Re: [Asterisk-Users] TDMoE and Badness in Kernel

2005-10-22 Thread asterisk groups
On Fri, 2005-10-21 at 09:26 -0700, trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote:
 On Fri, 2005-10-21 at 09:27 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I received some postings back, as I was trying to do the same thing.
  
  it' is a problem with Kernel 2.6... 2.4 works fine .. this is the summary
  I got from reading the posts before.
  
  I hope that helps... I dont have the ability to go DOWn in kernel to 2.4..
  
 
 the wiki suggested that it was a problem with softirq.c in the kernel
 and that this was fixed at some point.  What 2.6 version are you running
 that you have this problem?

I've seen this on just about everything 2.6.9 and above and up to
2.6.13.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] voice over atlantic

2005-09-09 Thread asterisk groups
Hi David,

I just looked at my iax.conf on one of my boxes in Argentina and
actually there are no jitterbuffer settings indicated so I'm assuming it
is using Asterisk defaults.

We are experimenting with G.729 on these IAX trunks also and I just
realized I have no accurate means of measuring bandwidth consumption
vis-a-vis GSM/G.729. I think I'll pose that question to the group in
another message to see what recommendations and best practices are out
there. Or, do some research.

Best of luck. 

On Thu, 2005-09-08 at 17:49 -0400, David Hajek wrote:
 Nice. Thanks.
 
 What Asterisk version? Can you lookup jitterbuffer settings?
 
 Thanks a lot.


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] voice over atlantic

2005-09-09 Thread asterisk groups
Forgot the version:
Asterisk 1.0.7 

On Thu, 2005-09-08 at 17:49 -0400, David Hajek wrote:
 Nice. Thanks.
 
 What Asterisk version? Can you lookup jitterbuffer settings?
 
 Thanks a lot.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] MAX PRI for single server (was: Not enough lines available for Asterisk implemetation)

2005-09-08 Thread asterisk groups
On Thu, 2005-09-08 at 16:26 +0200, Simone Cittadini wrote:

 Is it true ?
 My boss is just asking me if it is possible to stuck 4* TE411P in a 
 single server, for a total of 480 lines, someone can assure me it is 
 possible/impossible (manageable/unmanageable) from real-life experience ?
 

You might want to offload some of that PRI termination to an external
device such as a Cisco AS53XX, Lucent MAX TNT, Audio Codes or Redfone
fonebridge device and then trunk it to your Asterisk servers. But
putting more then 2 quad cards in a single server is not safe. 1 per
server would be more acceptable.

This link might be helpful to you:
http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+at+large

Good luck.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] voice over atlantic

2005-09-08 Thread asterisk groups
David,
I have IAX trunks running between the US and S. America using the GSM
codec and jitterbuffer=yes and the quality seems very good to my ears.
Don't have the details of the jitterbuffer parameters right now but
hopefully this will give you some useful feedback.

Good luck.


On Thu, 2005-09-08 at 16:49 -0400, David Hajek wrote:
 Hi-
 
 I'm using IAX between two boxes, where one box is located in US and the
 second in Europe. I'm trying to achieve the best voice quality and
 mainly reliability between these boxes and looking for hints and
 experience of others. 
 
 Facts:
 - Asterisk 1.0.7
 - RTT varies from 130-170 ms, depends on time and actual Internet
 throughput
 
 Questions:
 - What is the sugested codec for such setup? Now I'm using ULAW, but
 realizing it may not be the best choice. Sometimes I can hear broken
 audio. Maybe speex is better choice? 
 - Jitter buffer, yes/no? What are the suggested values. Currently I'm
 using these values:
 jitterbuffer=yes
 dropcount=10
 maxjitterbuffer=500
 maxexcessbuffer=300
 minexcessbuffer=20
 jittershrinkrate=2 
 - Trunking? Is it reliable enough?
 


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: equipment configuration help

2005-09-02 Thread asterisk groups
That is correct. Normally the layer 3 switches include advanced features
such as QoS but they may be available on simpler layer 2 switches.

I think the key words to look for are 'Managed, QoS (802.1p) with
priority queues, VLAN, (802.1q)'...maybe even PoE if you go with some
SIP phones in the future that can be powered by Power Over Ethernet.
Something else to keep in mind.

best of luck.

On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 22:03 -0500, Erick Perez wrote:
 Why an L3? just for the QoS part?
 I checked the alliedtelesyn 8624T at $1000.00
 http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=772793
 
 but i also looked at the 8550T which has 48 port 10-100 but L2
 http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=773964RecommendedForEDC=772793RecoType=upsell
 at 900.00
 
 is the QoS different? sorry for the question but i keep reading that
 asterisk needs qos to function better.
 
 Thanks, 
 
 On 9/1/05, asterisk groups [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Erick- Can't say if they will or not. In theory they should respect all
  outgoing traffic unless being filtered by another device such as your
  PIX. You might want to check with the ADSL router manufacturer just to
  be safe.
  
  
  On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 09:25 -0500, Erick Perez wrote:
   Do i have to change the adsl routers? or just do QoS with the Layer 3 
   switches?
   Will my ADSL router respect the QoS setting when sending the packet to
   the Internet?
  
  
   On 9/1/05, asterisk groups [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Erick,
   
After reviewing your original message a little closer it occurs to me
that you may be able to trunk Asterisk---Meridian with 2 Digium TDM400
cards. These are Quad FXS or FXO cards that could receive the lines from
your 8 analog line card.
   
You'll still need an E1 card (Digium or Sangoma) to terminate your PRI
line, but maybe with those TDM400 cards you can avoid the added cost of
a channel bank.
   
Regarding your WAN and branch offices;
   
1. I've seen comments that tunneling VoIP traffic through IPSec can add
overhead/delay that could impact voice quality. Something to keep in
mind. I have trunked Asterisk boxes in MIA,BUE,SAO, etc. but trunk with
IAX over the Internet not tunneled or encrypted and performance is fine.
   
2. In your two locations with 15  50 users you should consider
installing Asterisk boxes in those locations and trunking them together
with IAX over the Internet. Perhaps go ahead and do the same thing with
the smaller office. You can justify a small Asterisk implementation in
an office with 5 phones.
   
3. For QoS look for L3 managed switches that can do QoS and/or bandwidth
allocation. Cisco, Dell, Nortel, HP can all do this, maybe even more
economical D-Links. Put these behind your PIX. It is also recommended to
do separate VLANs for any SIP hard phones you deploy. This adds another
layer of security and reliability.
   
Hope this helps.
   
   
   
   
   
On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 21:43 -0500, Erick Perez wrote:
 -M, The norstar has no E1 card, i will have to ask the nortel provider
 for the cost of it and configuration prices. I might end up paying the
 same as the channel bank.
 I was also thinking of using a Citel SIP-N-NORSTAR converter but its
 priced at around 3k. Too expensive because its only 24 ports and i
 have 32 nortel phones.

 According to this wiki
 http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+Nortel
 One problem with this approach is that in a Norstar system, it isn't
 easy to forward an extension to an outside line, which means Norstar
 phone users will have to remember to do something different when they
 want to call a user who has been switched to an IP phone for example.

 I guess that can be sorted out.

  Any manuals out there for configuration like
 [Telephone Company] ---E1--- [Asterisk with sangoma s102] ---T1
 channel bank--- [Norstar]? (only the asterisk-t1-norstar part)

 Now another section, networking.
 The 3 offices are linked via VPNs like this
 Internet---ADSL Router-Cisco PIX  Firewall---LAN
 doin ip tunneling will solve all communication problems internally,
 but what about QoS and SIP phones being taken to the public internet?
 one office has 5 users, the other 15, the other 50. ADSL Router
 recommendiations?
 and as for the phones being taken to the outside? what kind of
 configuration do i use? IAX is not an option.



 On 8/31/05, asterisk groups [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Erick,
 
  Consider trunking your Meridian to the Asterisk via an E1 card on 
  the
  Nortel. That way you'll be able to maintain your proprietary Nortel
  phones and won't need a channel bank.
 
  Your implementation would be something like this:
 
  Cable  Worthless E1(or whoever)--Asterisk(Sangoma port 1)-(Sangoma
  port 2

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: equipment configuration help

2005-09-01 Thread asterisk groups
Erick,

After reviewing your original message a little closer it occurs to me
that you may be able to trunk Asterisk---Meridian with 2 Digium TDM400
cards. These are Quad FXS or FXO cards that could receive the lines from
your 8 analog line card.

You'll still need an E1 card (Digium or Sangoma) to terminate your PRI
line, but maybe with those TDM400 cards you can avoid the added cost of
a channel bank.

Regarding your WAN and branch offices; 

1. I've seen comments that tunneling VoIP traffic through IPSec can add
overhead/delay that could impact voice quality. Something to keep in
mind. I have trunked Asterisk boxes in MIA,BUE,SAO, etc. but trunk with
IAX over the Internet not tunneled or encrypted and performance is fine.

2. In your two locations with 15  50 users you should consider
installing Asterisk boxes in those locations and trunking them together
with IAX over the Internet. Perhaps go ahead and do the same thing with
the smaller office. You can justify a small Asterisk implementation in
an office with 5 phones.

3. For QoS look for L3 managed switches that can do QoS and/or bandwidth
allocation. Cisco, Dell, Nortel, HP can all do this, maybe even more
economical D-Links. Put these behind your PIX. It is also recommended to
do separate VLANs for any SIP hard phones you deploy. This adds another
layer of security and reliability.

Hope this helps.

 



On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 21:43 -0500, Erick Perez wrote:
 -M, The norstar has no E1 card, i will have to ask the nortel provider
 for the cost of it and configuration prices. I might end up paying the
 same as the channel bank.
 I was also thinking of using a Citel SIP-N-NORSTAR converter but its
 priced at around 3k. Too expensive because its only 24 ports and i
 have 32 nortel phones.
 
 According to this wiki 
 http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+Nortel
 One problem with this approach is that in a Norstar system, it isn't
 easy to forward an extension to an outside line, which means Norstar
 phone users will have to remember to do something different when they
 want to call a user who has been switched to an IP phone for example.
 
 I guess that can be sorted out.
 
  Any manuals out there for configuration like
 [Telephone Company] ---E1--- [Asterisk with sangoma s102] ---T1
 channel bank--- [Norstar]? (only the asterisk-t1-norstar part)
 
 Now another section, networking.
 The 3 offices are linked via VPNs like this
 Internet---ADSL Router-Cisco PIX  Firewall---LAN
 doin ip tunneling will solve all communication problems internally,
 but what about QoS and SIP phones being taken to the public internet?
 one office has 5 users, the other 15, the other 50. ADSL Router
 recommendiations?
 and as for the phones being taken to the outside? what kind of
 configuration do i use? IAX is not an option.
 
 
 
 On 8/31/05, asterisk groups [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Erick,
  
  Consider trunking your Meridian to the Asterisk via an E1 card on the
  Nortel. That way you'll be able to maintain your proprietary Nortel
  phones and won't need a channel bank.
  
  Your implementation would be something like this:
  
  Cable  Worthless E1(or whoever)--Asterisk(Sangoma port 1)-(Sangoma
  port 2)--Meridian---Nortel Digital phones
  
  suerte,
  -M
  
  On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 18:37 -0500, Erick Perez wrote:
   Update to myself:
   So in terms of equipment I will need:
   Sangoma a102 E1 (two E1 ports) plus a E1 crossover cable
   a channel bank with 8 FXS ports
  
   sounds expensive for just 8 analog ports. Any ideas?
  
  
  
   On 8/31/05, Erick Perez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, Im about to start shopping parts for an * box. We are migrating
from a Meridian Norstar+ Modular ICS
   
Here are the customer details:
a) Meridian with 8 analog lines card and 32 nortel digital phones and
voicemail. We will interface * to the meridian using the analog ports
so we dont loose the phones.
   
b)half E1. The * box will get half E1 (with DID) for connecting to the
local telco.
We need two recepcionist/operator phones (sip or whatever)
   
So in terms of equipment I will need:
Sangoma a101 E1/PCI
an 8 port analog card
a channel bank?
   
Can someone tell me if i really have to buy an analog card? or maybe
link me to a web site that explains (with images) how a t1/e1 is
managed?
   
Thanks, and I apologize for this completely newbie question. I've
never seen images or instructions on how to handle this. Im not even
sure im using the right terms in Google.
   
--
   
---
Erick Perez
Linux User 376588
http://counter.li.org/  (Get counted!!!)
Panama, Republic of Panama
   
  
  
  
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: equipment configuration help

2005-09-01 Thread asterisk groups
Erick- Can't say if they will or not. In theory they should respect all
outgoing traffic unless being filtered by another device such as your
PIX. You might want to check with the ADSL router manufacturer just to
be safe.


On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 09:25 -0500, Erick Perez wrote:
 Do i have to change the adsl routers? or just do QoS with the Layer 3 
 switches?
 Will my ADSL router respect the QoS setting when sending the packet to
 the Internet?
 
 
 On 9/1/05, asterisk groups [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Erick,
  
  After reviewing your original message a little closer it occurs to me
  that you may be able to trunk Asterisk---Meridian with 2 Digium TDM400
  cards. These are Quad FXS or FXO cards that could receive the lines from
  your 8 analog line card.
  
  You'll still need an E1 card (Digium or Sangoma) to terminate your PRI
  line, but maybe with those TDM400 cards you can avoid the added cost of
  a channel bank.
  
  Regarding your WAN and branch offices;
  
  1. I've seen comments that tunneling VoIP traffic through IPSec can add
  overhead/delay that could impact voice quality. Something to keep in
  mind. I have trunked Asterisk boxes in MIA,BUE,SAO, etc. but trunk with
  IAX over the Internet not tunneled or encrypted and performance is fine.
  
  2. In your two locations with 15  50 users you should consider
  installing Asterisk boxes in those locations and trunking them together
  with IAX over the Internet. Perhaps go ahead and do the same thing with
  the smaller office. You can justify a small Asterisk implementation in
  an office with 5 phones.
  
  3. For QoS look for L3 managed switches that can do QoS and/or bandwidth
  allocation. Cisco, Dell, Nortel, HP can all do this, maybe even more
  economical D-Links. Put these behind your PIX. It is also recommended to
  do separate VLANs for any SIP hard phones you deploy. This adds another
  layer of security and reliability.
  
  Hope this helps.
  
  
  
  
  
  On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 21:43 -0500, Erick Perez wrote:
   -M, The norstar has no E1 card, i will have to ask the nortel provider
   for the cost of it and configuration prices. I might end up paying the
   same as the channel bank.
   I was also thinking of using a Citel SIP-N-NORSTAR converter but its
   priced at around 3k. Too expensive because its only 24 ports and i
   have 32 nortel phones.
  
   According to this wiki
   http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+Nortel
   One problem with this approach is that in a Norstar system, it isn't
   easy to forward an extension to an outside line, which means Norstar
   phone users will have to remember to do something different when they
   want to call a user who has been switched to an IP phone for example.
  
   I guess that can be sorted out.
  
Any manuals out there for configuration like
   [Telephone Company] ---E1--- [Asterisk with sangoma s102] ---T1
   channel bank--- [Norstar]? (only the asterisk-t1-norstar part)
  
   Now another section, networking.
   The 3 offices are linked via VPNs like this
   Internet---ADSL Router-Cisco PIX  Firewall---LAN
   doin ip tunneling will solve all communication problems internally,
   but what about QoS and SIP phones being taken to the public internet?
   one office has 5 users, the other 15, the other 50. ADSL Router
   recommendiations?
   and as for the phones being taken to the outside? what kind of
   configuration do i use? IAX is not an option.
  
  
  
   On 8/31/05, asterisk groups [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Erick,
   
Consider trunking your Meridian to the Asterisk via an E1 card on the
Nortel. That way you'll be able to maintain your proprietary Nortel
phones and won't need a channel bank.
   
Your implementation would be something like this:
   
Cable  Worthless E1(or whoever)--Asterisk(Sangoma port 1)-(Sangoma
port 2)--Meridian---Nortel Digital phones
   
suerte,
-M
   
On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 18:37 -0500, Erick Perez wrote:
 Update to myself:
 So in terms of equipment I will need:
 Sangoma a102 E1 (two E1 ports) plus a E1 crossover cable
 a channel bank with 8 FXS ports

 sounds expensive for just 8 analog ports. Any ideas?



 On 8/31/05, Erick Perez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi, Im about to start shopping parts for an * box. We are migrating
  from a Meridian Norstar+ Modular ICS
 
  Here are the customer details:
  a) Meridian with 8 analog lines card and 32 nortel digital phones 
  and
  voicemail. We will interface * to the meridian using the analog 
  ports
  so we dont loose the phones.
 
  b)half E1. The * box will get half E1 (with DID) for connecting to 
  the
  local telco.
  We need two recepcionist/operator phones (sip or whatever)
 
  So in terms of equipment I will need:
  Sangoma a101 E1/PCI
  an 8 port analog card
  a channel bank?
 
  Can someone tell me if i really have

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: equipment configuration help

2005-08-31 Thread asterisk groups
Erick,

Consider trunking your Meridian to the Asterisk via an E1 card on the
Nortel. That way you'll be able to maintain your proprietary Nortel
phones and won't need a channel bank.

Your implementation would be something like this:

Cable  Worthless E1(or whoever)--Asterisk(Sangoma port 1)-(Sangoma
port 2)--Meridian---Nortel Digital phones

suerte,
-M

On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 18:37 -0500, Erick Perez wrote:
 Update to myself:
 So in terms of equipment I will need:
 Sangoma a102 E1 (two E1 ports) plus a E1 crossover cable
 a channel bank with 8 FXS ports
 
 sounds expensive for just 8 analog ports. Any ideas?
 
 
 
 On 8/31/05, Erick Perez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi, Im about to start shopping parts for an * box. We are migrating
  from a Meridian Norstar+ Modular ICS
  
  Here are the customer details:
  a) Meridian with 8 analog lines card and 32 nortel digital phones and
  voicemail. We will interface * to the meridian using the analog ports
  so we dont loose the phones.
  
  b)half E1. The * box will get half E1 (with DID) for connecting to the
  local telco.
  We need two recepcionist/operator phones (sip or whatever)
  
  So in terms of equipment I will need:
  Sangoma a101 E1/PCI
  an 8 port analog card
  a channel bank?
  
  Can someone tell me if i really have to buy an analog card? or maybe
  link me to a web site that explains (with images) how a t1/e1 is
  managed?
  
  Thanks, and I apologize for this completely newbie question. I've
  never seen images or instructions on how to handle this. Im not even
  sure im using the right terms in Google.
  
  --
  
  ---
  Erick Perez
  Linux User 376588
  http://counter.li.org/  (Get counted!!!)
  Panama, Republic of Panama
  
 
 

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