Re: [asterisk-users] Really Silly Question From Total Newbie

2010-01-07 Thread UIT DEVELOPMENT
Hello Tiago,  I think that this is the route I will be trying to go as
its a proof of concept sort of project.  After that - we'll see.
Thank you!

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Tiago Geada tiago.ge...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello there!

 If your box has a live Internet connection, then all you need is a sip
 provider.

 Back to when I lived in the UK, there was this voipuser.org which gave me
 a fixed british number for free, and some outbound call minutes too.

 I'm sure that if you search around for SIP Providers, you may be able to
 find some free stuff.
 I believe that Outbound calls cost money, not incoming calls. I'm not
 totally sure tho.

 Anyway, you should find a provider and try to register with them,


 -

 Regards,

 Tiago Lourenço Geada

 2010/1/5 UIT DEVELOPMENT uit...@gmail.com

 Jamie - I will check that out!  Thanks!   It is just for testing and
 yes, the Asterisk box is connected to the Internet.  Cool.

 -M

 On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Jamie A. Stapleton
 jstaple...@computer-business.com wrote:
  Could use the free http://www.sipgate.com/one for some testing (assuming
  that Asterisk is connected to the Internet)
 
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  Subject: [asterisk-users] Really Silly Question From Total Newbie
 
  Hello All -
 
  I've been poking around the past few weeks, trying to familiarize
  myself with all of this.  I am new to Linux, VoIP and Asterisk -- to
  be complete.   This is my first exposure to all of these technologies.
 
  I installed AsteriskNow on my old dual Pentium 833mhz Dell PowerEdge
  2400 and the install went well.   I can log in and poke around in
  Linux and I even configured the box to be recognized on my windows
  network.  However, is there a GUI that I can access to help me set
  things up?  I've gotten so far as what looks to me like DOS windows
  that I can change various things in the OS...
 
  I do not have any other hardware installed.  No cards and no VoIP
  phones.   I havent got to the point where I can make a test call or
  anything like that.  I dont know how to tell if Asterisk is up and
  running and how I can tweak it, etc.   I've been reading a lot of
  different things, and have become a bit confused. I think that in time
  it will come to me but I needed to stop and ask because I need to know
  if I am on the wrong path for what I'd like to do someday
 
  My main question is: CAN I make call from that box to my cell phone
  using a soft-phone?   If so, how can I do that?   Also, can I use my
  cell phone to call into that box?   I dont know if I have to get a
  phone number, or do I NEED a phone number?   At the moment, I do not
  have any dollars to throw at this project.   Its purely for learning,
  proof of concept sort of thing for myself on my spare time in the
  evenings.  I would simply like to be able to call out and be able to
  call into that box.  Later on down the road maybe I will get into
  setting up an IVR using a database so I can call into that system from
  wherever and get information read back to me.  But, first things
  first  I'd like to know if I am heading down the wrong path here.
 
  Sorry for what might seem as really silly questions, but I am not sure
  how to proceed.
 
  Thanks in advance for any insight that you folks can provide!
 
  Mike
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Really Silly Question From Total Newbie

2010-01-06 Thread UIT DEVELOPMENT
Cool - thanks!

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Ira i...@extrasensory.com wrote:
 At 05:31 PM 1/5/2010, you wrote:
Ah, good idea.  :-)   Are you saying that if I got a number that was
in my parents area code then they could be making a local call to my
Asterisk, which is physically a 1000+ miles from them?   Now that is
cool.


 Once you have Asterisk set up you can essentially get local numbers
 anywhere, Some countries are harder than others but almost any area
 code in the US for $1.50/month + 1.4 cents/minute or less is
 possible.  The free one I pointed out will likely give you one in a
 useless place to you, but it's free, number and minutes, perfect for
 calling home from a cell.  Also, the cheapest ATT cell phone will let
 you call each other unlimited for free.

 Ira


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[asterisk-users] Really Silly Question From Total Newbie

2010-01-05 Thread UIT DEVELOPMENT
Hello All -

I've been poking around the past few weeks, trying to familiarize
myself with all of this.  I am new to Linux, VoIP and Asterisk -- to
be complete.   This is my first exposure to all of these technologies.

I installed AsteriskNow on my old dual Pentium 833mhz Dell PowerEdge
2400 and the install went well.   I can log in and poke around in
Linux and I even configured the box to be recognized on my windows
network.  However, is there a GUI that I can access to help me set
things up?  I've gotten so far as what looks to me like DOS windows
that I can change various things in the OS...

I do not have any other hardware installed.  No cards and no VoIP
phones.   I havent got to the point where I can make a test call or
anything like that.  I dont know how to tell if Asterisk is up and
running and how I can tweak it, etc.   I've been reading a lot of
different things, and have become a bit confused. I think that in time
it will come to me but I needed to stop and ask because I need to know
if I am on the wrong path for what I'd like to do someday

My main question is: CAN I make call from that box to my cell phone
using a soft-phone?   If so, how can I do that?   Also, can I use my
cell phone to call into that box?   I dont know if I have to get a
phone number, or do I NEED a phone number?   At the moment, I do not
have any dollars to throw at this project.   Its purely for learning,
proof of concept sort of thing for myself on my spare time in the
evenings.  I would simply like to be able to call out and be able to
call into that box.  Later on down the road maybe I will get into
setting up an IVR using a database so I can call into that system from
wherever and get information read back to me.  But, first things
first  I'd like to know if I am heading down the wrong path here.

Sorry for what might seem as really silly questions, but I am not sure
how to proceed.

Thanks in advance for any insight that you folks can provide!

Mike

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Re: [asterisk-users] Really Silly Question From Total Newbie

2010-01-05 Thread UIT DEVELOPMENT
Will do Barry.  Thanks for the links!   Downloading now..   Mike

On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Barry L. Kline blkl...@attglobal.net wrote:
 UIT DEVELOPMENT wrote:

 Sorry for what might seem as really silly questions, but I am not sure
 how to proceed.

 Thanks in advance for any insight that you folks can provide!

 Hello Mike.

 Welcome to the wonderful world of Asterisk.  Before you sludge through a
 GUI and all the attendant bad habits that can produce, I suggest that
 you download what we consider to be the Bible of Asterisk.  The infobot
 on IRC says:

 thebook is Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN
 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at
 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF
 http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at
 http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org;

 Download that and read the first few chapters.  It will make your
 Asterisk experience a lot more enjoyable and will help you understand
 what you're doing.

 This list, and the IRC channel #asterisk, are good resources when you
 finally get to the point where you're stuck and need some help.

 Regards,

 Barry

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Re: [asterisk-users] Really Silly Question From Total Newbie

2010-01-05 Thread UIT DEVELOPMENT
Thanks Randy!

On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Randy R randulo2...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 8:53 PM, UIT DEVELOPMENT uit...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've been poking around the past few weeks, trying to familiarize
 myself with all of this.  I am new to Linux, VoIP and Asterisk -- to
 be complete.   This is my first exposure to all of these technologies.

 I think one of the best things to do is to read this book:
 http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596009625

 It will allow you to ask specific questions about stuff you may not
 get but in the meantime it will tell you all the basic things about
 what asterisk can do in terms a newbie can easily assimilate.

 There are also a lot of web sites out there with tutorials about the
 world of VoIP and Asterisk, and of course the IRC channel #asterisk on
 Freenode.net

 /r

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Re: [asterisk-users] Really Silly Question From Total Newbie

2010-01-05 Thread UIT DEVELOPMENT
James,

Thank you for the reply.  I do not have phone service in my home.
I've been 100% cell since 2003.  I do have an old analog phone - big
heavy thing...  If I connect it to the wall outlet there is nothing.
I've tried every outlet in the house.  I didnt expect to find a tone
as we've never connected phone service here.

My assumption, however stupid it might be, is that I could set this up
to make calls but as I began to read more and more I started reading
about gateways and other costly services that I was hoping to avoid --
for now at least.  This all began when my wife went food shopping
around the holiddays and wanted to know if we had something or not
already, and I wasnt home to confirm or not.   So I got to thinking,
if she could call the VoIP box and get one of those press 1 for
spices... press 2 for dry foods, press 3 for canned goods, press 4 for
snacks, press 5 for drinks. and it would access a
database that I already have set up with our groceries already in
there.   Yea - geeky, I know.  :-)

So that was the plan but first I needed to be able to get this thing
set up.  I THINK you're saying I need to purchase another service to
get myself to make calls.   I dont know anyone with a SIP server..
I'd rather keep it all inside our home if possible.  I've got a lot of
old hardware laying around and I do have MODEMs - internal and
external 56k types.   Thanks for the hints.  I'll check into Magic
Jack type stuff and see how it can help.

-M


On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:19 PM, James A. Shigley j...@answeringserv.com wrote:
 I can't help you two much with configuration of linux, but as to the call 
 question. You will need some route for the server to be capable of 
 sending/receiving calls. There is a couple of ways to do this cheaply.

 Buy a standard telephone modem (usb, pci, or serial). And plug into wall a 
 jack. This will only allow you one call at a time. But if this is just a 
 proof of concept that sounds like it will be plenty. Your number would be 
 whatever the phone jack corresponds to.

 Integrate it with something like skype.

 Buy one of the products similar to a magic jack which will work with linux.

 Or if you know someone who has a sip server already running. And is amiable 
 to letting you piggy back off of it. Your  phone number would point to that 
 person's Server (be it one of the friends that the person is lending you, or 
 a number that you have forwarded/ported at/to them) with it set to forward to 
 your asterisk server. from there you could use your dialplan to do whatever 
 you wanted it to. And for outbound you would send the calls out thru the 
 friends server via sip or iax.

 James Shigley
 Monroe Telephone Answering Service
 409-981-9213
 Infinity 5.51,UC 4.02.3803, Blink 3.0.104
 Ecreator:2.21, eResponse 1.1.7
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 Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 1:54 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: [asterisk-users] Really Silly Question From Total Newbie

 .

 My main question is: CAN I make call from that box to my cell phone
 using a soft-phone?   If so, how can I do that?   Also, can I use my
 cell phone to call into that box?   I dont know if I have to get a
 phone number, or do I NEED a phone number?   At the moment, I do not
 have any dollars to throw at this project.   Its purely for learning,
 proof of concept sort of thing for myself on my spare time in the
 evenings.  I would simply like to be able to call out and be able to
 call into that box.  Later on down the road maybe I will get into
 setting up an IVR using a database so I can call into that system from
 wherever and get information read back to me.  But, first things
 first  I'd like to know if I am heading down the wrong path here.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Really Silly Question From Total Newbie

2010-01-05 Thread UIT DEVELOPMENT
Steve-

Got an iPhone but no SIP client that I am aware of.  I just make
regular calls to other others/receive calls as usual.  Nothing fancy.
 I was hoping to create the fancy stuff in my home here.

As I got to reading I began to see things like provider, as you've
said here, and unfortunately if that is the only way then I will have
to stop here as I do not have funds to further this little experiment.
 I guess I was under the impression that with a lot of configuring and
reading and technical assistance, etc - I could create what I suppose
the VoIP provider is basically doing, trying to avoid yet another
monthly charge...

I checked the link you provided but no pricing info and I started to
search on VoIP Service and found this, amoung hundreds+ others,
http://www.whichvoip.com/Cheap-VoIP-Phone.htm  and see monthly charges
as I feared.As I said, I was hoping to create it all in-house (not
have to create an account anywhere or pay fees for fooling around with
a test setup, etc) but it is beginning to appear that I have not
researched enough.  Its much bigger an experiment than I had imagined!

Thanks!
-M

On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Steve Edwards asterisk@sedwards.com wrote:
 On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, UIT DEVELOPMENT wrote:

 CAN I make call from that box to my cell phone using a soft-phone?  If
 so, how can I do that?

 You need to get an account with a VOIP provider -- someone to accept your
 call via the Internet and place a call on the PSTN to call your cell
 number -- or any other number.

 Also, can I use my cell phone to call into that box?  I dont know if I
 have to get a phone number, or do I NEED a phone number?

 With the same account you can rent a PSTN number. When someone calls that
 number, they will call your server over the Internet.

 This is assuming you don't have a fancy-dancy smart phone with a SIP
 client.

 I use www.vitelity.net. I don't know their current pricing, but outbound
 calls are less than US$0.015 per minute and renting a PSTN number is
 around US$1.50 per month.

 --
 Thanks in advance,
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 Newline                                              Fax: +1-760-731-3000

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Re: [asterisk-users] Really Silly Question From Total Newbie

2010-01-05 Thread UIT DEVELOPMENT
Thank you Danny.  I shall investigate that.

On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Danny Nicholas da...@debsinc.com wrote:
 There are some free-trial and low-cost services out there.  Gizmo comes to
 mind but buyer beware;  look through this site for recommendations and
 warnings.

 -Original Message-
 From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
 [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of UIT
 DEVELOPMENT
 Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:48 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Really Silly Question From Total Newbie

 James,

 Thank you for the reply.  I do not have phone service in my home.
 I've been 100% cell since 2003.  I do have an old analog phone - big
 heavy thing...  If I connect it to the wall outlet there is nothing.
 I've tried every outlet in the house.  I didnt expect to find a tone
 as we've never connected phone service here.

 My assumption, however stupid it might be, is that I could set this up
 to make calls but as I began to read more and more I started reading
 about gateways and other costly services that I was hoping to avoid --
 for now at least.  This all began when my wife went food shopping
 around the holiddays and wanted to know if we had something or not
 already, and I wasnt home to confirm or not.   So I got to thinking,
 if she could call the VoIP box and get one of those press 1 for
 spices... press 2 for dry foods, press 3 for canned goods, press 4 for
 snacks, press 5 for drinks. and it would access a
 database that I already have set up with our groceries already in
 there.   Yea - geeky, I know.  :-)

 So that was the plan but first I needed to be able to get this thing
 set up.  I THINK you're saying I need to purchase another service to
 get myself to make calls.   I dont know anyone with a SIP server..
 I'd rather keep it all inside our home if possible.  I've got a lot of
 old hardware laying around and I do have MODEMs - internal and
 external 56k types.   Thanks for the hints.  I'll check into Magic
 Jack type stuff and see how it can help.

 -M


 On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:19 PM, James A. Shigley j...@answeringserv.com
 wrote:
 I can't help you two much with configuration of linux, but as to the call
 question. You will need some route for the server to be capable of
 sending/receiving calls. There is a couple of ways to do this cheaply.

 Buy a standard telephone modem (usb, pci, or serial). And plug into wall a
 jack. This will only allow you one call at a time. But if this is just a
 proof of concept that sounds like it will be plenty. Your number would be
 whatever the phone jack corresponds to.

 Integrate it with something like skype.

 Buy one of the products similar to a magic jack which will work with
 linux.

 Or if you know someone who has a sip server already running. And is
 amiable to letting you piggy back off of it. Your  phone number would point
 to that person's Server (be it one of the friends that the person is lending
 you, or a number that you have forwarded/ported at/to them) with it set to
 forward to your asterisk server. from there you could use your dialplan to
 do whatever you wanted it to. And for outbound you would send the calls out
 thru the friends server via sip or iax.

 James Shigley
 Monroe Telephone Answering Service
 409-981-9213
 Infinity 5.51,UC 4.02.3803, Blink 3.0.104
 Ecreator:2.21, eResponse 1.1.7
 Webportal,WebApps,

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 [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of UIT
 DEVELOPMENT
 Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 1:54 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: [asterisk-users] Really Silly Question From Total Newbie

 .

 My main question is: CAN I make call from that box to my cell phone
 using a soft-phone?   If so, how can I do that?   Also, can I use my
 cell phone to call into that box?   I dont know if I have to get a
 phone number, or do I NEED a phone number?   At the moment, I do not
 have any dollars to throw at this project.   Its purely for learning,
 proof of concept sort of thing for myself on my spare time in the
 evenings.  I would simply like to be able to call out and be able to
 call into that box.  Later on down the road maybe I will get into
 setting up an IVR using a database so I can call

Re: [asterisk-users] Really Silly Question From Total Newbie

2010-01-05 Thread UIT DEVELOPMENT
Gotcha on the MODEMs..  thanks.

On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Steve Edwards asterisk@sedwards.com wrote:
 On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, UIT DEVELOPMENT wrote:

 I've got a lot of old hardware laying around and I do have MODEMs -
 internal and external 56k types.

 None of your externals will be of any use and I suspect you will spend
 more time than it is worth trying to get any of your internals working. A
 buck-fifty a month and a penny a minute is pretty darn cheap. You will
 have to be consuming thousands of minutes per month before you will reach
 the break-even point of the cost of the land-line you need to plug into
 the modem.

 Thanks for the hints.  I'll check into Magic Jack type stuff and see how
 it can help.

 MagicJack does not work with Linux or Asterisk unless you plan on spending
 a bunch of time hacking (see google.com) to extract the SIP credentials
 out of your device.

 --
 Thanks in advance,
 -
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 Newline                                              Fax: +1-760-731-3000

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Re: [asterisk-users] Really Silly Question From Total Newbie

2010-01-05 Thread UIT DEVELOPMENT
 Really? A buck-fifty a month is going to kill the project? I live in San
 Diego, California where SDGE screws us for thirty cents a kilowatt-hour.

Yea.  Sort of.  I am recently unemployed.   Got plenty of time on my
hands now and I am trying to not incur any more costs than I need.


 How much is that dual Pentium space heater costing you a month :)

We're not paying much over $50 a month right now in the dead of
winter.  Nat Gas is a different storyWe're in Charlotte, NC -
Duke Power.   We're quite diligent about our electric use.  Right now
nothing is on except the PC I am sending from - not even that server.
I have the temp set to 68.  At night it goes to 63.  At the height of
summer with AC running nearly 24x7 we'll be suprised if its over $100.
   I guess nuclear out here is cheap, I dont know.   WATER is a
different story.  The water bill sucks.

Actually, I've had that thing on 24x7 in the past and the difference
in electric costs is not much.  That doesnt mean I would want to tack
on even more, another subscription that I really dont wish to have
right now...  Its just for fun.   If need be I have another Dell - a
500SC w/2GB RAM, 1 CPU at 1400mhz.Not sure if its capable.

Thanks for the advice and such..
-Mike



On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Steve Edwards asterisk@sedwards.com wrote:
 On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, UIT DEVELOPMENT wrote:

 As I got to reading I began to see things like provider, as you've
 said here, and unfortunately if that is the only way then I will have
 to stop here as I do not have funds to further this little experiment.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Really Silly Question From Total Newbie

2010-01-05 Thread UIT DEVELOPMENT
Jamie - I will check that out!  Thanks!   It is just for testing and
yes, the Asterisk box is connected to the Internet.  Cool.

-M

On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Jamie A. Stapleton
jstaple...@computer-business.com wrote:
 Could use the free http://www.sipgate.com/one for some testing (assuming that 
 Asterisk is connected to the Internet)

 -Original Message-
 From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com 
 [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of UIT DEVELOPMENT
 Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:54 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: [asterisk-users] Really Silly Question From Total Newbie

 Hello All -

 I've been poking around the past few weeks, trying to familiarize
 myself with all of this.  I am new to Linux, VoIP and Asterisk -- to
 be complete.   This is my first exposure to all of these technologies.

 I installed AsteriskNow on my old dual Pentium 833mhz Dell PowerEdge
 2400 and the install went well.   I can log in and poke around in
 Linux and I even configured the box to be recognized on my windows
 network.  However, is there a GUI that I can access to help me set
 things up?  I've gotten so far as what looks to me like DOS windows
 that I can change various things in the OS...

 I do not have any other hardware installed.  No cards and no VoIP
 phones.   I havent got to the point where I can make a test call or
 anything like that.  I dont know how to tell if Asterisk is up and
 running and how I can tweak it, etc.   I've been reading a lot of
 different things, and have become a bit confused. I think that in time
 it will come to me but I needed to stop and ask because I need to know
 if I am on the wrong path for what I'd like to do someday

 My main question is: CAN I make call from that box to my cell phone
 using a soft-phone?   If so, how can I do that?   Also, can I use my
 cell phone to call into that box?   I dont know if I have to get a
 phone number, or do I NEED a phone number?   At the moment, I do not
 have any dollars to throw at this project.   Its purely for learning,
 proof of concept sort of thing for myself on my spare time in the
 evenings.  I would simply like to be able to call out and be able to
 call into that box.  Later on down the road maybe I will get into
 setting up an IVR using a database so I can call into that system from
 wherever and get information read back to me.  But, first things
 first  I'd like to know if I am heading down the wrong path here.

 Sorry for what might seem as really silly questions, but I am not sure
 how to proceed.

 Thanks in advance for any insight that you folks can provide!

 Mike

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Re: [asterisk-users] Really Silly Question From Total Newbie

2010-01-05 Thread UIT DEVELOPMENT
Yep.  Its called unemployment.   Got the iPhone a little less than a
year ago.   Someone in India got my job in mid-November.   I got stuck
holding the 2-year contract.Oh well.   Such is life.

Look - I am going to retire from this thread.   Everyone's been a
great help and I know you and others dont know my situation and I am
not one to broadcast it - but when prodded.  there it is.
Yes, several bucks leads to more than several bucks and being
unemployed and living off the wife's income - its not an option.
Hopefully you'll not encounter sucky times, else you'd know..That
couple of bucks a month will never just be a couple of bucks..  :-)


On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Max McGraw max.mcg...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Tue, Jan 5, 2010,   UIT DEV   wrote:

 Steve-

 Got an iPhone  [...]

 As I got to reading I began to see things like provider, as you've
 said here, and unfortunately if that is the only way then I will have
 to stop here as I do not have funds to further this little experiment.
  I guess I was under the impression that with a lot of configuring and
 reading and technical assistance, etc - I could create what I suppose
 the VoIP provider is basically doing, trying to avoid yet another
 monthly charge.  [...]

  wow !  are you serious ?

  you can afford an iPhone but your entire project is
  dead in the water over a couple of bucks.

  I know there is a contradiction somewhere in there.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Really Silly Question From Total Newbie

2010-01-05 Thread UIT DEVELOPMENT
Thanks and no problem.  There was no way you would have known.   Thank
you for the info - it really is helpful and I have learned a LOT in
this thread.  This is a great list with a lot of helpful folks on it!

Mike

On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Max McGraw max.mcg...@gmail.com wrote:
  my apologies, I do understand.

  sorry.

 --

  On Tue, Jan 5, 2010,  UIT DEV  wrote:

 Yep.  Its called unemployment.   Got the iPhone a little less than a
 year ago.   Someone in India got my job in mid-November.   I got stuck
 holding the 2-year contract.    Oh well.   Such is life.

 Look - I am going to retire from this thread.   Everyone's been a
 great help and I know you and others dont know my situation and I am
 not one to broadcast it - but when prodded.  there it is.
 Yes, several bucks leads to more than several bucks and being
 unemployed and living off the wife's income - its not an option.
 Hopefully you'll not encounter sucky times, else you'd know..    That
 couple of bucks a month will never just be a couple of bucks..  :-)


 On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Max McGraw max.mcg...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Tue, Jan 5, 2010,   UIT DEV   wrote:

 Steve-

 Got an iPhone  [...]

 As I got to reading I began to see things like provider, as you've
 said here, and unfortunately if that is the only way then I will have
 to stop here as I do not have funds to further this little experiment.
  I guess I was under the impression that with a lot of configuring and
 reading and technical assistance, etc - I could create what I suppose
 the VoIP provider is basically doing, trying to avoid yet another
 monthly charge.  [...]

  wow !  are you serious ?

  you can afford an iPhone but your entire project is
  dead in the water over a couple of bucks.

  I know there is a contradiction somewhere in there.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Really Silly Question From Total Newbie

2010-01-05 Thread UIT DEVELOPMENT
No Android phone. But I will read up on this anyhow.  The softphone is
probably all that I need then, and of course a functioning Asterisk
setup.

On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 7:29 PM, meetmecall i...@meetmecall.nl wrote:
 Siax is a pretty good working sip and iax2 softphone for the iPhone.
 Easy to connect to your own Asterisk box

 If you have an Android phone (I have HTC Hero with Android 1.5)  ASip
 is a good choice. It is working and and calls using umts are working
 surprisingly well.

 Erik


 They are both available on the markets fot his phones.
 On 5 jan 2010, at 22:03, UIT DEVELOPMENT wrote:

 Steve-

 Got an iPhone but no SIP client that I am aware of.  I just make
 regular calls to other others/receive calls as usual.  Nothing fancy.
 I was hoping to create the fancy stuff in my home here.

 As I got to reading I began to see things like provider, as you've
 said here, and unfortunately if that is the only way then I will have
 to stop here as I do not have funds to further this little experiment.
 I guess I was under the impression that with a lot of configuring and
 reading and technical assistance, etc - I could create what I suppose
 the VoIP provider is basically doing, trying to avoid yet another
 monthly charge...

 I checked the link you provided but no pricing info and I started to
 search on VoIP Service and found this, amoung hundreds+ others,
 http://www.whichvoip.com/Cheap-VoIP-Phone.htm  and see monthly charges
 as I feared.    As I said, I was hoping to create it all in-house (not
 have to create an account anywhere or pay fees for fooling around with
 a test setup, etc) but it is beginning to appear that I have not
 researched enough.  Its much bigger an experiment than I had imagined!

 Thanks!
 -M

 On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Steve Edwards asterisk@sedwards.com
  wrote:
 On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, UIT DEVELOPMENT wrote:

 CAN I make call from that box to my cell phone using a soft-
 phone?  If
 so, how can I do that?

 You need to get an account with a VOIP provider -- someone to
 accept your
 call via the Internet and place a call on the PSTN to call your cell
 number -- or any other number.

 Also, can I use my cell phone to call into that box?  I dont know
 if I
 have to get a phone number, or do I NEED a phone number?

 With the same account you can rent a PSTN number. When someone
 calls that
 number, they will call your server over the Internet.

 This is assuming you don't have a fancy-dancy smart phone with a SIP
 client.

 I use www.vitelity.net. I don't know their current pricing, but
 outbound
 calls are less than US$0.015 per minute and renting a PSTN number is
 around US$1.50 per month.

 --
 Thanks in advance,
 -
 Steve Edwards       sedwa...@sedwards.com      Voice:
 +1-760-468-3867 PST
 Newline                                              Fax:
 +1-760-731-3000

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Re: [asterisk-users] Really Silly Question From Total Newbie

2010-01-05 Thread UIT DEVELOPMENT
Ah, good idea.  :-)   Are you saying that if I got a number that was
in my parents area code then they could be making a local call to my
Asterisk, which is physically a 1000+ miles from them?   Now that is
cool.

On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Ira i...@extrasensory.com wrote:
 At 12:48 PM 1/5/2010, you wrote:
So that was the plan but first I needed to be able to get this thing
set up.  I THINK you're saying I need to purchase another service to
get myself to make calls.   I dont know anyone with a SIP server..

 There are services that will give you free incoming minutes and a
 number. I just got one from www.ipcomms.net which seems to work. The
 number is in nowheresville, NY and I'm in Los Angeles, but cell
 phones have free long distance so I don't care.

 Ira


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Re: [asterisk-users] Really Silly Question From Total Newbie

2010-01-05 Thread UIT DEVELOPMENT
Thank you for these.  I will be reading up on these sites shortly.

On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 7:59 PM, hin lee hi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 You can practice Asterisk using free SIP phones.   This way you can call
 from extension to extension.

 SJ Phone
 http://www.sjlabs.com/sjp.html

 X Lite
 http://www.counterpath.com/x-lite.html

 
 From: UIT DEVELOPMENT uit...@gmail.com
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 2:04:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Really Silly Question From Total Newbie

 Yep.  Its called unemployment.  Got the iPhone a little less than a
 year ago.  Someone in India got my job in mid-November.  I got stuck
 holding the 2-year contract.    Oh well.  Such is life.

 Look - I am going to retire from this thread.  Everyone's been a
 great help and I know you and others dont know my situation and I am
 not one to broadcast it - but when prodded.  there it is.
 Yes, several bucks leads to more than several bucks and being
 unemployed and living off the wife's income - its not an option.
 Hopefully you'll not encounter sucky times, else you'd know..    That
 couple of bucks a month will never just be a couple of bucks..  :-)


 On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Max McGraw max.mcg...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Tue, Jan 5, 2010,   UIT DEV   wrote:

 Steve-

 Got an iPhone  [...]

 As I got to reading I began to see things like provider, as you've
 said here, and unfortunately if that is the only way then I will have
 to stop here as I do not have funds to further this little experiment.
  I guess I was under the impression that with a lot of configuring and
 reading and technical assistance, etc - I could create what I suppose
 the VoIP provider is basically doing, trying to avoid yet another
 monthly charge.  [...]

  wow !  are you serious ?

  you can afford an iPhone but your entire project is
  dead in the water over a couple of bucks.

  I know there is a contradiction somewhere in there.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Really Silly Question From Total Newbie

2010-01-05 Thread UIT DEVELOPMENT
Thank you Steve.   It is clear that I've only hit the tip of a massive
iceberg with this stuff.  Its all very cool, I've got the time so I
might as well make good use of it when I am not out on interviews and
such.   It is all such an interesting topic.

On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Steve Edwards asterisk@sedwards.com wrote:
 On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, UIT DEVELOPMENT wrote:

 Are you saying that if I got a number that was in my parents area code
 then they could be making a local call to my Asterisk, which is
 physically a 1000+ miles from them?  Now that is cool.

 See http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/DID+Service+Providers

 Setting up IAX has fewer potholes than SIP. If your Asterisk server
 registers with the provider you can skip all of the firewall and routing
 issues as well.

 You can have any number of PSTN numbers ring your Asterisk server. You can
 assign (in your dial plan) custom ring tones to each so you know if it is
 your friends  family number, your wife's business number, your I'm
 looking for a job number, etc.

 A lot of the free DIDs are in the middle of nowhere because of the funny
 FCC tariffs that say that the long distance carrier has to pay the rural
 telephone company above market rates for the call. That's how some of
 the cheesy, late-night cable TV chat services work.

 You can get DIDs in other countries as well. I have 5 in England so that
 when my wife is home she can call me or each of our kids with a local
 call.

 The numbers are registered to my Asterisk server in San Diego. When a call
 comes in, it dials (using Vitelity) the real cell numbers.

 --
 Thanks in advance,
 -
 Steve Edwards       sedwa...@sedwards.com      Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST
 Newline                                              Fax: +1-760-731-3000

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[asterisk-users] Newbie Looking For Login/Password

2009-12-25 Thread UIT DEVELOPMENT
Sorry for such a silly question but I am VERY new to Linux, Asterisk,
and so forth.  I just downloaded and burned the AsteriskNOW  ISO to CD
and installed it.  Everything went great.  I removed the CD and
rebooted and there is a prompt for me to login.

I hate to ask but after searching for a few hours, what on earth is
the initial login and the password?!? And, please, where is this
information so that I may read further about the installation and so
forth.

Thank you so much!

Mike

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Re: [asterisk-users] Newbie Looking For Login/Password

2009-12-25 Thread UIT DEVELOPMENT
John,  Thank you!   That was it.  I was trying admin, login...I
should have searched google more.  Thank you and thanks for the link -
I've got lots of reading ahead of me this evening!

Mike

On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 6:00 PM, John Novack
jnov...@stromberg-carlson.org wrote:


 UIT DEVELOPMENT wrote:
 Sorry for such a silly question but I am VERY new to Linux, Asterisk,
 and so forth.  I just downloaded and burned the AsteriskNOW  ISO to CD
 and installed it.  Everything went great.  I removed the CD and
 rebooted and there is a prompt for me to login.

 I hate to ask but after searching for a few hours, what on earth is
 the initial login and the password?!?
 Wasn't this supplied by you on install?

 I have no experience with this product, and two Google searches give
 somewhat different answers.
 If you log in through freepbx, then the answer is here:

 http://www.asterisk.org/AsteriskNOW-1.5-QuickStart

 Console Login as user root uses the password supplied by you when you
 did the initial install.

 Best of luck

 Find the PDF book Asterisk the Future of Telephony, free for downloading
 for help with configuration. Though it doesn't address your specific
 product, there are many good concepts there.

 John Novack

   And, please, where is this
 information so that I may read further about the installation and so
 forth.

 Thank you so much!

 Mike

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