Re: [asterisk-users] Enhanced Messaging and softphones
On Fri, Jan 18, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Olivier wrote: > > > Le ven. 18 janv. 2019 à 17:30, Joshua C. Colp a écrit : > > > > > > > > > > You mean with a softphone you can't select a single (or several) video > > > among those available, can you ? > > > Even with DTMF sequence and some features.conf magic, a user cannot ask > > > to receive a specific video stream ? > > > > > > (forgive me if my question seems naive or irrelevant but I didn't dare > > > to try or install anything yet) > > > > This is not currently supported in any video mode in ConfBridge. > > So currently, any incoming video flux is forwarded to all ConfBridge > participants (except if forwarding is cobntrolled/tuned by an external > app) ? There are different available video modes[1] which control the behavior. "sfu" attempts to negotiate additional video streams with each participant to carry the other people in the conference. [1] https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+16+Configuration_app_confbridge#Asterisk16Configuration_app_confbridge-bridge_profile_video_mode -- Joshua C. Colp Digium - A Sangoma Company | Senior Software Developer 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - US Check us out at: www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- Check out the new Asterisk community forum at: https://community.asterisk.org/ New to Asterisk? Start here: https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Getting+Started asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Enhanced Messaging and softphones
Le ven. 18 janv. 2019 à 17:30, Joshua C. Colp a écrit : > > > > > > You mean with a softphone you can't select a single (or several) video > > among those available, can you ? > > Even with DTMF sequence and some features.conf magic, a user cannot ask > > to receive a specific video stream ? > > > > (forgive me if my question seems naive or irrelevant but I didn't dare > > to try or install anything yet) > > This is not currently supported in any video mode in ConfBridge. > So currently, any incoming video flux is forwarded to all ConfBridge participants (except if forwarding is cobntrolled/tuned by an external app) ? > > > > > > From a messaging perspective it has to support the JSON payload that > > Asterisk is using in ConfBridge. This conveys additional information > > that a straight up chat message wouldn't. > > Do you mean Asterisk receives and send SIP messages with embeded JSON > > Payload ? > > Is there a specific name for such behaviour (something that could help > > to check if a SIP library or client supports this) ? > > There's not really a name or anything, except for our content type that we > came up with. It's not defined as a standard or an RFC. Within ConfBridge > the messages are exchanged using JSON between Asterisk and client. > This is now very clear, for me. Thanks again > > -- > Joshua C. Colp > Digium - A Sangoma Company | Senior Software Developer > 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - US > Check us out at: www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org > > -- > _ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > Check out the new Asterisk community forum at: > https://community.asterisk.org/ > > New to Asterisk? Start here: > https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Getting+Started > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- Check out the new Asterisk community forum at: https://community.asterisk.org/ New to Asterisk? Start here: https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Getting+Started asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Enhanced Messaging and softphones
> > You mean with a softphone you can't select a single (or several) video > among those available, can you ? > Even with DTMF sequence and some features.conf magic, a user cannot ask > to receive a specific video stream ? > > (forgive me if my question seems naive or irrelevant but I didn't dare > to try or install anything yet) This is not currently supported in any video mode in ConfBridge. > > > From a messaging perspective it has to support the JSON payload that > Asterisk is using in ConfBridge. This conveys additional information > that a straight up chat message wouldn't. > Do you mean Asterisk receives and send SIP messages with embeded JSON > Payload ? > Is there a specific name for such behaviour (something that could help > to check if a SIP library or client supports this) ? There's not really a name or anything, except for our content type that we came up with. It's not defined as a standard or an RFC. Within ConfBridge the messages are exchanged using JSON between Asterisk and client. -- Joshua C. Colp Digium - A Sangoma Company | Senior Software Developer 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - US Check us out at: www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- Check out the new Asterisk community forum at: https://community.asterisk.org/ New to Asterisk? Start here: https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Getting+Started asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Enhanced Messaging and softphones
Thanks for your (fast) reply ! Le ven. 18 janv. 2019 à 16:32, Joshua C. Colp a écrit : > On Fri, Jan 18, 2019, at 11:22 AM, Olivier wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I've just read in [1] about SIP MESSAGE addition to both chan_pjsip and > > ConfBridge. > > It seems very interesting addition as it brings the capability to mix > > voice, video and text in conferencing. > > > > On an other hand, there are some softphones (Zoiper, Bria, ...) that > > tout voice, video and chat capability. > > Though Enhanced Messaging solution described in [1] seems more > > attractive to me in the long run, I wonder if it could easier to > > quickly set a demo using softphone instead of a web application. > > > > In this case, was I'm failing to understand is is there anything > > missing in Confbridge for chat conferencing with softphones. > > May I add I read [2] which mentions sending of "custom JSON message". > > > > My questions are: > > > > 1. Do such softphones use compatible SIP MESSAGE to implement chat > feature ? > > If negative, what is the missing block that should be present along > Asterisk ? > > > > 2. Is there a different class of clients (I'm think of Riot clients) as > > opposed to softphones that support Confbridge voice, video and test > > features ? > > I'm not aware of any softphone that supports the functionality. From a > video perspective it has to support multiple video streams and displaying > them (Asterisk doesn't do video transcoding or mixing). You mean with a softphone you can't select a single (or several) video among those available, can you ? Even with DTMF sequence and some features.conf magic, a user cannot ask to receive a specific video stream ? (forgive me if my question seems naive or irrelevant but I didn't dare to try or install anything yet) > From a messaging perspective it has to support the JSON payload that > Asterisk is using in ConfBridge. This conveys additional information that a > straight up chat message wouldn't. > Do you mean Asterisk receives and send SIP messages with embeded JSON Payload ? Is there a specific name for such behaviour (something that could help to check if a SIP library or client supports this) ? > > -- > Joshua C. Colp > Digium - A Sangoma Company | Senior Software Developer > 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - US > Check us out at: www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org > > -- > _ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > Check out the new Asterisk community forum at: > https://community.asterisk.org/ > > New to Asterisk? Start here: > https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Getting+Started > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- Check out the new Asterisk community forum at: https://community.asterisk.org/ New to Asterisk? Start here: https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Getting+Started asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Enhanced Messaging and softphones
On Fri, Jan 18, 2019, at 11:22 AM, Olivier wrote: > Hello, > > I've just read in [1] about SIP MESSAGE addition to both chan_pjsip and > ConfBridge. > It seems very interesting addition as it brings the capability to mix > voice, video and text in conferencing. > > On an other hand, there are some softphones (Zoiper, Bria, ...) that > tout voice, video and chat capability. > Though Enhanced Messaging solution described in [1] seems more > attractive to me in the long run, I wonder if it could easier to > quickly set a demo using softphone instead of a web application. > > In this case, was I'm failing to understand is is there anything > missing in Confbridge for chat conferencing with softphones. > May I add I read [2] which mentions sending of "custom JSON message". > > My questions are: > > 1. Do such softphones use compatible SIP MESSAGE to implement chat feature ? > If negative, what is the missing block that should be present along Asterisk ? > > 2. Is there a different class of clients (I'm think of Riot clients) as > opposed to softphones that support Confbridge voice, video and test > features ? I'm not aware of any softphone that supports the functionality. From a video perspective it has to support multiple video streams and displaying them (Asterisk doesn't do video transcoding or mixing). From a messaging perspective it has to support the JSON payload that Asterisk is using in ConfBridge. This conveys additional information that a straight up chat message wouldn't. -- Joshua C. Colp Digium - A Sangoma Company | Senior Software Developer 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - US Check us out at: www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- Check out the new Asterisk community forum at: https://community.asterisk.org/ New to Asterisk? Start here: https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Getting+Started asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Enhanced Messaging and softphones
Hello, I've just read in [1] about SIP MESSAGE addition to both chan_pjsip and ConfBridge. It seems very interesting addition as it brings the capability to mix voice, video and text in conferencing. On an other hand, there are some softphones (Zoiper, Bria, ...) that tout voice, video and chat capability. Though Enhanced Messaging solution described in [1] seems more attractive to me in the long run, I wonder if it could easier to quickly set a demo using softphone instead of a web application. In this case, was I'm failing to understand is is there anything missing in Confbridge for chat conferencing with softphones. May I add I read [2] which mentions sending of "custom JSON message". My questions are: 1. Do such softphones use compatible SIP MESSAGE to implement chat feature ? If negative, what is the missing block that should be present along Asterisk ? 2. Is there a different class of clients (I'm think of Riot clients) as opposed to softphones that support Confbridge voice, video and test features ? Best regards [1] https://blogs.asterisk.org/2018/08/29/enrich-your-conference-app-with-asterisk-enhanced-messaging-part-1/ [2] https://community.asterisk.org/t/conference-participant-messaging/77755 -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- Check out the new Asterisk community forum at: https://community.asterisk.org/ New to Asterisk? Start here: https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Getting+Started asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
