 balancer from allocating any more connections to the * box and use
 'stop when convenient' to wait for all current calls to end.

 The problem here is that you do have a single point of failure, the
 load balancer. It would be better to have multiple machines that you

That's why you buy a load balancer with its own redundancy :-).  The
Allied Telesyn SB series, for example, have two system controllers.  Cisco
stuff is probably similar.  The ATI stuff says about 30 seconds of
downtime when one SC fails, I would guess Cisco delivers less.
 selectively placed as primary and backup in your VoIP phones. It isn't
 true load balancing, but it does allow you only loose a specific amount
 of calls in progress at any time if a machine fails. Calls could then
 be picked up and restarted via the other machine. This would give fault
 tolerance, and would give the impression of having 5 9's as long as the
 failures are sufficiently spaced out.

I remind you that close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and
nuclear weapons, and not with my users' uptime :-).
Nick


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] OT: Anyone going to Open Source Telephony Summit in Geilenkirchen from North Germany?

2004-01-04 Thread Peer Oliver schmidt
Craig Waddington wrote:
anyone from northern germany planning to go to 
http://www.guug.de/veranstaltungen/telephony-summit-2004/
Thanks for the info.  I would like to go.

Is it in German or English?
According to the site mostly english.

rgds
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Hardware to build an Enterprise AsteriskUniversal Gateway

2004-01-04 Thread James Sharp
 Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
I would set the Enterprise Class bar at five 9's reliability
(about 5.25 minutes per year of down time) the same
as a Class 4/5 phone switch. This would require redundant
design considerations in both hardware and software.


 To turn around, let's discuss what we need to focus on to get
 Asterisk there:

 Here's a few bullet points, there's certainly a lot more
 * Linux platform stability - how?

 Even more than Linux itself is the x86 platform... I've thought about this
 a bit when considering * boxes for big customers.  When one actually comes
 along, I'll have to actually make a decision :-).
From where I stand, the best thing to do for smaller customers is give
 them a box with RAID and redundant power supplies, if they can afford it.

You can overcome most of those problems by buying good quality hardware. 
If you buy your * server from your local Taiwanese clone shop, you're
asking for trouble.  A big, beefy machine from Dell would be better.

 But if I were to have a big customer with deep pockets, I'd really like *
 on a big Sun beast with redundant-everything (i.e. you can hot swap any
 component and there's usually n+1 of everything).  The problem is that I
 don't think there's any Solaris support for Digium cards, since it's kind
 of  a chicken-and-egg problem.

Nope.  No Solaris support, but you might be able to get away with
Linux/Solaris...but then you lose a lot of the hot-swapability.  In my
experience, though, the only things I've ever been able to hotswap were
power supplies and hard drives...and thats not software/os dependant.

 One of these days, I may convince myself to buy a modern Sun box (maybe
 the ~$1000 Blade 100s) and see what can be done.  The only problem I could
 conceive would be endian-ness, but I read about Digium cards in a PowerPC
 box, so that won't be a problem, right?
 Nick

Endian-ness is really only a driver issue.  Its when programmers who
believe that the world revolves around Linux/i386 that you have problems.

Personally, I'd stick my Digium cards into an Alpha of some sort.  A
DS-10L for 1U mounting with 1 card or a DS-20 for multiple cards where you
need lots of processor zoobs.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] help - recording both sides of a conversation

2004-01-04 Thread John Baker
Iain -

First off, all of this is heavily borrowed from others.  For those who see
their code embedded here, I thank you and give you full credit.

Here's how I do it.  It's a bit convoluted, but I didn't want to record
everything.  So, if a call comes in and I want to record it, I send it here:

[ext-surrept]
exten = _57XXX,1,Answer
exten = _57XXX,2,Macro(record-enable)
exten = _57XXX,3,BackGround(for-quality-purposes)
exten = _57XXX,4,BackGround(this-call-may-be)
exten = _57XXX,5,BackGround(recorded)
exten = _57XXX,6,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN:1},120,tm)
exten = _57XXX,7,Macro(rg-inbound,10,tr)
exten = _57XXX,8,Goto(aa-nooneavail,s,1)

By transferring a call to 5 + the extension I'm at, I enable the call
recording, let the caller know he might be recorded and then send the call
right back to myself.

Here's the Macro:

[macro-record-enable]
exten = s,1,AGI(set-timestamp.agi)
exten = s,2,SetVar(CALLFILENAME=${timestamp}-${CALLERIDNUM}-${MACRO_EXTEN})
exten = s,3,Monitor(wav,${CALLFILENAME})

It starts the recording and calls set-timestamp.agi

Here's the agi file:

#!/bin/sh
longtime=`date +%Y%m%d-%H%M%S`
echo SET VARIABLE timestamp $longtime

It sets a timestamp, which if you scour the asterisk list, you'll see that
it is necessary for mixing the in and out audio later.

I have one hangup extension set for my internal phones; it looks like this:

exten = h,1,Macro(record-cleanup)

And the record-cleanup macro looks like this:

[macro-record-cleanup]
exten = s,1,SetVar(MONITORDIR=/var/spool/asterisk/monitor)
exten = s,2,GotoIf($[${CALLFILENAME} = ${FOO}]?6:3)
exten = s,3,System(/usr/scripts/mix_monitor_files.pl ${MONITORDIR}
${CALLFILENAME}-in.wav ${CALLFILENAME}-out.wav ${CALLFILENAME}.wav)
exten = s,6,NoOp

Don't forget to make the /var/spool/asterisk/monitor directory!

Finally, mix_monitor_files.pl does the mixing job and combines the in and
out files:

#!/usr/bin/perl

$monitordir = shift;
$infile = shift;
$outfile = shift;
$finishfile = shift;

chdir($monitordir);


$infile_output = `sox $infile -e stat 21`;
$outfile_output = `sox $outfile -e stat 21`;

$infile_output =~ /Samples read:\s+(\d+)/;
$infile_samples = $1;

$outfile_output =~ /Samples read:\s+(\d+)/;
$outfile_samples = $1;


if($outfile_samples  $infile_samples)
 {
 $diff_samples = $outfile_samples - $infile_samples;
 system(sox -v 3 $outfile temp${outfile} trim ${diff_samples}s);
 system(wmix $infile temp${outfile}  $finishfile);
 system(rm -f $infile temp${outfile} $outfile);
 }
elsif($infile_samples  $outfile_samples)
 {
 $diff_samples = $infile_samples - $outfile_samples;
 system(sox -v 3 $infile temp${infile} trim  ${diff_samples}s);
 system(wmix temp${infile} $outfile  $finishfile);
 system(rm -f temp${infile} $outfile $infile);
 }
else
 {
 system(wmix $infile $outfile  $finishfile);
 system(rm -f $infile $outfile);
 }


You'll need wmix from http://tph.tuwien.ac.at/~oemer/wavetools.html  and
sox, which was already on my system and is pretty standard.

The only problem I've found is that my in channel is a bit low, with respect
to volume.  It's probably a sox issue, but I haven't had time to mess with
the settings yet.  It's only an annoyance; you can definitely hear both
sides of the conversation.

John

P.S. I record my outbound calls by prefixing my outbound calls with a 5,
which similiarly call record-enable.  In that case, the other party doesn't
know they're being recorded.  IANAL.  Check your state laws first!  In some
states both parties must know about calls being recorded.  In mine, TX, only
the calling party must know, but it must be first person.  For this reason,
I do not let asterisk record everything, because my employees must
themselves determine what they're going to record.


- Original Message - 
From: Iain Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] help - recording both sides of a conversation



 *  always records both sides of the conversation - but stores them in
 separate files in
 /var/spool/asterisk/monitor/.  You need to combine the in and out
parts
 using soxmix.

   Iain



 --On Sunday, January 4, 2004 9:59 am -0800 Paul Mahler
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Does some kind Asterisk soul have an example from extensions.conf that
  shows how to record both sides of a conversation?
 
  Thanks!
 
 
  Paul Mahler
  mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  phone: 650.207.9855
  fax: 877.408.0105
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Philipp von
  Klitzing
  Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 9:23 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] CAPI, transfering thru a 2nd PBX - keep
  original CallerID
 
  Hi!
 
  I want to have Asterisk as my gateway to the outside world and use
  another PBX to connect my existing phones.
 
  exten = ${OUTSIDEMSN},1,Dial,CAPI/${MSN2NDPBX}:${EXTEN}
 
  How do I transfer the 

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Hardware to build an Enterprise AsteriskUniversal Gateway

2004-01-04 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Sun, 2004-01-04 at 13:28, WipeOut wrote:
 Steven Critchfield wrote:
 
 On Sun, 2004-01-04 at 10:14, Doug Shubert wrote:
   
 
 I would set the Enterprise Class bar at five 9's reliability
 (about 5.25 minutes per year of down time) the same
 as a Class 4/5 phone switch. This would require redundant
 design considerations in both hardware and software.
 
 In our network, Linux is approaching
 Enterprise Class and I don't see why *
 could not achieve this in the near future.
 
 
 
 I may be wrong, but I think the 5 9's relates to full system not to
 individual pieces especially when talking about a class4/5 switch. On a
 small scale deployment, that will be a problem as you won't implement
 full redundancy. Redundancy adds quite a bit to the cost of your
 deployment. 
 
 As far as linux goes, it is at that level if you put forth the effort to
 make it's environment decent. I have multiple machines approaching 2
 years of uptime, and many over a year of uptime. I have not had a
 machine in my colo space go down since we removed the one machine with a
 buggy NIC.
 
 So next step, is asterisk. Outside of a couple of deadlocks from kernel
 problems when I was compiling new modules, I haven't had asterisk knock
 over while doing normal calls.
 
 The downtime could have been dealt with by having some redundancy in the
 physical lines. I would have lost the calls on the line, but the calls
 could be reconnected immediately. 
 
 I can say up front that I have asterisk installs running multiple months
 without problems. 
   
 
 Steven,
 
 You often mention your servers uptime, I am assuming you don't count 
 reboots since you must have had to patch your kernel at least a few 
 times in the last year and the reboot would have reset your uptime..

Why do you assume I would have to patch a kernel? Not all machines must
run the most current kernels, and some kernels can be such that they are
sufficiently minimal enough to present low risk. Plus all the recent
problems require a local user to exploit. I subscribe to the theory to
only give access to critical machines to people I can quickly level a
shotgun to their head. With that knowledge, and my users acknowledgment
or witness to my accuracy, they don't wish to screw with the systems. 

BTW, my accuracy goes up with the number of concurrent targets by about
4 percent. 

 If that is the case then I have a server that is also around the 2 year 
 uptime mark.. The longest single runtime between reboots for updated 
 kernels is only 127 days.. :)

I have 2 machines at this moment that are halfway to looping the uptime
counter again at 497 days.

Webserver is at 497 + 197 days
Old almost decommissioned file server is at 497 + 194 days
A VPN machine is at 414 days
DB server is at 245 days
A almost decommissioned distro server is at 497 + 165 days


due to some upgrades, I now have fewer machines holding high uptimes. My
mail server was updated just over 2 months ago and it was swapped to the
distro server. So the distro server that is about to be decommissioned
is really just waiting for me to go take it out of the rack. 

Those are real uptimes with no reboots. What makes those 4 machines with
more than a year uptime interesting is that 1 is a dell, one is a
supermicro, the other 2 are homebuilt systems. So I can attest to x86
being able to be stable. Maybe not always, and I would like some more
swappable parts.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Hardware to build an Enterprise AsteriskUniversalGateway

2004-01-04 Thread Doug Shubert
Perhaps I was being somewhat ambitious by posting five 9's for
Enterprise Class

using a three tiered approach,

five 9's (5.25 min. per year) for Carrier Class
four 9's (52.56 min. per year) for Enterprise Class
three 9's (8.76 hrs. per year) for User/SOHO Class

each Class having specific requirements of hardware, software, network
and power redundancy.

I presume this is needed to deliver an Service Level Agreement (SLA).



Olle E. Johansson wrote:

 Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
 I would set the Enterprise Class bar at five 9's reliability
 (about 5.25 minutes per year of down time) the same
 as a Class 4/5 phone switch. This would require redundant
 design considerations in both hardware and software.
 

 To turn around, let's discuss what we need to focus on to get
 Asterisk there:

 Here's a few bullet points, there's certainly a lot more
 * Linux platform stability - how?
 ** Special demands when using Zaptel cards
 * Redundancy architecture
 * Development/stable release scheme

 Then we have some channel demands, like
 * Better support for SRV records in the SIP channel

 More?

 /O

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Hardware to build an Enterprise AsteriskUniversal Gateway

2004-01-04 Thread Nick Bachmann
 Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
I would set the Enterprise Class bar at five 9's reliability
(about 5.25 minutes per year of down time) the same
as a Class 4/5 phone switch. This would require redundant
design considerations in both hardware and software.


 To turn around, let's discuss what we need to focus on to get
 Asterisk there:

 Here's a few bullet points, there's certainly a lot more
 * Linux platform stability - how?

 Even more than Linux itself is the x86 platform... I've thought about
 this a bit when considering * boxes for big customers.  When one
 actually comes along, I'll have to actually make a decision :-).
From where I stand, the best thing to do for smaller customers is give
 them a box with RAID and redundant power supplies, if they can afford
 it.

 You can overcome most of those problems by buying good quality
 hardware.  If you buy your * server from your local Taiwanese clone
 shop, you're asking for trouble.  A big, beefy machine from Dell would
 be better.

Yeah, but nothing like a nice, big Sun machine.  A cluster of Dell
machines is reliable, but a midrange Sun box puts them to shame.
 But if I were to have a big customer with deep pockets, I'd really
 like * on a big Sun beast with redundant-everything (i.e. you can hot
 swap any component and there's usually n+1 of everything).  The
 problem is that I don't think there's any Solaris support for Digium
 cards, since it's kind of  a chicken-and-egg problem.

 Nope.  No Solaris support, but you might be able to get away with
 Linux/Solaris...but then you lose a lot of the hot-swapability.  In my
 experience, though, the only things I've ever been able to hotswap were
 power supplies and hard drives...and thats not software/os dependant.

With the big boxes like the 4800, you can hot swap CPUs and memory and
such as well.  You're right that all that stuff is pretty
Solaris-dependent, which is why I wanted to see if I couldn't get Asterisk
to run on a little Solaris machine (and then sell it to people who own the
big ones).
 One of these days, I may convince myself to buy a modern Sun box
 (maybe the ~$1000 Blade 100s) and see what can be done.  The only
 problem I could conceive would be endian-ness, but I read about Digium
 cards in a PowerPC box, so that won't be a problem, right?
 Nick

 Endian-ness is really only a driver issue.  Its when programmers who
 believe that the world revolves around Linux/i386 that you have
 problems.

But it can also be a problem if you have on-card firmware, I've heard.

 Personally, I'd stick my Digium cards into an Alpha of some sort.  A
 DS-10L for 1U mounting with 1 card or a DS-20 for multiple cards where
 you need lots of processor zoobs.

I like the Alphas too, but they're being discontinued last I heard, and
being replaced with the Itanium.  Even VMS is being ported (now _there's_
an OS for * :-)
Nick


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] help - recording both sides of a conversation

2004-01-04 Thread Brian West
you nolonger need set-timestamp.agi as we have ${TIMESTAMP} in that format
by default now.

bkw

On Sun, 4 Jan 2004, John Baker wrote:

 Iain -

 First off, all of this is heavily borrowed from others.  For those who see
 their code embedded here, I thank you and give you full credit.

 Here's how I do it.  It's a bit convoluted, but I didn't want to record
 everything.  So, if a call comes in and I want to record it, I send it here:

 [ext-surrept]
 exten = _57XXX,1,Answer
 exten = _57XXX,2,Macro(record-enable)
 exten = _57XXX,3,BackGround(for-quality-purposes)
 exten = _57XXX,4,BackGround(this-call-may-be)
 exten = _57XXX,5,BackGround(recorded)
 exten = _57XXX,6,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN:1},120,tm)
 exten = _57XXX,7,Macro(rg-inbound,10,tr)
 exten = _57XXX,8,Goto(aa-nooneavail,s,1)

 By transferring a call to 5 + the extension I'm at, I enable the call
 recording, let the caller know he might be recorded and then send the call
 right back to myself.

 Here's the Macro:

 [macro-record-enable]
 exten = s,1,AGI(set-timestamp.agi)
 exten = s,2,SetVar(CALLFILENAME=${timestamp}-${CALLERIDNUM}-${MACRO_EXTEN})
 exten = s,3,Monitor(wav,${CALLFILENAME})

 It starts the recording and calls set-timestamp.agi

 Here's the agi file:

 #!/bin/sh
 longtime=`date +%Y%m%d-%H%M%S`
 echo SET VARIABLE timestamp $longtime

 It sets a timestamp, which if you scour the asterisk list, you'll see that
 it is necessary for mixing the in and out audio later.

 I have one hangup extension set for my internal phones; it looks like this:

 exten = h,1,Macro(record-cleanup)

 And the record-cleanup macro looks like this:

 [macro-record-cleanup]
 exten = s,1,SetVar(MONITORDIR=/var/spool/asterisk/monitor)
 exten = s,2,GotoIf($[${CALLFILENAME} = ${FOO}]?6:3)
 exten = s,3,System(/usr/scripts/mix_monitor_files.pl ${MONITORDIR}
 ${CALLFILENAME}-in.wav ${CALLFILENAME}-out.wav ${CALLFILENAME}.wav)
 exten = s,6,NoOp

 Don't forget to make the /var/spool/asterisk/monitor directory!

 Finally, mix_monitor_files.pl does the mixing job and combines the in and
 out files:

 #!/usr/bin/perl

 $monitordir = shift;
 $infile = shift;
 $outfile = shift;
 $finishfile = shift;

 chdir($monitordir);


 $infile_output = `sox $infile -e stat 21`;
 $outfile_output = `sox $outfile -e stat 21`;

 $infile_output =~ /Samples read:\s+(\d+)/;
 $infile_samples = $1;

 $outfile_output =~ /Samples read:\s+(\d+)/;
 $outfile_samples = $1;


 if($outfile_samples  $infile_samples)
  {
  $diff_samples = $outfile_samples - $infile_samples;
  system(sox -v 3 $outfile temp${outfile} trim ${diff_samples}s);
  system(wmix $infile temp${outfile}  $finishfile);
  system(rm -f $infile temp${outfile} $outfile);
  }
 elsif($infile_samples  $outfile_samples)
  {
  $diff_samples = $infile_samples - $outfile_samples;
  system(sox -v 3 $infile temp${infile} trim  ${diff_samples}s);
  system(wmix temp${infile} $outfile  $finishfile);
  system(rm -f temp${infile} $outfile $infile);
  }
 else
  {
  system(wmix $infile $outfile  $finishfile);
  system(rm -f $infile $outfile);
  }


 You'll need wmix from http://tph.tuwien.ac.at/~oemer/wavetools.html  and
 sox, which was already on my system and is pretty standard.

 The only problem I've found is that my in channel is a bit low, with respect
 to volume.  It's probably a sox issue, but I haven't had time to mess with
 the settings yet.  It's only an annoyance; you can definitely hear both
 sides of the conversation.

 John

 P.S. I record my outbound calls by prefixing my outbound calls with a 5,
 which similiarly call record-enable.  In that case, the other party doesn't
 know they're being recorded.  IANAL.  Check your state laws first!  In some
 states both parties must know about calls being recorded.  In mine, TX, only
 the calling party must know, but it must be first person.  For this reason,
 I do not let asterisk record everything, because my employees must
 themselves determine what they're going to record.


 - Original Message -
 From: Iain Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 12:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] help - recording both sides of a conversation


 
  *  always records both sides of the conversation - but stores them in
  separate files in
  /var/spool/asterisk/monitor/.  You need to combine the in and out
 parts
  using soxmix.
 
Iain
 
 
 
  --On Sunday, January 4, 2004 9:59 am -0800 Paul Mahler
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Does some kind Asterisk soul have an example from extensions.conf that
   shows how to record both sides of a conversation?
  
   Thanks!
  
  
   Paul Mahler
   mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   phone: 650.207.9855
   fax: 877.408.0105
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Philipp von
   Klitzing
   Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 9:23 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] CAPI, 

Re: [Asterisk-Users] New to asterisk? RUN... don't walk.

2004-01-04 Thread John Haigh
This is my favourite response to this post RUN... don't walk..

WELL SAID!

John Haigh

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From: asterisk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] New to asterisk? RUN... don't walk.





 Here's the deal:
 Asterisk is free. If we go with * we will save $50k.
 It does almost anything. I can make it open my garage door. My
 installation records all conversations and then archives them as
timestamped
 stereo MP3s. Our VB windows application can dial out with a click. All for
 free.
 It's not done. We are not at v1.0. Mr Spencer is a busy guy.
 It might not solve 'your' problem. We contracted the
AgentCallbackLogin
 Queue stuff. That part works great. If you want it modified or fixed, pay
 for it or do it yourself.
 If you change your own oil, do your own plumbing, have more that 3
 computers at home, or have [EMAIL PROTECTED] running, you are either a
 do-it-yourselfer or a geek. Asterisk might be for you. On the other hand,
if
 you can't change a lightbulb or don't know what a dipstick is and have
lots
 of money, then pay someone for a phone system.

 But please stop whining. I have 3 kids. Gettin' tired of it.

 Good day.


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 From: Me [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 2:37 PM
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] New to asterisk? RUN... don't walk.


  As a newcomer to Asterisk, you will not be welcomed
  with open arms.  First, you will find almost no
  documentation on it's features.  Second, if you try to
  ask questions, you will be flamed and pointed to
  worthless how-tos and 'the wiki'.  These worthless
  documents can only be useful for explaining how things
  work to those already in-the-know.  Lastly, Asterisk
  is so bug ridden, expect frequent segmentation faults.
   With a community so 'anti-n00b', don't expect your
  problems to be fixed anytime soon.
 
  RUN!!! Don't walk... away from Aterisk.
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie - getting two local phonestocommunicate would be a good start :)

2004-01-04 Thread John Coll
Dave

I note your suggestion you probably also want to disable gsm on the GS
phones themselves (just change the 723 entry in the list on the admin page
to a repeat of a 711

My GS phone has the following codec options: PCMU, PCMA, G.723.1, G729A/B,
G726-32, G728.

Half an hour's research and reading tells me that PCMU and PCMA are G.711.

Can you confirm Dave, that I should ONLY have PCMU and PCMA in all the six
options that GS provide for selecting codecs - or is it OK to have G.729A/B,
G.726-32 and G.728 but not to have G.723.1?

thanks

john

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Johansson
Sent: 04 January 2004 17:03
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie - getting two local
phonestocommunicate would be a good start :)


Mike Jagdis wrote:


 John Coll wrote:

 Dave

 You were right

 disallow=all
 allow=ulaw
 allow=alaw

 gave me two-way voice! Whew! Thanks a million.  I wonder if I really
 should
 have found that for myself ... I've added it to the voip-info.org wiki

 OK lets see if the next step is a bit easier :)

 thanks again all

 john


 Note that if you don't have canreinvite=no you probably also want to
 disable gsm on the GS phones themselves (just change the 723 entry in
 the list on the admin page to a repeat of a 711).

 Initially * negotiates each leg and relays packets. So the disallow
 and allow in *'s config works. If reinvite is enabled * then about
 10 seconds later the two end points will bounce SIP INVITES between
 each other and start sending packets direct. Since * isn't in on
 this negotiation the fact that it is configured to filter gsm out
 of the codec list is immaterial...

 I don't know if gsm actually works between GS phones or not, but it
 definitely doesn't to other stuff. They negotiate gsm fine but send
 gsm data to the rtp port and the GS phone replies with icmp errors.
 Non-gsm data is fine...
Added to
http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+phone+grandstream+budg
etone
Thank you!

Guess most of this also applies to the Handytone.
/O

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie - getting two local phonestocommunicate would be a good start :)

2004-01-04 Thread John Coll
Thanks to Dave I now have two Grandstream phones with a voice path. Yippee!

Wanting to learn from the experience I compared the sip debugs from before
and after adding the disallow=all, allow=ulaw, allow=alaw lines to sip.conf
to see what I should have noticed in the debug that would have pointed me
to the problem.

I see that during negotiation I got the following

Found audio format UNKN
Found audio format ALAW
Found audio format ULAW
Found audio format UNKN
Found audio format GSM
Found audio format UNKN
Found description format PCMU
Found description format PCMA
Found description format G723
Found description format G729
Found description format G726-32
Found description format G728
Capabilities: us - 524302, them - 285/0, combined - 12
Non-codec capabilities: us - 1, them - 0, combined - 0

Now why didn't asterisk and grandstream negotiate a common codec?
Why does only allowing ulaw and alaw work better than allowing everything?

That sounds to me as if one or other end is failing to negotiate correctly.

Interestingly if I remove both of the allow lines for both phones I get
*CLI WARNING[81926]: File chan_sip.c, Line 1954 (process_sdp): No
compatible codecs!
but the voice path works fine - perhaps using no compression???


In a FAQ I read:

Q What Codec should I use for my Granstream phone?
(http://www.grandstream.com/FAQ.htm#Q15)

A: By default, PCMU(G711u) will be used. Both PCMU and PCMA will give you
toll quality but their bandwidth consumption is also the highest (64kbps).
If your network bandwidth is low, you can choose other lower-bit-rate codec
such as G723 or G729 which will give you near toll quality at much smaller
bandwidth consumption (G723 consumes 5.3/6.3kbps and G729 consumes 8kbps).
If bandwidth is not a concern and you want good voice quality, try using
PCMU or PCMA, or even the new wide band codec G722 (64kbps) which will
provide hi-fidelity voice that is better than toll quality.


The phrase by default seems to imply that negotiation will sort out the
codecs.

Eduardo Goncalves seems to raise essentially the same issue on December 16,
2003, Re: [Asterisk-Users] codec negotiation but no answer seems to
emerge.

I've pretty much had enough of this problem so don't spend long on a
detailed response but I am curious to know why * and the GS phones failed to
negotiate the right codec. Is there a bug / incompatibility issue?

thanks
john




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: 03 January 2004 18:11
To: Asterisk List
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie - getting two local
phonestocommunicate would be a good start :)


On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 18:59, John Coll wrote:
 Dave

 You were right!


In the words of that welsh comedian I know because I was there.

As others have said there's a steep learning curve for *, but as one
who's climbed just some of it, I can say it's worth it.


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[Asterisk-Users] Newbie - MWI

2004-01-04 Thread John Coll
With help I got two phones communicating - PCMA/PCMU was the problem.

Next stpe is to try voicemail.  VM works fine, I can leave a mesage and then
retrieve it - but no MWI on the phone and no stutter dialtone.

I promise I've spent the requisite 4 hours + on google etc. but have really
no further ideas.

The setup is 2 Grandstream phones (latest firmware) and an asterisk on a
LAN. The cofig files I am using are shown below.  Any suggestions would be
appreciated.

john

-
;
; liza:/etc/asterisk/sip.conf
;
[general]
port = 5060
bindaddr = 0.0.0.0
externip = 10.0.1.198

[5702]
type=friend
host=dynamic
context=johnhome
reinvite=no
canreinvite=no
qualify=300
callerid=John workroom #1 5702
mailbox=5702
disallow=all
allow=ulaw
allow=alaw
; dtmfmode=rfc2834
dtmfmode=info
username=5702 ; not convinced this is needed
nat=yes


[5703]
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[Asterisk-Users] Newbie - MWI

2004-01-04 Thread John Coll
Sorry for the partial post a moment ago

With help I got two phones communicating - PCMA/PCMU was the problem.

Next stpe is to try voicemail.  VM works fine, I can leave a mesage and then
retrieve it - but no MWI on the phone and no stutter dialtone.

I promise I've spent the requisite 4 hours + on google etc. but have really
no further ideas.

The setup is 2 Grandstream phones (latest firmware) and an asterisk on a
LAN. The cofig files I am using are shown below.  Any suggestions would be
appreciated.

john

-
;
; liza:/etc/asterisk/sip.conf
;
[general]
port = 5060
bindaddr = 0.0.0.0
externip = 10.0.1.198

[5702]
type=friend
host=dynamic
context=johnhome
reinvite=no
canreinvite=no
qualify=300
callerid=John workroom #1 5702
mailbox=5702
disallow=all
allow=ulaw
allow=alaw
; dtmfmode=rfc2834
dtmfmode=info
username=5702 ; not convinced this is needed
nat=yes


[5703]
 same as above in effect

-
;
; liza:/etc/asterisk/extensions.conf
;
[general]
static=yes
writeprotect=no
;
[globals]
CONSOLE=Console/dsp

[johnhome]
exten = 5702,1,Dial(SIP/5702,20,Ttr)
exten = 5702,2,Voicemail(u5702)
exten = 5702,102,Voicemail(b5702)
exten = 5702,103,Hangup

exten = 5703,1,Dial(SIP/5703,20,Ttr)
exten = 5703,2,Voicemail(u5703)
exten = 5703,102,Voicemail(b5703)
exten = 5703,103,Hangup

exten = 88,1,VoicemailMain(${CALLERIDNUM})
-
;
; /etc/asterisk/voicemail.conf
;
[general]
format=wav49|gsm|wav

[johnhome]
5702 = 5702,John Coll,john
5703 = 5703,John Coll,john


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk, enterprise edition (New subject)

2004-01-04 Thread Philipp von Klitzing
Hi!

 The affinity table makes the RTP stuff OK, but I agree that sharing
 SIP registrations is a concern. 

These are stored in the Asterisk DB. Type this at your CLI:
   database show SIP/Registry

Consequently it shouldn't be a a problem to sync the registry data.

Cheers, Philipp


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie - MWI

2004-01-04 Thread Olle E. Johansson
John Coll wrote:
With help I got two phones communicating - PCMA/PCMU was the problem.

Next stpe is to try voicemail.  VM works fine, I can leave a mesage and then
retrieve it - but no MWI on the phone and no stutter dialtone.
I promise I've spent the requisite 4 hours + on google etc. but have really
no further ideas.
The setup is 2 Grandstream phones (latest firmware) and an asterisk on a
LAN. The cofig files I am using are shown below.  Any suggestions would be
appreciated.
...and voicemail.conf + extensions.conf ?
Only sip.conf can't help us debugging for you.
Try again!
/O

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Hardware to build an Enterprise AsteriskUniversal Gateway

2004-01-04 Thread Rich Adamson

 I'd guess part of the five-9's discussion centers around how automated
 must one be to be able to actually get close?  If one assumes the loss
 of a SIMM the answer/effort certainly is different then assuming the 
 loss of a single interface card (when multiples exist), etc.
 
 I would doubt that anyone reading this list actually have a justifiable
 business requirement for five-9's given the expontential cost/effort
 involved to get there. But, setting some sort of reasonable goal
 that would focus towards failover within xx number of seconds (and
 maybe some other conditions) seems very practical. 
 
   
 
 A failover system does not solve the scalability issue.. which means 
 that you have a full server sitting there doing nothing most of the time 
 when if the load were being balanced across the servers in a cluster 
 senario you would also have the scalability..
 
 Also a failover system would typically only be 2 servers, if there were 
 a cluster system there could be 10 servers in which case five 9's should 
 be easy..

Everyone's response to Olle's proposition are of value including yours.

For those that have been involved with analyzing the requirments to
achive five-9's (for anything), there are tons of approaches, and each 
approach comes with some sort of cost/benefit trade off. Once the approaches
have been documented and costs associated with them, it's common for
the original requirements to be redefined in terms of something that is
more realistic in business terms. Whether that is clustering, hot standby,
or another approach is largely irrelavent at the beginning of the process.

If you're a sponsor of clustering and your forced to use canreinvite=no, 
lots of people would be unhappy when their RTP system died. I'm not
suggesting clustering is a bad choice, only suggesting there are lots
of cost/benefit trade-offs that are made on an individual basis and there
might be more then one answer to reliability/uptime question.

In an earlier post, you mentioned a single IP address issue. That's really
not an issue in some cases as a virtual IP (within a cluster) may be
perfectly fine (canreinvite=yes), etc. Pure guess is that use of a virtual
IP forces some other design choices like the need for a layer-3 box
(since virtual IP's won't fix layer-2 problems), and probably revisiting
RTP standards. (And, if we only have one layer-3 box, guess we need to get
another for uptime, etc, etc.)

Since hardware has become increasingly more reliable, infrastructure items
less expensive, uptimes moving towards larger numbers, software more
reliable (in very general terms over years), using a hot spare approach
could be just as effective as a two-box cluster. In both cases, part of
the problem boils down to assumptions about external interfaces and how
to move those interfaces between two or more boxes; and, what design
requirements one states regardling calls in progress.

(Olle, are you watching?)

1. Moving a physical interface (whether a T1, ethernet or 2-wire pstn) is 
mostly trevial, however what signal is needed to detect a system failure 
and move the physical connection to a second machine/interface? (If there 
are three systems in a cluster, what signal is needed? If a three-way 
switch is reqquired, does someone want to design, build, and sell it to 
users? Any need to discuss a four-way switch? Should there be a single
switch that flip-flops all three at the same time (T1, Ethernet, pstn)?)

Since protecting calls in progress (under all circumstances and 
configurations) is likely the most expensive and most difficult to achive,
we can probably all agree that handling this should be left to some
future long-range plan. Is that acceptable to everyone?

2. In a hot-spare arrangement (single primary, single running secondary),
what static and/or dynamic information needs to be shared across the
two systems to maintain the best chance of switching to the secondary
system in the shortest period of time, and while minimizing the loss of
business data? (Should this same data be shared across all systems in
a cluster if the cluster consists of two or more machines?)

3. If a clustered environment, is clustering based on IP address or MAC
address?
   a. If based on an IP address, is a layer-3 box required between * and
  sip phones? (If so, how many?)
   b. If based on MAC address, what process moves an active * MAC address
  to a another * machine (to maintain connectivity to sip phones)?
   c. Should sessions that rely on a failed machine in a cluster simply
  be dropped?
   d. Are there any realistic ways to recover RTP sessions in a clustered
  environment when a single machine within the cluster fails, and RTP
  sessions were flowing through it (canreinvite=no)?
   e. Should a sip phone's arp cache timeout be configurable?
   f. Which system(s) control the physical switch in #1 above?
   g. Is sharing static/dynamic operational data across some sort of
  high-availability 

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie - MWI

2004-01-04 Thread Paul Liew

- Original Message - 
From: John Coll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:07 AM
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie - MWI


 Sorry for the partial post a moment ago

 With help I got two phones communicating - PCMA/PCMU was the problem.

 Next stpe is to try voicemail.  VM works fine, I can leave a mesage and
then
 retrieve it - but no MWI on the phone and no stutter dialtone.

 I promise I've spent the requisite 4 hours + on google etc. but have
really
 no further ideas.

 The setup is 2 Grandstream phones (latest firmware) and an asterisk on a
 LAN. The cofig files I am using are shown below.  Any suggestions would be
 appreciated.

 john

 -
 ;
 ; liza:/etc/asterisk/sip.conf
 ;
 [general]
 port = 5060
 bindaddr = 0.0.0.0
 externip = 10.0.1.198

 [5702]
 type=friend
 host=dynamic
 context=johnhome
 reinvite=no
 canreinvite=no
 qualify=300
 callerid=John workroom #1 5702
 mailbox=5702
 disallow=all
 allow=ulaw
 allow=alaw
 ; dtmfmode=rfc2834
 dtmfmode=info
 username=5702 ; not convinced this is needed
 nat=yes


 [5703]
  same as above in effect

 -
 ;
 ; liza:/etc/asterisk/extensions.conf
 ;
 [general]
 static=yes
 writeprotect=no
 ;
 [globals]
 CONSOLE=Console/dsp

 [johnhome]
 exten = 5702,1,Dial(SIP/5702,20,Ttr)
 exten = 5702,2,Voicemail(u5702)
 exten = 5702,102,Voicemail(b5702)
 exten = 5702,103,Hangup

 exten = 5703,1,Dial(SIP/5703,20,Ttr)
 exten = 5703,2,Voicemail(u5703)
 exten = 5703,102,Voicemail(b5703)
 exten = 5703,103,Hangup

 exten = 88,1,VoicemailMain(${CALLERIDNUM})
 -
 ;
 ; /etc/asterisk/voicemail.conf
 ;
 [general]
 format=wav49|gsm|wav

 [johnhome]
 5702 = 5702,John Coll,john
 5703 = 5703,John Coll,john


John,

You have your voicemail within the johnhome context, so for your sip
config, your phone entry for voicemail should be [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Grandstream Early Dial

2004-01-04 Thread Aaron Martin
Where / how do I set DTMF payload type to 101?

- Original Message - 
From: Josh Roberson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 3:17 PM
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Grandstream Early Dial


 I've never had early dial working, however, I resolved my multiple digit
 issue by simply putting both the GS phones and asterisk in INFO mode.
 This worked on both 10.0.3.81 firmware on the budgetone and the ATA286,
 as well as 10.0.4.30 firmware.  I'm not saying I don't believe you, but
 doubelcheck your lines in asterisk to be dtmfmode=info and the gs
 devices are on SIP INFO method, and your DTMF Payload type is 101.
 
 Just my $.02
 
 --
 Josh Roberson
 Indigent Networks
 1.877.677.9647 x1
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen R. Besch
  Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 12:59 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Grandstream Early Dial
  
  
   I've just checked my voicemail with 1.0.4.30 and get the same
 multiple
   digits problem. sip.conf and GS config are both at info, for me this
 is
   a new problem voicemail has always worked perfectly with the GS.
  
  This has come up many times in this list, with no consensus for a
  solution.  According to Grandstream, the multiple digit problem
 arises
  from a difference in the interpretation of the SIP standard. I'm not
  sure I really understand this, so no flames please, but, paraphrasing
 a
  conversation I had with GS, apparently they retransmit the digit as
 long
  as the key is pressed and expect asterisk to know that it is a
  re-transmission by examining other data in the packet. Asterisk does
 not
  handle the SIP packet in the way GS expects, resulting in multiple
 digit
  transmission. This flaw (?) is avoided by setting DTMF to INBAND.  Why
  this behaviour is not repeatable on everyones installations escapes
 me.
  However, I have noticed one thing that may be a clue. I have one phone
  that is older hardware (redial button instead of send and an unused
  battery compartment on the bottom). This phone behaves differently
 than
  all the other, later, models.  For example, it is the only phone on
  which the flash button actually works to answer the alternate line (eg
  when an incoming call waiting call arrives). All phones are using 3.81
  firmware.
  
Early dial has never worked for me, and I just upgraded to the
1.0.4.30 load yesterday. Now, I am having DTMF recognition issues,
making it impossible to check my voice mail.
  
  This is an acknowleged bug on the GS.  They have connected to my *
  server and acknowleged the problem. A fix has been promised but not
 yet
  delivered.  Until then, the only solution is to turn early dial off
 and
  let the phone send the entire dial string in one packet.  Since this
  does not affect later single digit transmission for IVR's, etc, the
 only
  consequence is the irritating delay between the last entered digit and
  the actual placing of the call. But, you can always hit the send key.
  
  Stephen R. Besch
  
  
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Hardware to build an Enterprise AsteriskUniversal Gateway

2004-01-04 Thread James Sharp
 1. Moving a physical interface (whether a T1, ethernet or 2-wire pstn) is
 mostly trevial, however what signal is needed to detect a system failure
 and move the physical connection to a second machine/interface? (If there
 are three systems in a cluster, what signal is needed? If a three-way
 switch is reqquired, does someone want to design, build, and sell it to
 users? Any need to discuss a four-way switch? Should there be a single
 switch that flip-flops all three at the same time (T1, Ethernet, pstn)?)

Simple idea:  Have a process on each machine pulse a lead-state (something
a s simple as DTR out a serial port or a single data line on a parallel
port) out to an external box.  This box is strictly discrete hardware and
built with timeout that is retriggered by the pulse.  When the pulse fails
to arrive, the box switches the T1 over to the backup system.


 Since protecting calls in progress (under all circumstances and
 configurations) is likely the most expensive and most difficult to achive,
 we can probably all agree that handling this should be left to some
 future long-range plan. Is that acceptable to everyone?

Its going to be almost impossible to preserve calls in progress.  If you
switch a T1 from one machine to the other, there's going to either going
to be a lack of sync (ISDN D-channels need to come up, RBS channels need
to wink) that's going to result in the loss of the call.

 2. In a hot-spare arrangement (single primary, single running secondary),
 what static and/or dynamic information needs to be shared across the
 two systems to maintain the best chance of switching to the secondary
 system in the shortest period of time, and while minimizing the loss of
 business data? (Should this same data be shared across all systems in
 a cluster if the cluster consists of two or more machines?)

 3. If a clustered environment, is clustering based on IP address or MAC
 address?
a. If based on an IP address, is a layer-3 box required between * and
   sip phones? (If so, how many?)

Yes.  You'll need something like Linux Virtual Server or an F5 load
balancing box to make this happen.  You can play silly games with round
robin DNS, but it doesn't handle failure well.

b. If based on MAC address, what process moves an active * MAC address
   to a another * machine (to maintain connectivity to sip phones)?

Something like Ultra Monkey (http://www.ultramonkey.org)

c. Should sessions that rely on a failed machine in a cluster simply
   be dropped?
d. Are there any realistic ways to recover RTP sessions in a clustered
   environment when a single machine within the cluster fails, and RTP
   sessions were flowing through it (canreinvite=no)?
e. Should a sip phone's arp cache timeout be configurable?

Shouldn't need to worry about that unless the phone is on the same
physical network segment.

f. Which system(s) control the physical switch in #1 above?

A voting system...all systems control it.  It is up to the switch to
decide who isn't working right.

g. Is sharing static/dynamic operational data across some sort of
   high-availability hsrp channel acceptable, or, should two or more
   database servers be deployed?

DB Server clustering is a fairly solid technology these days.  Deploy a DB
cluster if you want.

 4. If a firewall/nat box is involved, what are the requirements to detect
and handle a failed * machine?
a. Are the requirements different for hot-spare vs clustering?
b. What if the firewall is an inexpensive device (eg, Linksys) with
   minimal configuration options?
c. Are the nat requirements within * different for clustering?

 5. Should sip phones be configurable with a primary and secondary proxy?
a. If the primary proxy fails, what determines when a sip phone fails
   over to the secondary proxy?

Usually a simple timeout works for this..but if your clustering/hot-spare
switch works right...the client should never need to change.


b. After fail over to the secondary, what determines when the sip phone
   should switch back to the primary proxy? (Is the primary ready to
   handle production calls, or is it back ready for a system admin to
   diagnose the original problem in a non-production manner?)

Auto switch-back is never a good thing.  Once a system is taken out of
service by an automated monitoring system, it should be up to human
intervention to say that it is ready to go back into service.


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[Asterisk-Users] Cisco 12sp+ program update

2004-01-04 Thread Rohde



does anyone have a running cisco12sp+ or 30 
vip phone on their network?
and if so could you also tell me what tftp files 
you actually use and if there are any special settings in skinny.conf that i 
need?
(I ran several searches for setup, nothing has come 
up so far so i'll ask for advice now.)

Thanks
Rohde


[Asterisk-Users] Voicepulse DID fast busy

2004-01-04 Thread Steve Totaro



I just signed up for Voicepulse with a DID. I 
can register with Voicepulse and dialout just fine. Only problem is that 
when I dial my DID from my POTS line I just get a fast busy and nothing in the 
console. 

Any ideas?


RE: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie - MWI

2004-01-04 Thread John Coll
Thanks Paul very much!

john

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Sent: 04 January 2004 22:32
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie - MWI



- Original Message -
From: John Coll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:07 AM
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie - MWI


 Sorry for the partial post a moment ago

 With help I got two phones communicating - PCMA/PCMU was the problem.

 Next stpe is to try voicemail.  VM works fine, I can leave a mesage and
then
 retrieve it - but no MWI on the phone and no stutter dialtone.

 I promise I've spent the requisite 4 hours + on google etc. but have
really
 no further ideas.

 The setup is 2 Grandstream phones (latest firmware) and an asterisk on a
 LAN. The cofig files I am using are shown below.  Any suggestions would be
 appreciated.

 john

 -
 ;
 ; liza:/etc/asterisk/sip.conf
 ;
 [general]
 port = 5060
 bindaddr = 0.0.0.0
 externip = 10.0.1.198

 [5702]
 type=friend
 host=dynamic
 context=johnhome
 reinvite=no
 canreinvite=no
 qualify=300
 callerid=John workroom #1 5702
 mailbox=5702
 disallow=all
 allow=ulaw
 allow=alaw
 ; dtmfmode=rfc2834
 dtmfmode=info
 username=5702 ; not convinced this is needed
 nat=yes


 [5703]
  same as above in effect

 -
 ;
 ; liza:/etc/asterisk/extensions.conf
 ;
 [general]
 static=yes
 writeprotect=no
 ;
 [globals]
 CONSOLE=Console/dsp

 [johnhome]
 exten = 5702,1,Dial(SIP/5702,20,Ttr)
 exten = 5702,2,Voicemail(u5702)
 exten = 5702,102,Voicemail(b5702)
 exten = 5702,103,Hangup

 exten = 5703,1,Dial(SIP/5703,20,Ttr)
 exten = 5703,2,Voicemail(u5703)
 exten = 5703,102,Voicemail(b5703)
 exten = 5703,103,Hangup

 exten = 88,1,VoicemailMain(${CALLERIDNUM})
 -
 ;
 ; /etc/asterisk/voicemail.conf
 ;
 [general]
 format=wav49|gsm|wav

 [johnhome]
 5702 = 5702,John Coll,john
 5703 = 5703,John Coll,john


John,

You have your voicemail within the johnhome context, so for your sip
config, your phone entry for voicemail should be [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie - MWI

2004-01-04 Thread Andrew Thompson
lots of snips
  -
  ;
  ; liza:/etc/asterisk/sip.conf
  ;
  [general]
  port = 5060
  bindaddr = 0.0.0.0
  externip = 10.0.1.198
 
  [5702]
  type=friend
  host=dynamic
  context=johnhome
  reinvite=no
  canreinvite=no
  qualify=300
  callerid=John workroom #1 5702
  mailbox=5702
  disallow=all
  allow=ulaw
  allow=alaw
  ; dtmfmode=rfc2834
  dtmfmode=info
  username=5702 ; not convinced this is needed
  nat=yes
 
 
  ;
  ; /etc/asterisk/voicemail.conf
  ;
  [general]
  format=wav49|gsm|wav
 
  [johnhome]
  5702 = 5702,John Coll,john
  5703 = 5703,John Coll,john
 

 John,

 You have your voicemail within the johnhome context, so for your sip
 config, your phone entry for voicemail should be [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Paul


Why shouldn't the mailbox definition inherit the context defined on the SIP
entry?

Why should we have to create each SIP/IAX/(etc) entry, define it's context,
and then also define the context it's voicemail is in? [default] has no
rights  privelidges that should put it above any other context, does it?


Andrew Thompson http://aktzero.com/

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[Asterisk-Users] Multi-line help

2004-01-04 Thread Sean Garland
I am looking for common practice ideas on how to handle multiple line
phones.  Is it common with asterisk to have the lines appear as
programmable buttons? Or to just have itcm like buttons and use the dial
9 approach?  What I am specifically interested in, is to have my line
one appear on the first button (sip polycom phones) line two appear on
the second button, and use the third as an intercom (internal extension)
button.  I have managed to get the line 1 to ring on the line 1 button
and the same for line two.  I have even managed to get extension
transfers to happen on the itcm button.

The trouble I have is that I don't know if someone else is on the
particular line, and when I dial, it picks up the first available button
(line) so even if I dial an extension, it looks like I am dialing from
line 1 to the extension.  How do I make it pick the third button, etc...

Confusing?  I have read the handbook and countless searches through
wiki and Google, but cannot find practical examples of multi-line use
with asterisk.

Thanks a ton.  I have been testing asterisk and on the mailing list for
about a month now...  I would be happy to send all my config files for
perusal.

Sean Garland - Siskiyou Technology Consultants 

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie - MWI

2004-01-04 Thread Sean Cheesman
There are no guarantees that the voicemail will be in the same context
as the extension.  By giving you the ability and flexibility of defining
everything independently, there's not much you can't do!  Remember, the
context call in the sip.conf refers to the context in extensions.conf.
the johnhome at the end of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] refers to the
context in voicemail.conf.  Maybe I'm missing your point, and I
apologize if I am.

Sean

-Original Message-
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie - MWI


lots of snips
  -
  ;
  ; liza:/etc/asterisk/sip.conf
  ;
  [general]
  port = 5060
  bindaddr = 0.0.0.0
  externip = 10.0.1.198
 
  [5702]
  type=friend
  host=dynamic
  context=johnhome
  reinvite=no
  canreinvite=no
  qualify=300
  callerid=John workroom #1 5702
  mailbox=5702
  disallow=all
  allow=ulaw
  allow=alaw
  ; dtmfmode=rfc2834
  dtmfmode=info
  username=5702 ; not convinced this is needed
  nat=yes
 
 
  ;
  ; /etc/asterisk/voicemail.conf
  ;
  [general]
  format=wav49|gsm|wav
 
  [johnhome]
  5702 = 5702,John Coll,john
  5703 = 5703,John Coll,john
 

 John,

 You have your voicemail within the johnhome context, so for your sip

 config, your phone entry for voicemail should be [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Paul


Why shouldn't the mailbox definition inherit the context defined on the
SIP entry?

Why should we have to create each SIP/IAX/(etc) entry, define it's
context, and then also define the context it's voicemail is in?
[default] has no rights  privelidges that should put it above any other
context, does it?


Andrew Thompson http://aktzero.com/

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[Asterisk-Users] Earpiece Connections

2004-01-04 Thread Michael
Does anyone know of a piece of hardware that can allow multiple earpices
to be connected directly to a server running Asterisk.
I hope I am not being to vague but basically I am looking to allow a
call center to user the server to do all of the Pickup and Hangup
functions.
The operators will merely have to have th earpiece in their ear.  I have
seen serial pieces of hardware that do this (41D switch matrix?)
But I need to find one that asterisk can use.  I will then build some
custom scripts to handle the Pickup and Hangup parts of it.

Anyway any ideas or websites I could research for this type of thing
would be most helpful.

Thanks

Micahel

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[Asterisk-Users] Cisco to Cisco - poor quality

2004-01-04 Thread Terence Parker
I am just starting to deploy asterisk in our office to use as our primary
phone system - we plan to use a Voicetronix OpenLine4 card as our PSTN
gateway - but one thing at a time... haven't got that far yet. Currently,
i'm trying simple IP to IP calls within the office using our Cisco 7960's
phones running SIP.

When I make a call between these two phones, the conversation is of a
quality so bad that it is barely audible (5% makes sense). I recall having
this same problem when I tested asterisk briefly one year ago. However, I
did also try on this occasion to make a call between the cisco phone and
MSN - that worked fine. So it would seem that the cisco phone is to blame?

- but why? Does anyone know why two phones of the same type should have so
much problem talking to each other?

Thanks!

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[Asterisk-Users] Dutch/DTMF Caller ID

2004-01-04 Thread Andy Powell
hi,

since development of dtmf caller id under * is prolly going to only be done if someone 
stumps up the cash I've been looking for alternatives... Hoving found a number of 
projects which turn out to be mad prototypes or unavailable details i nearly gave up.. 
then I found this:

http://www.artech.com.tw/html/english/ex200/ex200.htm

http://www.artech.com.tw/html/english/ex200/ex200me.PDF

The units are pretty cheap if i recall my conversations correctly...if anyone else in 
.nl interested in one of these... perhaps we could get together to reduce shipping 
costs...

any takers?

Andy


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco to Cisco - poor quality

2004-01-04 Thread Doug Shubert
what firmware are you using? is it SIP?
to check, push settings then status and firmware
you should have a load ID like this 'POS3-04-4-00'
also check the preferred CODEC
we use g711ulaw as the default

Terence Parker wrote:

 I am just starting to deploy asterisk in our office to use as our primary
 phone system - we plan to use a Voicetronix OpenLine4 card as our PSTN
 gateway - but one thing at a time... haven't got that far yet. Currently,
 i'm trying simple IP to IP calls within the office using our Cisco 7960's
 phones running SIP.

 When I make a call between these two phones, the conversation is of a
 quality so bad that it is barely audible (5% makes sense). I recall having
 this same problem when I tested asterisk briefly one year ago. However, I
 did also try on this occasion to make a call between the cisco phone and
 MSN - that worked fine. So it would seem that the cisco phone is to blame?

 - but why? Does anyone know why two phones of the same type should have so
 much problem talking to each other?

 Thanks!

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco to Cisco - poor quality

2004-01-04 Thread Jared Smith
On Sun, 2004-01-04 at 17:45, Terence Parker wrote:
 When I make a call between these two phones, the conversation is of a
 quality so bad that it is barely audible (5% makes sense). 

You must be doing something wrong (maybe codec problems), because I've
had absolutely no problems with Cisco to Cisco calls, and I've got
almost 50 deployed across the company.  (For what it's worth, I'm using
the ulaw codec.)

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco to Cisco - poor quality

2004-01-04 Thread Terence Parker
Thanks for the replies.

My cisco firmware is only POS3-04-2-00, though it is SIP. It used to work
fine under vocal though - which was strange. Is this definitely nothing to
do with asterisk? I do note however that my firmware is fairly old... except
cisco aren't exactly generous with firmware upgrades.

I have tried both g729a (default on my phone) and g711ulaw with no success.
But i'll have another fiddle and try to get it to work.

Thanks again.

Terence



 what firmware are you using? is it SIP?
 to check, push settings then status and firmware
 you should have a load ID like this 'POS3-04-4-00'
 also check the preferred CODEC
 we use g711ulaw as the default

-- snip --

 You must be doing something wrong (maybe codec problems), because I've
 had absolutely no problems with Cisco to Cisco calls, and I've got
 almost 50 deployed across the company.  (For what it's worth, I'm using
 the ulaw codec.)

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 12sp+ program update

2004-01-04 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Sun, 2004-01-04 at 17:04, Rohde wrote:
 does anyone have a running cisco 12sp+ or 30 vip phone on their
 network?
 and if so could you also tell me what tftp files you actually use and
 if there are any special settings in skinny.conf that i need?
 (I ran several searches for setup, nothing has come up so far so i'll
 ask for advice now.)

When the phone boots up, look in the right side of the LCD, you should
see a version of the call already installed. Mine said G2.04. Then you
go to channels/chan_skinny.c and edit the version_id on line 71 to match
your version. Here is my line.  

static char version_id[16] = P002G204;

Don't forget to make clean install after the change and restart
asterisk. At that point, you don't need any tftp files.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Multi-line help

2004-01-04 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Sun, 2004-01-04 at 18:18, Sean Garland wrote:
 I am looking for common practice ideas on how to handle multiple line
 phones.  Is it common with asterisk to have the lines appear as
 programmable buttons? Or to just have itcm like buttons and use the dial
 9 approach?  What I am specifically interested in, is to have my line
 one appear on the first button (sip polycom phones) line two appear on
 the second button, and use the third as an intercom (internal extension)
 button.  I have managed to get the line 1 to ring on the line 1 button
 and the same for line two.  I have even managed to get extension
 transfers to happen on the itcm button.
 
 The trouble I have is that I don't know if someone else is on the
 particular line, and when I dial, it picks up the first available button
 (line) so even if I dial an extension, it looks like I am dialing from
 line 1 to the extension.  How do I make it pick the third button, etc...
 
 Confusing?  I have read the handbook and countless searches through
 wiki and Google, but cannot find practical examples of multi-line use
 with asterisk.

The reason you didn't find anything is because the multiline approach
doesn't scale beyond a small handful of lines. It shouldn't matter what
line a call is on if you are supposed to answer it. If you have hunt or
rollover on your lines, it doesn't matter what line you dial out on. In
the long, the only thing that your phone should know is how to get you
to the PBX, the pbx will take care of the rest.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco to Cisco - poor quality

2004-01-04 Thread daryl
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Terence Parker
 Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 8:29 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco to Cisco - poor quality
 
 
 Thanks for the replies.
 
 My cisco firmware is only POS3-04-2-00, though it is SIP. It 
 used to work fine under vocal though - which was strange. Is 
 this definitely nothing to do with asterisk? I do note 
 however that my firmware is fairly old... except cisco aren't 
 exactly generous with firmware upgrades.
 
 I have tried both g729a (default on my phone) and g711ulaw 
 with no success. But i'll have another fiddle and try to get 
 it to work.

How are the phones talking to each other?  Directly, or through
asterisk?  (canreinvite=what? in the sip.conf for each of them?).

What I'm trying to get at here is, it is a problem between the phones,
or are you having a problem possibly with the asterisk box?  Some other
things to know: are you running voicemail yet?  If so and you can dial
into it from either of the phones, how does it sound?  If not, how about
anything from the * boxlike the demo annoucment stuff?

Daryl
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco to Cisco - poor quality

2004-01-04 Thread Doug Shubert
see if you can upgrade to firmware 4-3 or 4-4

another point to note, are you using a full duplex 10/100 switch?
if so, you should have 'Port1 Full 100' for full duplex 100Mbit
under the 'Network Statistics'

If you like to email me your config settings, I will check them against our
phones.
telnet to the phone, and capture  'Phone show config'

Doug

Terence Parker wrote:

 Thanks for the replies.

 My cisco firmware is only POS3-04-2-00, though it is SIP. It used to work
 fine under vocal though - which was strange. Is this definitely nothing to
 do with asterisk? I do note however that my firmware is fairly old... except
 cisco aren't exactly generous with firmware upgrades.

 I have tried both g729a (default on my phone) and g711ulaw with no success.
 But i'll have another fiddle and try to get it to work.

 Thanks again.

 Terence

  what firmware are you using? is it SIP?
  to check, push settings then status and firmware
  you should have a load ID like this 'POS3-04-4-00'
  also check the preferred CODEC
  we use g711ulaw as the default

 -- snip --

  You must be doing something wrong (maybe codec problems), because I've
  had absolutely no problems with Cisco to Cisco calls, and I've got
  almost 50 deployed across the company.  (For what it's worth, I'm using
  the ulaw codec.)
 
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[Asterisk-Users] pager reminder script

2004-01-04 Thread firedude
Since the list community has done so much for me in my humble asterisk 
beginnings I have put together a simple little script written in php that 
serves as a paging reminder script.  If anyone is interested in a copy of 
it contact me off list and I'll forward you a copy.

The basics of the script are as follows:  It queries an asterisk inbox of 
your choosing for the existence of a file that has been there longer than 
the time set in the script (you are free to set this time to whatever you 
like).  If it finds the existence of the file it emails a reminder to the 
email/pagers/text message device of your choosing.  If the time exceeds a 
second time set by you in the script, it will email a second 
pager(s)/email(s)/text messenger(s) with a different message.  The logic 
is very simple: you install the script where you want it installed, have 
cron run it at whatever interval you choose and you never have to worry 
about it again.

In my case, we have an incidence where someone is oncall 24 hours a day.  
This person is assigned an alpha-numeric pager, when an initial call is 
received to the oncall mailbox, asterisk sends a message to the pager.  
Our employee has 20 minutes to answer the page, we have cron set up to run 
the script every 5 minutes.  If the script finds that a msg.gsm is in 
the mailbox and the timestamp on the message is equal or greater to 20 
minutes, it sends out a reminder page to the pager.  Since cron runs every 
5 minutes it sends in this message every 5 minutes until the message 
equals 40 minutes old.  At that point it sends the employee a message that 
the supervisor is being notified and at the same time it sends a page to 
the oncall supervisor's pager.  It doesn't matter if there is more than 
one message in the mailbox because when the employee calls to get the 
first one they will see the pressence of the others.  And even if the 
employee forgets to delete the message, asterisk automatically moves the 
message to the old mail folder once it has been listened to.  For anybody 
who wants the script, just mail me.  Also feel free to modify it any way 
you see fit.
AJ

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Grandstream Early Dial

2004-01-04 Thread ml
On the config webpage, its on the bottom.

Kevin

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Grandstream Early Dial
 From: Aaron Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sun, January 04, 2004 3:49 pm
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Where / how do I set DTMF payload type to 101?
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Josh Roberson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 3:17 PM
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Grandstream Early Dial
 
 
  I've never had early dial working, however, I resolved my multiple
 digit
  issue by simply putting both the GS phones and asterisk in INFO
 mode.
  This worked on both 10.0.3.81 firmware on the budgetone and the
 ATA286,
  as well as 10.0.4.30 firmware.  I'm not saying I don't believe you,
 but
  doubelcheck your lines in asterisk to be dtmfmode=info and the gs
  devices are on SIP INFO method, and your DTMF Payload type is 101.
  
  Just my $.02
  
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  Indigent Networks
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[Asterisk-Users] Sun Servers with UltraSparc Processors

2004-01-04 Thread Adthrawn
Hi,

I'm just considering buying two Telecoms grade Sun Netra's to run a 
lab-based VoIP solution. Not my immediate thoughts as a VoIP platform, 
but from what I've heard, they can run Linux, and run it well.

Only thing is:

The Wiki and the Whitepaper just state that Asterisk is for the x86 
architecture, but has been compiled to run on PPC architectures. No 
mention of UltraSparc. If I can get it compiled, what would I be 
loosing in terms of functions or what problems might I face?

Would other 3rd party code (add ons and bolts on) work too, are these 
tied to platforms, or just to Asterisk itself?

I've not got long to decide about the machines - so any feedback would 
be most welcome!! And directly too if possible!!!

Finally, will ISDN4Linux run on an UltraSparc version of Linux? My 
intention is to stick a dual ISDN BRI card into each (2x ISDN lines on 
each card, or 4x B-Channels in total).

I've had trouble trying to find decent second-hand/refurbished or new 
rackable servers within the research budget that can even be considered 
usable! These are the first machines that have a high spec, and are 
designed for the Telecom's industry.

Best,
Ad.
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[Asterisk-Users] Sun Servers with UltraSparc Processors

2004-01-04 Thread Adthrawn
Forgot to add, the Sun Netra's UltraSparc is 64bit... However, various 
pointers indicate that it can run both 32bit and 64bit compiled code.

Best,
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[Asterisk-Users] 4 X100P Cards

2004-01-04 Thread Brent Franks
Has anyone had any success using more than one or two X100P cards?

I have 4 in a system, and channels 2 3 and 4 all seem to work just fine.
Channel 1 however is acting up.  I get random red alarms, disconnects,
etc.

I have checked the /proc/interrupts and everything is sitting on it's
own IRQ.  Also checked memory addresses and everything looks good there.

Not looking for anything specific, just any pointers out there that
anyone might have would be greatly appreciated.

(Also the Channels are in a group and ring SIP Polycom Phones)

TIA,

Brent

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[Asterisk-Users] Hold and transfer problem

2004-01-04 Thread Kevin Walsh
I got a Cisco 7960 phone recently, and have downloaded and set up
Asterisk version 0.5.0.  Very nice!

I've set up the software on a test box for now and have configured
the system to route calls that start with 7 to FWD.  Once I'm happy
with my various tests, I will set this all up on a dedicated box,
will get a couple of POTS interface cards and will set up some
proper routes etc.

Anyway, the FWD stuff works as expected, as does the answering machine.
The problem I have is when I put a call on hold, or attempt to transfer
a call (same issue, I expect).  Once the call is put on hold, I can't
resume it and, after a couple of seconds, I get a Maximum retries
exceeded error (verbose mode).  

If I put a call on hold and just leave it that way then I get the same
message and, of course, am unable to resume the call.

I suspect that the Cisco 7960 configuration is at fault here, and am
wondering if anyone has any advice.  I have searched around with
Google but have not found any answers, although I have found a few
similar (and unanswered) questions.

I have tried the latest Asterisk version from CVS but that doesn't
seem to like my phone at all.  For instance, the voicemail application
won't read the DTMF tones and so won't allow me to enter a password.

I suspect that there's some silly little Cisco configuration value that
I've overlooked, but I just can't seem to find it.

Thanks for any help that can be offered with this.  I can live with
version 0.5.0 and just not use hold/transfer, but I'd prefer to find
a solution.

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[Asterisk-Users] RE: SIP + DTMF problem

2004-01-04 Thread Hamish Archer








Reposted because my original
post was mangled by a nasty webmail client. I would really like some help with
this one if anyone has any ideas.



-- 

I am having a problem
interacting with a remote IVR system when the outbound call is going via SIP.
The only way that I have been able to get a response from the IVR is to set dtmfmode=info
in sip.conf. 



Unfortunately that doesn't
quite fix the problem because it will still only accept DTMF input once the
voice response has finished on the IVR. If I try and press anything while the IVR
is still talking it doesn't recognize any of the digits.



I get the same result no
matter what handset I use to originate the call i.e IP or POTS handset. The SIP
IVR works fine if I connect directly to it using a SIP proxy + IP phone so I am
pretty sure the problem is with the way that * is handling the DTMF. 



I found a post on the
mailing list which suggested removing DTMF detection while the far end is still
talking. If that has been implemented then that could explain the problem.



Anyone got any suggestions?



Thanks



Hamish












Re: [Asterisk-Users] Sun Servers with UltraSparc Processors

2004-01-04 Thread Tilghman Lesher
On Sunday 04 January 2004 20:25, Adthrawn wrote:
 The Wiki and the Whitepaper just state that Asterisk is for the x86
 architecture, but has been compiled to run on PPC architectures. No
 mention of UltraSparc. If I can get it compiled, what would I be
 loosing in terms of functions or what problems might I face?

You shouldn't face any problems with endianness.  In fact, the core
code should probably work right out of the box.  However, the drivers
for the hardware, if you ever wanted to use them, might be a problem.
I say might, because I really don't know that architecture.

 Would other 3rd party code (add ons and bolts on) work too, are these
 tied to platforms, or just to Asterisk itself?

No, 3rd party code with the possible exception of any drivers should
work just fine.

And I think it's excellent that you're thinking about doing this in the
lab, first, and not buying your production machines without testing,
first.  There've been a few users who jump a little too fast, then get
disappointed when their first machines didn't always perform to their
expectations.

-Tilghman

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Multi-line help

2004-01-04 Thread Rich Adamson
 On Sun, 2004-01-04 at 18:18, Sean Garland wrote:
  I am looking for common practice ideas on how to handle multiple line
  phones.  Is it common with asterisk to have the lines appear as
  programmable buttons? Or to just have itcm like buttons and use the dial
  9 approach?  What I am specifically interested in, is to have my line
  one appear on the first button (sip polycom phones) line two appear on
  the second button, and use the third as an intercom (internal extension)
  button.  I have managed to get the line 1 to ring on the line 1 button
  and the same for line two.  I have even managed to get extension
  transfers to happen on the itcm button.
  
  The trouble I have is that I don't know if someone else is on the
  particular line, and when I dial, it picks up the first available button
  (line) so even if I dial an extension, it looks like I am dialing from
  line 1 to the extension.  How do I make it pick the third button, etc...
  
  Confusing?  I have read the handbook and countless searches through
  wiki and Google, but cannot find practical examples of multi-line use
  with asterisk.
 
 The reason you didn't find anything is because the multiline approach
 doesn't scale beyond a small handful of lines. It shouldn't matter what
 line a call is on if you are supposed to answer it. If you have hunt or
 rollover on your lines, it doesn't matter what line you dial out on. In
 the long, the only thing that your phone should know is how to get you
 to the PBX, the pbx will take care of the rest.

Steve, I'll have to beg to differ with you. In some cases, which line or
extn is used does make a difference (from a business perspective).
Example, if x3002 is to be answered Customer Service and x3008 is to
be answered as President (or whatever), you really do want to know
which extn is ringing. Likewise, if you make a call from the Presidents
line to certain employees, there is some value/meaning when an employee
sees the call is coming from the President and not just 'another' customer
service call.

Other examples: share tennant services (how would you answer a phone that
has six extensions, each belonging to a different business and you are
the shared operator?  Happens all the time, at least in the US. Departmental
accounting is another (which department pays for which calls originated
from the exact same phone; sales vs collections vs cust services). Or, 
the shared services (again) and the operator is asked to call a dozen
foreign locations (who pays for that is determined by which button the
very non-technical hardly-trainable operator pushes).

So, his question is very valid.

With Cisco phones, no problem. We define each button to be whatever extn
we want and any callerid we want, and by pushing that button on the phone, 
we can initiate a call from that extn as well. Operates more like the 
older US key systems.

As of yesterday, the same is true with the Snom 200 running v2.03f code.
But the snom prior to that operated under what I've been told is the
European ISDN approach, where apparently there is less/no sensitivity
to which extn is actually used to initiate a call.

I don't have any polycom phones, so no idea how that one functions nor
how to program it, but since your asking, sounds like it follows the 
snom European approach.

I could probably list several dozen valid business reasons for doing
what he's asking, but probably very few (if any) valid technical reasons.
More of an issue in small business then in large ones, but I also know
the same kind of thing goes on in government offices as well.

Rich


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Sun Servers with UltraSparc Processors

2004-01-04 Thread daryl
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 Tilghman Lesher
 Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 9:58 PM
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 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Sun Servers with UltraSparc Processors
 
 
[...]
 
 You shouldn't face any problems with endianness.  In fact, 
 the core code should probably work right out of the box.  

Not as of 3 months ago, the last time I tried.  Test platform was Debian
running on a Netra T1 120.

I did little to try to go further, as I wasn't sure how I was going to
get a timing source even if * did compile.

 And I think it's excellent that you're thinking about doing 
 this in the lab, first, and not buying your production 
 machines without testing, first.  There've been a few users 
 who jump a little too fast, then get disappointed when their 
 first machines didn't always perform to their expectations.

I second that.

And I'd love to get * working on a Sparc.  As a matter of fact, I've for
a SunFire V120 doing absolutely nothing.  (along with a few T1's and
soon to be an E220r...I'm phasing sun out of my NOCs due to insane
new hardware costs, wonkiness and expense of Solaris-based management
platforms (can you say dependency hell to the 1000th degree?) and how
ridiculously easy VMWare makes managing multiple low-usage
installations).

Maybe I'll give it a shot.  But I'm not a developer by any means.  Maybe
if one or more of the * devs and/or hackers want to help on this, I'll
consider providing test boxes hosted at on of my NOCs.  Chime in if
you're interested ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).

Daryl G. Jurbala
BMPC Network Operations
Tel: +1 215 825 8401 x235
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Hardware to build an Enterprise AsteriskUniversal Gateway

2004-01-04 Thread Rich Adamson
The comments below are certainly not intended as any form of negativism,
but rather to pursue thought processes for redundant systems.

  1. Moving a physical interface (whether a T1, ethernet or 2-wire pstn) is
  mostly trivial, however what signal is needed to detect a system failure
  and move the physical connection to a second machine/interface? (If there
  are three systems in a cluster, what signal is needed? If a three-way
  switch is required, does someone want to design, build, and sell it to
  users? Any need to discuss a four-way switch? Should there be a single
  switch that flip-flops all three at the same time (T1, Ethernet, pstn)?)
 
 Simple idea:  Have a process on each machine pulse a lead-state (something
 a s simple as DTR out a serial port or a single data line on a parallel
 port) out to an external box.  This box is strictly discrete hardware and
 built with timeout that is retriggered by the pulse.  When the pulse fails
 to arrive, the box switches the T1 over to the backup system.

And upon partial restoration of the failed system, should it automatically
fall back to the primary? Or, might there be some element of human 
control that would suggest not falling back until told to do so?

  Since protecting calls in progress (under all circumstances and
  configurations) is likely the most expensive and most difficult to achieve,
  we can probably all agree that handling this should be left to some
  future long-range plan. Is that acceptable to everyone?
 
 Its going to be almost impossible to preserve calls in progress.  If you
 switch a T1 from one machine to the other, there's going to either going
 to be a lack of sync (ISDN D-channels need to come up, RBS channels need
 to wink) that's going to result in the loss of the call.

What about calls in progress between two sip phones (and cdr records)?
 
  2. In a hot-spare arrangement (single primary, single running secondary),
  what static and/or dynamic information needs to be shared across the
  two systems to maintain the best chance of switching to the secondary
  system in the shortest period of time, and while minimizing the loss of
  business data? (Should this same data be shared across all systems in
  a cluster if the cluster consists of two or more machines?)
 
  3. If a clustered environment, is clustering based on IP address or MAC
  address?
 a. If based on an IP address, is a layer-3 box required between * and
sip phones? (If so, how many?)
 
 Yes.  You'll need something like Linux Virtual Server or an F5 load
 balancing box to make this happen.  You can play silly games with round
 robin DNS, but it doesn't handle failure well.

Agreed, but then one would need two F5 boxes as it would become the new
single point of failure.
 
 b. If based on MAC address, what process moves an active * MAC address
to a another * machine (to maintain connectivity to sip phones)?
 
 Something like Ultra Monkey (http://www.ultramonkey.org)
 
 c. Should sessions that rely on a failed machine in a cluster simply
be dropped?
 d. Are there any realistic ways to recover RTP sessions in a clustered
environment when a single machine within the cluster fails, and RTP
sessions were flowing through it (canreinvite=no)?
 e. Should a sip phone's arp cache timeout be configurable?
 
 Shouldn't need to worry about that unless the phone is on the same
 physical network segment.

Which in most cases where asterisk is deployed (obviously not all) is 
probably the case.
 
 f. Which system(s) control the physical switch in #1 above?
 
 A voting system...all systems control it.  It is up to the switch to
 decide who isn't working right.

With probably some manual over-ride since we know that systems can 
appear to be ready for production, but the sys admin says its not ready
due to any number of valid technical reasons.
 
 g. Is sharing static/dynamic operational data across some sort of
high-availability hsrp channel acceptable, or, should two or more
database servers be deployed?
 
 DB Server clustering is a fairly solid technology these days.  Deploy a DB
 cluster if you want.

Which gets to be rather expensive, adds complexity, and additional
points of failure (decreasing the ability to approach five/four-9's).
 
  4. If a firewall/nat box is involved, what are the requirements to detect
 and handle a failed * machine?
 a. Are the requirements different for hot-spare vs clustering?
 b. What if the firewall is an inexpensive device (eg, Linksys) with
minimal configuration options?
 c. Are the nat requirements within * different for clustering?
 
  5. Should sip phones be configurable with a primary and secondary proxy?
 a. If the primary proxy fails, what determines when a sip phone fails
over to the secondary proxy?
 
 Usually a simple timeout works for this..but if your clustering/hot-spare
 switch works right...the client should 

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Multi-line help

2004-01-04 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Sun, 2004-01-04 at 20:42, Rich Adamson wrote:
  On Sun, 2004-01-04 at 18:18, Sean Garland wrote:
   I am looking for common practice ideas on how to handle multiple line
   phones.  Is it common with asterisk to have the lines appear as
   programmable buttons? Or to just have itcm like buttons and use the dial
   9 approach?  What I am specifically interested in, is to have my line
   one appear on the first button (sip polycom phones) line two appear on
   the second button, and use the third as an intercom (internal extension)
   button.  I have managed to get the line 1 to ring on the line 1 button
   and the same for line two.  I have even managed to get extension
   transfers to happen on the itcm button.
   
   The trouble I have is that I don't know if someone else is on the
   particular line, and when I dial, it picks up the first available button
   (line) so even if I dial an extension, it looks like I am dialing from
   line 1 to the extension.  How do I make it pick the third button, etc...
   
   Confusing?  I have read the handbook and countless searches through
   wiki and Google, but cannot find practical examples of multi-line use
   with asterisk.
  
  The reason you didn't find anything is because the multiline approach
  doesn't scale beyond a small handful of lines. It shouldn't matter what
  line a call is on if you are supposed to answer it. If you have hunt or
  rollover on your lines, it doesn't matter what line you dial out on. In
  the long, the only thing that your phone should know is how to get you
  to the PBX, the pbx will take care of the rest.
 
 Steve, I'll have to beg to differ with you. In some cases, which line or
 extn is used does make a difference (from a business perspective).
 Example, if x3002 is to be answered Customer Service and x3008 is to
 be answered as President (or whatever), you really do want to know
 which extn is ringing. Likewise, if you make a call from the Presidents
 line to certain employees, there is some value/meaning when an employee
 sees the call is coming from the President and not just 'another' customer
 service call.

Like I said, a button for each line doesn't scale well. We have a PRI, I
don't want to have a phone with 23 buttons to pick a line when a simple
prefix chooses one for me. Scale that to a larger corporation and you
may have many PRIs in one building. Do you want to bother choosing which
of a hundred or more lines to choose from you will dial out on? It
doesn't scale. 

If you need to know whether it is coming in for Pres. or Support, use
CallerID. We have a similar need. We have a timeout on our main line
that will ring all phones, and our tech support line rings all phones.
It is acceptable for our programmers to ignore the main line if there
are others in the office, but it isn't acceptable to ignore the support
line ever. So we change the CallerID display for these calls. We all can
choose once we see the CallerID as to what to answer. This solution
scales because it is possible to send any arbitrary string to the
CallerID unit without touching the phone number.

Maybe I'm a bit cheap, but I don't like choosing solutions that will
junked as soon as growth is experienced. My last office was such a
place. They had a switch that was configured to show line appearances
for 8 lines. That was a hardware limitation of the phones since they
only supported 8 buttons. It was generally known that line 8 was tech
support, but what if it was already in use? Some people gave out the
numbers for specific lines so they knew after hours what was a personal
call or a business call. Can you see how that does not scale at all. As
soon as they needed 1 more phone line, they had to go buy a new switch
as the old one was at the limit.   

 Other examples: share tennant services (how would you answer a phone that
 has six extensions, each belonging to a different business and you are
 the shared operator?  Happens all the time, at least in the US. Departmental
 accounting is another (which department pays for which calls originated
 from the exact same phone; sales vs collections vs cust services). Or, 
 the shared services (again) and the operator is asked to call a dozen
 foreign locations (who pays for that is determined by which button the
 very non-technical hardly-trainable operator pushes).

I haven't experienced the shared tenant situation for more than 2 weeks
once. It was important for us to not have been on someone elses phone
switch. It also made the pain of moving our service to a new location a
non issue. I know if you are looking at providing the service, the
headache of moving isn't of interest, but the ease of move in is
important. 

It would seem to me that utilizing the CallerID is much easier to train
than specific call appearances on a phone. The benefit is again that the
CallerID is almost infinitely flexible where as a line appearance
mechanism can only scale to the number of buttons you can manage and
implement.


[Asterisk-Users] Grandstream Handytone 286 RTP Problems

2004-01-04 Thread Mike Machado
I am trying to get the handytone 286 to make a very simple call to * and
having problems. It registers with * just fine, but when I place a call
(to echo test, for example), the RTP stream seems to have problems
opening. Here is there error I get in *:

WARNING[98311]: File chan_sip.c, Line 464 (retrans_pkt): Maximum retries
exceeded on call [EMAIL PROTECTED] for
seqno 0 (Response)

When doing traces with ethereal, I see successful SIP and SDP
handshakes, but when * sends handytone RTP packets, I see a ICMP Port
Unreachable messages sent from Handytone to * regarding the UDP RTP
packet. * then gives up and I see a BYE from *, which handytone acks.

Handytone config is default except obvious SIP registration parameters.
I also have a Sipura SPA2000 and everything works perfect for that one,
same extension and everything (not at same time of course).

sip.conf entry:

disallow=all; Disallow all codecs
allow=ilbc
allow=ulaw  ; Allow codecs in order of preference

[131]
type=friend
host=dynamic
reinvite=no
canreinvite=no
qualify=300
callerid=handytone 131
mailbox=131
nat=0


Handytone info:

Software Version:Program--1.0.4.17Bootloader--1.0.0.11
HTML--1.0.0.19


Both on same subnet, no NAT. I have two Handytones, both exhibit same
symptoms. 

Anyone else have this problem?


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Multi-line help

2004-01-04 Thread Nicholas Comanos
Could you explain in a little more detail about what you are trying to do
with the multi-lines? Maybe a more in depth example would help.

In my (limited) experience, I have seen two types of multi-line uses

1. The phone has a number of lines (usually) two. If the first line is busy,
the call rings on the second and so the user has the option of putting the
first on hold and answering the new incoming call or letting it ring out.
Normally the user has only one advertised extension number (and the second
line may not even have its own unique extension #). The second line is often
used for inquiry calls or if the primary line is busy. Usually the phone
selects the first available line when making a new call.

2. The second type of multi-line use I have seen is where one phone has
lines for multiple extensions and those extensions may be represented on
multiple phones (shared line). For example, the phone of a personal
assistant may have a line for them and their boss. The multi-line button in
this case may often shows the status (ie: busy) of the extension as it is
'shared' among multiple phones. Depending on the configuration, if the
extension is called, it may ring on one or more of the phone lines that
support that extension. Even in this case, the phone often has a default
line to use when the handset is picked-up to make a call.

Asterisk will support the type 1. above as long as the handset support
multiple lines (which in your case it does,) However, case 2, I do not
believe is supported by Asterisk at the moment - you can make the line ring,
but you will not be able to show the status of the line on other phones.

In addition, with a SIP phone, the phone will also have to have a way of
receiving the notification for the status of the line (busy, not busy.) -
not all SIP phones support this, but looking through the Polycomm manual, it
seems they do.

- Original Message - 
From: Sean Garland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 7:18 PM
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Multi-line help


I am looking for common practice ideas on how to handle multiple line
phones.  Is it common with asterisk to have the lines appear as
programmable buttons? Or to just have itcm like buttons and use the dial
9 approach?  What I am specifically interested in, is to have my line
one appear on the first button (sip polycom phones) line two appear on
the second button, and use the third as an intercom (internal extension)
button.  I have managed to get the line 1 to ring on the line 1 button
and the same for line two.  I have even managed to get extension
transfers to happen on the itcm button.

The trouble I have is that I don't know if someone else is on the
particular line, and when I dial, it picks up the first available button
(line) so even if I dial an extension, it looks like I am dialing from
line 1 to the extension.  How do I make it pick the third button, etc...

Confusing?  I have read the handbook and countless searches through
wiki and Google, but cannot find practical examples of multi-line use
with asterisk.

Thanks a ton.  I have been testing asterisk and on the mailing list for
about a month now...  I would be happy to send all my config files for
perusal.

Sean Garland - Siskiyou Technology Consultants

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[Asterisk-Users] Re: Sun Servers with UltraSparc Processors

2004-01-04 Thread Ish




I had asterisk running on SuSe 7.3 on an Ultra 2 back in May 2003. Had to 
make some changes to Makefiles. At that time, SuSe had no more updates planned 
for Linux on Sparc. I had MGCP andSIP running very well on it. Had some 
trouble with H323. Timing was another issue as the Ultra 2 is an SBus machine 
and not PCI. Basic IP Call switching works. MeetMe may not work. Machine was 
very reliable. Had almost no down time for the 6 months or so that I used it at 
home. I have been using Sparc servers for many years now and am very impressed 
by their reliability and performance. I think even Sonus Softswitch runs on a 
Sun Netra.

I had documented the Makefile modification in an email to the list. If you 
search for Sparc in the mailing list, you should be able to find it. If not, 
drop me a line and I'll see if I still have it.

Good luck.

Ish


"Adthrawn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... 
Hi,  I'm just considering buying two Telecoms grade Sun Netra's 
to run a  lab-based VoIP solution. Not my immediate thoughts as a VoIP 
platform,  but from what I've heard, they can run Linux, and run it 
well.  Only thing is:  The Wiki and the 
Whitepaper just state that Asterisk is for the x86  architecture, but 
has been compiled to run on PPC architectures. No  mention of 
UltraSparc. If I can get it compiled, what would I be  loosing in terms 
of functions or what problems might I face?  Would other 3rd 
party code (add ons and bolts on) work too, are these  tied to 
platforms, or just to Asterisk itself?  I've not got long to 
decide about the machines - so any feedback would  be most welcome!! And 
directly too if possible!!!  Finally, will ISDN4Linux run on an 
UltraSparc version of Linux? My  intention is to stick a dual ISDN BRI 
card into each (2x ISDN lines on  each card, or 4x "B-Channels" in 
total).  I've had trouble trying to find decent 
second-hand/refurbished or new  rackable servers within the research 
budget that can even be considered  usable! These are the first machines 
that have a high spec, and are  designed for the Telecom's 
industry.  Best, Ad.


Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco to Cisco - poor quality

2004-01-04 Thread Eric Wieling
I seem to recall that you are only sending calls from Asterisk to the
Cisco, not sending calls from the Cisco to Asterisk.  Is this correct?

On Sun, 2004-01-04 at 19:10, Jared Smith wrote:
 On Sun, 2004-01-04 at 17:45, Terence Parker wrote:
  When I make a call between these two phones, the conversation is of a
  quality so bad that it is barely audible (5% makes sense). 
 
 You must be doing something wrong (maybe codec problems), because I've
 had absolutely no problems with Cisco to Cisco calls, and I've got
 almost 50 deployed across the company.  (For what it's worth, I'm using
 the ulaw codec.)
 
 Jared Smith
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Grandstream Handytone 286 RTP Problems

2004-01-04 Thread Masakazu Nakano

Hi Mike

I know exacty same situation about BT100 that sometimes lost any packets.

like a DoS attack for BT100? ;-(

mack_jpn

[EMAIL PROTECTED] asterisk]# ping 192.168.XX.XX
PING 192.168.XX.XX (192.168.XX.XX) from 192.168.XX.X : 56(84) bytes of
data.
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=0 ttl=250 time=2 usec
Warning: time of day goes back, taking countermeasures.
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=1 ttl=250 time=969 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=2 ttl=250 time=766 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=3 ttl=250 time=746 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=4 ttl=250 time=829 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=5 ttl=250 time=725 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=6 ttl=250 time=735 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=7 ttl=250 time=703 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=9 ttl=250 time=670 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=10 ttl=250 time=728 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=11 ttl=250 time=711 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=12 ttl=250 time=701 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=13 ttl=250 time=707 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=14 ttl=250 time=693 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=15 ttl=250 time=692 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=16 ttl=250 time=678 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=17 ttl=250 time=673 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=18 ttl=250 time=699 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=19 ttl=250 time=683 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=20 ttl=250 time=696 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=21 ttl=250 time=714 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=22 ttl=250 time=704 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=23 ttl=250 time=701 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=24 ttl=250 time=691 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=25 ttl=250 time=670 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=26 ttl=250 time=690 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=27 ttl=250 time=698 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=28 ttl=250 time=713 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=29 ttl=250 time=723 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=30 ttl=250 time=703 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=31 ttl=250 time=694 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=32 ttl=250 time=685 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=33 ttl=250 time=727 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=34 ttl=250 time=720 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=37 ttl=250 time=687 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=38 ttl=250 time=704 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.XX.XX: icmp_seq=39 ttl=250 time=686 usec

--- 192.168.XX.XX ping statistics ---
40 packets transmitted, 37 packets received, 7% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 0.002/0.695/0.969/0.126 ms

On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 20:16:31 -0800
Mike Machado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am trying to get the handytone 286 to make a very simple call to * and
 having problems. It registers with * just fine, but when I place a call
 (to echo test, for example), the RTP stream seems to have problems
 opening. Here is there error I get in *:
snip

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