Re: [Asterisk-Users] Address Separator hex b causes callerid rejection

2004-02-02 Thread bam
I've now twigged that this is an SS7 flag and is being set in our switch as 
a result of * passing the Network provided screening indicator to a value 
that is interpreted as untrusted. Is there a simple way of changing the 
default value for this?

At 16:22 30/01/04, you wrote:

I am having a little bit of a problem with BT rejecting my callerid values 
as they are prefixed by hex b. This indicates that the caller id is user 
provided and not verified.

Does anyone know how I can control where this appears in the cli?

The purpose of the separator is described below:

1 - PNO 006 section 2.4.19 c note states that the hex b denotes an
address separator, to separate the part which is network provided from
that which is user provided - This means that it separates the extension
number from the rest of the number.
2 - PNO008 section 22.1.3.3 states that the hex b dependant on its
position, denotes whether the screening indicator is user provided not
verified, network provided or user provided verified and passed.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Address Separator hex b causes callerid rejection

2004-02-02 Thread Linus Surguy
I missed your earlier message, but to try and help:

a) You are correct, the hex 'b' usage is only valid in the UK specific BT
IUP SS#7 interconnect protocol and therefore is nothing to do with PRI usage
whatsoever (or indeed ISUP SS#7).

b) In q931.c these various flags can be set for outbound CLI (caller id),
from user provided not verified, user provider verified, user provided
verfication failed, and network provided.

c) BT however will only accept CLI that you are authorised to send -
whatever the state of the flags, this means that you can only send CLI that
matches numbers that have been allocated to your PRI. If you are trying to
do otherwise this will always fail.

Linus

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 I've now twigged that this is an SS7 flag and is being set in our switch
as
 a result of * passing the Network provided screening indicator to a value
 that is interpreted as untrusted. Is there a simple way of changing the
 default value for this?

 At 16:22 30/01/04, you wrote:

 I am having a little bit of a problem with BT rejecting my callerid
values
 as they are prefixed by hex b. This indicates that the caller id is user
 provided and not verified.
 
 Does anyone know how I can control where this appears in the cli?
 
 
 The purpose of the separator is described below:
 
 1 - PNO 006 section 2.4.19 c note states that the hex b denotes an
 address separator, to separate the part which is network provided from
 that which is user provided - This means that it separates the extension
 number from the rest of the number.
 
 2 - PNO008 section 22.1.3.3 states that the hex b dependant on its
 position, denotes whether the screening indicator is user provided not
 verified, network provided or user provided verified and passed.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Address Separator hex b causes callerid rejection

2004-02-02 Thread bam
The problem is that the ISDN call to our switch has the screening indicator 
set to untrusted, to the switch sticks 0xb on the front of the CLI. BT 
then drop the CLI altogether.

So I need to find a way of fiddling with the * presentation.

At 12:29 02/02/04, you wrote:
I missed your earlier message, but to try and help:

a) You are correct, the hex 'b' usage is only valid in the UK specific BT
IUP SS#7 interconnect protocol and therefore is nothing to do with PRI usage
whatsoever (or indeed ISUP SS#7).
b) In q931.c these various flags can be set for outbound CLI (caller id),
from user provided not verified, user provider verified, user provided
verfication failed, and network provided.
c) BT however will only accept CLI that you are authorised to send -
whatever the state of the flags, this means that you can only send CLI that
matches numbers that have been allocated to your PRI. If you are trying to
do otherwise this will always fail.
Linus


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Address Separator hex b causes callerid rejection

2004-02-02 Thread Linus Surguy
 The problem is that the ISDN call to our switch has the screening
indicator
 set to untrusted, to the switch sticks 0xb on the front of the CLI. BT
 then drop the CLI altogether.

 So I need to find a way of fiddling with the * presentation.

Ahhh. so you have an interconnect switch then I take it!

You need to set the q931.c value - PRES_ALLOWED_NETWORK_NUMBER which has a
value of '3'. I think, although I've never tried this, you can actually call
the application CallingPres with the value of 3 before making an outbound
call. CallingPres(3) I think should do it - someone else might be able to
advise better.

Linus


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Address Separator hex b causes callerid rejection

2004-02-02 Thread Linus Surguy
  The problem is that the ISDN call to our switch has the screening
 indicator
  set to untrusted, to the switch sticks 0xb on the front of the CLI. BT
  then drop the CLI altogether.

Actually, just as a point, the 0xb doesnt mean 'untrusted' as such, it just
means user provided. I'd be interested if you'd like to dial 0870 068 9001
and let me know the date and time of the call to see if we see the CLI you
are trying to pass.

Linus



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Address Separator hex b causes callerid rejection

2004-02-02 Thread bam
We do indeed, no one to blame :-(

CallerPres(3) does the business, thank you very much.

Is there a list of all the applications somewhere? I've been looking in 
asterisk/apps/ and can't find CallerPres.

all the best,

Brian

At 13:41 02/02/04, you wrote:

Ahhh. so you have an interconnect switch then I take it!

You need to set the q931.c value - PRES_ALLOWED_NETWORK_NUMBER which has a
value of '3'. I think, although I've never tried this, you can actually call
the application CallingPres with the value of 3 before making an outbound
call. CallingPres(3) I think should do it - someone else might be able to
advise better.
Linus


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Address Separator hex b causes callerid rejection

2004-02-02 Thread Eric Wieling
show applications in the Asterisk CLI.  Then show applicationname

On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 11:04, bam wrote:
 We do indeed, no one to blame :-(
 
 CallerPres(3) does the business, thank you very much.
 
 Is there a list of all the applications somewhere? I've been looking in 
 asterisk/apps/ and can't find CallerPres.
 
 all the best,
 
 Brian
 
 At 13:41 02/02/04, you wrote:
 
 Ahhh. so you have an interconnect switch then I take it!
 
 You need to set the q931.c value - PRES_ALLOWED_NETWORK_NUMBER which has a
 value of '3'. I think, although I've never tried this, you can actually call
 the application CallingPres with the value of 3 before making an outbound
 call. CallingPres(3) I think should do it - someone else might be able to
 advise better.
 
 Linus
 
 
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[Asterisk-Users] Address Separator hex b causes callerid rejection

2004-01-30 Thread bam
I am having a little bit of a problem with BT rejecting my callerid values 
as they are prefixed by hex b. This indicates that the caller id is user 
provided and not verified.

Does anyone know how I can control where this appears in the cli?

The purpose of the separator is described below:

1 - PNO 006 section 2.4.19 c note states that the hex b denotes an
address separator, to separate the part which is network provided from
that which is user provided - This means that it separates the extension
number from the rest of the number.
2 - PNO008 section 22.1.3.3 states that the hex b dependant on its
position, denotes whether the screening indicator is user provided not
verified, network provided or user provided verified and passed.
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