RE: [Asterisk-Users] ultra-cheap asterisk box

2004-01-16 Thread David Mynatt
That's really good.  Can you share the Dell contact info?




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I have a Dell 400sc sever on order. It will be shipped on the 27th. It
is a 2.4GHz P4 with a 533 MHz front side bus, a 40GB disk, 128MB of
memory, sound card, ethernet, and year of on-site next day maintenance. 

It is $318 delivered after rebates. Yes, $318.  

This is a real server, by the way, not a desktop machine. It also makes
NO noise. I can't hear a thing with my ear right next to it. 

Why would you even THINK about getting anything else? 

Paul

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I'm looking to do about the same thing, build very low cost systems.
(I'm looking at putting Asterisk at some
non-profit organizations.)   but one thing you can't make
a compromise on is reliabilty.  It has to work and keep working for
years to come.  I was able to keep the price of a new PC to about $300
ad still use an ASUS mainboard and an AMD XP2600+ The trick is to add
absolutly nothing not needed.  No floppy, no CDROM so you can run off a
200W P/S.  Next I'll experiment with a notebook sized IDE disk drives
and to see if _underclocking_ the CPU reduces it's power comsumption
enough that we can save one fan.

Ideally Asterisk will be ported one day to Linux/ARM or some other very
low cost platform.  for VOIP you do not need the PCI slots.  In theory
Asterisk could run on a Lynksys router box with re-flashed EEPROM.
After all Lynksys' latest wireless router runs Linux inside

Low cost to me means low total cost of ownership  To get this I don't
think buying the lowest priced parts is the way to go. I want quality
mainboard, and a quality power supply and, this is importernt:  A low
internal case temperature.  for this reason I'll spend the extra $50 to
go with Antec cases and ASUS mainboards over the generic ones.

What I'm finding is that the PCs are so cheap that the cost of electric
power to run them is now a large part of the cost. (assume 0.20/kwh
times 200W times 365 days = $350.  So you pay for the PC again every
year in electric power to run it. Worse.  In an office with
airconditioning _all_ of that PC's 200W goes to heat and your A/C unit
will use about 220W of power to remove that 200W of heat.) and at a
small office they will not have a server room so noise from the fan is
an issue.

--- Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi all
 
 what about this...
 I just put together a box on a web shop (komplett.no) that will cost 
 me NOK ~1850 (¤ 216) plus a small ¤50 drive and cables, so say ¤300.
 This
 consists of a cheap MB with a duron 1400, 256MB SDRAM and two HFC-PCI
 cards (if capijod will finish off the zaptel-driver soon). This is
 all
 in a cheap PC case.
 
 What do you think? Should this be doable? as a product? With only IP 
 phones and potentially a fax solution? any ideas?
 
 thanks
 
 roy
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] asterisk.org webpage

2004-01-15 Thread David Mynatt
I get 'Access Denied'...   Can it be downloaded zip or tar ball?


Dave





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Hi!

 for new users, finding asterisk info is unneccesary troublesome. the 
 asterisk.org page has very little information about the product and 
 using google for 'asterisk' is like using google for 'linux'. you get 
 all too many hits that has nothing to do with the product. perhaps the

 asterisk.org page at least should point to voip-info.org? or perhaps 
 it's time someone rewrote the page?

Here's my little attempt to adjust the README file:
http://bugs.digium.com/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=846

Cheers, Philipp


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] ultra-cheap asterisk box

2004-01-15 Thread David Mynatt
Are you wanting to make a pre-built * box, with hardware to connect a
single dial line and one traditional phone, or.. ?

Dave


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 hi all
 
 what about this...
 I just put together a box on a web shop (komplett.no) that
 will cost me NOK ~1850 ( 216) plus a small 50 drive and 
 cables, so say 300. This consists of a cheap MB with a duron 
 1400, 256MB SDRAM and two HFC-PCI cards (if capijod will 
 finish off the zaptel-driver soon). This is all in a cheap PC case.
 
 What do you think? Should this be doable? as a product? With
 only IP phones and potentially a fax solution? any ideas?

I've got one system with 10 IP phones + SIP term + 2 FXS + 4 FXO running
on a P700 with 256 MB RAM.  It works just fine, and the CPU is rarely
over 40%.

Sounds like that box will work from a capability standpoint. Daryl G.
Jurbala BMPC Network Operations Tel (NY): +1 917 477 0468 x235 Tel (MI):
+1 616 608 0004 x235 Tel (UK): +44 208 792 6813 x235
Fax: +1 508 526 8500
INOC-DBA: 26412*DGJ

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Disturbing trend of * production boxes that shouldn't be

2004-01-15 Thread David Mynatt
It's spelled MCI, WorldCom, Sprint, T-Mobile...  All the same except for
the billing and the twists and turns of the contract.  Whatever happened
to POTS (i.e., Bell System.)

An Old ATT 4A/ETS and ESS/S7 Craft
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that shouldn't be


how do you spell Teleecooomm again?


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Whaaa?? So, to allow 24+ lines of dial in access, how would I
configure it?

Would I need to purchase or lease a voice-over-ip box to
connect our T1 or phone lines into?  And then from there send 
the VOIP to the linux/Asterisk box for recording?

(forgive me, Im new to telephony, but I need to make this work) :-)



This is a disturbing trendpeople who don't know much about Asterisk

and/or Linux and/or telephony who Need to make these things work or 
need to know how to update [their] production box installation...sorry

I don't know Linux at all.

Asterisk is great, but to maintain it and especially to repair things 
when they've gone wrong, you need to know what you're doing.  Its your 
job (the people I'm talking about know who they are), so do as you 
wish, but I sure would install something I know little or nothing about

and call it production.

Daryl G. Jurbala
BMPC Network Operations
Tel (NY): +1 917 477 0468 x235
Tel (MI): +1 616 608 0004 x235
Tel (UK): +44 208 792 6813 x235
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] asterisk.org webpage

2004-01-15 Thread David Mynatt
Oooops... A little jump ahead.  It asked for sign on etc... Got it now,
mucho thanks and understanding my slow brain... :-}




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I get 'Access Denied'...   Can it be downloaded zip or tar ball?


Dave





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Hi!

 for new users, finding asterisk info is unneccesary troublesome. the
 asterisk.org page has very little information about the product and 
 using google for 'asterisk' is like using google for 'linux'. you get 
 all too many hits that has nothing to do with the product. perhaps the

 asterisk.org page at least should point to voip-info.org? or perhaps
 it's time someone rewrote the page?

Here's my little attempt to adjust the README file:
http://bugs.digium.com/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=846

Cheers, Philipp


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