Re: [asterisk-users] What is the best way to campaign dial 5000 numbers? Spool files or AMI actions?

2012-02-11 Thread David Backeberg
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:03 AM, asterisk jobs asteriskcod...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 Using Asterisk 1.6x here with a TDM PRI. I have to run a campaign for about
 5000 numbers and then put the call to agents right away and pull up the CRM
 based on the number dialed. So, I am going to be doing some PHP+Ajax work. I
 am familiar with spool files but I don't like the fact that I can't read the
 status of the call in real-time. However, I know that it's the easiest way
 to approach the issue.

The way to call 5000 numbers is to call one number, really well. Then
you put it in a loop. You need to run a lab for long enough that you
have the bugs worked out, before you subject real people to problems.

With asterisk you can always tell the real-time status of a call, even
if you initiate from a call file. Perhaps you would enjoy reading up
on Local channels. Some people prefer to initiate calls from AMI. I
tried it and didn't like it.

But because most of us have been annoyed by an autodialer in our
lives, even if we ourselves have made autodialers in the past, this is
probably about the limit of the help you're going to get, unless you
ask a more specific question that shows you've been trying to learn
this hands-on and you've gotten stuck on a particular problem.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Executing Script after MixMonitor is called

2012-01-26 Thread David Backeberg
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Faraj Khasib fkha...@iconnecths.com wrote:
 Hello Guys,
 I am trying to convert files that are .wac to mp3 after mixmonitor command is 
 called but it doesnt execute the command, I tried the command in terminal it 
 worked, any help please ... below is my dial plan
 exten=6500,n,Set(MIXMONITOR_EXEC= nice -n 19 /usr/local/bin/lame -b 8 -t -F 
 -m m --bitwidth 8 --quiet /var/spool/asterisk/monitor/${CALLFILENAME}.wav 
 /var/spool/asterisk/monitor/${CALLFILENAME}.mp3  rm -f 
 /var/spool/asterisk/monitor/${CALLFILENAME}.wav)
 exten=6500,n,MixMonitor(${CALLFILENAME}.wav,b)

One obvious thing to try is to make sure that when you're making your
shell test that you are running the shell as the same user that
asterisk is running as.

Set your console to at least verbose = 3, and run the dialplan. What
do you get for the error?

I will say just looking at that code, you have a mess. It would be
simpler to debug if you made a short shell script that consisted of
something like

shebang /path/to/bash

PATH=$1
lame --arguments $1.wav $1.mp3
if [ -f {$1}.mp3 ] ; then
 rm {$1}.wav

and then call that script with the argument that is the path to the
file. Will make your dialplan easier to debug, and still get you the
equivalent functionality.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Executing Script after MixMonitor is called

2012-01-26 Thread David Backeberg
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 7:18 PM, David Backeberg dbackeb...@gmail.com wrote:
 shebang /path/to/bash

 PATH=$1
 lame --arguments $1.wav $1.mp3
 if [ -f {$1}.mp3 ] ; then
  rm {$1}.wav

And my silly code sample hasn't been debugged, and I can spot one
glaring bug, and another less important bug. (gotta close the if with
a fi, I declare PATH and never use it, and I'm not certain that the
declare will work without a 'declare' statement)

Your dialplan sample was missing an essential step, which was

System()

that actually kicks off your command. You could also use it to kick
off the bash script, like
System(path_to_script path_argument_for_script)

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Re: [asterisk-users] Executing Script after MixMonitor is called

2012-01-26 Thread David Backeberg
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Steve Edwards
asterisk@sedwards.com wrote:
 The OP was using MIXMONITOR_EXEC (although I wonder about the '' syntax)
 so he doesn't need to explicitly execute (via system()) his commands.

Wow. Never knew that was possible. I still don't like the syntax, but
good to know.

For optimal debugging, I would suggest OP not try to build the
pyramids with a single line of commands joined by ampersands, but
rather do a separate System() call for either doing my script idea or
doing the individual commands in multiple separate System() calls.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Odd DTMF problem when receiving calls

2012-01-10 Thread David Backeberg
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Christopher David Howie
m...@chrishowie.com wrote:
 I've been up and down this issue for a few hours and I cannot for the
 life of me determine why simply defining a peer causes Asterisk to offer
 telephone-event.  I have tried specifying dtmfmode=rfc2833 or
 dtmfmode=auto in [global] and neither change has any effect.  As I said
 above, I've copied every configuration directive in [global] into the
 peer definition for the company PBX, and calls still work.

 So I'm at a loss to explain this.  The problem does not seem to stem
 from my configuration, but I'm not entirely sure what else could be the
 problem... an Asterisk bug perhaps?  I don't want to jump to that
 conclusion since this is my first day tinkering with the software.
 Perhaps someone more knowledgeable can steer me in the right direction?

Wheee. You don't say anything about what 'company PBX' is, so we just
have to guess based on your description. Based on your description,
your 'company PBX' requires that the endpoints it communicates be
registered before-hand. Having a definition for the sip peer in
asterisk makes asterisk continually register with the 'company PBX'.

So it is not necessarily your case that you think it is, that rfc2833
is required, but rather that for 'company PBX', any sip endpoint must
first be registered. Both asterisk and 'company PBX' probably support
large numbers of possible DTMF or signaling possibilities, and it's
not surprising that you can get away with several possible values.

If you do 'sip show peers', with and without the config in your
sip.conf (use ; to comment it out and 'sip reload' to commit your
changes), you should be able to verify that THIS is the real problem.

And no, this is not an asterisk bug.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone have a reliable T.38 Solution

2012-01-05 Thread David Backeberg
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Steve Underwood ste...@coppice.org wrote:
 No PAP2 or PAP2T supports T.38, even though many people will swear that they
 do. For a little while there was some beta code for the PAP2T with badly
 broken T.38 support. Perhaps this is where the legend of T.38 on a PAP2T
 started. Of course, on the internet, when someone posts an incorrect message
 many people would like to believe is right, a 1000 people cite it as proven
 fact.

Thanks for clearing that up. I was getting all excited that I could
flash the PAP2T; I've always used regular voice tones over SIP with
the PAP2Ts.

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Re: [asterisk-users] DAHDI-Linux 2.6.0 and DAHDI-Tools 2.6.0 Released

2012-01-05 Thread David Backeberg
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Asterisk Development Team
asteriskt...@digium.com wrote:
The Asterisk Development Team is pleased to announce the first
release of DAHDI-Linux 2.6.0 and DAHDI-Tools 2.6.0.

2.6.0 is a feature release which:

        wct4xxp: Expose serial number in dahdi_device and kernel log.

This is VERY exciting news. Thank you very much!

So much easier than having to schedule time to open a box when you
forgot to write down the serial number when doing the rack-and-stack.

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Re: [asterisk-users] 1.6 and 1.8

2011-12-29 Thread David Backeberg
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Danny Nicholas da...@debsinc.com wrote:
 Can somebody point me to an explanation from Kevin or Tzafir or someone else
 up the food chain explaining the differences/benefits of 1.6/1.8 vs
 1.4/10.0?

What's the difference between a car released in 2006 versus a car
released in 2012? Very complex question. Aside from reading the
changelogs, like others have suggested, you should understand that
asterisk is developed in a very public way, with open access to
source, bugs, and the ability of lots of people to provide patches.

Some feature requests are very difficult to honor without a major
rewrite of various layers. And the intervening releases made something
substantially better (well, some people will disagree; if you don't
need any of the newer features, you might be able to ram more calls
through an older version) or added more flexibility or more features.
If you are running 1.4 and want a feature that comes built-in with
1.6, nobody is going to have any sympathy for you when you say you
wish 1.4 did X feature.

Basically, if you want to participate in the public ecosystem where
you can find something you want improved, or you come across a bug,
you need to be at the stage of development where code changes are
still happening.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Using asterisk with DSP chips

2011-11-20 Thread David Backeberg
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Sazzad sazzadbinka...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 I have to use asterisk with some dedicated DSP chips, which will do the
 expensive G729 CODEC computing, so that the server processor has minimum
 load. I was informed, I've to use GPAK to implement this. So far I've

I had never heard of GPAK before your post, so I had to look it up. I
still do not really understand it.

There are at least a few ways to combine asterisk and G.729. And
honestly, I would say your problem is not so much the cpu load, but
the licensing, because G.729 is under patent. You can buy G.729
licenses from Digium, and do G.729 natively in asterisk.

http://store.digium.com/productview.php?category_id=5product_code=8G729CODEC

 Whether embedded scenario is a must for such development or is it possible
 to use asterisk on server and dsp's through some PCI/Ethernet?

It is also possible to have asterisk speak open codecs, like G.711,
and have another ethernet-connected device to the codec, and pay a
different vendor for that licensing.

For example, you can use a Cisco 3945, load it up with DSPs, and setup
the router config to do the transcoding between G.711 and G.729. I've
done this before, and it works, but you have to shell out $10k + for
the router and smartnet and all the DSPS if you are doing as many
simultaneous channels as I'm using.

But I'm still not sure this is your actual question. I realize English
is probably not your first language, however, if you contracted for a
job and you HAVE to use GPAC because somebody else told you that is
the job requirement, I have no idea how to do that.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 10.0.0-rc1 Now Available

2011-11-10 Thread David Backeberg
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Leif Madsen
leif.mad...@asteriskdocs.org wrote:
 On 11-11-10 12:12 PM, Danny Nicholas wrote:
 Yeah!  My boss will be much happier having a system that doesn't have the
 -tail on it.

 I hear this kind of statement every once in a while, which makes absolutely no
 sense to me. If you're blindly running a version of any software in production

Was thinking the same thing. And that it would be nice if all it took
to make my boss happy was backspace on a tarball filename.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Recording a meetme conference

2011-10-27 Thread David Backeberg
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Mike l...@net-wall.com wrote:
 I am trying to record a MeetMe conference, and this is what is relevant in
 the 1.8 manual:



 r - Record conference (records as MEETME_RECORDINGFILE using format
 MEETME_RECORDINGFORMAT. Default filename is
 meetme-conf-rec-${CONFNO}-${UNIQUEID} and the default format is wav.



 Which is fine, but , but how do I change the default filename. Let’s say I
 want /tmp/recording.wav?

There is not a rule against using Monitor() or MixMonitor() on the
entire channel. This might give you the control (format, filename) you
are looking for.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Running as non-root

2011-10-23 Thread David Backeberg
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Tzafrir Cohen tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 10:11:08AM -0400, David Backeberg wrote:

 If you use DAHDI, you need to change ownership of /dev/dahdi/* to the
 non-root owner. I ended up rolling that into the init script for
 dahdi.

 The init script of DAHDI or asterisk is the wrong place for that.

 If you're one of those who actually uses static files, you set their
 permissions at creation time or whenever.

 The rest of you: set the permissions in udev rules, as in the ones
 included with DAHDI. This avoids any potential races and unnecessary
 work.

Thanks for the tip. I just noticed that the permissions 'came undone'
if I did a DAHDI reload, so it seemed like the right place.

For the record, I'm also using SNMP with asterisk, also as non-root,
and I'm also having a problem with /var/lib/masterx or whatever also
reverting to being owned by root. And again, my presumptive fix is to
put the chown directly into the SNMP script.

Ideas?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Running as non-root

2011-10-19 Thread David Backeberg
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Torbjörn Abrahamsson
torbjorn.abrahams...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thank you, I actually found the asterisk.conf settings after sending the
 mail. So next question is which folders/files do I need to change ownership
 of to make it work?



 /etc/asterisk

 /var/lib/asterisk

 /usr/lib/asterisk

 /var/spool/asterisk

 /var/log/asterisk



 And the files in them of course… Any more? Any that should not be in the
 list above?

If you use DAHDI, you need to change ownership of /dev/dahdi/* to the
non-root owner. I ended up rolling that into the init script for
dahdi.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Vs 1.6 Vs 1.8

2011-09-12 Thread David Backeberg
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Tarek Sawah tareksa...@hotmail.com wrote:
 i wanted to upgrade to 1.6 .. i did and when tested it .. the server crashed 
 at 100 concurrent calls.
 please advise?

Nobody will know why your asterisk crashed unless you follow the
instructions here:

https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Getting+a+Backtrace

Please try that, and then rerun your call test.

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Re: [asterisk-users] trying to build 1.8.6.0 on CentOS 6, problems with ptlib

2011-09-07 Thread David Backeberg
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Leif Madsen
leif.mad...@asteriskdocs.org wrote:
 However you could select/deselect modules using menuselect if you wanted to
 automate the process. It's documented over here:

 http://ofps.oreilly.com/titles/9780596517342/asterisk-Install.html#Installing_id293439

Yeah, menuselect has been in linux kernel tree forever, and I was
excited when it got added to asterisk build. But that was irrelevant
because I wasn't getting the configure to complete. The configure is a
prerequisite for any of the make commands.

I'm also a big fan of 'make sounds'.

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[asterisk-users] trying to build 1.8.6.0 on CentOS 6, problems with ptlib

2011-09-06 Thread David Backeberg
I'm having annoying errors trying to get configure working.

tar xvzf /usr/local/src/asterisk-1.8.6.0.tar.gz
cd asterisk-1.8.6.0
./configure

I get complaints related to pwlib / ptlib...

checking for openr2_chan_new in -lopenr2... no
checking /root/pwlib/include/ptlib.h usability... no
checking /root/pwlib/include/ptlib.h presence... no
checking for /root/pwlib/include/ptlib.h... no
checking /usr/local/include/ptlib.h usability... no
checking /usr/local/include/ptlib.h presence... no
checking for /usr/local/include/ptlib.h... no
checking /usr/include/ptlib.h usability... yes
checking /usr/include/ptlib.h presence... yes
checking for /usr/include/ptlib.h... yes
checking for ptlib-config... /usr/bin/ptlib-config
./configure: line 24978: 2*1+6*100+5 /usr/lib64/ /usr/lib/:
division by 0 (error token is /lib64/ /usr/lib/)

There seems to also be a problem with CentOS 6 in general that I have
not found a package that actually provides /usr/bin/ptlib-config. I
copied that binary over from a CentOS 5 install to see if I could get
my original error to clear.

Here's THAT error...

checking for openr2_chan_new in -lopenr2... no
checking /root/pwlib/include/ptlib.h usability... no
checking /root/pwlib/include/ptlib.h presence... no
checking for /root/pwlib/include/ptlib.h... no
checking /usr/local/include/ptlib.h usability... no
checking /usr/local/include/ptlib.h presence... no
checking for /usr/local/include/ptlib.h... no
checking /usr/include/ptlib.h usability... yes
checking /usr/include/ptlib.h presence... yes
checking for /usr/include/ptlib.h... yes
checking for ptlib-config... no
./configure: line 24906: --ldflags: command not found
Cannot find ptlib-config - please install and try again

And then I searched around the config trying to figure out how not to
use ptlib at all, and ultimately I tried just doing...

rpm -e ptlib ptlib-devel (and the other packages)

And this got my asterisk configure to complete.

But really, I'm wondering if other people have run into the same
problem, or if there is a nifty configure argument that would keep me
from needing to uninstall the library.

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Re: [asterisk-users] trying to build 1.8.6.0 on CentOS 6, problems with ptlib

2011-09-06 Thread David Backeberg
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Kevin P. Fleming kpflem...@digium.com wrote:
 This is a bug in the configure script, but in the meantime, you should be
 able to use --without-pwlib to avoid it, as long as you aren't trying to
 build chan_h323.

Thanks much.

I was trying

./configure --disable-chan_ooh323

and that was not making a difference.

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Re: [asterisk-users] upgrading from 1.4.39 to 1.8.5

2011-09-02 Thread David Backeberg
read the 1.6 README and the 1.8 README.

If you're using SIP you should expect changes with account
authentication, faxing, output regarding channel status and
performance.

I think that version of 1.4 is late enough you would already be on
DAHDI for hardware devices. If not, you need to convert to DAHDI.

There are also features you might want to try out. Nobody but you
knows how you use your system. Do it on a test system before you put
it into production.

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:
 What sort of things should I watch out for when upgrading from 1.4.39 to
 1.8.5

 Thanks,
 --
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Re: [asterisk-users] Faxes suddenly failing

2011-09-01 Thread David Backeberg
That debug looks cool but I have no idea what it means.

If you are using T.38, turn it off, and do audio fax, recorded with MixMonitor.

When you can hear the audio of the fax hopefully you will be able to
tell what's going on, and if you're lucky it's something specific to
the particular kind of testing you are doing.

I don't think it's an exaggeration to say there have been hundreds of
posts over the last few years about broken T.38. Avoid it in favor of
traditional audio faxing. Even if you can control both endpoints,
there's just so much that can go wrong when faxing over voip. If you
need this to be 'reliable faxing', you should seriously consider doing
your faxes over copper. If you cannot afford that, it should be a
top-tier voip provider on a dedicated line, where you will not be
starving for bandwidth, and you should never compress the audio on
those calls.

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 7:27 PM, C F shma...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think you should change the subject line to:
 Faxes suddenly worked for 2 weeks.

 On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Tim King tim.compnetw...@gmail.com wrote:
 I realize that faxing is not great with voip but here is my confusion. I
 have been working on a web based fax system for 2 weeks. During this time I
 have sent over 100 2 page faxes without any errors. Now today as things are
 finally completed I can not seem to get any fax to go through unless it is a
 1 page cover only. Anyone able to tell the issue from this debug output?

    -- Channel 'SIP/MyVoipProvider-0046' FAX session '12' started
     -- FAX handle 0: [ 000.38 ], STAT_EVT_STRT_RX   st: IDLE
 rt: IDLENSRX
     -- FAX handle 0: [ 000.000184 ], STAT_EVT_RX_HW_RDY st: WT_RX_HW_RDY
 rt: RRDYNHRY
     -- FAX handle 0: [ 000.000504 ], P30EVN_RECEIVE_STARTED
     -- FAX handle 0: [ 000.000538 ], STAT_INFO_CSI
     -- FAX handle 0: [ 000.000568 ], STAT_INFO_DIS
     Channel 'SIP/MyVoipProvider-0046' fax session '12', [
 000.091837 ], stack sent 5 frames (100 ms) of energy.
     Channel 'SIP/MyVoipProvider-0046' fax session '12', [
 000.160248 ], stack sent 3 frames (60 ms) of silence.
     Channel 'SIP/MyVoipProvider-0046' fax session '12', [
 000.960201 ], channel sent 48 frames (960 ms) of silence.
     Channel 'SIP/MyVoipProvider-0046' fax session '12', [
 000.979464 ], channel sent 1 frames (20 ms) of energy.
     Channel 'SIP/MyVoipProvider-0046' fax session '12', [
 003.157848 ], stack sent 150 frames (3000 ms) of energy.
     Channel 'SIP/MyVoipProvider-0046' fax session '12', [
 003.219814 ], stack sent 3 frames (60 ms) of silence.
     -- FAX handle 0: [ 005.240927 ], STAT_EVT_TX_V21_DONE   st: WT_DIS_RSP
 rt: WDSRNT21
     Channel 'SIP/MyVoipProvider-0046' fax session '12', [
 005.579811 ], stack sent 118 frames (2360 ms) of energy.
     Channel 'SIP/MyVoipProvider-0046' fax session '12', [
 006.481179 ], channel sent 275 frames (5500 ms) of silence.
     Channel 'SIP/MyVoipProvider-0046' fax session '12', [
 007.801045 ], channel sent 66 frames (1320 ms) of energy.
     -- FAX handle 0: [ 007.800554 ], STAT_FRM_CRP
     -- FAX handle 0: [ 007.800586 ], STAT_EVT_CRP   st: WT_DIS_RSP
 rt: NT4X
     -- FAX handle 0: [ 007.800602 ], STAT_EVT_FSC_ERR   st: WT_DIS_RSP
 rt: UNEXPECT
     -- FAX handle 0: [ 011.012832 ], STAT_EVT_RX_TRN_END    st: WT_DIS_RSP
 rt: RXXXNFRX
     -- FAX handle 0: [ 011.012878 ], STAT_INFO_CSI
     -- FAX handle 0: [ 011.012905 ], STAT_INFO_DIS
     Channel 'SIP/MyVoipProvider-0046' fax session '12', [
 011.152812 ], stack sent 279 frames (5580 ms) of silence.
     -- FAX handle 0: [ 013.179561 ], STAT_EVT_TX_V21_DONE   st: WT_DIS_RSP
 rt: WDSRNT21
     Channel 'SIP/MyVoipProvider-0046' fax session '12', [
 013.471827 ], stack sent 116 frames (2320 ms) of energy.
     Channel 'SIP/MyVoipProvider-0046' fax session '12', [
 014.260642 ], channel sent 323 frames (6460 ms) of silence.
     -- FAX handle 0: [ 016.119786 ], STAT_INFO_TSI
     Channel 'SIP/MyVoipProvider-0046' fax session '12', [
 016.460661 ], channel sent 110 frames (2200 ms) of energy.
     -- FAX handle 0: [ 016.460394 ], STAT_INFO_DCS
     -- FAX handle 0: [ 016.460431 ], STAT_EVT_DCS   st: WT_DIS_RSP
 rt: WDSRNDCS
     -- FAX handle 0: [ 016.460449 ], STAT_NEG_V17_14400
     -- FAX handle 0: [ 016.460464 ], STAT_NEG_MH
     -- FAX handle 0: [ 016.460476 ], STAT_NEG_A4
     -- FAX handle 0: [ 016.460488 ], STAT_NEG_RES_204x196
     -- FAX handle 0: [ 016.460500 ], STAT_NEG_ECM
     -- FAX handle 0: [ 016.460514 ], STAT_EVT_SW_ECM    st: WT_DIS_RSP
 rt: WDSRNSWE
     Channel 'SIP/MyVoipProvider-0046' fax session '12', [
 016.540315 ], channel sent 4 frames (80 ms) of silence.
     -- FAX handle 0: [ 016.800906 ], STAT_EVT_RX_IMG_STRT   st: RCV_ECM_TRN
 rt: UNEXPECT
     Channel 'SIP/MyVoipProvider-0046' fax session '12', [
 019.700543 ], channel sent 158 frames 

Re: [asterisk-users] Benchmarking AGI performance in C, PHP, and Perl

2011-07-11 Thread David Backeberg
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Steve Edwards
asterisk@sedwards.com wrote:
 Many times, I've made the statement that you can execute hundreds of AGIs
 written in C in the time it takes to load an interpreter and parse a script
 written in PHP or Perl.

I've truly enjoyed this thread. And while startup time is certainly
part of the equation, I'm curious whether you also recorded memory
overhead while you were doing your benchmarks.

In my personal observation of 'Perl running in production', there's a
significant memory complexity associated with running lots of
simultaneous Perl interpreters. I'm guessing the PHP overhead is
smaller but still a factor.

Because C lib is both statically compiled and essentially built into
the system, there's no such 'waste' of running the interpreters.

Along with the narrowing gap you saw by 'throwing hardware at the
problem' that shrinks the difference between C and interpreted
languages, I personally now work with a production asterisk
environment where systems have dozens of GB of ram. As such, it's not
entirely crazy to say 'so what' about the whole thing.

Nonetheless, do you have any numbers to back up my theory?

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Re: [asterisk-users] ReceiveFax to G.711

2011-06-27 Thread David Backeberg
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Michael voip.quest...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Kevin,

 Controlling it through the sip.conf peers is sufficient for us for this case
 (because this particular provider doesn't support T.38 at all), but I think
 it would be a good idea to add the option to enable/disable T.38 from the
 dialplan. If I recall correctly, that's how callweaver worked at the time.

 Also, we just checked it, and since for that provider, we have other codecs
 in higher priorities (like GSM, for example) than G.711, G.711 was not
 chosen as the only codec, so the fax transmission failed. We can not
 prioritize G.711 over the other codecs in the sip.conf, for the obvious
 reasons, so for this, we need to do it in the dialplan. How can we do it?

Obvious solution is to move this particular number off this particular
provider to a provider where you don't require prioritizing GSM and
where that provider properly supports T.38.

Outside of that idea, you would have to do some edge SIP routing
before the call hit asterisk, to deflect this particular call to an
asterisk configured differently. You could do that with OpenSIPS for
example. Doesn't that sound like a lot more work than just porting the
number to a different provider?

Or if you insist on keeping the provider, get a second account with
them for just this number, and you can apply different rules in
sip.conf for just that account.

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Re: [asterisk-users] receive faxes

2011-05-05 Thread David Backeberg
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:43 PM, vip killa vipki...@gmail.com wrote:
 The majority of open source projects out are NOT run by commercial
 institutions...

Postfix kicks butt. But only because IBM paid for development, for a
long number of years, and because they hired somebody who had a really
good idea how to improve Sendmail.

Asterisk kicks butt. It just does, even if you can't get your silly
faxing edge case to work, because Digium paid for development, for a
long number of years.

There are also people who come along, and because the source is
available, fix a particular bug that annoyed them, or added a feature
they personally wanted.

T.38 has a boatload of problems, and most of those problems are
because people who aren't employed by Digium did not read the specs,
or they did read the specs, but felt like they had to violate the
specs to get their code to work with a different broken T.38 stack.

I've personally fixed problems with asterisk, and I found my code
contribution accepted. Perhaps you've submitted patches the bug
tracker? We eagerly anticipate your voluntary code contributions.

Maybe statistically, there are more open source projects out there
that have non-paid lead developers, and they do their work on their
own dime, and on their own time.

But unless you're lucky enough to live in a place where you can hunt
and gather for everything you need, you need money to live in a
society, and have the resources to be able to sit at a keyboard long
enough to churn out code.

I could only afford to make my 'code contribution' because I have a
day job where I needed the fix.

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Re: [asterisk-users] receive faxes

2011-05-04 Thread David Backeberg
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 12:00 PM, A J Stiles
asterisk_l...@earthshod.co.uk wrote:
 (For my part, I'm actually surprised that nobody came up with a proper
 protocol for encapsulating the stream of zeros and ones that make up a fax
 transmission but rely on the precise timing inherent with a circuit-switched
 network, into something more suitable for sending over a packet-switched
 network.  That would have fixed it good and proper.)

They did. It's called TCP / IP.

It allows sending PDFs, and they can even be encrypted.

Faxing is for people who haven't heard of the internet.

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Re: [asterisk-users] The new ConfBridge application is now in Asterisk Trunk!

2011-04-25 Thread David Backeberg
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 10:40 AM, C. Savinovich
c.savinov...@itntelecom.com wrote:


 Does this ConfBridge requires a hardware timing source?

No, and neither does MeetMe with modern DAHDI.

  Will I be able to  use this on any virtual server without having the need 
 special changes to
 the VM setup?

Define 'any'? If you're idea of virtualization is to oversubscribe
servers and hurt performance, then no.

To mix audio, the code takes lots of audio slices and merges them with
an algorithm. But if the underlying cpu doesn't provide consistent,
reliable ticks, as potentially happens in virtualization, then good
luck with what's going to happen to your audio mixing.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Fax

2011-04-01 Thread David Backeberg
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 7:04 AM, Khaled W. Chehab kche...@xplorium.com wrote:
 1-Is there a way to export fax tiff file image from .pcap captured file .

Maybe, but I can't think of how. If you can somehow invert the pcap
file back into packets and reproduce the fax traffic, then maybe.

 In other words i am trying to backup all faxes that are passing on my 
 network,and export the fax file later on.
 Is this feasible and how .

I don't know why you wouldn't want the tiff immediately. Traditionally
people use fax because it's faster than putting a letter in the mail.
I don't know why anybody would want slower fax. All I can come up with
is you're trying to evade toll charges or otherwise change one
expensive call into two cheaper calls.

If that's what you want to do, it would be even cheaper to skip the
fax, and use the internet to exchange a pdf file between the actual
two endpoints.

As to whether it's possible? Maybe if instead of the pcap, you do
analog fax, record the call, and play back the recording. Maybe that
would work?

 2-I tried using asterisk to receive the fax  and resend it , but that will 
 not a real time  fax, and if I want to ignore the time ,in case of failed 
 fax I should inform the user that fax is been failed since the system 
 received the fax is the first place successfully .

If you put a fax machine in the way of another fax machine, it's not
going to be real-time. Any kind of arrangement involving two faxes
like that is going to be store-and-forward.

 Is there a way to don’t hangup the call when  the user send the fax first 
 time to system ?

Yes, but you cannot stop the sending party from hanging up their leg
of the call.

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Re: [asterisk-users] T.38 negotiation error

2011-02-03 Thread David Backeberg
2011/2/3 Marcello Colucci (SIRIO Informatica s.a.s.)
mcolu...@sirioinformatica.it:
 Hi, I have asterisk 1.6.2.6 on a Debian Lenny system.
 When I try to send a fax in T.38 mode I receive this error

 ERROR[15035]: res_fax.c:795 set_fax_t38_caps: channel
 'SIP/eutelia-sirio-out-' is in an unsupported T.38 negotiation
 state, cannot continue.

 In my sip.config general section I have added this lines
 t38pt_udptl=yes
 t38pt_rtp=no
 t38pt_tcp=no

 If I comment this lines, the fax is sended by G711 but this modality is too
 slow and instable.

It depends on who you're faxing with.

If you can control who you'll be T38-ing with, you might be able to
solve this particular problem.

But if you're T.38-ing with the whole world, in my opinion, there are
too many broken T.38 implementations for you to depend on this.

If you want reliable faxing, you should avoid voip altogether, and use a modem.

I've gotten pretty good faxing by using audio passthrough, over sip,
but it's only sip on a LAN, to a PRI gateway system. Trying to do voip
fax over internet is cheap, but it's not reliable.

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Re: [asterisk-users] ReceiveFAX issue.

2011-01-26 Thread David Backeberg
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Bryant Zimmerman brya...@zktech.com wrote:
 Ok If I set t38pt_udptl = no on the trunk the fax comes in t.30 but I can't
 make t.38 work I keep getting the following error Disconnected after
 permitted retries   Any ideas on this?

So you're saying if you turn off t38 in sip.conf, you receive faxes
successfully?

Problem solved. Don't use T.38 in your particular environment.

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Re: [asterisk-users] ReceiveFAX issue.

2011-01-25 Thread David Backeberg
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Bryant Zimmerman brya...@zktech.com wrote:
 On 01/24/2011 2:54PM  Bryant Zimmerman wrote
 The attached file was too large so I am putting in a link to the file. It is
 a virus free text file.

You failed to mention earlier that this is T.38.

Turn off T.38 and see if it's still broken.

T.38 is notorious for having broken implementations by multiple vendors.

And upgrading to latest asterisk may or may not improve the situation.

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Re: [asterisk-users] ReceiveFAX issue.

2011-01-25 Thread David Backeberg
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Bryant Zimmerman brya...@zktech.com wrote:
 Do you know how to force off T.38 in res_fax?

it's in sip.conf

take a look for

 t38pt_udptl=yes

change it to no

 reload sip

on your console

that should force it to either fail entirely or do audio passthrough.

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Re: [asterisk-users] ReceiveFAX issue.

2011-01-24 Thread David Backeberg
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Bryant Zimmerman brya...@zktech.com wrote:
 I am testing out inbound faxing using res_fax and res_fax_spandsp.so

 My system answers the call but then sets there on the ReseiveFax line then
 comes back with an error that it exceeded the maximum retries.
 How would I go about debugging this? Below is my very simple dialplan code I
 am using, and the fax show version gives the following as well.

Record the call with Monitor() or MixMonitor().

Listen to the call.

See if you can figure out anything obvious.

Why are you doing a Wait(2)?

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Re: [asterisk-users] U-verse DTMF tuning for Zaptel

2011-01-24 Thread David Backeberg
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Steve Edwards
asterisk@sedwards.com wrote:
 We know the problem exists -- the boss just installed U-verse at his house
 :)
 It works fine from cell and copper, just not from U-verse and their ilk.

Well, I would say more data samples are needed then. It could
certainly be the boss's uverse connection and not other uverse
connections.

If every SIP connection failed wouldn't you know it by now?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk to asterisk t.38

2011-01-20 Thread David Backeberg
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Amit Nepal ami...@phoenixinternet.net wrote:
 I have a setup of asterisk 1.6 in one box and asteirsk 1.4 in another. I can
 send recieve faxes from both boxes fine to and from pstn. But the faxing
 between 1.6 and 1.4 extensions does fail. Any ideas please ?

You don't say what's between the boxes as the medium over which the
faxes are going.

Try a fax between them without t.38 and see if it goes through. It
might be a connection that is not reliable for any kind of faxing.

That would not be an asterisk problem, it would be a faxing over a bad
connection problem.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Weird phone behavior after recent CentOS 5 update

2011-01-06 Thread David Backeberg
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Myles Wakeham my...@techsol.org wrote:
 For some reason our Asterisk box is doing something really unusual following 
 applying a routine update to CentOS 5 on Monday.

 We have Asterisk 1.4.2 and its been working great for years.  But now when 
 the phone system receives an incoming SIP call, its not providing any audible 
 dial sound to any caller.  It is recognizing the incoming call, and after no 
 answer for about 5 rings or so, it goes to voice mail.  But there is no 
 audible 'ring' to the caller.  Just nothing - blank, empty silence.

 Of course any automated answering system (ie. business phone menu, etc.) that 
 we have works just fine.  Its just the lines that go directly to an internal 
 phone that are no longer providing any audible ring which is sending a 
 message to the caller that their call didn't go through.

 Does anyone have any idea what might cause this?

Definitely check your firewall settings.

Definitely consider rebuilding against the libs as they now exist on
your machine. CentOS (which are really RedHat) library changes aren't
always fully disclosing the things that actually change.

The worst example in recent memory was when a CentOS update changed
the defaults to sudo, and you had to go manually override to allow
sudo to work without a tty.

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Re: [asterisk-users] cdr_mysql stopped working

2010-12-23 Thread David Backeberg
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Bryant Zimmerman brya...@zktech.com wrote:
 I did an upgrade to the SVN trunk on the 12/9 and when I looked in my mysql
 table for CDR's today there are no entries since the update.
 I have rebuilt and re-installed and re-started asterisk still no CDR's
 flowing to mysql. I did not change any configs. I checked to make sure that
 the cdr_mysql option was selected under the make menu options. The module
 shows it is there when I do a modules show. I don't get any errors saying it
 can't write to the table.  My voicemail settings are pulling from the same
 server.

 Any ideas on what I could try to fix this or how I could test to see what is
 causing it?

Rebooting is a good clue. You could check your firewall settings.
Firewalls can stop mysql connections.

Try manually connecting to the mysql server from the asterisk system
and see what happens.

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Re: [asterisk-users] [POTS/BRI] Neutral comparisons of PCI vs. box?

2010-12-08 Thread David Backeberg
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Gilles codecompl...@free.fr wrote:
 Hello

        I need to find a recent and neutral comparison of the major products
 available to connect an Asterisk server to the telephone network,
 whether ISDN (BRI) or PSTN, and through a PCI card or some external
 box. I'm told there are less issues (echo, stability) with external
 boxes compared to PCI cards.

 Apparently, the main brands are Digium, Sangoma, Rhino Equipment,
 Patton, and Audiocodes.

I would disagree that there are fewer issues.

I would phrase it as:

* pay somebody else to do it in the form of appliance and lose most
control versus do it yourself and have total control but also the
chance to screw up.

These are the choices you face in much of tech, such as develop
software yourself that does exactly what you want versus buy somebody
else's software that does some of what you want.

If you want to pay somebody else to do it, there's also the middle
road of pay somebody who knows how to do PCI cards to do it for you.
We call those people consultants or vendors. You can try hiring the
vendors directly or ask them for recommendations for vendors trusted
to do a good job.

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Re: [asterisk-users] [POTS/BRI] Neutral comparisons of PCI vs. box?

2010-12-08 Thread David Backeberg
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Gilles codecompl...@free.fr wrote:
 On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 09:33:22 -0500, David Backeberg
 dbackeb...@gmail.com wrote:
* pay somebody else to do it in the form of appliance and lose most
control versus do it yourself and have total control but also the
chance to screw up.

 Thanks for the input. Has someone in this ng tried a PCI card and then
 an appliance of the same grade, and could provide some feedback?

I've done both. It's hard to determine what 'same grade' means. I
guess you could go by price?

I've used Digium PCI cards. They worked well.

I've used Cisco gear for terminating PRI lines. It also worked well.

Both the cards and the appliances have had 'issues'.

The Digium PCI cards themselves were solid, but there are lots of ways
to do the configuration wrong. You have to match the line settings to
the line provided by the phone company, but sometimes you figure those
out by trial and error. That's essentially no different for the
appliances.

With asterisk there are certain bugs I've run into, but unlike with
Cisco, I've been able to find the actual problem, change the code, and
run the version I want, which also has the patch I want.

I've gotten into an upgrade / downgrade trap with Cisco where I wanted
to fix a PRI error so I upgraded. Then the upgrade generated broken
callerID. I couldn't downgrade if I wanted the PRI fix, and I wanted
the PRI fix more than I wanted callerID. Alas, Cisco.

All known, documented issues, escalated through Cisco paid support.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Log viewer

2010-11-30 Thread David Backeberg
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:25 AM, voip crazy voipcr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I want to analyze the asterisk logs files, looking for all kind of
 errors, ¿Anyboby knows any asterisk logs analyzer?

You're only going to have the logs for what you create logs for.

I create custom logs for the custom things I need answers on, like IVR
button presses, user actions, authentication, etc.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk with MySQL Cluster

2010-11-30 Thread David Backeberg
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Duane Larson duane.lar...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have MySQL Cluster set up for OpenSIPS which allows for the best Redundant
 High-Availability.  I was wondering if it's possible for Asterisk to also
 use multiple database servers for Realtime?  Currently with Realtime I am
 only able to point to a single IP address for a database.  If that database
 server goes down that Asterisk is pointed to then Asterisk won't be able to
 do anything.  Any options within Asterisk 1.8 to make it more fault tolerant
 when it comes to Realtime and databases?

http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/ha-overview.html

It's a fair amount of work for what in my opinion is a minimal reward.
If you've hardened everything else and this is the only single point
of failure left in your entire infrastructure, you should be able to
sleep well at night.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Stability..

2010-11-29 Thread David Backeberg
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 5:26 PM, dotnetdub dotnet...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry,
 what I meant was:
 server*CLI remove extension (hit tab)
 segfault..
 1.4.22
 It could be an extension name Where is the error trapping if this is the
 case.. Who writes this shit?

If you remove an extension that is being used, control could flow into
the now non-loaded extension, and THAT is what caused your core dump.

Don't do that.

If you want to NEVER load extensions and also not crash asterisk,
you're better off taking a look at modules.conf, particular making
entries that begin with
noload =

You can also take a look at 1.6 and make menuconfig, and just not
build modules that you don't want. Then they'll really never load at
startup.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Call recording format

2010-11-22 Thread David Backeberg
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Vilius Adamkavicius
vilius.adamkavic...@invade.net wrote:
 Hi All,
 We have a requirement to record over 60 simultaneous calls. Our recording
 facilities are implemented using Monitor() over AMI. The thing we have
 noticed that making 60 simultaneous call recordings using wav CPU load is
 significantly higher (around 2 times more) than using gsm. Even writing call
 recordings to /dev/null makes a big difference in CPU load.

Ignoring your real questions, and asking an alternate question:

Why not just record in gsm?

If your answer is that you have to play these back on Windows, you can
build an on-the-fly gsm-to-wav converter using sox.

My understanding is that recording in wav doesn't exactly make you
have higher audio quality in your recordings, although the experts at
codecs could better answer that.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Volume on meetme recording

2010-11-15 Thread David Backeberg
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Richard Kenner ken...@gnat.com wrote:
 It's kind of low for me.  How does one control that volume?

I've never heard of a way to control that volume.

You can tweak after-the-fact with sox, or you can crank up your
soundcard / amplification on playback.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Big practical systems

2010-11-07 Thread David Backeberg
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Cary Fitch ca...@usawide.net wrote:
 But can anyone contribute some practical knowledge of systems that take in
 channel bank T1s or DS3s from far away, and process the calls?

Yes. Adtran makes excellent gear. The MX 2800 is good for breaking a
channelized DS3 into PRIs.

 Not to start the discussion, but Is there a board that will take a DS3 (672
 channels) and a system that will handle the calls, or is that a silly
 question?

If by board, you mean PCI board for shoving in something with an intel
cpu, not that I've ever heard. Digium sells 4x port PRI boards, and
some competitor sells an 8x port PRI board, but I've never tried any
boards not made by Digium.

The only thing silly is the idea of trusting that many calls to PC hardware.

 Is there an IP box that would take the DS3 and then a system that would
 handle the calls?

Yes, embedded hardware from a vendor you've heard of will do that.
Cisco makes a 3845 which can terminate about 20 PRIs in one appliance.

 My guess would be yes because the actual call load would
 be far lower than 672 calls.  Maybe 100-150 or so simultaneous.

Well, then it's not really a DS3. If it can't do the whole thing
without melting down, it shouldn't advertise itself as DS3. The Adtran
gear works rock solid when pushed to the limit.

If you're just talking 150 calls, you could do that with two 4x port
cards in a single PC. I thought you were talking a lot bigger.

 Each line/call would have to have absolute caller ID.  In other words, PSTN
 call handling.

Ummm, there's no such thing as absolute caller ID. You wanna try that
question again? callerID is not legally binding, is not used by
billing, anybody can spoof it.

The closest you can get is to have a LEC provide ANI. You don't need
PRI to get that. You can get that via a quality voip provider, or
yourself using your own termination gear to convert into voip.

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Re: [asterisk-users] FFA SendFax rejects T.38 reINVITE (488 Not acceptable here)

2010-10-20 Thread David Backeberg
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:35 AM, VoIP Question voip.quest...@gmail.com wrote:
 Another question: Is there (expect for the admin guide that we didn't
 succeed to understand the example in) an example somewhere for ReceiveFax
 full extensions.conf diaplan? We would like to allocate one of the
 extensions that our SIP provider gives us to a fax storage server or later
 to email.

Not that I've ever seen. I built mine by reading mailing list
archives, then the source for app_fax.

+1 for open source.

At least one reason such a thing does not exist is that everybody has
a different idea of what 'full extensions.conf dialplan' means.

In my case, I ReceiveFax, record the call, give it a naming convention
that works, convert tiff to pdf, tail a log to a flat txt file, copy
the pdf to Winders. That's not going to be the same thing as what a
lot of other people want to do.

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Re: [asterisk-users] FFA SendFax rejects T.38 reINVITE (488 Not acceptable here)

2010-10-19 Thread David Backeberg
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:36 AM, VoIP Question voip.quest...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hello,

 I'm trying to send a tif file, using Fax for Asterisk and the call is
 executed, but when I get the reINVITE with T.38 data, the local server
 doesn't recognize that we have this capability and sends a 488 message.

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+sip+canreinvite

take a look at your canreinvite option.

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Re: [asterisk-users] FFA SendFax rejects T.38 reINVITE (488 Not acceptable here)

2010-10-19 Thread David Backeberg
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:21 AM, VoIP Question voip.quest...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's set to yes for this peer.

 also t38pt_udptl is set to yes.

 :(

You don't say anything about what you're trying to send / receive against.

Here's how you should troubleshoot:

* start with a 'real fax machine' if you have one, on an analog line
if you have one. If you can't receive / send with that against your
target, blame your target.
* move to audio-pass through fax on asterisk. No T.38. If that works.
* add in T.38

You will learn things in that process and be able to tell at what
layer your troubles are happening.

It could be coincidental that things give up during the reinvite. It
could actually be giving up for noise on the line, packet drops, etc.

At the very least, start recording the call. You'll at least be able
to hear up to the re-invite.

Definitely record the audio passthrough attempt and listen back to it.

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Re: [asterisk-users] integrate Intertel Axxess with Asterisk

2010-10-19 Thread David Backeberg
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:23 AM, marvin horst fivehor...@gmail.com wrote:
 How did the setup work as far as extensions on the Inter-Tel system
 contacting extensions on the asterisk system?

It worked, I dare say, flawlessly. Well, as flawlessly as Inter-Tel
worked. Still had to watch out for line error counters, and still had
to reboot it daily (Windows + Inter-Tel equals unstable).

When sending calls into Inter-Tel, the other side, probably asterisk,
masquerades as telco sending in call as PRI.

In the other direction, you configure the lines as OPX, or off-premise
extensions. Just make the extensions match for each line on the PRI
and set your dialplan so you keep things making sense.

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Re: [asterisk-users] FFA SendFax rejects T.38 reINVITE (488 Not acceptable here)

2010-10-19 Thread David Backeberg
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:48 AM, VoIP Question voip.quest...@gmail.com wrote:
 The whole point (as I specified in the header and initial message) is the
 attempt to use Fax for Asterisk to send the message.

Asterisk can handle audio passthrough faxing. I'm talking audio faxing
over SIP. You compile against this thing called SpanDSP, and then
asterisk squawks audio tones over the line. It's amazing.

Until you've tried it, you don't know whether it could work.

I'm under the assumption that you'd rather have faxing at all than
faxing over T.38.

The world is littered with broken T.38 implementations. Just because
it's a standard, doesn't mean people follow it. Ever heard of HTML?
Which browsers follow it to the letter? You seem to have never
successfully exchanged a fax with your target, so I don't know why you
think the far end isn't broken.

Try turning off t38 and see what happens.

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Re: [asterisk-users] FFA SendFax rejects T.38 reINVITE (488 Not acceptable here)

2010-10-19 Thread David Backeberg
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 1:01 PM, VoIP Question voip.quest...@gmail.com wrote:
 Digium claims that their FFA is the best and most compatible solution and
 they give one channel for free, but do not provide support for those that do
 not buy more channels, but why buy more channels if the free/test one
 doesn't work?

I don't know. I'm not using FFA, and I'm doing more channels
simultaneously than I want to disclose.

It's called app_fax, and it's been built into the 1.6 series for quite
some time now.

You seem pretty hell bent against spending any money. Not for FFA, not
for commercial digium support, not for an analog copper line, not for
an ATA.

So try app_fax. It's free.

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Re: [asterisk-users] user number in conference

2010-10-12 Thread David Backeberg
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Daniel Knoll dan...@danielknoll.de wrote:
 Hey,
 i forgot to ask, how can i get the user number from a caller he is in a 
 conference, i don't find a variable to us this for the current channel.
 Only the command meetme list roomnr shows the usernumber, but i can't use 
 this output.

why not?

asterisk -rx 'meetme list '

Depending on your version, 1.6 has the concise argument, which
transforms the output into convenient exclamation-point-separated
output.

Then you can send it off to awk -F'!' and pick off the first value.

asterisk -rx 'meetme list  concise' | awk -F '!' '{print $1}'

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Re: [asterisk-users] integrate Intertel Axxess with Asterisk

2010-10-07 Thread David Backeberg
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 5:00 PM, marvin horst fivehor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Has anyone successfully integrated Asterisk with an Inter-tel Axxess phone
 system via a SIP trunk using the IPRC card?

I have, believe it or not, integrated Asterisk with Inter-Tel.

However, not via SIP. Run the costs.

When I did, it was way cheaper to integrate asterisk with Inter-Tel
via PRI card than via SIP, especially when you figured price per
channel. I had a bunch of PRI cards on Inter-Tel talking to asterisk.
That was revision one.

Revision two, as we got bigger, I went to Cisco gear, like the 3845,
and plugged the PRIs from Inter-Tel into the Cisco gear, and used the
Cisco gear for the SIP conversion. This let asterisk talk straight SIP
and not worry about talking directly to the Inter-Tel.

We grew the Inter-Tel to as big as we could get it, offloaded as much
as we could, and eventually we couldn't fit our call center into it
anymore. Now we're Cisco for the call center.

I don't know whether what I used was called Inter-Tel Axxess. I always
just called it Inter-Tel.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Unable to load fax modules

2010-09-30 Thread David Backeberg
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:51 AM, khalid touati khalidtou...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi List,
 I did follow the procedure to install Free Fax for Asterisk successfully
 till i came accross this isssue: i can't load the fax module:

 pbx3*CLI module load res_fax_digium.so
 Unable to load module res_fax_digium.so
 Command 'module load res_fax_digium.so' failed.
 [Sep 30 10:50:12] WARNING[5427]: loader.c:429 load_dynamic_module: Error
 loading module 'res_fax_digium.so':
 /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/res_fax_digium.so: undefined symbol: manager_event
 [Sep 30 10:50:12] WARNING[5427]: loader.c:797 load_resource: Module
 'res_fax_digium.so' could not be loaded.

 any help will be much appreciated!!

Don't know for certain, but my guess is you didn't build in AMI or
manager support with your asterisk build. Rebuild with manager support
and you should be able to find the undefined symbol. And if you're
building from scratch, I don't know the reason why you wouldn't use
the built-in app_fax.so

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Re: [asterisk-users] Unable to load fax modules

2010-09-30 Thread David Backeberg
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:46 AM, khalid touati khalidtou...@gmail.com wrote:
 thanks for replies,
 I am using Asterisk 1.6.2.11
 and components res_fax-1.4_1.2.1-x86_64 and
 res_fax_digium-1.4_1.2.1-barcelona_64.
 (amd 64 bit machine)
 actually I am not aware that there is version which include fax.
 for rebuilding with manager support that would be great if you could give me
 a link to know about that, cause i've never done it !

If you're building from source, do a make menuconfig

then you get the ability to do select/deselct on the individual applications.

One is called app_fax
That contains the built-in fax support.

It requires that you have already pre-built SpanDSP.

And also, it looks like you cannot NOT compile in manager support, so
my original idea seems wrong.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Record() Cmd and My SQL

2010-09-24 Thread David Backeberg
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Govind, Mahesh (NSN - IN/Bangalore)
mahesh.gov...@nsn.com wrote:
 The reason is when doing a load balancing  , We  cannot confine the
 recording to a particular asterisk machine ( If we have more than one
 asterisk machine in the topology ).

Yes you can. You can record the file wherever the call takes place. In
fact, you can make the recording on any network segment the packet
traverses as well.

 So a centralized mechanism might be better . So that any machine can
 access the recording .
 Regards
 Mahesh

Recordings are formatted data, typically stored as files. You can put
them into a database, but you haven't provided a reason why that would
be a good idea.

There are these things called shared filesystems. You should take a
look at them. They work well. Options include NFS, iscsi, sans, etc.

Or you can record the file in-place, and when the recording completes,
copy it off to your shared filesystem. That's what I do.

Or you can take a look at something like OrecX, which let's you do
network spanning on your entire subnet, and it doesn't matter where
your call takes place because all RTP streams get written to disk.

None of what you've explained would be a good reason to put your
recordings into a database. Don't do that.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Record() Cmd and My SQL

2010-09-24 Thread David Backeberg
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Don Kelly d...@donkelly.biz wrote:
 Don sez: I don't know how to make Outlook indent. I usually top-post, but I
 don't like getting yelled at.

 Why do you say Don't do that? Is there a real reason that it would be bad?

Performance is a real reason. Multiple simultaneous write streams into
a database sounds like a disaster. While trying to read from the db
and use it to listen to recordings sounds like a bigger disaster.

/path/to/the/recording

is a short varchar string

the actual recording is a massive, usually multi-megabyte, potentially
multi-gigabyte blob.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blob_(computing)

If you're not actually taking advantage of the recording being in the
database, doing computing that is easier because of the database, such
as nearest neighbor searches, indexing, and the like, you're just
slowing down your ability to store and retrieve recordings.

 I'd like to put the recordings in a database so they are available to
 another application that has no other relationship to the Asterisk server.

Sounds like a filesystem. I can store my pdf file with my web browser,
and read it on another computer after I store it to my shared
filesystem.

 The application uses the database to determine if the recording has been
 listened to, by whom and if it needs additional attention.

Database can maintain metadata (as can a filesystem, owner, creation
date, access date), but you could still just store a pointer to the
actual file in the db. If you were paranoid about the filesystem and
db getting out of step you could do referential integrity checks in
the application.

If you want to do something wholesale to all the recordings, like
carve off the first five seconds, it's quite straightforward with a
batched sox call against the filesystem. If you want to do that in a
db, it's a select, write output to a file, convert the file, and
replace on the value to store it back into the db.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Record() Cmd and My SQL

2010-09-23 Thread David Backeberg
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:21 AM, Govind, Mahesh (NSN - IN/Bangalore)
mahesh.gov...@nsn.com wrote:
 HI ,

 Is there Any way is there so that I can store my recordings directly to a
 database rather storing the same to a file .

Please, please, please tell us why you would want to do that.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk T38

2010-09-22 Thread David Backeberg
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Adam Moffett a...@plexicomm.net wrote:
 In the simplest terms I can think of, I'm going to describe what I want to
 do and I want to know if it's possible in the current version of asterisk.

 Can I take a T38 call from an ATA, convert that back to analog and have
 asterisk screech that out on a POTS line to a remote fax machine.  Would it
 work?

 And could I receive an incoming fax the same way?

I suppose that merely removing ATA and asterisk from the middle, and
plugging a pots line into a fax machine is out of the question.

Sounds like you want a T.38 gateway.

Not built into asterisk, but some people have tried patching. Search
the archives for T.38 gateway.

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Re: [asterisk-users] How different is implementing Cisco based system than Asterisk based system?

2010-09-14 Thread David Backeberg
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Zeeshan Zakaria zisha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Now I have no previous experience with Cisco systems and don't want to screw
 up anything. Are they much different than Asterisk based systems? I guess
 the underlying VoIP technology is the same for both the systems so it
 shouldn't be hard to set it up on Cisco. Any ideas, suggestions. I'd
 appreciate your help as what to look for, where to start from. My experience
 with Cisco is limited to their networking equipment, IOS, their 7960 series
 phones and making them work with asterisk, and also using Cisco press's
 wonderful book 'Taking charge of Your VoIP Project'.

You don't mention anything about size or nature of the installation.
If these people want Cisco support, they'll have to buy this gear from
an official Cisco reseller, and that's when you'll get a ballpark
price for initial deployment, ongoing support, etc.

When you compare that to Asterisk, perhaps you'll have a convert. Or
maybe not. Decision makers have their reasons and clearly if price was
the only reason, Cisco / Avaya / etc. wouldn't still be selling phone
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Re: [asterisk-users] How different is implementing Cisco based system than Asterisk based system?

2010-09-14 Thread David Backeberg
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Zeeshan Zakaria zisha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Now I have no previous experience with Cisco systems and don't want to screw
 up anything. Are they much different than Asterisk based systems?

sometimes. Cisco supports SIP, but depending on the product,
asterisk inter-networking with call transfers / dials / etc. can be,
ummm, interesting, and you have to do Transfer() rather than Dial() if
you want subsequent transfers / conferencing, etc. to work within
Cisco. Basically, call setup / control and RTP aren't necessarily on
the same device(s) which is the opposite of my asterisk experience.

 I guess the underlying VoIP technology is the same for both the systems so it
 shouldn't be hard to set it up on Cisco.

sometimes. Again, the size of the deployment is relevant here.

 Any ideas, suggestions. I'd appreciate your help as what to look for, where 
 to start from.

Again, at some point you'll need to call a reseller. In the meantime,
if you want to keep them honest, you should get your hands on paper or
digital copies of the Cisco press books about their phone system
products. Can't recommend anything specific without knowing things
about size and purpose of the install.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.6 and fax

2010-09-13 Thread David Backeberg
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Stanislav Korsei kor...@rinogo.com wrote:
 Hello!
 I've created clean installation of Asterisk 1.6.2.11 with spandsp 0.0.5.
 When i try to receive fax I get:
 [Sep 13 00:45:59] WARNING[3283]: app_fax.c:432 transmit_audio: channel
 'SIP/crocus-ua-0004' refused to negotiate T.38
 [Sep 13 00:46:02] WARNING[3283]: app_fax.c:223 phase_e_handler: Error
 transmitting fax. result=49: The call dropped prematurely.
 [Sep 13 00:46:02] WARNING[3283]: app_fax.c:817 transmit: Transmission error

 I definitely know that this peer supports T.38 because it works on Lynksys
 PAP2T.

There are lots of devices that 'support' T.38, but the problem is that
they 'support' it differently. If you want to have fun, read the
release notes for a Cisco voice IOS, and grep for the word T.38 to see
the long list of known broken situations.

Just because it's 'supported', doesn't mean it works. Internet
Explorer 'supports' html, but good luck getting it to act like a
standards-compliant web browser.

Try turning off the T.38 and do analog passthrough, or try using two
T.38 PAP2Ts. Or even better, don't use fax if you can avoid it.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.6 and fax

2010-09-08 Thread David Backeberg
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Stanislav Korsei kor...@rinogo.com wrote:
 Can you recommend any specific solution to this problem or way to install
 app_fax?

Not without specific debugging about what problems you're seeing. You
get a lot of information when faxes succeed or fail. Try a fax and
paste in the debug.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Faxes

2010-09-03 Thread David Backeberg
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:50 AM, dave george dgeo...@teletoneinc.com wrote:
 The asterisk box is connected to the PSTN using TE410 cards.  Asterisk talk
 SS7 to the PSTN.  On the IP side I use SIP.  I terminate calls onto the
 PSTN.

You don't say the percentage that are failing. However, people who
have worked with SIP on asterisk have been known to do:

exten = s,1,Playback(silence/1)
exten = s,n,Whatever(is_next)

And I don't know why, but this seems to make things better.

If you're doing an Answer and then a receive_Fax, try putting a
playback silence in between and see if that helps anything.

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Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk + cisco 3825 with ISDN

2010-08-24 Thread David Backeberg
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Ron nha...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi all,

 i recently subscribe for an isdn and terminate it on a 3825 router.

 i used it as a sip trunk for my asterisk. i'm a newbie when it comes to
 ISDN. and i've been experiencing some issues:

 1. Call Hangup:

 When hangup is initiated from the outside the extension (softphone/ip
 phone) does not hangup, is this normal? shouldn't asterisk hangup the
 extension as well when it receives the hangup properly from ISDN? or
 maybe it's because asterisk does not detect the proper hangup?

I don't understand your inside versus outside description. But the main point:
* you have ISDN on a 3825, and you have voip.
* somewhere the SIP hangup doesn't initiate an ISDN hangup.

This may be (is probably) due to you having your ISDN settings
incorrect for the line setup. There are about a dozen combinations of
settings for the way your ISDN line could be setup.

Is this a T1 PRI?
Are you taking timing from the telco?
Do you have your D-channel set correctly?
Do you have your DSP settings correct for your chosen voip codec?

You need an IOS manual to make sure all that is set correctly. You
can't download one from Cisco unless you pay for support and get a
service contract. Once you get that right, you'll also see the
settings in the Cisco manual for pushing caller ID correctly. I think
all of your problems are on the Cisco side, and zero are on the
asterisk side.

Or you could scrap the 3825 and get a Digium PRI card and use DAHDI.
Then it would be an asterisk question :)

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Re: [asterisk-users] Opensource Speech recognition for Asterisk

2010-08-22 Thread David Backeberg
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Duncan Turnbull dun...@e-simple.co.nz wrote:
 Voice recognition is a pain for people with accents and poor lines and when

Everybody has an accent. Some people live in a place where the people
they talk to sound like themselves, so they forget that fact.

Of course, this is a huge problem if you, for example, want to have an
English language voice recognition system that works across the
continental United States. Even for people who speak 'correct' or
'common' English for their region, these systems aren't that great in
my experience. The bigger of a vocabulary you have, the worse trouble
you'll have, because these systems, again, in my experience, only know
synonyms or alternate regional words for the same thing if they were
programmed by somebody who thought of the synonyms / alternate words /
alternate legitimate pronunciations.

Anybody with an imagination can think of plenty examples, for example,
from the United States:
* soda / pop / soft drink / beverage / drink / Coke / other trademarked names

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Re: [asterisk-users] Polycom 331 freezes connecting to FreePBX

2010-08-16 Thread David Backeberg
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Ben Schorr b...@rolandschorr.com wrote:
 We gave the phone a static IP address and pointed it to the configuration
 server on the remote end that has the CFG files for it.  The phone starts
 up, downloads SIP and the “new application” and otherwise seems to be
 booting normally.  Then it gets to the “LAN Properties” screen that shows
 the phone’s IP address, MAC address and firmware version and then…nothing.
 It just sits there frozen.

I have a suggestion...

Put back the 'old application', and determine whether the 'new
application' broke your phone boot. Since you don't mention changing
anything else, survey says it's probably the last thing you changed
that broke things.

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Re: [asterisk-users] 4 Port FXO interface

2010-08-13 Thread David Backeberg
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Eric Merkel (Mail Lists)
ejmerkel.li...@gmail.com wrote:


 I am looking to build a small PBX for an office that has 3 incoming analog
 lines and less than 10 extensions.

For that small of an installation you might prefer an asterisk
appliance. You can review the archives, or ask for recommendations.
Some people like Switchvox, and there are several other 'asterisk in
an appliance' options out there.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on AMD

2010-08-13 Thread David Backeberg
2010/8/13 Lyle McKarns lyle.mcka...@nexusmgmt.com:
 Does anyone have any feelings one way or the other about running Asterisk on
 AMD vs running Asterisk on Intel?

Only political feelings. I want to support AMD so there's at least
some token competition for Intel.

Both companies make nice 6-core processors with a lot of cache.

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Re: [asterisk-users] How to set up Asterisk to deliver a trunk sip connection?

2010-08-11 Thread David Backeberg
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Kent Varmedal k...@domeneshop.no wrote:
 I'm trying to set up an old PBX (that supports SIP) to go through our
 new Asterisk server, so that our old phones can be used still for some
 time.

 How can I set up Asterisk to deliver a trunk sip connection that our old
 PBX can connect to? Is it just to sett up a normal sip device in
 sip.conf? Or is there some other / extra magic for this to work?

Pretty much. The details vary on codec / DTMF, etc. based on what
you're talking to, but that's the general idea.

 I can't test this with the old system before we go live with Asterisk
 (and then it must work).

Really? Why not? If it speaks SIP, it should be able to do multiple
SIP trunks / channels, and you should be able to set up a simultaneous
SIP trunk alongside your production line(s).

If you tell us the PBX, somebody here has probably worked with it.

If the old PBX speaks true SIP, you could ditch the old PBX, and have
the SIP phones register directly with asterisk.

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Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk on Vmware

2010-08-11 Thread David Backeberg
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 4:36 AM, Tino t...@sparksupport.com wrote:
 Is it possible to install Asterisk on Vmware(centos) from source. Is there
 any difference or disadvantage for this compared to asterisk running on
 physical machine.

This has come up repeatedly on the list.

Basically, the less you use it, the less likely you are to run into problems.

Some people have reported voice quality issues, due to unreliable
timing sources. Other people report they haven't seen those problems.

If voice quality issues are a deal breaker for you, don't do this.

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Re: [asterisk-users] How to set up Asterisk to deliver a trunk sip connection?

2010-08-11 Thread David Backeberg
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Kent Varmedal k...@domeneshop.no wrote:
 We need to upgrade this PBX for it to work with SIP, it is at the moment
 using ISDN. And those who delivered it and do the
 support/reconfiguration is paid by the hour. We don't have any control
 over it our self, so when it is changed it will stay that way.

If you have a spare ISDN card, you may prefer to integrate it over
T1/E1/PRI rather than over SIP.

The bigger barrier is you not having control of the system.

It's made a lot tougher by not having a way to experiment except to be
dead-in-the-water.

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Re: [asterisk-users] MeetMe VS. Conference

2010-08-09 Thread David Backeberg
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 4:36 AM, Zhang Shukun bit...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi, group
     there are two module can used for meeting. MeetMe and
 Conference(which is a plugin)

 My question is :

 which is better for large conference(maybe above 100 people in a meeting)?

There's at least one more choice, which is ConfBridge(), assuming
you're running 1.6.2.*

I personally haven't used anything except MeetMe, and I have no
experience with that large of a conference.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and RAID

2010-08-04 Thread David Backeberg
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Alejandro Cabrera Obed
aco1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all, I'll install Asterisk 1.4 in an IBM xSeries 226 server with
 four HD's available, using CentOS as the OS.

 What's the best RAID type recommendation ??? RAID 1 or RAID 5 ???

Not really an asterisk question. Asterisk will run well regardless of
what you choose.

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Re: [asterisk-users] SEPMAC.xml for Ciscp 7970 IP Phone

2010-07-30 Thread David Backeberg
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 4:15 AM, zeynep yildirim zyildi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 I upgraded 7970 from SCCP to SIP. But the phone isn't registering.
 Have you got any working XML file for 7970 phones.

Isn't registering with what?

If you're registering that with CallManager, you have to change the
phone config after your firmware change.

If you're registering with asterisk, you have to tell the phone where
to try registering.

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Re: [asterisk-users] How can conect Cisco Unified Communications Manager with Asterisk

2010-07-29 Thread David Backeberg
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Nguyen Quang Tri kihote...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 i have Cisco Unified Communications Manager with 10 ip phone,i dont buy
 license IVR of Cisco Unified Communications Manager. Can i use feature IVR
 on Asterisk connect with Cisco Unified Communications Manager.

Yes, and no.

It depends on exactly how you plan to do this. You don't mention the
version of your Cisco Call Manager, and you don't mention how you plan
to integrate your IP phones. I'll assume Call Manager 7.x, and Cisco
IP phones that support a SIP firmware.

Your best way to do this:

* have your Cisco IP phones running a SIP load
* use SIP integration with asterisk
* depending on how you want to bounce calls between Cisco and
Asterisk, sometimes you should do a Transfer() rather than a Dial() to
get a call from Asterisk to Cisco. It's somewhat confusing, and I have
good ideas on why this is. Just trust me for now.
* don't expect miracles with regards to integration of fine detailed
information between Cisco and asterisk, with regard to information
picked off from the IVR

If your real goal is to have the same level of IVR detail from
asterisk you would get from an IVR built natively within Cisco, well,
sorry but that's either not possible, or a more difficult integration
job than I'm familiar with.

Cisco does support something called GED-125, which theoretically is an
API for sending Cisco details picked off in an IVR. I'm going to play
with it later in 2010. If somebody else is familiar with trying to do
that thing, please speak up.

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[asterisk-users] ignorant question about Digium cards and MeetMe

2010-07-29 Thread David Backeberg
So historically I've done one of two things on systems where I've
needed to use MeetMe

* used a real Digium card, and I've only ever used a TE400 or a TE420
for that purpose, and I know they have the timing chip
* used dahdi_dummy, which works well with light load, but I had it
running on a very overloaded server and had audio quality issues. I
may have had quality issues even with a real Digium card, but it was
impossible to isolate the problem on an overloaded server

So here's my actual question...

When I go through the Digium phone cards on the website,

* TE420 mentions 'synchronization' between channels
* TE220 mentions 'synchronization' between channels
* TE121P does not mention 'synchronization'

Does this mean that TE220 is the 'minimum' Digium phone card that
still provides the timing / synchronization circuitry that MeetMe uses
for mixing?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Clustering concept

2010-07-29 Thread David Backeberg
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 5:04 PM,  unsero...@aol.com wrote:
 Do you know if it is possible to interconnect 1.6 with Microsoft Office
 Communications Server 2007 and use the Office
 Communicator as a softclient for telephone calls and the Communicator for
 Instant Messaging? I believe you can set up a mediation

 server within MOC but i don't know if this works in real life. Maybe someone
 here has this setup running? What I also wonder

 is if the state in Communicator client would change to in a call if a call
 is made from Communicator via Asterisk. AFAIK MOC itself cannot

 directly communicate with a PSTN so Asterisk could be a perfect
 supplemental.

No, not until Microsoft builds a compatible soft phone. Microsoft
built software that only speaks SIP over TCP. Most SIP stacks work
over RTP.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Gurus - What is your best Asterisk Queue Analyzer and Asterisk Log Analyzer program out there?

2010-07-28 Thread David Backeberg
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:08 PM, bruce bruce bruceb...@gmail.com wrote:
 :-) I knew someone would bring up FreePBX. I have FreePBX installed and it's
 not good for Queues at all. It's using the reporting tool from Areski and

One of the several things you asked for was GUI for cdr database logs.

FreePBX is good for putting a gui on top of doing database cdr log searching.

This of course, assumes your colleagues know enough about using a
database, to be able to use a pull-down web form to do filtering, and
also know enough to not keep clicking when they ask for such a broad
query that it takes several seconds for the database to return the
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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Gurus - What is your best Asterisk Queue Analyzer and Asterisk Log Analyzer program out there?

2010-07-27 Thread David Backeberg
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:34 PM, bruce bruce bruceb...@gmail.com wrote:
 I seem to not be able to find any good open source Asterisk Queue Analyzer
 and Asterisk Log Analyzer on the web.

google 'freepbx'

It does some of what you want. For the rest of what you want, strongly
consider paying a professional consultant.

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Re: [asterisk-users] POE Splitters

2010-07-23 Thread David Backeberg
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Matt mhop...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's not necessarily this simple.  There is an approximately 50-75foot cable
 run through ceilings and walls (CAT5) to the location where the phones will
 be.  At the phone location there is no power.

You always have options. You just have to decide what is more difficult:

* moving the phone/devices somewhere else. Easiest solution.
* having an electrician pull AC power to the location, then use DC
power bricks or PoE switch
* having a data cable person pull more ethernet to the location

If you already have one ethernet cable that managed to make that 50-75
foot run, then clearly it can be done, and a professional could even
use that cable to yank three more along the same run, and then you're
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Re: [asterisk-users] POE Splitters

2010-07-22 Thread David Backeberg
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Matt mhop...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've got an interesting situation where I have one cable run from the feed
 area to the service area.   I have three devices that I need to power at the
 service area.  Is anyone aware of a device that will take the POE from the
 cable run and then allow me to split it to two or three devices at the
 service end?

The obvious answer is don't do that.

*buy DC power bricks for the phones / devices
*buy a small PoE switch for the area, plugged into the single ethernet
cable as a trunk
*pull more cable from the original endpoint

Any of those three will be more reliable and predictable when
debugging than inventing your own PoE solution. I've tried to invent
my own PoE solution using a soldering iron and bulk ethernet cable.
Take it from me, don't go down that road. Yes, you will learn all
manner of interesting things about DC voltage loss over distance,
blah, blah, blah.

Your time is almost undoubtedly worth more money than you'll save by
pursuing the 'conventional approaches'. Just don't do it.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Audacity settings for Asterisk sound files

2010-07-18 Thread David Backeberg
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 6:52 PM, David Shauger sollost...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can anyone provide the settings in Audacity to create a proper wav file
 without having to do additional conversion in the cli? Has to be a way to do
 this with less steps.

If your goal is to 'minimize steps', you should do a batch on the
command line, using Sound eXchange, aka sox.

http://sox.sourceforge.net/

But nobody knows what needs to be converted, nor how, without knowing
your source file format.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Where can I find a minimal set of empty configuration files (SIP only)?

2010-06-26 Thread David Backeberg
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Eyal Goltzman egoltz...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 After installing and learning Asterisk I found myself with a need for a
 minimal set of empty configuration files with only the must have stuff in
 order to setup a SIP only machine, is there a place to find it?

Depends on how you 'installed'.

If source package, then...
'make samples'

sip.conf
It's full of comments.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Big time system

2010-06-25 Thread David Backeberg
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Cary Fitch ca...@usawide.net wrote:
 But, we have an opportunity to get into a big time telecom activity.

 It would have 2000 to 30,000 user lines per city, and we would like to have
 those brought back to a central location for control and because transport
 can be more economical than remote site rentals, maintenance and personnel.

I would say you need to make an RFP process to first negotiate your
calling rate extremely low with the major vendors of the country where
you're operating. If this is US, you're talking Qwest, ATT, Verizon,
and the ilk, and you negotiate an extremely low minute rate in return
for giving them a guaranteed minimum revenue. And while you're at it,
you ask them how they suggest you design the architecture over their
national network.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Big time system

2010-06-25 Thread David Backeberg
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Cary Fitch ca...@usawide.net wrote:
 I see some talking about TNTs in this forum.  Those are 672 lines or in some
 versions double that, what is used behind them to do the processing, etc.

So a channelized DS3 is roughly 28*23 channels in US if you do one
D-channel per PRI (other options are possible). That gets you 644
channels. You can either buy gear that terminates a channelized DS3
natively, like a Cisco AS series device to voip-ify the PSTN channels,
or you can get a device like an Adtran MX2800 which breaks out the DS3
into individual T1/PRIs, which you can then terminate with a number of
different technologies, including a lot of Digium cards, or you can
voipify with appliances like a Cisco 3845.

So you can get a lot of asterisk boxes that have native DAHDI
channels, or you can put a layer in-between that adds expense, but
increases routing options.

That's how the DS3 works. To bundle DS3s, you generally get fiber to
the premise, and demux it at your data center using equipment approved
or provided by your telco of choice. If you're talking 30k channels,
that's some bigger glass, which then demuxes down to OC-whatever,
which eventually demuxes to lots of DS3s, but honestly I've never
worked at a scale past a handful of DS3s, so there may be a vastly
superior way to do things at that scale.

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Re: [asterisk-users] when to use e1/t1 card?

2010-06-21 Thread David Backeberg
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Necati Demir nde...@demir.web.tr wrote:
 This is a really rookie question: when should i use TE110P ISDN PRI Card?

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When you have a single PRI / BRI line you wish to terminate into an
asterisk system.

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[asterisk-users] ring no answer / RONA versus HangUp

2010-06-16 Thread David Backeberg
Hello List:

I'm working on a funny scenario, where I'm bouncing calls from a Cisco
call center into asterisk. Cisco call center has some logic that if a
customer calls in, an agent is logged into a given extension... if
Cisco sends a customer call to that extension, and there is a ring
with no answer after a preset amount of time, Cisco concludes the
agent is unavailable, kicks the agent off the queue, and pulls the
customer call back to the front of the queue for the next available
agent.

This is all good.

My problem is that I'm trying to figure out how best to tell asterisk
'let this ring, and don't pick it up,' that is, I want to exercise
that Cisco behaviour that I've described.

I know if I do not do an Answer() that the call is not yet picked up.
However, if I do a HangUp(), is that functionally equivalent? Can you
Hangup() a channel you never Answer() ed?

I know these are pretty basic questions, but I've never thought about
this problem like this before.

I'm going to go ahead and play, but wanted to brainstorm this on the list.

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Re: [asterisk-users] ring no answer / RONA versus HangUp

2010-06-16 Thread David Backeberg
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Tilghman Lesher tles...@digium.com wrote:
 On Wednesday 16 June 2010 08:21:17 David Backeberg wrote:
 I know if I do not do an Answer() that the call is not yet picked up.
 However, if I do a HangUp(), is that functionally equivalent? Can you
 Hangup() a channel you never Answer() ed?

 A Hangup just returns -1, which causes the dialplan to terminate.  So yes,
 you can Hangup() a call you never answered.

What I was really trying to determine was whether the calling side
would get the same behavior (rings, but no pickup) as if the dialplan
was simulating a phone where nobody was picking it up.

I ended up doing a:

exten = s,1,Wait(10)
exten = s,n,HangUp

essentially, which was good enough for me to simulate 5 seconds of
no-pickup, as perceived by the caller.

Thanks much.

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Re: [asterisk-users] AGI library for C/C++

2010-06-14 Thread David Backeberg
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Vieri rentor...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I'm wondering if anyone knows a good, stable C AGI library (* v. 1.4 and 1.6 
 compatible).
 I've taken a look at CAGI and QUIVR but their latest code releases date back 
 to 2006.
 I've also seen a more recent project (wildpbx) dated 2009:
 http://github.com/comradeb14ck/wildpbx/tree/master/libraries/agi/c/

 Any suggestions/recommendations for a C AGI library?

 Thanks,

 Vieri

I don't have a good answer to your real question. But my experience
with the AGI libraries with Perl is that the real core of AGI is
consistent. You can build on your own libraries to pass arguments
correctly, etc. But the mean idea of AGI should work pretty well from
1.2 to 1.4 to 1.6.

Why don't you try one of those 'old' ones, and see what problems you
run into. In my experience with my Perl AGI, the problems were at the
highest-level 'layer' that was just simple changes like feed it
arguments with commas rather than pipes. Easy changes.

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Re: [asterisk-users] problem with inserting records into cdr

2010-06-04 Thread David Backeberg
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:56 PM,  cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
 Hi.  For several months now asterisk will mysteriously stop inserting
 records into cdr database.  I am using mysql and the asterisk addons
 1.6.2 to accomplish this.  Sometimes there is a strange error about
 column names, but often there is no error, it just stops.  I just have
 to restart asterisk to get things going again, so I am stumped as to
 what is happening, or even how to troubleshoot.  I usually run in
 verbosity 4, but am not seeing anything of interest.

So... I've seen this before, and I can't decide how exactly the
'problem' should be attacked.

In my case, I was trying to centralize cdrs from multiple systems,
down to a single cohesive cdr repository. This would give me a nice
single log point I could dig through. Especially helpful in situations
where you use multiple asterisks for load balancing, but then want a
cohesive set of logs.

Anyway, in my case, I knew for a fact that my mysql db target was
sometimes flaky. Sometimes the underlying i/o layer would freak out.
Or there would be a network hiccup.

Here's my assessment of how cdr_mysql is behaving...

* asterisk sent a db insert to the mysql database for a particular cdr
* but never got that insert acknowledged
* there is no hard limit on when that insert should time out, so
asterisk blocks on this cdr write attempt, which will now never
complete because of some problem outside the control of asterisk
* then there's a traffic jam of cdrs that never even attempt because
the earlier cdr did not complete, and it seems like there's a design
decision that cdrs should write serially, one after the other

What would I like to see as the solution?

That's an excellent question. The obvious fixes are:
* don't have a flaky i/o subsystem on your db box
* don't have a network hiccup

Barring that, it would be nice if we could set an abort timer on the
cdr_mysql insert attempts. This should be user tunable. For all of my
systems, much less than one second should be the return time, and I'd
want an abort after, say, 10 seconds.

I'd want some kind of logging trap thrown, and the error logged
somewhere in /var/log/asterisk or syslog, etc.

What do people think?

I've known about this issue for years, but I've never seen a
discussion on this. Perhaps this has come up before in Mantis.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Meetmee user introduction disabled

2010-06-03 Thread David Backeberg
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Theo Band theo.b...@greenpeak.com wrote:
 I used to build Asterisk from source including the zaptel-dummy module.
 Last year I decided to upgrade and use a yum repository. I hoped that
 this would be less hassle compared to manually chasing after the latest
 release, compiling etc. And after every kernel update the modules need
 to be recompiled. The yum flow does it all for me using this repository:

You're going to have to file a complaint / bug / fix against whoever
maintains your repository, or go back to building from source.

Or get a hardware card to use for timing, as that would solve your
need for dahdi_dummy :)

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Re: [asterisk-users] Delay in IVR

2010-06-02 Thread David Backeberg
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Kingsley Tart kings...@skymarket.co.uk wrote:
 I know nothing of Trixbox but I had a problem with my own dialplan where
 there was a delay with the user selecting 0 from my IVR menu. It turned
 out that because my extensions all started with 0 (they were real phone
 numbers), asterisk thought that the caller might be starting to type one
 of the valid extensions and so waited for the timeout (digit timeout I
 think) before it went further.

A similar thing can happen quite easily with FreePBX, where at least
in the past, the default was that every IVR had an implicit valid
selection of any extension in the system, unless you unchecked the box
that made that happen. It really explained why so many calls were
going to a particular phone before we found that default!

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Re: [asterisk-users] Meetmee user introduction disabled

2010-05-27 Thread David Backeberg
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 4:05 AM, Theo Band theo.b...@greenpeak.com wrote:
 First I noted that dahdi_dummy is no longer present in
 kmod-dahdi-linux-2.3.0.1-1.

Not exactly true.

myhost01 asterisk # lsmod | grep dahdi
dahdi_dummy 5812  0
dahdi_transcode 8968  1 wctc4xxp
dahdi_voicebus 42048  2 wctdm24xxp,wcte12xp
dahdi 198992  24
dahdi_dummy,xpp,dahdi_transcode,wcb4xxp,wctdm,wcfxo,wctdm24xxp,wcte11xp,wct1xxp,wcte12xp,dahdi_voicebus,wct4xxp
crc_ccitt   4096  2 wctdm24xxp,dahdi

myhost01 asterisk # dmesg | grep dahdi
dahdi: Telephony Interface Registered on major 196
dahdi: Version: 2.3.0

 Reverting back to kmod-dahdi-linux-2.2.1-1
 solved that issue, now the module is loaded again.

I suppose it would. I got dahdi_dummy with 2.3.0 by analyzing how the
build process worked, and doing some tricks. I could see dahdi_dummy.c
was in the package but it wasn't getting built.

Here's the trick.

If you pull down the combined dahdi package, extract it,
cd into the extracted top-level folder
cd linux (which is the dahdi proper stuff)

make MODULES_EXTRA=dahdi_dummy

That worked for me.
Do the make install too.

asktest01 linux # make MODULES_EXTRA=dahdi_dummy
make -C drivers/dahdi/firmware firmware-loaders
make[1]: Entering directory
`/usr/local/src/dahdi-linux-complete-2.3.0+2.3.0/linux/drivers/dahdi/firmware'
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/usr/local/src/dahdi-linux-complete-2.3.0+2.3.0/linux/drivers/dahdi/firmware'
make -C /lib/modules/2.6.28.9/build
SUBDIRS=/usr/local/src/dahdi-linux-complete-2.3.0+2.3.0/linux/drivers/dahdi
DAHDI_INCLUDE=/usr/local/src/dahdi-linux-complete-2.3.0+2.3.0/linux/include
DAHDI_MODULES_EXTRA=dahdi_dummy.o  HOTPLUG_FIRMWARE=yes modules
DAHDI_BUILD_ALL=m
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.28.9'
  CC [M]  
/usr/local/src/dahdi-linux-complete-2.3.0+2.3.0/linux/drivers/dahdi/dahdi_dummy.o

  Building modules, stage 2.
  MODPOST 31 modules
  CC  
/usr/local/src/dahdi-linux-complete-2.3.0+2.3.0/linux/drivers/dahdi/dahdi_dummy.mod.o
  LD [M]  
/usr/local/src/dahdi-linux-complete-2.3.0+2.3.0/linux/drivers/dahdi/dahdi_dummy.ko
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.28.9'

It seems that these days you need to provide extra arguments to get
dahdi_dummy, and it's getting filtered by default.

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Re: [asterisk-users] [0017330] 1.6.1 and 1.6.2 + MySQL crases on ODBC Query (via func_odbc or sip realtime)

2010-05-24 Thread David Backeberg
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Marcin J. Kowalczyk
marcin.kowalc...@ccig.pl wrote:
 Medium load system (~300 simultaneous calls) crases few times a day.
 1.6.1.19 but then upgraded to 1.6.2.7 but it's not solving issue.

 Any idea what can be wrong/tunned?

I've three times had unexplained crashes of asterisk 1.6.2.6, and they
seemed to be load related.

I'm doing heavy Perl AGI.

I've had other things in my todo list so I haven't circled back to investigate.

I know there's a way to rebuild asterisk in a way that the coredumps
are actually useful.

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+debugging
if the make valgrind thing is invalid advice to build a useful
debuggable version of core dumps, please somebody point to the correct
directions.

I have not rebuilt, again because I haven't found proper time to devote to this.

I have a previous iteration of my systems where I ran with about
double the number of calls with 1.6.0.5 with no crashes, and if I
continue to have a tight schedule I'll back up to that version.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Which issue is keeping you from updrading to 1.6.2 ?

2010-05-20 Thread David Backeberg
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Olivier oza_4...@yahoo.fr wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm evaluating what could keep me from upgrading production systems to
 1.6.2.
 As 1.6.2 seems pretty close to 1.6.1 but I gave 1.6.2 a try but I met an
 issue with BLF-pickup which kept me from going further.

 Have you met other issues I should include include in my checklist ?

meetme CLI arguments changed between 1.6.0 and 1.6.2
Don't know where the delta was, and I haven't looked.
I prefer the new syntax, and especially prefer the 'concise' option,
but it might break features people have built in the past.

Specifically,
1.6.0 'meetme' is replaced with 1.6.2 'meetme list'
1.6.2 'meetme' errors out, and requires an argument
1.6.0 'meetme list' would error out wanting a room argument
'meetme list ' works same on 1.6.0 and 1.6.2
'meetme list concise' and 'meetme list  concise' in 1.6.2 are nice.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Cluster

2010-05-19 Thread David Backeberg
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Adolphe Cher-Aime achera...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello  Everyone,
                         I  must deploy an asterisk system that can support
 at least 500 pstn outbound calls.
 It's a challenge as  it's the first time i'm gonna build such a large
 system.
 I want to have your advice on hardware, software and so on . What i have in
 my plan is a cluster of servers with quad PRI cards.
 I will appreciate your advice.

I don't know what you've done for your smaller deployments. Different
people have different opinions.

My personal preference, if this is United States:

DS3 - Adtran channel bank, break out PRIs
PRIs - multiple Cisco PRI-SIP appliances. A 3845 maxed out can do 24
PRIs. I recommend using two and splitting load for capacity /
failover.
Using pure SIP between the gateway appliances and at least two
asterisk boxes for flexibility and failover-ability.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4.30 T38

2010-05-18 Thread David Backeberg
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 6:14 AM, Jonas Kellens jonas.kell...@telenet.be wrote:
 I read on voip-info.org that Asterisk 1.4 support T38 passthrough.

That may or may not be true. I do not know.

I do know that I've had much better success with fax in 1.6 than I
ever had in 1.4.

My personal experience is that fax works better in 1.6.

My personal prejudice is to recommend you upgrade rather than fight
1.4 for this.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Need fax solution for 1.4.xx

2010-05-12 Thread David Backeberg
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Steve Underwood ste...@coppice.org wrote:
 On 05/12/2010 08:46 AM, David Backeberg wrote:
 So buy an asterisk appliance that supports fax, and then you can pay
 somebody else to do the upgrade.
 Does that appliance actually support FAX? The web pages don't mention it.

It occurred to me that it might not, after I wrote that.

It does support fax pass-through to the onboard RJ-11 FXS ports, but
it doesn't mention native softfax termination.

My best answer is 'I don't know', but the absence of mention seems significant.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk core dumping on SendFax with FFA

2010-05-12 Thread David Backeberg
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Ben Dinnerville b...@voicelogic.com.au wrote:
 We are still getting an issue with a particular file which I have tried
 multiple different ways to create to no avail. The tiff file is created
 with ghostscript from a pdf as per the guidlines but every time we try
 and fax it we get the following:

Try using ReceiveFax(),
and use a pdf=to-fax service or your own fax machine to fax it to your
asterisk machine.

That will give you an asterisk-created tiff of your pdf.

I used ReceiveFax() to generate the tiffs I use for SendFax() testing.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Digits and Vestec

2010-05-11 Thread David Backeberg
Make it say 'zed'.
It will make the British happy, and cause a different kind of
confusion for the Americans.

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Richard Kenner ken...@gnat.com wrote:
 This one works on my box (Vestec on 1.4.30 on OpenSuse)

 Hmm... Not for me.

 $Digit = (ONE:1 |
 TWO:2 |
 THREE:3 |
 FOUR:4 |
 FIVE:5 |
 SIX:6 |
 SEVEN:7 |
 EIGHT:8 |
 NINE:9 |
 (OH|ZERO):0);

 This is basically the first thing I tried.  At least for my voice, this
 gets whole lot of spurious 0's.  I just tried exactly that (I had
 the zero case first) and still no-go.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Digits and Vestec

2010-05-11 Thread David Backeberg
Ummm, zed is z.
I was thinking of nought.

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:39 PM, David Backeberg dbackeb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Make it say 'zed'.
 It will make the British happy, and cause a different kind of
 confusion for the Americans.

 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Richard Kenner ken...@gnat.com wrote:
 This one works on my box (Vestec on 1.4.30 on OpenSuse)

 Hmm... Not for me.

 $Digit = (ONE:1 |
 TWO:2 |
 THREE:3 |
 FOUR:4 |
 FIVE:5 |
 SIX:6 |
 SEVEN:7 |
 EIGHT:8 |
 NINE:9 |
 (OH|ZERO):0);

 This is basically the first thing I tried.  At least for my voice, this
 gets whole lot of spurious 0's.  I just tried exactly that (I had
 the zero case first) and still no-go.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Need fax solution for 1.4.xx

2010-05-11 Thread David Backeberg
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:30 PM, William Stillwell (Lists)
william.stillwell-li...@ablebody.net wrote:
 Anybody know a reliable fax solution for 1.4.30 branch?


 I am using PikaFax  on another server and works very well (about 3000 faxes
 a week), but it appears they no longer offer their product to open source
 asterisk, only for there “WARP” appliance.

 NOT really looking to migrate from 1.4.x to 1.6.x

So buy an asterisk appliance that supports fax, and then you can pay
somebody else to do the upgrade.

http://www.digium.com/en/products/appliance/

Native 1.6 fax is really quite good. It's worth reading the release
notes and doing the upgrade.

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