Re: [asterisk-users] [Zaptel] Why no port to Windos?
Doug wrote: At 19:55 12/13/2007, Vincent wrote: Hello I was wondering why there doesn't seem to a Windows version of Zaptel, making the Digium and its clones unavailable for a Windows PBX. Is the Zaptel/Zapata combo too *nix-centric? Thanks. Windows is a half-baked, dying OS that in essence is a 32 bit extension and graphical shell, for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system, originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that can't stand 1 bit of competition. Oh Boy! that is very .sig worthy! Consider it stolen! Do you really want to reboot your telephone system 3 times a day? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] [Zaptel] Why no port to Windos?
Vincent wrote: On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:21:50 -0600, Tilghman Lesher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is likely to be a very strenuous job to port the framework and all of the drivers. Too bad, because there doesn't seem to be any PCI card for FXO/FXS available for Windows. Erm, there just might be, take a look at this...: http://www.sangoma.com/pdf_datasheets/a200-specs.pdf ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Dry Copper Pair
Jon Pounder wrote: On 5/11/07, Alex Balashov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2007, C F said something to this effect: Not according to Verizon (in my area anyhow), We tried it and it didn't work. The verizon technician insisted it wasn't real PTP copper and therefore anything but analog voice might/should not work. What is PTP copper? Unless it's an issue of gauge. But as far as I know, it's not. All the standard copper used for POTS can be used for a T1 from a physical point of view, other aspects of conditioning/load coils/etc/etc not withstanding. You are right, but that was not what I meant, in order for one to be able to provision their own T1 over a pair of copper, the line has to allow all traffic over all frequencies pass thru it. Which these lines do not, since they are simply not just one long copper pair simply cross connected. that's what dry copper is supposed to be, just a cross connect between 2 pairs out of the CO. ie not even battery, line test equipment, or anything else hanging off it at the CO. any restriction should be purely a function of the inductance/capacitance of the wire and the connections and nothing else - anything else and you didn't get dry copper in the first place. just out of curiousity - anyone ever hijack pairs and get away with it ? (do your own cross connects on the street and utilize some crossconnect all within one branch of F1 cable out of the CO ?) I've been tempted in the past, and know that at least around here I would probably get away with it for quite some time before anyone actually cared enough to investigate. Jon: Is Thorold rural? You wouldn't get away with this for ten minutes in an urban CO. I don't fancy spending the night in jail. -Stephen- In some places a night in jail is getting off real easy. Try 3 months in jail and then $multi thousands as a fine, and if you were acting on behalf of a corporation, then $millions as a fine. It is not misdemeanor issues, it is criminal. T ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Dry Copper Pair
Quoting Stephen Bosch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jon Pounder wrote: On 5/11/07, Alex Balashov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2007, C F said something to this effect: Not according to Verizon (in my area anyhow), We tried it and it didn't work. The verizon technician insisted it wasn't real PTP copper and therefore anything but analog voice might/should not work. What is PTP copper? Unless it's an issue of gauge. But as far as I know, it's not. All the standard copper used for POTS can be used for a T1 from a physical point of view, other aspects of conditioning/load coils/etc/etc not withstanding. You are right, but that was not what I meant, in order for one to be able to provision their own T1 over a pair of copper, the line has to allow all traffic over all frequencies pass thru it. Which these lines do not, since they are simply not just one long copper pair simply cross connected. that's what dry copper is supposed to be, just a cross connect between 2 pairs out of the CO. ie not even battery, line test equipment, or anything else hanging off it at the CO. any restriction should be purely a function of the inductance/capacitance of the wire and the connections and nothing else - anything else and you didn't get dry copper in the first place. just out of curiousity - anyone ever hijack pairs and get away with it ? (do your own cross connects on the street and utilize some crossconnect all within one branch of F1 cable out of the CO ?) I've been tempted in the past, and know that at least around here I would probably get away with it for quite some time before anyone actually cared enough to investigate. Jon: Is Thorold rural? You wouldn't get away with this for ten minutes in an urban CO. I don't fancy spending the night in jail. it not a big city, but its not the middle of nowhere either. The local CO here is actually the last hop on the fibre trunks from Canada to the US for the Toronto area, fence around it has the gate open 24x7, so its not just the local loops that they don't really care enough to protect. I have seen techs find things they didn't agree with or think should be somewhere and just shrug their shoulders - if its not a reported problem they don't want to be the one that touches something and breaks it if its really supposed to be there. A lot of the techs are subcontracted by the job, they don't get paid to make improvements, they get paid to do installations and go on repair calls, so if its not on their work order they just don't care. Here is an example, I order lines in batches of 1 or 2 at a time to my location, every time an installer comes they put another 2pr aerial cable from my pole to the pole across the street. I have plenty of underground capacity I put in myself out to my pole. Everytime I say, hey why not just consolidate things in a properly sized aerial cable or just bury it ? No, can't do that, all I can do is install yet another cable (there are about 10 up there now, and it looks like hell). I have even got the response, well if you want to clean it up you could just do it and no one would care. If that's not a direct invitation to work on the telco outside plant yourself - what is ? Uh-huh, so... say, leaving my car unlocked while it is sitting in my driveway is directly invitation to someone to take it? The exchange and all their feeder sites, rims, pillars, etc... are the property of the telco, at the very least working on them without explicit authority is a breech of the tresspass laws and it goes up from there. You will probably find that they (the telco) will take the point of view that (and you can confirm this with any lawyer you like) their failure to prosecute every instance of tresspass does not imply permission to enter. In todays socio/political climate, telco infrastructure is seen as foundational, and an essential service that is vital in times of emergency. Any unauthorised modification can present an unacceptable risk exposure to the telco, the emergency services, and to the public in general. This said, the telcos may not be providing the best security (and in some cases their security is non-existent) however this does not mean that an unauthorised person is entitle to make changes, or even enter the site. Any argument to the contrary is somewhat shortsighted, dont you think? Or is your failure to lock your front door, a direct invitation to the next person that walks down the sidewalk to help themselves to the contents of your fridge? It could be argued that some of this thread constitutes a solicitation to commit a crime, or perhaps coersion of the same. In the US, it wouldnt surprise me if tresspass into a telco pillar would get the full force of homeland security down on you, and as you are probably aware, at the point that the word terrorism is used, it is possible for what we commonly understand as the burden of proof to be reversed. My advise:
Re: Now way OT: [asterisk-users] Need some help with a very simple Queestion..
Stephen Bosch wrote: Is Marmite also available in Ontario, or only Out West? As far as I know, Marmite is available all across this land, from sea to sea to sea. Three cheers for Marmite. IMO most Americans have never even *heard* of Marmite, much less tasted it. And it's quite a hoot to watch someone ingest it for the first time. Always causes a surprised look. Someone should write a book about it--or maybe someone already has :-) b. Yep, chocolate/hazelnut it aint. FWIW, Vegemite (the better, Auzzie variety of the same brew) is now illegal in the US. Something to do with its containing folate and that being a restricted chemical that needs FDA approval, etcetera... So travelling Aussies, can't even bring their own little jar with them... sigh Hilarious thing is that Vegemite whilst invented by an Aussie, is owned and produced by the Kraft Company (US Company). So its ok for a US company to make an illegal product, Make money from an illegal product, and export an illegal product, but some one that buys that product for their own use, cannot even bring a 4oz jar of it with them on holiday. talk about a separation between church^Wlogic and state^Wpractice. go figure T ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
