OT: Re: [Asterisk-Users] [RANT] Today's possible problems with Broadvoice????
On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 02:25:03PM -0500, Brian Capouch wrote: Despite using spam control, I still have to hit delete fifty times or so a day to get rid of those disgusting sex ads. Why is it any harder to do the same with messages that, upon swift perusal, aren't of interest? That's it! Train a spam filter to block those messages. For everyone too troubled to hit the delete key, they can just train a spam filter to block Broadvoice complaints. Better yet, maybe if they just dropped in all of the clueless questions they don't like, it would automatically filter it out for them! Mm. I'm should patent that. Something like Patent for Using Spam Filters to Block Stuff That Isn't Spam or something equally obvious. I like it. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: OT: Re: [Asterisk-Users] [RANT] Today's possible problems with Broadvoice????
On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 09:00, Jayson Vantuyl wrote: For everyone too troubled to hit the delete key, they can just train a spam filter to block Broadvoice complaints. Better yet, maybe if they just dropped in all of the clueless questions they don't like, it would automatically filter it out for them! Mm. I'm should patent that. Something like Patent for Using Spam Filters to Block Stuff That Isn't Spam or something equally obvious. I like it. I think I have documented Prior Art on that. Your message nearly tripped the spam filter and this one will probably do so. In fact this mailing list is the reason I noticed my spam filter classified annoying questions as spam. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] [RANT] Today's possible problems with Broadvoice????
On Mon, 2004-08-02 at 20:32, Bartosz Wegrzyn wrote: I joined this group 2 weeks ago, because I was having problems with my asterisk box and broadvoice. I found many discussions regarding similar issue. I belive that this is the group where we can share our problems and help each other. We know that broadvoice does not suport the asterisk, and the only person who can help is James Jones and you asterisk people. I cannot understand why you are so angry about my post. I don't know what kind of computer GURU you are, but I am a regular networking person who want to have the things up and running. Maybe, the way I presented the facts was not that professional as you do, but this is how I do it. Maybe you should just look at the post and try to help. It isn't so much how you have brought this question. It is just that less than 1% of the subscribers of this list actually have even the slightest of interest in broadvoice. When the traffic for such a small percentage of the list gets to be 25-40% of the traffic, most of us start getting edgy and wishing the traffic was somewhere else. No offense, Steve, but the exact same words apply to h323, odbc, isdn cards, Nufone, etc, for a lot of the rest of us. However, historically we've simply been deleting posts of no interest (to many, but certainly not all). After many many years of using various Internet resources, it is simply amazing how many people on this _user_ list try to re-define the purpose of the list (to their liking), exactly how people should post (to make _their_ reader more convenient for them), etc. What has been rather interesting is the broadvoice change seems to indicate there is a * sip dns issue that has not yet been sufficiently documented to enter a bug report. (Example: given a type=user and type=peer sip context, broadvoice incoming calls actually use the type=peer context. What?) So, for those that don't have any interest in the broadvoice interface topic, find your delete key. Its not all that hard, really. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] [RANT] Today's possible problems with Broadvoice????
Rich Adamson wrote: So, for those that don't have any interest in the broadvoice interface topic, find your delete key. Its not all that hard, really. Every night when I go to bed I say my prayers. And in those prayers I include a request that those on the list who are so quick to snap at people for their cluelessness will choose instead to just delete the mail and go on. What does it cost to hit delete, and isn't it possible that a) the clueless question may be picked up by someone as a community service--which happens pretty often, or b) the niche question will actually be of intense interest to a small subset of our community, such as the Broadvoice Pioneers. Despite using spam control, I still have to hit delete fifty times or so a day to get rid of those disgusting sex ads. Why is it any harder to do the same with messages that, upon swift perusal, aren't of interest? We are asterisk's face to the new user community. Imparting clue is part of our mission, but IMO acting nice to newbies is a more important part. B. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] [RANT] Today's possible problems with Broadvoice????
- Original Message - From: Andrew Kohlsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Today's possible problems with Broadvoice On Monday 02 August 2004 16:20, Brian McManus wrote: For the record, That wasn't the intent of my post, he did ask if there were alternatives, and I mentioned there are alternatives. It was the intent of my post; There have been what, 50 messages about Broadvoice being down on this list? It's entirely offtopic. Take it to -biz, this list is busy enough without constant status reports about one particular VOIP provider, especially one which doesn't seem to have it shit together and (unless I am mistaken) does nothing to support Asterisk. -A. I'm sorry, I have to say something here, it's been driving me crazy... Grant you, e-mails that are sent to the list to bitch and moan about BV being down and I'm gonna take my business somewhere else... those don't belong in this list, those don't even belong in -biz... I'd be surprised if ANYONE would read those... But the e-mails for help or to ask if anyone else is having trouble I believe are warranted until we get a separate list JUST FOR PROVIDERS... I would remind you that bitching and moaning about people posting to the list about their providers are equally as useless and even more annoying especially since you don't use a separate thread for your bitching, you add it to a support thread... Several people in this list, including myself, have tried to take our time to help those of us who use BV to get it working. If you don't want to help and just want to bitch about people posting suggestions and/or help you know what you can do with your e-mails... I think it's great that while BV doesn't support asterisk directly they do their damndest to make it work for those of us who use it, especially James because they DON'T HAVE TO... This list is about helping people who use * IN WHATEVER CONFIGURATION THEY USE IT IN to get it to work and to want to use it as their PBX solution whatever that may be... I'm sorry if this post upsets you, I have probably alienated myself from the list now and will never get help again, but I am so frustrated with people putting people down and bitching at others for what they post. ENOUGH ALREADY! -Chris ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] [RANT] Today's possible problems with Broadvoice????
On Monday 02 August 2004 16:59, Chris Shaw wrote: Grant you, e-mails that are sent to the list to bitch and moan about BV being down and I'm gonna take my business somewhere else... those don't belong in this list, those don't even belong in -biz... I'd be surprised if ANYONE would read those... But the e-mails for help or to ask if anyone else is having trouble I believe are warranted until we get a separate list JUST FOR PROVIDERS... Emails asking for help I have *zero* problem with This broadvoice thread has been going on FAR beyond that. You know it and I know it. This isn't a Hey I'm having some issues, is anyone else? anymore, it's a 2:30 I can't get on, what changed oh, 2:37, things are okay again oh wait, 2:40 what's going on? That's not asking ofr help. He knows his system hasn't changed. He knows that BV is up and down like a bride's nightie. The thread is no longer about help. It's a bitch and moan and status report on BV. I would remind you that bitching and moaning about people posting to the list about their providers are equally as useless and even more annoying especially since you don't use a separate thread for your bitching, you add it to a support thread... Agreed, which is why I waited so long to comment on it in the first place. Several people in this list, including myself, have tried to take our time to help those of us who use BV to get it working. If you don't want to help and just want to bitch about people posting suggestions and/or help you know what you can do with your e-mails... See above. This isn't about getting * to work with BV now, it's a Hey BV is down again, just so you know thread. I think it's great that while BV doesn't support asterisk directly they do their damndest to make it work for those of us who use it, especially James because they DON'T HAVE TO... No they don't have to, but they lose out on a wider customer base. Don't think for an instant that it's not to better their business. There's absolutely nothing wrong with doing so, either. The more VOIP providers that are out there and helping getting things work with Asterisk, the better. It's better for everyone. This list is about helping people who use * IN WHATEVER CONFIGURATION THEY USE IT IN to get it to work and to want to use it as their PBX solution whatever that may be... See above, it's not the help getting * and BV to talk I'm complaining about. I'm sorry if this post upsets you, I have probably alienated myself from the list now and will never get help again, but I am so frustrated with people putting people down and bitching at others for what they post. I disagree -- I have never refused to help someone on the list because of a prior disagreement and doubt there are many people here who do. Hell Jeremy McNamara and I don't see eye-to-eye at all on RADIUS support for *, but I've never felt like he's held that against me in any of my questions. Again I'm not putting anyone down. I'm asking that they use their brain a little before instantly posting to -users about any old half-baked thought that pops into their heads. This goes for the newbies too who don't bother reading any documentation or even hitting Google before firing up their MUA to blow their question to however many thousands of people read this list. Let me re-iterate again -- Asking for help getting * and BV to talk is good, it's healthy and it makes business better for BV and provides another connection point for *. This is good. Spamming the list with what seems like endless status reports about BV, *especially* once the fucking connection has been set up and has been shown to work is *not* good. It's even WORSE when these goddamned reports are coming in several times a day! I understand and even agree with your point, to a point -- can you even see my side of the argument? -A. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] [RANT] Today's possible problems with Broadvoice????
- Original Message - From: Andrew Kohlsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] [RANT] Today's possible problems with Broadvoice On Monday 02 August 2004 16:59, Chris Shaw wrote: Grant you, e-mails that are sent to the list to bitch and moan about BV being down and I'm gonna take my business somewhere else... those don't belong in this list, those don't even belong in -biz... I'd be surprised if ANYONE would read those... But the e-mails for help or to ask if anyone else is having trouble I believe are warranted until we get a separate list JUST FOR PROVIDERS... Emails asking for help I have *zero* problem with This broadvoice thread has been going on FAR beyond that. You know it and I know it. This isn't a Hey I'm having some issues, is anyone else? anymore, it's a 2:30 I can't get on, what changed oh, 2:37, things are okay again oh wait, 2:40 what's going on? That's not asking ofr help. He knows his system hasn't changed. He knows that BV is up and down like a bride's nightie. The thread is no longer about help. It's a bitch and moan and status report on BV. I would remind you that bitching and moaning about people posting to the list about their providers are equally as useless and even more annoying especially since you don't use a separate thread for your bitching, you add it to a support thread... Agreed, which is why I waited so long to comment on it in the first place. Several people in this list, including myself, have tried to take our time to help those of us who use BV to get it working. If you don't want to help and just want to bitch about people posting suggestions and/or help you know what you can do with your e-mails... See above. This isn't about getting * to work with BV now, it's a Hey BV is down again, just so you know thread. I think it's great that while BV doesn't support asterisk directly they do their damndest to make it work for those of us who use it, especially James because they DON'T HAVE TO... No they don't have to, but they lose out on a wider customer base. Don't think for an instant that it's not to better their business. There's absolutely nothing wrong with doing so, either. The more VOIP providers that are out there and helping getting things work with Asterisk, the better. It's better for everyone. This list is about helping people who use * IN WHATEVER CONFIGURATION THEY USE IT IN to get it to work and to want to use it as their PBX solution whatever that may be... See above, it's not the help getting * and BV to talk I'm complaining about. I'm sorry if this post upsets you, I have probably alienated myself from the list now and will never get help again, but I am so frustrated with people putting people down and bitching at others for what they post. I disagree -- I have never refused to help someone on the list because of a prior disagreement and doubt there are many people here who do. Hell Jeremy McNamara and I don't see eye-to-eye at all on RADIUS support for *, but I've never felt like he's held that against me in any of my questions. Again I'm not putting anyone down. I'm asking that they use their brain a little before instantly posting to -users about any old half-baked thought that pops into their heads. This goes for the newbies too who don't bother reading any documentation or even hitting Google before firing up their MUA to blow their question to however many thousands of people read this list. Let me re-iterate again -- Asking for help getting * and BV to talk is good, it's healthy and it makes business better for BV and provides another connection point for *. This is good. Spamming the list with what seems like endless status reports about BV, *especially* once the fucking connection has been set up and has been shown to work is *not* good. It's even WORSE when these goddamned reports are coming in several times a day! I understand and even agree with your point, to a point -- can you even see my side of the argument? Yes... I agree with you... Also to a point... However... This is useless... We're doing the same thing you were talking about even now... But at least we've started another thread in which to do it... Also I realize that BV is supporting asterisk for business purposes.. I realize that it's not all philanthropic... almost nothing is nowadays... however again, they don't have to do it and most ITSPs simply do not... or are not smart enough to... That's all I was saying... I probably should have kept my mouth shut but it frustrates me... we get these people who are afraid to post on the list because they fear they will get flamed for asking a fucking question... Your post doesn't directly do that, I guess it just set me off... -Thanks for putting up with me... -Chris ___ Asterisk-Users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] [RANT] Today's possible problems with Broadvoice????
On Monday 02 August 2004 16:20, Brian McManus wrote: For the record, That wasn't the intent of my post, he did ask if there were alternatives, and I mentioned there are alternatives. It was the intent of my post; There have been what, 50 messages about Broadvoice being down on this list? It's entirely offtopic. Take it to -biz, this list is busy enough without constant status reports about one particular VOIP provider, especially one which doesn't seem to have it shit together and (unless I am mistaken) does nothing to support Asterisk. -A. I'm sorry, I have to say something here, it's been driving me crazy... snip -Chris Andrew, please go find your delete key and stop cluttering the list with you personal comments that, likewise, just added zero value to the list. The original comments have NOTHING to do with the biz list, IMHO! That's simply your translation. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] [RANT] Today's possible problems with Broadvoice????
On Monday 02 August 2004 19:26, Rich Adamson wrote: Andrew, please go find your delete key and stop cluttering the list with you personal comments that, likewise, just added zero value to the list. heh. Likewise. :-) The original comments have NOTHING to do with the biz list, IMHO! That's simply your translation. Clearly you haven't read my message before responding to it. I'm not saying the entire thread was crap, only the last number of comments on it that took it from a need some assistance getting BV to work to hey BV's down again, what's going on? -A. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] [RANT] Today's possible problems with Broadvoice????
- Original Message - From: Andrew Kohlsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] [RANT] Today's possible problems with Broadvoice On Monday 02 August 2004 19:26, Rich Adamson wrote: Andrew, please go find your delete key and stop cluttering the list with you personal comments that, likewise, just added zero value to the list. heh. Likewise. :-) The original comments have NOTHING to do with the biz list, IMHO! That's simply your translation. Clearly you haven't read my message before responding to it. I'm not saying the entire thread was crap, only the last number of comments on it that took it from a need some assistance getting BV to work to hey BV's down again, what's going on? -A. I should have kept my mouth shut... I've started a war now... I just was upset by some posts I've been seeing, flaming people for posting... It wasn't solely directed at Andrew... Whether the question is intelligent or not, at least point the person in the right direction, don't simply call them a luser and pat yourself on the back for your l33t skillz at flaming... Also I was kinda annoyed that people were complaining and whining about posts, yet they were doing it in a support thread rather than creating a new Whining thread, to me that's almost more unforgivable than posting off-topic... -Chris ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] [RANT] Today's possible problems with Broadvoice????
I joined this group 2 weeks ago, because I was having problems with my asterisk box and broadvoice. I found many discussions regarding similar issue. I belive that this is the group where we can share our problems and help each other. We know that broadvoice does not suport the asterisk, and the only person who can help is James Jones and you asterisk people. I cannot understand why you are so angry about my post. I don't know what kind of computer GURU you are, but I am a regular networking person who want to have the things up and running. Maybe, the way I presented the facts was not that professional as you do, but this is how I do it. Maybe you should just look at the post and try to help. Bartosz Wegrzyn - Original Message - From: Andrew Kohlsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] [RANT] Today's possible problems with Broadvoice On Monday 02 August 2004 19:26, Rich Adamson wrote: Andrew, please go find your delete key and stop cluttering the list with you personal comments that, likewise, just added zero value to the list. heh. Likewise. :-) The original comments have NOTHING to do with the biz list, IMHO! That's simply your translation. Clearly you haven't read my message before responding to it. I'm not saying the entire thread was crap, only the last number of comments on it that took it from a need some assistance getting BV to work to hey BV's down again, what's going on? -A. I should have kept my mouth shut... I've started a war now... I just was upset by some posts I've been seeing, flaming people for posting... It wasn't solely directed at Andrew... Whether the question is intelligent or not, at least point the person in the right direction, don't simply call them a luser and pat yourself on the back for your l33t skillz at flaming... Also I was kinda annoyed that people were complaining and whining about posts, yet they were doing it in a support thread rather than creating a new Whining thread, to me that's almost more unforgivable than posting off-topic... -Chris ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] [RANT] Today's possible problems with Broadvoice????
On Mon, 2004-08-02 at 20:32, Bartosz Wegrzyn wrote: I joined this group 2 weeks ago, because I was having problems with my asterisk box and broadvoice. I found many discussions regarding similar issue. I belive that this is the group where we can share our problems and help each other. We know that broadvoice does not suport the asterisk, and the only person who can help is James Jones and you asterisk people. I cannot understand why you are so angry about my post. I don't know what kind of computer GURU you are, but I am a regular networking person who want to have the things up and running. Maybe, the way I presented the facts was not that professional as you do, but this is how I do it. Maybe you should just look at the post and try to help. It isn't so much how you have brought this question. It is just that less than 1% of the subscribers of this list actually have even the slightest of interest in broadvoice. When the traffic for such a small percentage of the list gets to be 25-40% of the traffic, most of us start getting edgy and wishing the traffic was somewhere else. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] [RANT] Today's possible problems with Broadvoice????
On Monday 02 August 2004 21:32, Bartosz Wegrzyn wrote: I joined this group 2 weeks ago, because I was having problems with my asterisk box and broadvoice. I found many discussions regarding similar issue. I belive that this is the group where we can share our problems and help each other. We know that broadvoice does not suport the asterisk, and the only person who can help is James Jones and you asterisk people. I cannot understand why you are so angry about my post. *sigh* This'll be my last post regarding this thread, as it is obvious none of the people who responded to my email have actually read it. I am not angry at you, personally. I'm not angry at you for asking for help in setting up * to talk to BV. I *am* upset that now that your system was set up and working you felt it necessary to post status updates about the goddamned VOIP provider going up and down. I don't know what kind of computer GURU you are, but I am a regular networking person who want to have the things up and running. Maybe, the way I presented the facts was not that professional as you do, but this is how I do it. Maybe you should just look at the post and try to help. Computer guru? I'm fair to middlin'. VOIP guru? nowhere close. If you're a regular networking person who wants to have things up and running then I CERTAINLY don't forgive you for posting BV status questions/updates to a list that reaches literally thousands of subscribers! As a regular networking person you should know better. Now, as I said asking for help and reaching a solution is fine -- that's precisely what this list is for. Once it was working and posting BV is down, what's up? Oh, BV is up now. etc type messages is NOT okay, it's NOT what this list is for. I've got 35869 messages in this list to back me up on this. You're a */BV newbie -- no worries and welcome. Your initial posts were excellent, and I am glad that people were able to help you. Seriously. -A. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] [RANT] Today's possible problems with Broadvoice????
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Kohlsmith) writes: That's not asking ofr help. He knows his system hasn't changed. He knows that BV is up and down like a bride's nightie. Hey, without this thread you wouldn't have gotten to use that great line. Thanks for the chuckle! The thread is no longer about help. It's a bitch and moan and status report on BV. Actually there are a few asterisk issues mixed in there along with a VIOP service provider that has technical pains. The fact that asterisk doesn't periodically re-check or deal with multiple IP's handed out by DNS and register with all of them is an asterisk problem brought to light by the BV configuration. The other problems are more VOIP provider issues, but one that asterisk newbies might not realize would be problems before they put their money on the table and try to get asterisk running with a particular provider. Here is my checklist that I will use to evaluate future VIOP providers. * Does the provider give you the raw settings so you can use a generic SIP device (such as asterisk)? * Can the VOIP provider assign you a local telephone number or will people be forced to call long distance to reach you? * Does the VOIP provider have an 8-bit clean ulaw path or is one forced to use their choice of compression? * Does the VOIP provider try to hide their ping times by filtering ICMP echo-requests and/or echo-replies. # Does the VOIP provider filter all ICMP's at the border router because of some security issue involving copious hand-waving. * Does the VOIP provider have SRV records setup for _sip._udp.company.topdomain ? (Shame, shame on any provider that can't take the minute or two to add those DNS records!) * Does the VOIP provider have forward and reverse DNS entries in place for all machines that send packets to customers? * Does the VOIP provider have low delay times (say 20ms - 40ms) for SIP-pings to their server? (Asterisk issues: Asterisk could really have a yellow/orange/red alarm system for indicating when delay times are heading upwards and user's will notice and complain.) * Does the VOIP provider force you to mung your native SIP address and make it impossible for your SIP device to re-invite and cut out the delays associated with forwarding all packets through their server? * Does the VOIP provider allow you to inject your SIP name and number on a per-call basis? (Eg. Can family members have the sip name aka caller id, indicate the real calling party's name?) -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprechthttp://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/ openbsd amd64 http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/ftp/asterisk-openbsd35.patch ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] [RANT] Today's possible problems with Broadvoice????
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 8:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] [RANT] Today's possible problems with Broadvoice [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Kohlsmith) writes: That's not asking ofr help. He knows his system hasn't changed. He knows that BV is up and down like a bride's nightie. Hey, without this thread you wouldn't have gotten to use that great line. Thanks for the chuckle! The thread is no longer about help. It's a bitch and moan and status report on BV. Actually there are a few asterisk issues mixed in there along with a VIOP service provider that has technical pains. The fact that asterisk doesn't periodically re-check or deal with multiple IP's handed out by DNS and register with all of them is an asterisk problem brought to light by the BV configuration. The other problems are more VOIP provider issues, but one that asterisk newbies might not realize would be problems before they put their money on the table and try to get asterisk running with a particular provider. Here is my checklist that I will use to evaluate future VIOP providers. * Does the provider give you the raw settings so you can use a generic SIP device (such as asterisk)? * Can the VOIP provider assign you a local telephone number or will people be forced to call long distance to reach you? * Does the VOIP provider have an 8-bit clean ulaw path or is one forced to use their choice of compression? * Does the VOIP provider try to hide their ping times by filtering ICMP echo-requests and/or echo-replies. # Does the VOIP provider filter all ICMP's at the border router because of some security issue involving copious hand-waving. * Does the VOIP provider have SRV records setup for _sip._udp.company.topdomain ? (Shame, shame on any provider that can't take the minute or two to add those DNS records!) * Does the VOIP provider have forward and reverse DNS entries in place for all machines that send packets to customers? * Does the VOIP provider have low delay times (say 20ms - 40ms) for SIP-pings to their server? (Asterisk issues: Asterisk could really have a yellow/orange/red alarm system for indicating when delay times are heading upwards and user's will notice and complain.) * Does the VOIP provider force you to mung your native SIP address and make it impossible for your SIP device to re-invite and cut out the delays associated with forwarding all packets through their server? * Does the VOIP provider allow you to inject your SIP name and number on a per-call basis? (Eg. Can family members have the sip name aka caller id, indicate the real calling party's name?) -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprechthttp://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/ openbsd amd64 http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/ftp/asterisk-openbsd35.patch Any suggestions for VSP's located in Canada, or the US that provide those checklist items? It would be nice to have that information included in the wiki. Geoff ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
