Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 10.0.0-rc1 Now Available

2011-11-16 Thread Eyal
Hey,
There is a way to use the new confbridg without installing the new
version of Asterisk,
I'm new in using asterisk, my is version 1.6.2 of Asterisk. 
I would not want just to get into the installation of a new version just
for a one commend which I have very great need.

Thank you for your help.

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Subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 10.0.0-rc1 Now Available

The Asterisk Development Team is pleased to announce the first release
candidate
of Asterisk 10.0.0. This release candidate is available for immediate
download
at http://downloads.asterisk.org/pub/telephony/asterisk/

All Asterisk users are encouraged to participate in the Asterisk 10
testing
process. Please report any issues found to the issue tracker,
https://issues.asterisk.org/jira. It is also very useful to see
successful test
reports. Please post those to the asterisk-dev mailing list.

All Asterisk users are invited to participate in the #asterisk-testing
channel on IRC to work together in testing the many parts of Asterisk.

Asterisk 10 is the next major release series of Asterisk. It will be a
Standard support release, similar to Asterisk 1.6.2. For more
information about support time lines for Asterisk releases, see the
Asterisk
versions page:
https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+Versions

A short list of features includes:

* T.38 gateway functionality has been added to res_fax.
* Protocol independent out-of-call messaging support. Text messages not
  associated with an active call can now be routed through the Asterisk
  dialplan. SIP and XMPP are supported so far.
* New highly optimized and customizable ConfBridge application capable
of mixing
  audio at sample rates ranging from 8kHz-192kHz
  (More information available at
   https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/ConfBridge+10 )
* Addition of video_mode option in confbridge.conf to provide basic
video
  conferencing in the ConfBridge() dialplan application.
* Support for defining hints has been added to pbx_lua.
* Replacement of Berkeley DB with SQLite for the Asterisk Database
(AstDB).
* Much, much more!

A full list of new features can be found in the CHANGES file.

http://svnview.digium.com/svn/asterisk/branches/10/CHANGES

For a full list of changes in the current release, please see the
ChangeLog:

http://downloads.asterisk.org/pub/telephony/asterisk/releases/ChangeLog-
10.0.0-rc1

Thank you for your continued support of Asterisk!

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[asterisk-users] Does Asterisk Support SIP Video Call ?

2011-11-16 Thread Faraj Khasib
Hi all,
I tried making a video SIP call using Asterisk  But it didnt workonly 
voice call works?
Regards
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Re: [asterisk-users] Does Asterisk Support SIP Video Call ?

2011-11-16 Thread Sammy Govind
Hey,
Did you try google.com for this!
I've done this several times now. Video for one-to-one call works if H264
is supported at both end points. All you need to do is enable video in
sip.conf and set allow=h264 in the sip peers with video capability.
You may need to see if your asterisk has h264 compiled on it.
Regards,
Sammy


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 I tried making a video SIP call using Asterisk  But it didnt
 workonly voice call works?
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[asterisk-users] Server-to-server BLF

2011-11-16 Thread Ronald Cepres
Hi all,

Do you have an idea on the best way on how to implement a system with
multiple Asterisk servers with BLF working in such a way that a peer on one
server can subscribe to another peer on the other server in a seamless
manner? Has anyone set-up a system like this before?

Thanks!

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Re: [asterisk-users] Does Asterisk Support SIP Video Call ?

2011-11-16 Thread Administrator TOOTAI

Le 16/11/2011 10:23, Faraj Khasib a écrit :

Hi all,
I tried making a video SIP call using Asterisk  But it didnt workonly 
voice call works?


Hi Faraj,

Asterisk support H261, H263, H263+ and H264. Video calls are working 
since at least 1.4 version. You have to activate it by setting 
videosupport=yes in sip.conf


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[asterisk-users] Skype For Asterisk (SFA)

2011-11-16 Thread Abdul Basit
Any has Skype For Asterisk (SFA) license.

http://www.digium.com/en/products/software/skypeforasterisk.php

PLEASE NOTE: Skype for Asterisk is no longer available for sale. Skype for
Asterisk will be supported for two more years, until July 26, 2013.

I want to test this thing. Any Idea. any free solution.

there is one http://nerdvittles.com/index.php?p=784

Tying to test but dont know if its workable or not.

I will appreciate if any one can share his testing/implementation.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Skype For Asterisk (SFA)

2011-11-16 Thread Sammy Govind
Yes, Skype was a good thing. R.I.P

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Abdul Basit basit.e...@gmail.com wrote:

 Any has Skype For Asterisk (SFA) license.

 http://www.digium.com/en/products/software/skypeforasterisk.php

 PLEASE NOTE: Skype for Asterisk is no longer available for sale. Skype for
 Asterisk will be supported for two more years, until July 26, 2013.

 I want to test this thing. Any Idea. any free solution.

 there is one http://nerdvittles.com/index.php?p=784

 Tying to test but dont know if its workable or not.

 I will appreciate if any one can share his testing/implementation.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Does Asterisk Support SIP Video Call ?

2011-11-16 Thread Faraj Khasib
Now I did, thank you for ur help and it works :D

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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Does Asterisk Support SIP Video Call ?

Le 16/11/2011 10:23, Faraj Khasib a écrit :
 Hi all,
 I tried making a video SIP call using Asterisk  But it didnt workonly 
 voice call works?

Hi Faraj,

Asterisk support H261, H263, H263+ and H264. Video calls are working
since at least 1.4 version. You have to activate it by setting
videosupport=yes in sip.conf

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Re: [asterisk-users] Skype For Asterisk (SFA)

2011-11-16 Thread asterisk asterisk
I can tell you that siptosis is workable but the support has been dropped
recently as well.

It is a great program and especially the paid version with trunk builder
i.e. you can have multiple skype instances

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Abdul Basit basit.e...@gmail.com wrote:

 Any has Skype For Asterisk (SFA) license.

 http://www.digium.com/en/products/software/skypeforasterisk.php

 PLEASE NOTE: Skype for Asterisk is no longer available for sale. Skype for
 Asterisk will be supported for two more years, until July 26, 2013.

 I want to test this thing. Any Idea. any free solution.

 there is one http://nerdvittles.com/index.php?p=784

 Tying to test but dont know if its workable or not.

 I will appreciate if any one can share his testing/implementation.

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[asterisk-users] Limit monthly calls by context

2011-11-16 Thread Hans Goossen
Hello group,

I have this situation:

I have several contexts with a few extensions each one. I need to give every 
context a limited quantity of minutes they can use. All the extensions in the 
context will share the same bag of minutes. Meaning ext 101 use 1900 mins, 
ext 102 60 mins and ext 40 mins.
The limit must be monthly.

I guess some billing solution can do the trick, but I think it's too much for 
that little. I don't need any other feature.

I was thinking something like checking the CDR before make the call, I know it 
may permit some extra minutes to be used, but it really doesn't need to be 
that exact. A couple of extra minutes won't hurt.

Ideas, suggestions ?

Hans Goossen
Investigación  Desarrollo
Planet S.A.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Limit monthly calls by context

2011-11-16 Thread Andrew Latham
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Hans Goossen goos...@planet.com.py wrote:
 Hello group,

 I have this situation:

 I have several contexts with a few extensions each one. I need to give every 
 context a limited quantity of minutes they can use. All the extensions in the 
 context will share the same bag of minutes. Meaning ext 101 use 1900 mins, 
 ext 102 60 mins and ext 40 mins.
 The limit must be monthly.

 I guess some billing solution can do the trick, but I think it's too much 
 for that little. I don't need any other feature.

 I was thinking something like checking the CDR before make the call, I know 
 it may permit some extra minutes to be used, but it really doesn't need to 
 be that exact. A couple of extra minutes won't hurt.

 Ideas, suggestions ?

 Hans Goossen
 Investigación  Desarrollo
 Planet S.A.
 http://www.pla.net.py

You can use the DB[1] to add a table with user and seconds. Then use
the start and end seconds to do this.  I know there are many ways of
doing this with AGI, Manager, Realtime, etc...

[1] https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+10+Function_DB

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Re: [asterisk-users] Limit monthly calls by context

2011-11-16 Thread adamk

Hello Hans,

On 11-16-2011 14:46, Hans Goossen wrote:


I guess some billing solution can do the trick, but I think it's too much for 
that little. I don't need any other feature.



i would create a macro which calls an agi.  The agi searches the CDR 
table (mine is in sql) and calculates if the call can go through.  Then 
i'd call this macro from every extension in the dial plan just before 
the dial cmd.



I was thinking something like checking the CDR before make the call, I know it may permit 
some extra minutes to be used, but it really doesn't need to be that exact. A 
couple of extra minutes won't hurt.



It depends on the number of simultaneous calls from within the same 
context.  The agi can return a number of seconds (calculated from sql) 
which the dial cmd can use as an absolute limit and after that amount of 
seconds it can hang up the call (see S or L flags).


regards
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Re: [asterisk-users] Becoming a CLEC

2011-11-16 Thread eherr
But what is the correct physical setup of a CLEC.

Do you get rack space at a carrier hotel and equipment in there?

Do you get rack space at the local ILEC CO?; which is Verizon here.

What are the types of voice platforms used by CLECs?

Thanks,
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To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Becoming a CLEC

There are clever ways to be a CLEC, and keen reasons for becoming so.  But 
cheaper stuff ain't one of them.

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On Nov 14, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Nick Khamis sym...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah! That is what I was thinking... Bringing Voice and Video under
 one umbrella, things like that...
 I actually come from a speech recognition and natural language
 processing background. Trying to
 build the voice network, and seeing how I can bring it all together.
 
 P.S. I started by getting acquainted with the proxies of course ;)
 
 Nick
 
 On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Alex Balashov
 abalas...@evaristesys.com wrote:
 Only through new, innovative applications. They will always deliver 
 transport and dialtone cheaper than you.
 
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 brevity, errors, and general sloppiness.
 
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 Suite 2200
 Atlanta, GA 30303
 Tel: +1-678-954-0670
 Fax: +1-404-961-1892
 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/
 
 On Nov 14, 2011, at 9:15 PM, Nick Khamis sym...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hahah! Yeah it does doesn't it? What do we do? How do we stay
 a float, It almost seems like the ILECs will drop their rates to a
 penny once the people in this, and Kamailio lists ;) actually put a
 dent in their underline.
 
 Nick
 
 On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Jeff LaCoursiere j...@sunfone.com wrote:
 On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 20:51 -0500, Nick Khamis wrote:
 The ride is over before it even began A local ILEC here in Canada,
 is already offering
 Unlimited World service. And this on a Tier 1 network, not the crap
 we're use to doing
 business on. Choose a different angle before you get anymore grey
 hairs on that head...
 
 http://www.bell.ca/Home_phone/Products/Unlimited_World?INT=HP_hpldpg_BAN_flatfee_Mass_20101110_cb_on_en
 
 
 
 The Unlimited service seems pretty limited to me.  Vonage may even
 have more reach than this.
 
 j
 
 
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Skype For Asterisk (SFA)

2011-11-16 Thread A J Stiles
On Wednesday 16 November 2011, Abdul Basit wrote:
 Any has Skype For Asterisk (SFA) license.
 
 http://www.digium.com/en/products/software/skypeforasterisk.php
 
 PLEASE NOTE: Skype for Asterisk is no longer available for sale. Skype for
 Asterisk will be supported for two more years, until July 26, 2013.
 
 I want to test this thing. Any Idea. any free solution.
 
 there is one http://nerdvittles.com/index.php?p=784
 
 Tying to test but dont know if its workable or not.
 
 I will appreciate if any one can share his testing/implementation.

You would be better off persuading Skype users to transition to something else.

Skype is the absolute antithesis of the whole point of telephony, which is to 
connect people together.  This includes, implicitly, the ability for 
subscribers on one telecommunications provider's network to call subscribers 
on another network.  Imagine if, say, Vodafone subscribers were unable to call 
up BT subscribers?  Well, this is *exactly* what Skype are trying to create by 
keeping their protocols proprietary.

Of course there remains a small but finite probability that Skype will be 
successfully reverse-engineered, the Source Code leaked, or Skype's owners 
forced to publish its communications protocols before the 2013 deadline.  But 
it would be extreme folly to bet the family farm on this happening.

It's time to start seriously evaluating Asterisk-compatible alternatives to 
Skype.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Becoming a CLEC

2011-11-16 Thread James Sharp

On 11/16/2011 10:30 AM, eherr wrote:

But what is the correct physical setup of a CLEC.

Do you get rack space at a carrier hotel and equipment in there?

Do you get rack space at the local ILEC CO?; which is Verizon here.

What are the types of voice platforms used by CLECs?



Just as a point of reference, the CLEC I have experience with had 2-3 
racks in a colo facility and a handful of circuits coming in from the 
access tandem and SS7 provider.  The core switch was a SUMMA4, but I 
forget who made the SS7 hardware (it may have been SUMMA as well).


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Re: [asterisk-users] Skype For Asterisk (SFA)

2011-11-16 Thread Gordon Henderson

On Wed, 16 Nov 2011, A J Stiles wrote:


You would be better off persuading Skype users to transition to something else.

Skype is the absolute antithesis of the whole point of telephony, which is to
connect people together.  This includes, implicitly, the ability for
subscribers on one telecommunications provider's network to call subscribers
on another network.  Imagine if, say, Vodafone subscribers were unable to call
up BT subscribers?  Well, this is *exactly* what Skype are trying to create by
keeping their protocols proprietary.

Of course there remains a small but finite probability that Skype will be
successfully reverse-engineered, the Source Code leaked, or Skype's owners
forced to publish its communications protocols before the 2013 deadline.  But
it would be extreme folly to bet the family farm on this happening.

It's time to start seriously evaluating Asterisk-compatible alternatives to
Skype.


Sadly, my experience in the SOHO environment is that Skype wins.

I tried to get my family to all use SIP videophones - and it worked for a 
couple of years - mostly. The downside was that they're mostly using crap 
domestic quality broadband and trying to use a videophone, or even a 
soft-phone on a PC just seemed too hard for them to grasp. They *all* 
moved to Skype recently - and I have to say I've been totally blown away 
at the ease of use and the quality of the calls - both sound and video. 
(And I'm using Linux too)


The other thing - LAN to LAN calls STAY ON THE LAN! So I can Skype my 
wife next door and it doesn't use up any of my own broadband bandwidth 
wheras if I use a hosted SIP service, calls go out  come back in again. 
Skype also seems to be able to run the lines at max. rate too - some sort 
of adaptive bandwidth - we get large and high resolution video calls from 
one end of the country to the other with the output bandwidth running at 
near max (800Kb sec in our case)


And now I'm seeing some of my smaller business customers using Skype. For 
serious business calls too. It's free. They get video. It just works. No 
fiddling with NAT, port forwarding, never any hint of one-way audio.


I really was skeptical at first, but Skype is here to stay - mostly 
because it just works. Even a complete computer idiot can install it and 
make it work. Give them a SIP phone, or SIP softphone and tell them to set 
it up and they'll just leave it alone as too complicated.


As for interoerability - well there's Skype-Out. It works, it's set at a 
reasonable price level, so what more do you need?


Once upon a time I would block Skype from working inside a corporate LAN 
and would recomend against it's use - now I'm told to explicitly allow it.


Times are changing and I'm finding it harder to persuade small businesses 
to use SIP phones - and why should they...


Gordon

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Re: [asterisk-users] Skype For Asterisk (SFA)

2011-11-16 Thread eherr
I would agree, unfortunately.

However, I still see it as a glorified webcam chat and not a telecommunication 
device like a SIP/soft phone.



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[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Gordon Henderson
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 11:45 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Skype For Asterisk (SFA)

On Wed, 16 Nov 2011, A J Stiles wrote:

 You would be better off persuading Skype users to transition to something 
 else.

 Skype is the absolute antithesis of the whole point of telephony, which is to
 connect people together.  This includes, implicitly, the ability for
 subscribers on one telecommunications provider's network to call subscribers
 on another network.  Imagine if, say, Vodafone subscribers were unable to call
 up BT subscribers?  Well, this is *exactly* what Skype are trying to create by
 keeping their protocols proprietary.

 Of course there remains a small but finite probability that Skype will be
 successfully reverse-engineered, the Source Code leaked, or Skype's owners
 forced to publish its communications protocols before the 2013 deadline.  But
 it would be extreme folly to bet the family farm on this happening.

 It's time to start seriously evaluating Asterisk-compatible alternatives to
 Skype.

Sadly, my experience in the SOHO environment is that Skype wins.

I tried to get my family to all use SIP videophones - and it worked for a 
couple of years - mostly. The downside was that they're mostly using crap 
domestic quality broadband and trying to use a videophone, or even a 
soft-phone on a PC just seemed too hard for them to grasp. They *all* 
moved to Skype recently - and I have to say I've been totally blown away 
at the ease of use and the quality of the calls - both sound and video. 
(And I'm using Linux too)

The other thing - LAN to LAN calls STAY ON THE LAN! So I can Skype my 
wife next door and it doesn't use up any of my own broadband bandwidth 
wheras if I use a hosted SIP service, calls go out  come back in again. 
Skype also seems to be able to run the lines at max. rate too - some sort 
of adaptive bandwidth - we get large and high resolution video calls from 
one end of the country to the other with the output bandwidth running at 
near max (800Kb sec in our case)

And now I'm seeing some of my smaller business customers using Skype. For 
serious business calls too. It's free. They get video. It just works. No 
fiddling with NAT, port forwarding, never any hint of one-way audio.

I really was skeptical at first, but Skype is here to stay - mostly 
because it just works. Even a complete computer idiot can install it and 
make it work. Give them a SIP phone, or SIP softphone and tell them to set 
it up and they'll just leave it alone as too complicated.

As for interoerability - well there's Skype-Out. It works, it's set at a 
reasonable price level, so what more do you need?

Once upon a time I would block Skype from working inside a corporate LAN 
and would recomend against it's use - now I'm told to explicitly allow it.

Times are changing and I'm finding it harder to persuade small businesses 
to use SIP phones - and why should they...

Gordon

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Re: [asterisk-users] Skype For Asterisk (SFA)

2011-11-16 Thread Kevin P. Fleming

On 11/16/2011 10:44 AM, Gordon Henderson wrote:


The other thing - LAN to LAN calls STAY ON THE LAN! So I can Skype my
wife next door and it doesn't use up any of my own broadband bandwidth
wheras if I use a hosted SIP service, calls go out  come back in again.
Skype also seems to be able to run the lines at max. rate too - some
sort of adaptive bandwidth - we get large and high resolution video
calls from one end of the country to the other with the output bandwidth
running at near max (800Kb sec in our case)


As SIP endpoints (servers, phones, etc.) get upgraded to support the ICE 
NAT traversal mechanism, this will start happening for regular SIP calls 
as well. This *should* already happen with the Blink softphone, for 
example, since it fully supports ICE.


Also note that you are using the term 'calls' when you really mean 
'media streams'; in all of the cases you outlined, the 'call' signaling 
still follows the same path it did originally, but the media stream path 
can be shortened if the two endpoints are able to exchange media directly.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 10.0.0-rc1 Now Available

2011-11-16 Thread Kevin P. Fleming

On 11/16/2011 02:17 AM, Eyal wrote:

Hey,
There is a way to use the new confbridg without installing the new
version of Asterisk,
I'm new in using asterisk, my is version 1.6.2 of Asterisk.
I would not want just to get into the installation of a new version just
for a one commend which I have very great need.


It's not 'one command', it's an entire application that relies on new 
media descriptions and other core pieces of Asterisk itself.


The simple answer is no; the app_confbridge from Asterisk 10 cannot be 
practically backported or used with previous releases of Asterisk.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Server-to-server BLF

2011-11-16 Thread Kevin P. Fleming

On 11/16/2011 04:18 AM, Ronald Cepres wrote:

Hi all,

Do you have an idea on the best way on how to implement a system with
multiple Asterisk servers with BLF working in such a way that a peer on
one server can subscribe to another peer on the other server in a
seamless manner? Has anyone set-up a system like this before?


Here is one way:

https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Distributed+Device+State+with+AIS

There are other methods documented on the wiki as well.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Skype For Asterisk (SFA)

2011-11-16 Thread Charles Alvis
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Kevin P. Fleming kpflem...@digium.comwrote:

 As SIP endpoints (servers, phones, etc.) get upgraded to support the ICE
 NAT traversal mechanism, this will start happening for regular SIP calls as
 well. This *should* already happen with the Blink softphone, for example,
 since it fully supports ICE.


Hi Kevin,

Just curious on when we should expect to see the manufactures get on board
with the ICE NAT?  Does any particular manufacture stand out in
implementing ICE NAT in their endpoints currently?  Also what is Digium
doing to promote it?
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Re: [asterisk-users] Becoming a CLEC

2011-11-16 Thread Alex Balashov

On 11/16/2011 10:30 AM, eherr wrote:


But what is the correct physical setup of a CLEC.


There is no correct physical setup.  The setups vary as much as 
anything else does, and are shaped mainly by the purpose of the CLEC 
and the range of products it provides.



Do you get rack space at a carrier hotel and equipment in there?


CLECs that provide a substantial range of business-class voice and 
data services usually have quite a bit of equipment and either end up 
building out their own telco-grade data center somewhere (which can be 
synergistic for many of them since they are also data center operators 
in general), or renting a cage in a carrier hotel.


There are CLECs whose equipment can functionally fit into a single 
rack, or even less, but those are the specialised, single-track ones 
that mainly exist to support the back side of some VoIP product.  In 
cases where only one or two racks are involved, a carrier hotel is 
indeed a common venue.



Do you get rack space at the local ILEC CO?; which is Verizon
here.


Yes, but _only_ for the purpose of colocating equipment that is 
related to backhaul and CFA, i.e. to providing services out of that CO 
and dragging the last-mile loops to the customer out of the CO and 
onto your private network.


A CO and the equipment allowed it is a very restrictive and regulated 
environment full of equipment certification criteria and obscure 
rules.  It will seem especially restrictive if you're used to working 
with commodity PC hardware and open-source;  virtually nothing of the 
sort is allowed to be colocated in a CO.


Also, keep in mind that COs generally have 23 telco racks (not 19 
data racks) and supply -48V DC, or, at best, 220V AC.


Space in a busy metro CO is very expensive.  You really don't want to 
think of it as a general-purpose colocation facility.  That's not what 
it's for.



What are the types of voice platforms used by CLECs?


The answer to that varies a great deal depending on the services being 
provided.  But in general, CLECs use converged softswitches that offer 
them the combination of 1) TDM facilities and Class 4 routing features 
they need, along with (obviously) SS7 support and support for more 
obscure protocols that become very important in CLEC land, such as 
H.248/MEGACO, MGCP, etc. and 2) Class 5 subscriber features and 
applications so they can sell business lines, hosted PBX, etc.


CLECs generally are looking for all of that in one chassis, with the 
obvious redundancy implications as well.  They want something that 
they can connect to the ILEC tandems while simultaneously supporting 
constructs as high-level as voicemail or find-me-follow-me.


Common platforms in the wild:

- MetaSwitch (Class 4/5)
- Sonus (rather Class 4 and IP-oriented)
- Lucent Compact Switch - formerly Telica (quite Class 4)
- Taqua
- Excel
- Tekelec

Broadsoft and Cisco BTS (not so much anymore) figures every heavily 
into this, but they're slightly different animals than the rest.


That's just the formulaic stuff.  The big CLECs have all sorts of 
custom stuff, such as Level3's famed Lucent TNT Max-based Viper 
network and corresponding media gateway control/signaling gateways.


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[asterisk-users] polycom soundpint ip650 question

2011-11-16 Thread eherr
On the polycom soundpoint ip 650 six line phone:

 

Say I have 4 lines on hold, is there way to tell who I put on hold.

 

I cannot see the caller ID of the other lines, only the last line I placed on 
hold.

 

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Re: [asterisk-users] Limit monthly calls by context

2011-11-16 Thread Sammy Govind
I'd say try a2billing- thats abit of an overkill for just this
functionality but you'll get lot or options to play with there.

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:02 PM, ad...@3a.hu wrote:

 Hello Hans,


 On 11-16-2011 14:46, Hans Goossen wrote:

  I guess some billing solution can do the trick, but I think it's too
 much for that little. I don't need any other feature.


 i would create a macro which calls an agi.  The agi searches the CDR table
 (mine is in sql) and calculates if the call can go through.  Then i'd call
 this macro from every extension in the dial plan just before the dial cmd.


  I was thinking something like checking the CDR before make the call, I
 know it may permit some extra minutes to be used, but it really doesn't
 need to be that exact. A couple of extra minutes won't hurt.


 It depends on the number of simultaneous calls from within the same
 context.  The agi can return a number of seconds (calculated from sql)
 which the dial cmd can use as an absolute limit and after that amount of
 seconds it can hang up the call (see S or L flags).

 regards
 adam


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Re: [asterisk-users] Skype For Asterisk (SFA)

2011-11-16 Thread A J Stiles
On Wednesday 16 November 2011, Gordon Henderson wrote:
 On Wed, 16 Nov 2011, A J Stiles wrote:
  You would be better off persuading Skype users to transition to something
  else.
 Sadly, my experience in the SOHO environment is that Skype wins.
 [stuff deleted]
 And now I'm seeing some of my smaller business customers using Skype. For
 serious business calls too. It's free. They get video. It just works. No
 fiddling with NAT, port forwarding, never any hint of one-way audio.
 [stuff deleted]
 As for interoerability - well there's Skype-Out. It works, it's set at a
 reasonable price level, so what more do you need?

I need a rock-solid guarantee that nobody can pick up the ball and go home, 
leaving all former users effectively stranded.

A single-vendor proprietary solution is a *massive* single-point failure.  
Multiple, competing but mutually-compatible proprietary solutions slightly 
less so.  If there is even just one Open Source implementation out there, then 
this sort of thing can never happen.
 
 Once upon a time I would block Skype from working inside a corporate LAN
 and would recomend against it's use - now I'm told to explicitly allow it.

Nothing goes near my company's LAN without Source Code.  I figure if they don't 
want you to see it, there must be something in it that they wouldn't expect 
you to like it if you saw it.  The level of paranoia on Skype's part only 
reinforces that impression.
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] polycom soundpint ip650 question

2011-11-16 Thread Danny Nicholas
Core show channels verbose - if you do asterisk -rx cscv from bash

 

From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of eherr
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 12:06 PM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: [asterisk-users] polycom soundpint ip650 question

 

On the polycom soundpoint ip 650 six line phone:

 

Say I have 4 lines on hold, is there way to tell who I put on hold.

 

I cannot see the caller ID of the other lines, only the last line I placed
on hold.

 

Thanks,

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[asterisk-users] Polycom Attended Transfer

2011-11-16 Thread eherr
When you perform an attended transfer, the extension of the person transferring 
is displayed to the co-worker.

 

Can I override the caller ID to display the caller's callerID during a blind 
transfer?

 

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Re: [asterisk-users] polycom soundpint ip650 question

2011-11-16 Thread eherr
Thanks for the response.

 

What you described is for the CLI.

 

I am asking is there a way on the phone itself or is there a phone that does 
have this capability.

 

Thanks,

--E

 

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Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 1:49 PM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] polycom soundpint ip650 question

 

Core show channels verbose - if you do asterisk -rx cscv from bash

 

From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com 
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of eherr
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 12:06 PM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: [asterisk-users] polycom soundpint ip650 question

 

On the polycom soundpoint ip 650 six line phone:

 

Say I have 4 lines on hold, is there way to tell who I put on hold.

 

I cannot see the caller ID of the other lines, only the last line I placed on 
hold.

 

Thanks,

--E

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Re: [asterisk-users] Polycom Attended Transfer

2011-11-16 Thread Danny Nicholas
Upgrade to 10.0 - this isn't available in any of the 1.X flavors because
they had to re-invent the background stuff for it.

 

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Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 12:50 PM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: [asterisk-users] Polycom Attended Transfer

 

When you perform an attended transfer, the extension of the person
transferring is displayed to the co-worker.

 

Can I override the caller ID to display the caller's callerID during a blind
transfer?

 

Thanks,

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Re: [asterisk-users] polycom soundpint ip650 question

2011-11-16 Thread Danny Nicholas
You might be able to use hints/buddies.

 

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Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 12:52 PM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] polycom soundpint ip650 question

 

Thanks for the response.

 

What you described is for the CLI.

 

I am asking is there a way on the phone itself or is there a phone that does
have this capability.

 

Thanks,

--E

 

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[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Danny Nicholas
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 1:49 PM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] polycom soundpint ip650 question

 

Core show channels verbose - if you do asterisk -rx cscv from bash

 

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Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 12:06 PM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: [asterisk-users] polycom soundpint ip650 question

 

On the polycom soundpoint ip 650 six line phone:

 

Say I have 4 lines on hold, is there way to tell who I put on hold.

 

I cannot see the caller ID of the other lines, only the last line I placed
on hold.

 

Thanks,

--E

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Re: [asterisk-users] Limit monthly calls by context

2011-11-16 Thread Danny Nicholas
You can do this with a global variable and a dedicated context.

 

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Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 12:25 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Limit monthly calls by context

 

I'd say try a2billing- thats abit of an overkill for just this functionality
but you'll get lot or options to play with there.

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:02 PM, ad...@3a.hu wrote:

Hello Hans,



On 11-16-2011 14:46, Hans Goossen wrote:

I guess some billing solution can do the trick, but I think it's too much
for that little. I don't need any other feature.

 

i would create a macro which calls an agi.  The agi searches the CDR table
(mine is in sql) and calculates if the call can go through.  Then i'd call
this macro from every extension in the dial plan just before the dial cmd.

 

I was thinking something like checking the CDR before make the call, I know
it may permit some extra minutes to be used, but it really doesn't need to
be that exact. A couple of extra minutes won't hurt.

 

It depends on the number of simultaneous calls from within the same context.
The agi can return a number of seconds (calculated from sql) which the dial
cmd can use as an absolute limit and after that amount of seconds it can
hang up the call (see S or L flags).

regards
adam



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Re: [asterisk-users] Polycom Attended Transfer

2011-11-16 Thread Richard Mudgett
 When you perform an attended transfer, the extension of the person
 transferring is displayed to the co-worker.
 
 Can I override the caller ID to display the caller’s callerID during a
 blind transfer?

 Upgrade to 10.0 – this isn’t available in any of the 1.X flavors
 because they had to re-invent the background stuff for it.

Asterisk v1.8 added the connected line support not Asterisk v10.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Polycom Attended Transfer

2011-11-16 Thread eherr
So there is no way to do these with programming.

For instance, setting a variable in the DB and grabbing it to override the 
field when transferring?

-Original Message-
From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com 
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Richard Mudgett
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 2:07 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Polycom Attended Transfer

 When you perform an attended transfer, the extension of the person
 transferring is displayed to the co-worker.
 
 Can I override the caller ID to display the caller’s callerID during a
 blind transfer?

 Upgrade to 10.0 – this isn’t available in any of the 1.X flavors
 because they had to re-invent the background stuff for it.

Asterisk v1.8 added the connected line support not Asterisk v10.

Richard

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Re: [asterisk-users] Limit monthly calls by context

2011-11-16 Thread A J Stiles
On Wednesday 16 November 2011, Hans Goossen wrote:
 Hello group,
 
 I have this situation:
 
 I have several contexts with a few extensions each one. I need to give
 every context a limited quantity of minutes they can use. All the
 extensions in the context will share the same bag of minutes. Meaning
 ext 101 use 1900 mins, ext 102 60 mins and ext 40 mins. The limit must be
 monthly.
 
 I guess some billing solution can do the trick, but I think it's too much
 for that little. I don't need any other feature.
 
 I was thinking something like checking the CDR before make the call, I know
 it may permit some extra minutes to be used, but it really doesn't need
 to be that exact. A couple of extra minutes won't hurt.
 
 Ideas, suggestions ?

Set a global variable or several in the beginning of the dialplan with the 
monthly allowance for each context.  In the h extension of each time-limited 
context, subtract the duration of the call just made from the global.  In each 
extension which is time-limited, replace Dial() with a call to a macro which 
either actually executes the Dial() if there is any time remaining  (and uses 
that as an absolute timeout value), otherwise plays a message.

If you need the remaining allowances to persist across reboots / dialplan 
reloads, you'll have to have an AGI write them to a file which you can #include 
in the [globals] section of the dialplan.  A cron job can then be used to 
reset the allowances at the beginning of each month, by copying a pristine 
file over it.

Note it's still possible to go over with this method, because the remaining 
time is only recalculated at hangup, but you said it didn't have to be exact.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Polycom Attended Transfer

2011-11-16 Thread Richard Mudgett
  When you perform an attended transfer, the extension of the person
  transferring is displayed to the co-worker.
 
  Can I override the caller ID to display the caller’s callerID
  during a
  blind transfer?
 
  Upgrade to 10.0 – this isn’t available in any of the 1.X flavors
  because they had to re-invent the background stuff for it.
 
 Asterisk v1.8 added the connected line support not Asterisk v10.
 
 So there is no way to do these with programming.
 
 For instance, setting a variable in the DB and grabbing it to override
 the field when transferring?
 

See
https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Manipulating+Party+ID+Information

This applies to v1.8 and later.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Limit monthly calls by context

2011-11-16 Thread Danny Nicholas
If you store the Global in DB and read it back from DB, it can persist
across reboots and reloads.

-Original Message-
From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of A J Stiles
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 1:13 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Limit monthly calls by context

On Wednesday 16 November 2011, Hans Goossen wrote:
 Hello group,
 
 I have this situation:
 
 I have several contexts with a few extensions each one. I need to give 
 every context a limited quantity of minutes they can use. All the 
 extensions in the context will share the same bag of minutes. 
 Meaning ext 101 use 1900 mins, ext 102 60 mins and ext 40 mins. The 
 limit must be monthly.
 
 I guess some billing solution can do the trick, but I think it's too 
 much for that little. I don't need any other feature.
 
 I was thinking something like checking the CDR before make the call, I 
 know it may permit some extra minutes to be used, but it really 
 doesn't need to be that exact. A couple of extra minutes won't hurt.
 
 Ideas, suggestions ?

Set a global variable or several in the beginning of the dialplan with the
monthly allowance for each context.  In the h extension of each
time-limited context, subtract the duration of the call just made from the
global.  In each extension which is time-limited, replace Dial() with a call
to a macro which either actually executes the Dial() if there is any time
remaining  (and uses that as an absolute timeout value), otherwise plays a
message.

If you need the remaining allowances to persist across reboots / dialplan
reloads, you'll have to have an AGI write them to a file which you can
#include in the [globals] section of the dialplan.  A cron job can then be
used to reset the allowances at the beginning of each month, by copying a
pristine 
file over it.

Note it's still possible to go over with this method, because the remaining
time is only recalculated at hangup, but you said it didn't have to be
exact.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Polycom Attended Transfer

2011-11-16 Thread eherr
Unfortunately, I only have 1.4.26 installed.

What's the next stable version?

Should I go to 1.6, 1.8, or 10

Thanks,
--E

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From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com 
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Richard Mudgett
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 2:21 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Polycom Attended Transfer

  When you perform an attended transfer, the extension of the person
  transferring is displayed to the co-worker.
 
  Can I override the caller ID to display the caller’s callerID
  during a
  blind transfer?
 
  Upgrade to 10.0 – this isn’t available in any of the 1.X flavors
  because they had to re-invent the background stuff for it.
 
 Asterisk v1.8 added the connected line support not Asterisk v10.
 
 So there is no way to do these with programming.
 
 For instance, setting a variable in the DB and grabbing it to override
 the field when transferring?
 

See
https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Manipulating+Party+ID+Information

This applies to v1.8 and later.

Richard

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Re: [asterisk-users] Polycom Attended Transfer

2011-11-16 Thread Ryan Wagoner
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:49 PM, eherr email.eherr9...@gmail.com wrote:
 When you perform an attended transfer, the extension of the person
 transferring is displayed to the co-worker.



 Can I override the caller ID to display the caller’s callerID during a blind
 transfer?



 Thanks,

 --E


The point of an attended transfer is to announce the calling party.
When you hit transfer on the Polycom you have the option to select
Blind on the screen. A blind transfer will use the caller id of the
incoming call, not the person making the transfer.

Ryan

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Re: [asterisk-users] Polycom Attended Transfer

2011-11-16 Thread eherr
I understand and agree.

There is one client who prefers having the attended transfer still display the 
original caller ID because some users still just hit
transfer and hangup. The boss has a few times got caught saying What when he 
thought it was an internal call but really wasn't.



-Original Message-
From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com 
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Wagoner
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 3:14 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Polycom Attended Transfer

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:49 PM, eherr email.eherr9...@gmail.com wrote:
 When you perform an attended transfer, the extension of the person
 transferring is displayed to the co-worker.



 Can I override the caller ID to display the caller's callerID during a blind
 transfer?



 Thanks,

 --E


The point of an attended transfer is to announce the calling party.
When you hit transfer on the Polycom you have the option to select
Blind on the screen. A blind transfer will use the caller id of the
incoming call, not the person making the transfer.

Ryan

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Re: [asterisk-users] Polycom Attended Transfer

2011-11-16 Thread Danny Nicholas
Have you tried the conferencing button?

-Original Message-
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[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of eherr
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 2:54 PM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Polycom Attended Transfer

I understand and agree.

There is one client who prefers having the attended transfer still display
the original caller ID because some users still just hit transfer and
hangup. The boss has a few times got caught saying What when he thought it
was an internal call but really wasn't.



-Original Message-
From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Wagoner
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 3:14 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Polycom Attended Transfer

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:49 PM, eherr email.eherr9...@gmail.com wrote:
 When you perform an attended transfer, the extension of the person 
 transferring is displayed to the co-worker.



 Can I override the caller ID to display the caller's callerID during a 
 blind transfer?



 Thanks,

 --E


The point of an attended transfer is to announce the calling party.
When you hit transfer on the Polycom you have the option to select Blind on
the screen. A blind transfer will use the caller id of the incoming call,
not the person making the transfer.

Ryan

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Re: [asterisk-users] Standard UIDs, especially for asterisk?

2011-11-16 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 04:53:02PM +, Tony Mountifield wrote:
 In article 4ec296b9.8040...@digium.com,
 Jason Parker jpar...@digium.com wrote:
  On 11/15/2011 10:42 AM, Tony Mountifield wrote:
   Yes, I was hoping to use such a system user and group for asterisk, which
   would not conflict with any other system package I might install in the
   future, by virtue of being reserved for asterisk.
   
  
  There shouldn't be any conflict either way.  (Properly written) packages 
  don't
  specify a UID to use - they just get created sequentially, so the next 
  available
  ID is used.
 
 If that were the case, I would expect different installations of the
 same distro (with varying package selections) to have different values
 for UIDs of specific system users.  But examination of several different
 RH-based systems from FC1 through to CentOS 6 shows the same values
 being used.  I would be reluctant to label all such packages as
 improperly written :-)

RPM and DEB work differently in this case. With deb packages you just
extract the package onto the system. If anything is non-root it is
extracted by UID. However typically all the files are owned by root and
if there's any need to change ownership, it is done by the post-install
script.

RPM has a different way: it keeps record of the user and group *name* of
each packaged file. When the file is unpacked, it applies the UID and
GIU of the user/group from the current system. Thus if a file belongs to
'mysql' and mysql's UID on the system is 56, it will be chown-ed to 56.
This is why users and groups need to be created in a pre-install script:
before the package is unpacked.

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[asterisk-users] Grandstream HT503 colgado

2011-11-16 Thread bakko

Hola,

estoy instalando un ATA HT503 de Grandstream conectado a Asterisk y todo 
funciona bastante bien (llamadas en entrada y salientes).


El unico problema que tengo es con el colgado. Si la llamada entrante va al 
buzón de voz y la persona cuelga... el canal queda abierto.


Será que alguien tiene o me puede indicar donde encontrar los parametros de 
colgado para una linea Telecom?


Muchas gracias de antemano

- Bakko 



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[asterisk-users] Use Polycom FX with Asterisk

2011-11-16 Thread Malvin Rito

Hi List,
I have a Polycom FX video unit and I'm thinking maybe I can integrate it 
on our Asterisk Server to be able to do teleconference and video as well 
via Polycom FX.


I already have oh323 configured on my Asterisk box and I just no idea on 
how to let them work.Any help please?


Regards,
Malvin
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