RE: [Asterisk-Users] AstriCon 2006 Location
If you are looking for the maximum number of cheap flights from around the world, and plenty of convention and room space, the answer is Las Vegas :-) I would definitively agree! Senad ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] AstriCon 2006 Location
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Capouch wrote: Senad J wrote: If you are looking for the maximum number of cheap flights from around the world, and plenty of convention and room space, the answer is Las Vegas :-) I would definitively agree! Yes, but what would one do there? One who doesn't gamble, drink, or carouse, that is. I am making my first trip to LV later this Fall, and I dread it. I can't imagine what I'll be able to find to do when I'm not at the conference. Man... you are literally talking about entertainment capitol of the world. Look here to start with: http://www.vegas.com/attractions/?f=submoret=mattrt PSS... Bring PLENTY of money though :) ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] MGCP service from Free Télécom
Somewhat off topic, who makes the hardware that Free is using? Is it available/being used in the US? http://www.broadcom.com/ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Community Participant; Katrina Refugee
I have bought and collected equipment since being in Telecommunications, VoIP and Internet Technologies for 15 years that are irreplaceable but I will re-build my VoIP laboratory bigger and better than ever. If anyone has any trade secrets on successfully recovering waterlogged electronic equipment, please let me know. God Bless. God Bless indeed. Loosing the lab and everything in it I can certainly imagine will set you back. However, I also believe that the knowledge you acquired is your best bet to rebuild and improve on what you had. Just a though I had that may give you little encouragement. Best of luck to you and your family. Regards, Senad JR Richardson ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] looking for failover ideas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had an idea of using two identical servers: Server A with IP x.x.x.a and server B with IP x.x.x.b. Server A is live while server B sits in the background monitoring server A. Server B rsync's asterisk config files daily with server A. In the event of server A going down, server B changes it's IP to x.x.x.a. The calls will obviously drop, but should register with server B. Comments??? We use it... works just fine as you describe it. Senad ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] looking for failover ideas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you do monitoritng? How Server B knows that Servar A is down? I just do a rsync and MySQL Replication, but I try to do a C program that monitor Server. If you know how can I do this monitoring I will be pleasant with you. 1. use heartbeat for failover between A and B. Setup correctly failover is fully automatic. 2. u can use www.nagios.org or similar installed on C to monitor A and B Senad ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] looking for failover ideas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you do monitoritng? How Server B knows that Servar A is down? I just do a rsync and MySQL Replication, but I try to do a C program that monitor Server. If you know how can I do this monitoring I will be pleasant with you. http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+High+Availability+Solu tions ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI?
If your intention is just to build a GUI for Asterisk, read no further. If your desire is to build something more purposeful, your best bet would be to see the existing commercial GUI/HostedPBX offerings like Pbxware and Switchware from bicomsystems.com ( http://www.bicomsystems.com) and Thirdlane Technologies (http://www.thirdlane.com/opensource.htm) and the Open Source software like AMP and try to emulate (or preferably improve upon) them. My suggestion is to create a VOIP Business in a Box System that has inter-alia following list of modules: 1) GUI To configure Administer Asterisk Extensions across many servers 2) Postpaid and Prepaid Billing modules with realtime call progress detection and call cut-off 3)CRM Module for customers to register and provide their information for recurring billing. 4)Web based conference room management module 5)Web based click to dial and callback module Many of these modules are already available on Open Source like SugarCRM, AsreskiCC etc., and [EMAIL PROTECTED] CD contains AMP and SugarCRM at this time, besides other Open Source utilities like PhpMyAdmin. Here is the bottomline: -- The real need is for a commercially deployable solution that can create a business, without too many additions to it. Bicom Systems has promised for too long that their Pbxware and Switchware can fullfill this need to create a business, but they never deliverd their promise. PBXware and Switchware have been a total and expensive disappointment to me and for the few who invested in them. I would not normally reply on a post like this, but since you are publicly expressing your opinion on products and services that we offer, I must defend our years of work. We have PBXware and SWITCHware deployed at many locations around the globe - all working just fine. The combination of SWITCHware and other applications (Billing, CMS, Products Services Database, Media Proxy, SER, Cluster servers etc) form what we call Telco in a BOX. We have deployed such solutions in North America, Europe and shortly Asia. Our clients are small to medium and some of largest blue chip corporate companies in the world and even Chip Manufacturers. Our distributors include approved Digium distributors and have been deploying our products with no major issues. As for expensive disappointment ... What is expensive ? If you mean a small switch costing several thousands or complete solutions costing several hundred of thousands. Take your pick ... In addition, our clients we deal on regular basis do not disappear. Each and every client is looked after by us. They do not, install the software try it and then come back after several weeks/months and start the install process all over again... That is not a workable model for anyone. Our installed clients certainly do not try to look into our source code and then say it is not working. As for putting Business in a BOX and any of the many other projects together of which this list has had to endure from you in the past 24 months, we wish you the best of luck and trust that they neither have proved too expensive or disappointing to discourage you further. Senad Jordanovic www.bicomsystems.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Senad, I don't want to take this conversation much further and send a laundry list of issues we faced with Switchware to this forum, and the myriads of bugs we have wrestled with in the past 18 months, as that list is too long and this forum is not for that purpose. We never said that our solutions are without bugs... However, we sort bugs like no other company that I know off. In addition, software without new features (and consequently producing bugs) is usually dead software. In addition, our clients we deal on regular basis do not disappear. Each and every client is looked after by us. They do not, install the software try it and then come back after several weeks/months and start the install process all over again... That is not a workable model for anyone. The answer to your above comments is already known to you and it is already mentioned in Para-1. As you already knew, the two install efforts by me, one in September-October 2004 and One in November-December 2004 have failed to install a working software. On several occasions when I have reverted back to you on giving me a working version, your answer ( as well as Stephen Wingfield's ) was that Bicom don't have one ready. Failed to install.. incorrect, system was installed and was working. The fact that you tried to install ASTCC and god know what else with it is was not and will not be supported by us. After you destroyed working copy, we offered to re-install it (for a charge of $250), but you have chosen the option to wait for SWITCHware CD. So, far we have not produced SWITCHware CD because SWITCHware product is too valuable to be distributed by CD. Infact, as I remember this correctly, Switchware was taken out of your product list due to these issues. As for us taking down SWITCHware off the product list... yes, you are right. We had too many people wanting to buy it with additional features added to it so we took it off the product list. Moreover is it ethical or legitimate to sell a software that has to be installed only by your technical team and works only on a specific hardware for a given network card and for a given IP. You don't even have a tarball to download and install till today, let alone a CD image?. This is not the way products are sold, where everything is closed, even the features of Asterisk that are available otherwise. It is our business model that you questioning... What is next.. do you want to tell me what to wear? Our installed clients certainly do not try to look into our source code and then say it is not working. I don't understand what you mean by looking into your source code, but if you mean that once Switchware is installed, live with what Bicom allows you to do with Asterisk, and don't ask questions like 'Why Cannot I use 4 Digit extensions' or 'Why cant I use ASTCC with Switchware' Because ACTCC it is NOT our supported product... or 'Why cannot I create more than X number of channels' Because every hardware box has limitation on how many calls it can process. or millions of other such questions, my answer is that this is totally out of line with the purpose of Asterisk as an Open Source software and if Digium knew what is going on, probably you are going to have legal issues as far as the GPL of the code is concerned, in the same way Sysmaster did with their SM7000 products. Are you a lawyer, or Digium representative to be able to make this comments? Your Channel Locking and per channel pricing policy I am sure will put Oracle and Larry Ellsion to shame. I feel that Bicom should have spent more time making Switchware or PBXware work cleanly, rather than spending most of the time in copy protecting and closed sourcing Asterisk so that if the customer has to move the installation to another server, they have to call you for a new license code and pay you for the installation, rather than doing it himself. Again.. this is OUR business model... NOT yours. In addition to all of the above, how many times did we fail to respond to your support query or a just a simple chat? In another words, you bringing up your issues here to this mailing list has done no favour to any one and we will NOT watch our reputation being talked about I do not think that other list users wish to read about issues which are not directly related to asterisk. You will not receive further reply from me on the matter. Senad Jordanovic ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Hardware sizing
Hi all, I need some help/guidance on writing the specs needed on a project that will be scaling up to 10,000 users. I will have some T1's to provide PSTN connectivity, and all the users will be SIP and/or H323 phones. Services offered will include conferences, voicemail (20 megs per users), etc Should I use SER in front of asterisk to handle the SIP load ? I think I should put the voicemail server and conference server each on a seperate box. What kind of hardware would be preferred ? dual-Xeon or Quad Xeon ? What about redundancy ? What solutions can I look into for this ? Any help appreciated. Any link and/or documentation. I search with google but didn't find relevant informations. Maybe I just didn't put the right terms in the search box. We are deploying 10,000 cluster node for an ITSP start up in Las Vegas next week. Folowing the installation, on the 22nd July we are presenting our SWITCHware and Telco in BOX products in local hotel. Telco in a BOX is combination of SER/asterisk/media proxy/ and a number of custom applications we wrote (SWITCHware, CRM, CMS, Products and Services database, Billing, Accounts management etc..) All interested parties should send an email to: lasvegas at bicomsystems dot com Senad ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] voicemail.conf from DB
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi tks for the feedback, the admintool i cant use, because users create/add themselves to the system themselves, could be 100 or 1000+ users. Hence I could get my script which create user/pass details in myqsql to call the voicemail script to create the physical path on the server, but appending 1000+ lines to voicemail.conf doesnt seem like a good idea, and then reloading each time. I looked at the realtime feature in asterisk and it looked good, yap... it sounds promissing want to store the voicemail on the server itself, (wish i could change the dir struture though, rather than have one ../context/voicemail etc I would want it split like a mbox mail directory structure for large scalabilty---but thats another story-new thread), Why not use GFS or similar for this purpose. Since GFS it is global/cluster file system you can expand it, it is fully posix complient etc. and you do not need to worry about creating ../context/voicemail. and the mapping , user/pass details for each user pull from the DB. Iqbal On 5/16/2005, Senad J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but the other choice is to keep editing the voicemail.conf file, everytime I add a new user, which again is not really scalable. Using an administration interface of some kind will solve this issue. I dont wish to store the voicemail in the DB, just the conf file itself, mysql will easily in a clusered scenario support 100K+ entries. Fine... What setup would you recommend Do do what? Senad ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] voicemail.conf from DB
In my opinion.. using voicemail from DB is not good for scaling up scenarios... in particular if you need to provide HA of five nine... 99.999% The cluster database (well in particular MYSQL puts everything in RAM)... so as the user base grows.. so does RAM requirement... Ta Senad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I have been playing with trying to get voicemail.conf from DB, I am using cvs-head, but when I start asterisk, it dies a horrible death, because it cant load any voicemil setting. I looked at my mysql logs to see what query was being sent, and I get SELECT category, var_name, var_val, cat_metric FROM voicemail_users WHERE filename='voicemail.conf' and commented=0 ORDER BY filename, cat_metric desc, var_metric asc, category, var_name, var_val, id; which is in no way related to the table I created following the example on the wiki. Is there another table format , I have +-+---+--+-+-++ Field | Type | Null | Key | Default | Extra | +-+---+--+-+-++ uniqueid| int(11) | | PRI | NULL| auto_increment | customer_id | int(11) | | | 0 || context | varchar(50) | | | || mailbox | int(5)| | MUL | 0 || password| varchar(4)| | | 0 || fullname| varchar(50) | | | || email | varchar(50) | | | || pager | varchar(50) | | | || stamp | timestamp(14) | YES | | NULL|| +-+---+--+-+-++ tks Iqbal ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] voicemail.conf from DB
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but the other choice is to keep editing the voicemail.conf file, everytime I add a new user, which again is not really scalable. Using an administration interface of some kind will solve this issue. I dont wish to store the voicemail in the DB, just the conf file itself, mysql will easily in a clusered scenario support 100K+ entries. Fine... What setup would you recommend Do do what? Senad ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] voicemail.conf from DB
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually using voicemail from db is alot smarter then using SIP from the database. Depens how you administer your configuration files. But that is mostly due to the fact that realtime queries the database 4 times everytime it needs a sip record. Also mysql doesn't keep everything in memory at all. It only keeps stuff it needs to in memory, that it finds itself accessing alot. The algorithms are pretty damn good in mysql about what to keep in memory. I was not talking about MySQL on a single host... I was refering to MYSQL Cluster. Regards, Senad ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Astlinux AMP
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've looked into this. The important reasons as to 'why this shouldn't happen' are: Requires a Database - (bad for flash, also very large) Needs apache + php (+30 odd mb) A fair whack of perl modules (+10mb) == Too large, too cumbersome. You can have PBXware on it in native mode with no installation curve of any kind. Just plug compact flash, fire up the browser and you are off :) Please contact Kris for details. Senad ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Astlinux AMP
Callum McGillivray wrote: Senad, the specs on the site for the minimum version seem to indicate a HDD of at least 2Gb. Am I wrong here... is there something that I am not seeing ? That was a type error... corrected. thanks :) Also... PBXware costs money and I don't want my cheap $1,000 unit to become a $2,000 unit. Contact Kris for more details please... :) ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
