[asterisk-users] asterisk segfault debian jessie asterisk 11.13
Hi, every two weeks the asterisk process has a segfault. Any idea whats reason or what I can do... thanks pc kernel: [1780743.239296] asterisk[11362]: segfault at 0 ip (null) sp 7f1e396b04a8 error 14 version is debian jessie Asterisk 11.13.1~dfsg-2+b1 built by buildd @ brahms on a x86_64 running Linux -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk segfault debian jessie asterisk 11.13
You'll want to follow these instructions to get a backtrace: https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Getting+a+Backtrace And then create an issue here and attach the backtrace file: https://issues.asterisk.org This way the Asterisk team will have the best chance of being able to locate and resolve the problem, or at least advise you how to avoid it. On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:43 AM, Thomas thomasit...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, every two weeks the asterisk process has a segfault. Any idea whats reason or what I can do... thanks pc kernel: [1780743.239296] asterisk[11362]: segfault at 0 ip (null) sp 7f1e396b04a8 error 14 version is debian jessie Asterisk 11.13.1~dfsg-2+b1 built by buildd @ brahms on a x86_64 running Linux -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- [image: Digium logo] Scott Griepentrog Digium, Inc · Software Developer 445 Jan Davis Drive NW · Huntsville, AL 35806 · US direct/fax: +1 256 428 6239 · mobile: +1 256 580 6090 Check us out at: http://digium.com · http://asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk in debian Wheezy 1.8.13.1 vs. Squeeze 1.8.23.1
On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 10:05:44PM +0200, Thomas wrote: Hello, in Squeeze Asterisk 1.8.23.1 is installed, Self-installed in Wheezy older version 1.8.13.1~dfsg1-3+deb7u3. From a package. With version 1.8.13.1 I have some problems so I would like to install version 1.8.23.1 used in Squeeze whats running fine for me. How I can do this? Install from source as in Squeeze? -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Asterisk in debian Wheezy 1.8.13.1 vs. Squeeze 1.8.23.1
Hello, in Squeeze Asterisk 1.8.23.1 is installed, in Wheezy older version 1.8.13.1~dfsg1-3+deb7u3. With version 1.8.13.1 I have some problems so I would like to install version 1.8.23.1 used in Squeeze whats running fine for me. How I can do this? thanks for help Thomas -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.8.11.0 Debian Squeeze packages with T.38 gateway, queue hints and fixed RFC4235 (notifycid=yes)
On 18/04/2012 6:39 AM, Kevin P. Fleming wrote: On 04/17/2012 06:17 AM, Larry Moore wrote: The send log you have posted does not show any outgoing T.38 packets from your system. I set up a test build of 1.8.11.0 using the patch recently released, I have difficulties sending T.38 with this patch, in fact I cannot send successfully however I can receive. I did however observe some outgoing T.38 packets. The analogue fax modem I was dialling into is under my control hence the log files showed there was no signalling coming from my ITSP, The T.38 session on my Asterisk server show the CRP's which were sent from the analogue fax device during the negotiation. The patch I have used for a while seems to give me outgoing functionality as well as incoming. I can't reproduce your scenario whereby your T.38 session is communicating with a different gateway to the SIP server you use hence can only speculate that Asterisk has difficulty wanting to send T.38 SDP traffic when it is a different device than the SIP server it negotiates with. We know for a fact that Asterisk has no trouble with the signaling and media going to different addresses/ports. Honestly, I just don't understand why all of this effort is being put into trying to use an old (and clearly broken) patch for adding T.38 gateway support to Asterisk 1.8. You guys know that it works in Asterisk 10, but you say you can't use Asterisk 10 for some reason that I don't understand. I have downloaded asterisk 10.3.0 and compiled on a Centos 6 system I setup to compare behaviour on OpenBSD with a Linux version of asterisk based upon the OpenBSD port. Unfortunately the T.38 Gateway functionality in my build of 10.3.0 doesn't appear to work. Looking at the upgrade documentation from 1.8 there doesn't appear to be any considerations applicable to my setup. As an excercise in futility I downloaded the Asterisk 1.8.11.0 source and compiled using the version of T.38 patch I have maintained and tested by sending a fax via an IAX channel out through my SIP provider, the fax was sent successfully. I then removed and recreated the asterisk 1.8.11.0 directory and applied the back-port patch and observed the same problem when attempting to send through the T.38 gateway as was observed in Asterisk 10. Console output of Asterisk 1.8.11.0 with Asterisk 10 backport patch: asterisk-dev*CLI -- Accepting AUTHENTICATED call from 192.168.54.12: requested format = slin, requested prefs = (), actual format = slin, host prefs = (slin|alaw|ulaw), priority = mine -- Executing [@FAX-T30:1] Set(IAX2/iaxmodem1-4445, FAXOPT(t38gateway)=yes) in new stack -- Executing [@FAX-T30:2] Dial(IAX2/iaxmodem1-4445, SIP/@itsp-fax,55) in new stack == Using SIP RTP TOS bits 184 == Using SIP RTP CoS mark 5 -- Called SIP/@itsp-fax -- SIP/itsp-fax-0004 is making progress passing it to IAX2/iaxmodem1-4445 -- SIP/itsp-fax-0004 answered IAX2/iaxmodem1-4445 [Apr 23 21:14:11] NOTICE[14165]: channel.c:4152 __ast_read: Dropping incompatible voice frame on SIP/itsp-fax-0004 of format slin since our native format has changed to 0x8 (alaw) == Using UDPTL TOS bits 184 == Using UDPTL CoS mark 5 [Apr 23 21:14:12] ERROR[14165]: astobj2.c:110 INTERNAL_OBJ: user_data is NULL [Apr 23 21:14:23] WARNING[14165]: res_rtp_asterisk.c:2135 ast_rtp_read: RTP Read too short [Apr 23 21:14:24] WARNING[14165]: res_rtp_asterisk.c:2135 ast_rtp_read: RTP Read too short [Apr 23 21:14:24] WARNING[14165]: res_rtp_asterisk.c:2135 ast_rtp_read: RTP Read too short [Apr 23 21:14:24] WARNING[14165]: res_rtp_asterisk.c:2135 ast_rtp_read: RTP Read too short [Apr 23 21:14:24] WARNING[14165]: res_rtp_asterisk.c:2135 ast_rtp_read: RTP Read too short [Apr 23 21:14:24] WARNING[14165]: res_rtp_asterisk.c:2135 ast_rtp_read: RTP Read too short [Apr 23 21:14:24] WARNING[14165]: res_rtp_asterisk.c:2135 ast_rtp_read: RTP Read too short [Apr 23 21:14:24] WARNING[14165]: res_rtp_asterisk.c:2135 ast_rtp_read: RTP Read too short Console output of Asterisk 10.3.0: Connected to Asterisk 10.3.0 currently running on asterisk-dev (pid = 14798) Verbosity is at least 3 Core debug is at least 3 -- Accepting AUTHENTICATED call from 192.168.54.12: requested format = slin, requested prefs = (), actual format = slin, host prefs = (slin|alaw|ulaw), priority = mine -- Executing [@FAX-T30:1] Set(IAX2/iaxmodem1-863, FAXOPT(t38gateway)=yes) in new stack -- Executing [@FAX-T30:2] Dial(IAX2/iaxmodem1-863, SIP/@itsp-fax,55) in new stack == Using SIP RTP TOS bits 184 == Using SIP RTP CoS mark 5 -- Called SIP/@itsp-fax -- SIP/itsp-fax- is making progress passing it to IAX2/iaxmodem1-863 -- SIP/itsp-fax- answered IAX2/iaxmodem1-863 == Using UDPTL TOS bits 184 == Using UDPTL CoS mark 5 [Apr 23 21:25:15] ERROR[14983]: astobj2.c:110 INTERNAL_OBJ: user_data is
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.8.11.0 Debian Squeeze packages with T.38 gateway, queue hints and fixed RFC4235 (notifycid=yes)
Hi, Il 18/04/2012 00:39, Kevin P. Fleming ha scritto: You guys know that it works in Asterisk 10, but you say you can't use Asterisk 10 for some reason that I don't understand. 1) No Debian packages for v10. If you have to maintain lots of servers, installing from sources is a big burden. Compile, install and forget isn't the way I work: if I have to apply a fix or close a security hole I can easily push the patches to my build server which will recompile all the branches I maintain, then every server will automatically upgrade with cron jobs. 2) A new whole of problems when upgrading production machines from a working 1.8.x to v10. That will mean parsing configs manually, find the problems and fixing them. 3) Third parties utilities/hardware/modules. I'm still waiting for a fix for my Sangoma BRI card which did broke when upgrading... You need a compatible version of third parties components to use recent versions of asterisk/dahdi/whatever and upgrading third parties components does always mean problems. 4) Isn't v10 supposed to be beta/non-production/non-long-term-support?[1] If we want to honor what Digium says we should use 1.8 for production servers when reliability is important. Backporting a single unstable feature is much better than the whole thing. 5) What was the purpose of the t38gateway-1.8 branch? Why did it existed at all if not to allow users to use t38 gw in production servers? I even read about the possibility to backport t38 gw to 1.8 as a plugin, but it seems it isn't a requested feature (which is strange because I know peoples who stopped using asterisk because of the lack of t38 gw). I really don't want to do polemics: I always used pstn for the faxes until now and I will keep using it. No problem. Cheers, Niccolò [1]https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Proposed+changes+to+Asterisk+release+and+support+cycles -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.8.11.0 Debian Squeeze packages with T.38 gateway, queue hints and fixed RFC4235 (notifycid=yes)
On 04/18/2012 06:08 AM, Niccolò Belli wrote: Hi, Il 18/04/2012 00:39, Kevin P. Fleming ha scritto: You guys know that it works in Asterisk 10, but you say you can't use Asterisk 10 for some reason that I don't understand. 1) No Debian packages for v10. If you have to maintain lots of servers, installing from sources is a big burden. Compile, install and forget isn't the way I work: if I have to apply a fix or close a security hole I can easily push the patches to my build server which will recompile all the branches I maintain, then every server will automatically upgrade with cron jobs. This is a valid point, and we'll get this corrected. Our package repository should have packages for Asterisk 10, but it doesn't. 2) A new whole of problems when upgrading production machines from a working 1.8.x to v10. That will mean parsing configs manually, find the problems and fixing them. I haven't seen any rash of problems with config files when users upgrade from 1.8 to 10; in fact, we've changed development policies specifically in order to avoid breaking existing working configurations during upgrades, except when they are unavoidable. 3) Third parties utilities/hardware/modules. I'm still waiting for a fix for my Sangoma BRI card which did broke when upgrading... You need a compatible version of third parties components to use recent versions of asterisk/dahdi/whatever and upgrading third parties components does always mean problems. Do you expect Debian-style packages to include these third-party components in Asterisk? If you are talking about DAHDI specifically, moving to Asterisk 10 does not change DAHDI requirements at all. 4) Isn't v10 supposed to be beta/non-production/non-long-term-support?[1] If we want to honor what Digium says we should use 1.8 for production servers when reliability is important. Backporting a single unstable feature is much better than the whole thing. Asterisk 10 is not 'beta' or 'non-production', I have no idea where you are getting such an idea. Yes, it is a 'standard', not 'long term support' release, but it is still fully supported and intended for production use (it is not a 'developer' release). If you want Digium to be able to support your installation, especially for a long term, adding in a series of complex patches that significantly change behavior will not lead to a supportable system; if you report an issue against your patched version of Asterisk, the first response will be to replicate the problem without the patches in place, which defeats the purpose of using a 'supported' release. 5) What was the purpose of the t38gateway-1.8 branch? Why did it existed at all if not to allow users to use t38 gw in production servers? I even read about the possibility to backport t38 gw to 1.8 as a plugin, but it seems it isn't a requested feature (which is strange because I know peoples who stopped using asterisk because of the lack of t38 gw). You'd have to ask the community developer who created the branch what his intentions were with it; it's not an 'official' release of Asterisk, and at this point it isn't supported by anyone. The T.38 gateway code was significantly reworked to get it merged into trunk (which became Asterisk 10), because the 1.8 version had a lot of serious issues. That code is most definitely *not* ready for production, especially given how difficult T.38 interoperability is in general. T.38 gateway support isn't available as a 'plugin' for older releases because those releases don't have the necessary APIs and functionality needed to make it work. Adding those into an older release would risk destabilizing that release, and would dramatically increase the testing and support burden. I really don't want to do polemics: I always used pstn for the faxes until now and I will keep using it. No problem. If you feel that having a discussion about what makes sense for users to do and not to do is 'polemics', then fine, you can do whatever you like. Just please stop trying to assign blame or fault to people because this old, unsupported branch doesn't do what you want, especially when there is a current, fully supported release that will do what you want. -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies Jabber: kflem...@digium.com | SIP: kpflem...@digium.com | Skype: kpfleming 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA Check us out at www.digium.com www.asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.8.11.0 Debian Squeeze packages with T.38 gateway, queue hints and fixed RFC4235 (notifycid=yes)
Kevin P. Fleming wrote: This is a valid point, and we'll get this corrected. Our package repository should have packages for Asterisk 10, but it doesn't. How likely is it that a Centos 6 repo might be setup at the same time? -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.8.11.0 Debian Squeeze packages with T.38 gateway, queue hints and fixed RFC4235 (notifycid=yes)
On 04/18/2012 11:23 AM, Dan Austin wrote: Kevin P. Fleming wrote: This is a valid point, and we'll get this corrected. Our package repository should have packages for Asterisk 10, but it doesn't. How likely is it that a Centos 6 repo might be setup at the same time? It's on our list, but since the RPMs are primarily designed to support AsteriskNOW, and AsteriskNOW is still built on CentOS 5, it's not a high priority. -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies Jabber: kflem...@digium.com | SIP: kpflem...@digium.com | Skype: kpfleming 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA Check us out at www.digium.com www.asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.8.11.0 Debian Squeeze packages with T.38 gateway, queue hints and fixed RFC4235 (notifycid=yes)
Il 18/04/2012 14:50, Kevin P. Fleming ha scritto: Do you expect Debian-style packages to include these third-party components in Asterisk? If you are talking about DAHDI specifically, moving to Asterisk 10 does not change DAHDI requirements at all. No, I just pointed out that upgrading to a new asterisk version (ie 1.6 - 1.8) can lead to regressions when using third parties components. For example two years ago there was a bug with sangoma cards and asterisk 1.8 and now there is another one with dahdi 2.6. If you feel that having a discussion about what makes sense for users to do and not to do is 'polemics', then fine, you can do whatever you like. Just please stop trying to assign blame or fault to people because this old, unsupported branch doesn't do what you want, especially when there is a current, fully supported release that will do what you want. I think you misunderstood: I just wanted to point out that *I do not blame anyone*, I was just speaking about the reasons because of I prefer to not upgrade to v10. About asterisk 10, it seems I misunderstood the new release cycle, my fault. Niccolò -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.8.11.0 Debian Squeeze packages with T.38 gateway, queue hints and fixed RFC4235 (notifycid=yes)
Il 18/04/2012 14:50, Kevin P. Fleming ha scritto: we'll get this corrected That's an awesome news indeed. Niccolò -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.8.11.0 Debian Squeeze packages with T.38 gateway, queue hints and fixed RFC4235 (notifycid=yes)
Il 17/04/2012 01:10, Niccolò Belli ha scritto: Tomorrow I will try without directmedia=yes. Unfortunately it didn't help. Niccolò -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.8.11.0 Debian Squeeze packages with T.38 gateway, queue hints and fixed RFC4235 (notifycid=yes)
The send log you have posted does not show any outgoing T.38 packets from your system. I set up a test build of 1.8.11.0 using the patch recently released, I have difficulties sending T.38 with this patch, in fact I cannot send successfully however I can receive. I did however observe some outgoing T.38 packets. The analogue fax modem I was dialling into is under my control hence the log files showed there was no signalling coming from my ITSP, The T.38 session on my Asterisk server show the CRP's which were sent from the analogue fax device during the negotiation. The patch I have used for a while seems to give me outgoing functionality as well as incoming. I can't reproduce your scenario whereby your T.38 session is communicating with a different gateway to the SIP server you use hence can only speculate that Asterisk has difficulty wanting to send T.38 SDP traffic when it is a different device than the SIP server it negotiates with. Cheers, Larry. On 17/04/2012 6:47 PM, Niccolò Belli wrote: Il 17/04/2012 01:10, Niccolò Belli ha scritto: Tomorrow I will try without directmedia=yes. Unfortunately it didn't help. Niccolò -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.8.11.0 Debian Squeeze packages with T.38 gateway, queue hints and fixed RFC4235 (notifycid=yes)
On 04/17/2012 06:17 AM, Larry Moore wrote: The send log you have posted does not show any outgoing T.38 packets from your system. I set up a test build of 1.8.11.0 using the patch recently released, I have difficulties sending T.38 with this patch, in fact I cannot send successfully however I can receive. I did however observe some outgoing T.38 packets. The analogue fax modem I was dialling into is under my control hence the log files showed there was no signalling coming from my ITSP, The T.38 session on my Asterisk server show the CRP's which were sent from the analogue fax device during the negotiation. The patch I have used for a while seems to give me outgoing functionality as well as incoming. I can't reproduce your scenario whereby your T.38 session is communicating with a different gateway to the SIP server you use hence can only speculate that Asterisk has difficulty wanting to send T.38 SDP traffic when it is a different device than the SIP server it negotiates with. We know for a fact that Asterisk has no trouble with the signaling and media going to different addresses/ports. Honestly, I just don't understand why all of this effort is being put into trying to use an old (and clearly broken) patch for adding T.38 gateway support to Asterisk 1.8. You guys know that it works in Asterisk 10, but you say you can't use Asterisk 10 for some reason that I don't understand. -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies Jabber: kflem...@digium.com | SIP: kpflem...@digium.com | Skype: kpfleming 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA Check us out at www.digium.com www.asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.8.11.0 Debian Squeeze packages with T.38 gateway, queue hints and fixed RFC4235 (notifycid=yes)
On 04/14/2012 07:33 AM, Niccolò Belli wrote: Il 04/04/2012 07:45, Anton Kvashenkin ha scritto: Check it out, thank you. You're welcome. New packages against dahdi-linux-2.6.0, dahdi-tools-2.6.0, libpri 1.4.12+svn20120409 and spandsp-0.0.6~pre20: http://www.linuxsystems.it/2012/04/asterisk-1-8-11-0-debian-squeeze-packages-with-t-38-gateway-queue-hints-and-fixed-rfc4235/ If someone can help me there is a bug with T38 gw and eutelia: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-dev/2012-April/054681.html Asterisk 10.4-rc1 does work, so it should be a matter of identifying the problem and backporting the fix. Keep in mind that the T.38 gateway code was reworked rather substantially when it was merged into Asterisk 10; the last version that irroot published for Asterisk 1.8 was long before this rework occurred. It's quite unlikely that locating a simple difference will actually occur, or that it would be easy to backport. -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies Jabber: kflem...@digium.com | SIP: kpflem...@digium.com | Skype: kpfleming 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA Check us out at www.digium.com www.asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.8.11.0 Debian Squeeze packages with T.38 gateway, queue hints and fixed RFC4235 (notifycid=yes)
I applied the patch to my 1.8.11.0 build and observed the same error as shown in you t38_send.log. I have maintained a private patch file for this functionality and reverted to it when I too observed the INTERNAL_OBJ: user_data is NULL message. Do you have directmedia=no in your SIP configuration? Cheers, Larry. On 14/04/2012 8:33 PM, Niccolò Belli wrote: Il 04/04/2012 07:45, Anton Kvashenkin ha scritto: Check it out, thank you. You're welcome. New packages against dahdi-linux-2.6.0, dahdi-tools-2.6.0, libpri 1.4.12+svn20120409 and spandsp-0.0.6~pre20: http://www.linuxsystems.it/2012/04/asterisk-1-8-11-0-debian-squeeze-packages-with-t-38-gateway-queue-hints-and-fixed-rfc4235/ If someone can help me there is a bug with T38 gw and eutelia: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-dev/2012-April/054681.html Asterisk 10.4-rc1 does work, so it should be a matter of identifying the problem and backporting the fix. Thanks, Niccolò -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.8.11.0 Debian Squeeze packages with T.38 gateway, queue hints and fixed RFC4235 (notifycid=yes)
Hi, Il 16/04/2012 22:50, Larry Moore ha scritto: Do you have directmedia=no in your SIP configuration? Yes I have. Niccolò -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.8.11.0 Debian Squeeze packages with T.38 gateway, queue hints and fixed RFC4235 (notifycid=yes)
Perhaps your problem may be that Asterisk doesn't like to send T.38 to a peer other than the one it negotiates the SIP connection with. If I recall correctly you mentioned a while back that eutelia made a change which broke your outgoing T.38 functionality, did you ever find out what the change was? Larry. On 17/04/2012 4:58 AM, Niccolò Belli wrote: Hi, Il 16/04/2012 22:50, Larry Moore ha scritto: Do you have directmedia=no in your SIP configuration? Yes I have. Niccolò -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.8.11.0 Debian Squeeze packages with T.38 gateway, queue hints and fixed RFC4235 (notifycid=yes)
Hi, If someone is interested I made Debian Squeeze Packages: http://www.linuxsystems.it/2012/04/asterisk-1-8-11-0-debian-squeeze-packages-with-t-38-gateway-queue-hints-and-fixed-rfc4235/ Niccolò Il 30/03/2012 17:22, Niccolò Belli ha scritto: http://www.linuxsystems.it/2012/03/new-t-38-gateway-patch-against-asterisk-1-8-11-0/ I made a new patch from irroot's branch and I ported it to 1.8.11. Unfortunately latest one is still against 1.8.8 and porting from subversion is quite time consuming, hopefully my work will be useful to someone else. Today I had no time to properly test it, so feedbacks are welcome. Squeeze debian packages with t38 gateway will follow. Cheers, Niccolò -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.8.11.0 Debian Squeeze packages with T.38 gateway, queue hints and fixed RFC4235 (notifycid=yes)
Check it out, thank you. 3 апреля 2012 г. 20:27 пользователь Niccolò Belli darkba...@linuxsystems.it написал: Hi, If someone is interested I made Debian Squeeze Packages: http://www.linuxsystems.it/**2012/04/asterisk-1-8-11-0-** debian-squeeze-packages-with-**t-38-gateway-queue-hints-and-** fixed-rfc4235/http://www.linuxsystems.it/2012/04/asterisk-1-8-11-0-debian-squeeze-packages-with-t-38-gateway-queue-hints-and-fixed-rfc4235/ Niccolò Il 30/03/2012 17:22, Niccolò Belli ha scritto: http://www.linuxsystems.it/**2012/03/new-t-38-gateway-** patch-against-asterisk-1-8-11-**0/http://www.linuxsystems.it/2012/03/new-t-38-gateway-patch-against-asterisk-1-8-11-0/ I made a new patch from irroot's branch and I ported it to 1.8.11. Unfortunately latest one is still against 1.8.8 and porting from subversion is quite time consuming, hopefully my work will be useful to someone else. Today I had no time to properly test it, so feedbacks are welcome. Squeeze debian packages with t38 gateway will follow. Cheers, Niccolò -- __**__**_ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/**mailman/listinfo/asterisk-**usershttp://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian / Sparc taking up 95%+ CPU with No calls on the system
On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 08:30:52PM -0400, A E [Gmail] wrote: hello people, I am running v1.8.4.2 on debian squeeze on a sparc platform...and for some reason I have noticed that only after a few test calls, the asterisk process is running between 95% - 99.9% CPU when there's absolutely nothing on the system. This is a clean Asterisk system in an internal network with nothing else on it with no calls on it but it's still sitting with 96% CPU. I'm not a developer so not that ept with using debug tools etc to figure out why it's doing that. Could anyone please tell me how I can figure out why it's doing this and/or help debug this. Makes no sense for it to be using CPU with nothing happening on the system The first thing I'd do is run 'top', press shift H, and see what is/are the offending thread(s). Is it a single thread? Two? More? Is it all user time? Much of it is system time? If you strace the PID of the top thread (strace -p PID), what do you see? -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian / Sparc taking up 95%+ CPU with No calls on the system
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:21 AM, Tzafrir Cohen tzafrir.co...@xorcom.comwrote: On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 08:30:52PM -0400, A E [Gmail] wrote: hello people, I am running v1.8.4.2 on debian squeeze on a sparc platform...and for some reason I have noticed that only after a few test calls, the asterisk process is running between 95% - 99.9% CPU when there's absolutely nothing on the system. This is a clean Asterisk system in an internal network with nothing else on it with no calls on it but it's still sitting with 96% CPU. I'm not a developer so not that ept with using debug tools etc to figure out why it's doing that. Could anyone please tell me how I can figure out why it's doing this and/or help debug this. Makes no sense for it to be using CPU with nothing happening on the system The first thing I'd do is run 'top', press shift H, and see what is/are the offending thread(s). Is it a single thread? Two? More? Is it all user time? Much of it is system time? If you strace the PID of the top thread (strace -p PID), what do you see? Hi Tzafrir, thanks for the comments and suggestions. So I'd done all of that and what I'd found was - After I'd done Shift-h, There was only one / single thread that was taking all of the CPU - 33% was Sser and 66% was System times - when I'd run an strace on the PID of the offending thread it just rolled some message past my screen which I couldn't capture and can't remember what it said :( Anyway I've killed that process, updated the packages the system, upgraded to 1.8.4.4 and will give it another shot and see what happens. Would've helped if I'd kept the system as it was so people could help me figure out what was going on, but the fact that it stopped responding to commands which were trying to kill the hung channels, reloading configs, or even trying to stop the system wouldn't work is bizarre. I hope the developers pay attention to that. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian / Sparc taking up 95%+ CPU with No calls on the system
On Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 06:15:26AM -0400, A E [Gmail] wrote: On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:21 AM, Tzafrir Cohen tzafrir.co...@xorcom.comwrote: On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 08:30:52PM -0400, A E [Gmail] wrote: hello people, I am running v1.8.4.2 on debian squeeze on a sparc platform...and for some reason I have noticed that only after a few test calls, the asterisk process is running between 95% - 99.9% CPU when there's absolutely nothing on the system. This is a clean Asterisk system in an internal network with nothing else on it with no calls on it but it's still sitting with 96% CPU. I'm not a developer so not that ept with using debug tools etc to figure out why it's doing that. Could anyone please tell me how I can figure out why it's doing this and/or help debug this. Makes no sense for it to be using CPU with nothing happening on the system The first thing I'd do is run 'top', press shift H, and see what is/are the offending thread(s). Is it a single thread? Two? More? Is it all user time? Much of it is system time? If you strace the PID of the top thread (strace -p PID), what do you see? Hi Tzafrir, thanks for the comments and suggestions. So I'd done all of that and what I'd found was - After I'd done Shift-h, There was only one / single thread that was taking all of the CPU - 33% was Sser and 66% was System times - when I'd run an strace on the PID of the offending thread it just rolled some message past my screen which I couldn't capture and can't remember what it said :( Just press ctrl-c . Anyway I've killed that process, updated the packages the system, upgraded to 1.8.4.4 and will give it another shot and see what happens. Would've helped if I'd kept the system as it was so people could help me figure out what was going on, but the fact that it stopped responding to commands which were trying to kill the hung channels, reloading configs, or even trying to stop the system wouldn't work is bizarre. I hope the developers pay attention to that. Developers need some data to work with :-( -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian / Sparc taking up 95%+ CPU with No calls on the system
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Tzafrir Cohen tzafrir.co...@xorcom.comwrote: On Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 06:15:26AM -0400, A E [Gmail] wrote: On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:21 AM, Tzafrir Cohen tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 08:30:52PM -0400, A E [Gmail] wrote: hello people, I am running v1.8.4.2 on debian squeeze on a sparc platform...and for some reason I have noticed that only after a few test calls, the asterisk process is running between 95% - 99.9% CPU when there's absolutely nothing on the system. This is a clean Asterisk system in an internal network with nothing else on it with no calls on it but it's still sitting with 96% CPU. I'm not a developer so not that ept with using debug tools etc to figure out why it's doing that. Could anyone please tell me how I can figure out why it's doing this and/or help debug this. Makes no sense for it to be using CPU with nothing happening on the system The first thing I'd do is run 'top', press shift H, and see what is/are the offending thread(s). Is it a single thread? Two? More? Is it all user time? Much of it is system time? If you strace the PID of the top thread (strace -p PID), what do you see? Hi Tzafrir, thanks for the comments and suggestions. So I'd done all of that and what I'd found was - After I'd done Shift-h, There was only one / single thread that was taking all of the CPU - 33% was Sser and 66% was System times - when I'd run an strace on the PID of the offending thread it just rolled some message past my screen which I couldn't capture and can't remember what it said :( Just press ctrl-c . haha I did that but since that I did a 100 other things in my ssh window which is only buffered for 5000 lines and those messages have gone past. Anyway I've killed that process, updated the packages the system, upgraded to 1.8.4.4 and will give it another shot and see what happens. Would've helped if I'd kept the system as it was so people could help me figure out what was going on, but the fact that it stopped responding to commands which were trying to kill the hung channels, reloading configs, or even trying to stop the system wouldn't work is bizarre. I hope the developers pay attention to that. Developers need some data to work with :-( Haha of course. Although I have a feeling it'll happen again as this is the 2nd time this has happened. Will keep the system in that state till we can try and resolve this and capture enough info. if I had better memory, I'd have actually remembered what the message was, but anyway, what I was trying to say was that it's much more than just taking up all the CPU tells me that some thread has just gone loco. But the fact the CLI and AMI commands become unresponsive when trying to kill these zombie channels or trying to do a core reload or core stop now etc. tells me that this is a bigger issue than just some thread gone nuts and the channels being hung -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian / Sparc taking up 95%+ CPU with No calls on the system
On Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 07:11:26AM -0400, A E [Gmail] wrote: On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Tzafrir Cohen tzafrir.co...@xorcom.comwrote: On Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 06:15:26AM -0400, A E [Gmail] wrote: - when I'd run an strace on the PID of the offending thread it just rolled some message past my screen which I couldn't capture and can't remember what it said :( Just press ctrl-c . haha I did that but since that I did a 100 other things in my ssh window which is only buffered for 5000 lines and those messages have gone past. If the process / thread is in a loop, the messages tend to repeat themselves. Also: anything interesting in /var/log/asterisk/messages ? -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian / Sparc taking up 95%+ CPU with No calls on the system
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Tzafrir Cohen tzafrir.co...@xorcom.comwrote: On Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 07:11:26AM -0400, A E [Gmail] wrote: On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Tzafrir Cohen tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 06:15:26AM -0400, A E [Gmail] wrote: - when I'd run an strace on the PID of the offending thread it just rolled some message past my screen which I couldn't capture and can't remember what it said :( Just press ctrl-c . haha I did that but since that I did a 100 other things in my ssh window which is only buffered for 5000 lines and those messages have gone past. If the process / thread is in a loop, the messages tend to repeat themselves. Also: anything interesting in /var/log/asterisk/messages ? Yup, it surely was in some funky loop...and I wouldn't be surprised if it was looping to check if the channels were hungup or not and ended up taking up the entire CPUI should've tried to just kill that thread with its PID and seen if the operation returns to normal. No, unfortunately nothing interesting found in the logs, other than the indication that when I tried to reload using core reload it was actually loading the configs even though it didn't show anything on the CLI. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian / Sparc taking up 95%+ CPU with No calls on the system
hello people, I am running v1.8.4.2 on debian squeeze on a sparc platform...and for some reason I have noticed that only after a few test calls, the asterisk process is running between 95% - 99.9% CPU when there's absolutely nothing on the system. This is a clean Asterisk system in an internal network with nothing else on it with no calls on it but it's still sitting with 96% CPU. I'm not a developer so not that ept with using debug tools etc to figure out why it's doing that. Could anyone please tell me how I can figure out why it's doing this and/or help debug this. Makes no sense for it to be using CPU with nothing happening on the system Thanks -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian / Sparc taking up 95%+ CPU with No calls on the system
On the CLI write: sip show channels If there are lots of bye channels you have the same problem than me. I've tried waiting with the call generator -sipp- and channels finished when there are a few. But they're not ending faster enough when I send lots of concurrent calls. Elder 2011/7/5, A E [Gmail] all.efor...@gmail.com: hello people, I am running v1.8.4.2 on debian squeeze on a sparc platform...and for some reason I have noticed that only after a few test calls, the asterisk process is running between 95% - 99.9% CPU when there's absolutely nothing on the system. This is a clean Asterisk system in an internal network with nothing else on it with no calls on it but it's still sitting with 96% CPU. I'm not a developer so not that ept with using debug tools etc to figure out why it's doing that. Could anyone please tell me how I can figure out why it's doing this and/or help debug this. Makes no sense for it to be using CPU with nothing happening on the system Thanks -- Enviado desde mi dispositivo móvil -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian / Sparc taking up 95%+ CPU with No calls on the system
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Daniel - Asterisk earohua...@gmail.comwrote: On the CLI write: sip show channels If there are lots of bye channels you have the same problem than me. I've tried waiting with the call generator -sipp- and channels finished when there are a few. But they're not ending faster enough when I send lots of concurrent calls. Elder Hi, thanks for the response. yeah I'd checked that before and I only have 2 dialogs which seem to be part of the same call that are just sitting there and I can't seem to get them to hang up by typing channel request hangup all . I even tried sending a Hangup by connecting on the AMI but that doesn't seem to be doing anything either. So this channel is sitting there in the 'BYE' state. Is there anyway of clearing them without having to reload/restart Asterisk? I want to see if that's the cause of the CPU usage and I'll lose that if I restart Asterisk. Thanks 2011/7/5, A E [Gmail] all.efor...@gmail.com: hello people, I am running v1.8.4.2 on debian squeeze on a sparc platform...and for some reason I have noticed that only after a few test calls, the asterisk process is running between 95% - 99.9% CPU when there's absolutely nothing on the system. This is a clean Asterisk system in an internal network with nothing else on it with no calls on it but it's still sitting with 96% CPU. I'm not a developer so not that ept with using debug tools etc to figure out why it's doing that. Could anyone please tell me how I can figure out why it's doing this and/or help debug this. Makes no sense for it to be using CPU with nothing happening on the system Thanks -- Enviado desde mi dispositivo móvil -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian / Sparc taking up 95%+ CPU with No calls on the system
You have to provide channel ID to command like channel request hangup SIP/12316156-sad4d46a5. From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of A E [Gmail] Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 9:50 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian / Sparc taking up 95%+ CPU with No calls on the system On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Daniel - Asterisk earohua...@gmail.com wrote: On the CLI write: sip show channels If there are lots of bye channels you have the same problem than me. I've tried waiting with the call generator -sipp- and channels finished when there are a few. But they're not ending faster enough when I send lots of concurrent calls. Elder Hi, thanks for the response. yeah I'd checked that before and I only have 2 dialogs which seem to be part of the same call that are just sitting there and I can't seem to get them to hang up by typing channel request hangup all . I even tried sending a Hangup by connecting on the AMI but that doesn't seem to be doing anything either. So this channel is sitting there in the 'BYE' state. Is there anyway of clearing them without having to reload/restart Asterisk? I want to see if that's the cause of the CPU usage and I'll lose that if I restart Asterisk. Thanks 2011/7/5, A E [Gmail] all.efor...@gmail.com: hello people, I am running v1.8.4.2 on debian squeeze on a sparc platform...and for some reason I have noticed that only after a few test calls, the asterisk process is running between 95% - 99.9% CPU when there's absolutely nothing on the system. This is a clean Asterisk system in an internal network with nothing else on it with no calls on it but it's still sitting with 96% CPU. I'm not a developer so not that ept with using debug tools etc to figure out why it's doing that. Could anyone please tell me how I can figure out why it's doing this and/or help debug this. Makes no sense for it to be using CPU with nothing happening on the system Thanks -- Enviado desde mi dispositivo móvil -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian / Sparc taking up 95%+ CPU with No calls on the system
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:49 AM, Faisal Hanif fai...@vopium.com wrote: You have to provide channel ID to command like “channel request hangup SIP/12316156-sad4d46a5”. ** Thanks, but all is also a valid keyword according to the documentation. I think there are some bugs associated with hung channels. Nothing seems to work when a channel is hung in that state. hanging up is not working, nor the AMI is working in providing status etc. and when I'm on the CLI, even core stop now doesn't work and it hands the CLI. Something is majorly wrong. I'm going to upgrade the version to 1.8.4.4 and see what happens ** *From:* asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of *A E [Gmail] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2011 9:50 AM *To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian / Sparc taking up 95%+ CPU with No calls on the system ** ** ** ** On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Daniel - Asterisk earohua...@gmail.com wrote: On the CLI write: sip show channels If there are lots of bye channels you have the same problem than me. I've tried waiting with the call generator -sipp- and channels finished when there are a few. But they're not ending faster enough when I send lots of concurrent calls. Elder Hi, thanks for the response. yeah I'd checked that before and I only have 2 dialogs which seem to be part of the same call that are just sitting there and I can't seem to get them to hang up by typing channel request hangup all . I even tried sending a Hangup by connecting on the AMI but that doesn't seem to be doing anything either. So this channel is sitting there in the 'BYE' state. Is there anyway of clearing them without having to reload/restart Asterisk? I want to see if that's the cause of the CPU usage and I'll lose that if I restart Asterisk. Thanks ** ** 2011/7/5, A E [Gmail] all.efor...@gmail.com: hello people, I am running v1.8.4.2 on debian squeeze on a sparc platform...and for some reason I have noticed that only after a few test calls, the asterisk process is running between 95% - 99.9% CPU when there's absolutely nothing on the system. This is a clean Asterisk system in an internal network with nothing else on it with no calls on it but it's still sitting with 96% CPU. I'm not a developer so not that ept with using debug tools etc to figure out why it's doing that. Could anyone please tell me how I can figure out why it's doing this and/or help debug this. Makes no sense for it to be using CPU with nothing happening on the system Thanks -- Enviado desde mi dispositivo móvil -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ** ** -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Lenny with timerfd
Thanks Dave. Sounds like a man who's not had his hand soaking in ivory liquid and been through the toils and tortures of various upgrades over the years. Very insightful though. Goof thing this discussion ensued as I am learning a lot about what to be wary of not least of all, the truth about testing, RC and stable distribution. Which is why, despite eating humble pie re: the RC vs Stable discussion, I was going to wait till the status on RC changes to stable and maybe even help out a bit in the upgrade path testing. Good thing is that I don't necessarily need to muck around with the Production machines at the moment as all development is being done in the Lab, and some of that is in VMs, so I have the power of snapshots with me along with physical access to machines should anything break badly. The production machines are sitting 10,000 miles away so the best I have is console access to them. Speaking of in-place upgrades, does adding the Squeeze repo. in the sources.lst conf and running 'aptitude safe-upgrade/full-upgrade' automaticaly begins the upgrade or is there more to it? You mentioned about backing up configs and data etc so it doesn't sound like it's that simple eh? -- pretty easy... Lenny to Squeeze (5.0 to 6.0 for the mortals out there..) 1. aptitude update 2. aptitude upgrade 3. aptitude clean 4. sed -i 's/lenny/squeez/g' /etc/apt/sources.list 5. aptitude update 6. aptitude install apt dpkg aptitude 7. aptitude full-upgrade 8. aptitude clean 9. init 6 10. have a lovely beverage and relax... :) ~~~ Andrew lathama Latham lath...@gmail.com ~~~ -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Lenny with timerfd
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:59 AM, Andrew Latham lath...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Dave. Sounds like a man who's not had his hand soaking in ivory liquid and been through the toils and tortures of various upgrades over the years. Very insightful though. Goof thing this discussion ensued as I am learning a lot about what to be wary of not least of all, the truth about testing, RC and stable distribution. Which is why, despite eating humble pie re: the RC vs Stable discussion, I was going to wait till the status on RC changes to stable and maybe even help out a bit in the upgrade path testing. Good thing is that I don't necessarily need to muck around with the Production machines at the moment as all development is being done in the Lab, and some of that is in VMs, so I have the power of snapshots with me along with physical access to machines should anything break badly. The production machines are sitting 10,000 miles away so the best I have is console access to them. Speaking of in-place upgrades, does adding the Squeeze repo. in the sources.lst conf and running 'aptitude safe-upgrade/full-upgrade' automaticaly begins the upgrade or is there more to it? You mentioned about backing up configs and data etc so it doesn't sound like it's that simple eh? -- pretty easy... Lenny to Squeeze (5.0 to 6.0 for the mortals out there..) 1. aptitude update 2. aptitude upgrade 3. aptitude clean 4. sed -i 's/lenny/squeez/g' /etc/apt/sources.list 5. aptitude update 6. aptitude install apt dpkg aptitude 7. aptitude full-upgrade 8. aptitude clean 9. init 6 10. have a lovely beverage and relax... :) 1. A cold-stone creamery hot chocolate satchet (70 cal) 2. 2 tbps of fat free half-and half 3. 1 tbsp of instant coffee 4. 1.5 packet of splenda 5. Hot water makes an amazingly cozy low-cal beverage esp. when it's snowing outside like it is in NYC right now :) Thanks for that How-To Andrew. Appreciate it. Will have this going on, on one of the VMs with Lenny and keep up with both side by side to see if both are equally stable before I put one of them in production. Cheers, \R -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Lenny with timerfd
On Mon, 2011-01-24 at 01:09 -0500, RR wrote: On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Paul Belanger pabelan...@digium.com wrote: On 11-01-23 10:24 PM, RR wrote: email from Kevin Flemming talking about =2.6.27 so thought I'd ask esp. coz I have 2.6.26-2 yet I don't think I have timerfd on my machine...and I see, the following If you read CHANGES, you will also see you kernel 2.6.25+ *and* glibc 2.8+. Lenny ships with 2.7-1 yep, had read that too, just very new to debian so was fearing I'll have to do a manual install / upgrade of glibcI guess that's what I have to do :( will figure out how to do that. Just an FYI. Be sure to test it to a non production system, trying to replace glibc from source is not an easy task. *MANY* things need tweaking and lots of apps can break with the wrong glibc version. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Lenny with timerfd
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 3:11 AM, Stelios Koroneos skoron...@digital-opsis.com wrote: On Mon, 2011-01-24 at 01:09 -0500, RR wrote: On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Paul Belanger pabelan...@digium.com wrote: On 11-01-23 10:24 PM, RR wrote: email from Kevin Flemming talking about =2.6.27 so thought I'd ask esp. coz I have 2.6.26-2 yet I don't think I have timerfd on my machine...and I see, the following If you read CHANGES, you will also see you kernel 2.6.25+ *and* glibc 2.8+. Lenny ships with 2.7-1 yep, had read that too, just very new to debian so was fearing I'll have to do a manual install / upgrade of glibcI guess that's what I have to do :( will figure out how to do that. Just an FYI. Be sure to test it to a non production system, trying to replace glibc from source is not an easy task. *MANY* things need tweaking and lots of apps can break with the wrong glibc version. Thanks for the warning Stelios. Yes, This is a VM which I snapshot every step of the way to revert back to if I break something too bad. it's a lot easier to just revert to snapshot in 20 secs, then trying to fix whatever broke :) -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Lenny with timerfd
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 02:58:45AM -0500, RR wrote: In the meantime, does anyone have a nice way to update a stable/stock lenny installation with the updated glibc as well as the latest kernel At this point the easiest option will be to upgrade to squeeze. R -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Lenny with timerfd
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:06 AM, Roger Burton West ro...@firedrake.orgwrote: On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 02:58:45AM -0500, RR wrote: In the meantime, does anyone have a nice way to update a stable/stock lenny installation with the updated glibc as well as the latest kernel At this point the easiest option will be to upgrade to squeeze. R Umm yeah that might not be a smart thing to do since eventually all of this needs to run in a production environment and Squeeze is still in a RC mode. Would be nice if I could go to it though but don't think it'll be that smart esp. all other software that needs to work along with it might break too...who knows -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Lenny with timerfd
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:56 AM, RR ranjt...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:06 AM, Roger Burton West ro...@firedrake.orgwrote: On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 02:58:45AM -0500, RR wrote: In the meantime, does anyone have a nice way to update a stable/stock lenny installation with the updated glibc as well as the latest kernel At this point the easiest option will be to upgrade to squeeze. R Umm yeah that might not be a smart thing to do since eventually all of this needs to run in a production environment and Squeeze is still in a RC mode. Would be nice if I could go to it though but don't think it'll be that smart esp. all other software that needs to work along with it might break too...who knows Wow, alright, after an all-nighter, I was able to get timerfd.so compiled in Asterisk 1.8.2.2 under Debian Lenny 5.0.7 with Kernel 2.6.26-2-amd64. Of course, due to the glibc requirement of 2.8+, a lot of dodgey upgrades had to be performed. I have no idea how stable this is going to be in production but I am going to write a quick How-To and stick it on the Wiki if someone can point me to the correct location this should go to. A lot of components needs to get upgraded in the correct order to have this work well, but it might save someone else the time and effort. Will respond to this email again, with the link to the Wiki page once I am done with the HowTo and people tell me where it needs to go. Cheers, \RR -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Lenny with timerfd
On 01/24/2011 07:29 AM, RR wrote: On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:56 AM, RR ranjt...@gmail.com mailto:ranjt...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:06 AM, Roger Burton West ro...@firedrake.org mailto:ro...@firedrake.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 02:58:45AM -0500, RR wrote: In the meantime, does anyone have a nice way to update a stable/stock lenny installation with the updated glibc as well as the latest kernel At this point the easiest option will be to upgrade to squeeze. R Umm yeah that might not be a smart thing to do since eventually all of this needs to run in a production environment and Squeeze is still in a RC mode. Would be nice if I could go to it though but don't think it'll be that smart esp. all other software that needs to work along with it might break too...who knows This a statement we hear from people periodically that just confuses me... they say they can't update to an 'RC' release of something (Linux distro, Asterisk, etc.) because they need to run in production mode, but they're willing to consider replacing something as fundamental as the Linux kernel (a bit scary) or glibc (very scary) instead. -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA skype: kpfleming | jabber: kflem...@digium.com Check us out at www.digium.com www.asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Lenny with timerfd
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Kevin P. Fleming kpflem...@digium.comwrote:
On 01/24/2011 07:29 AM, RR wrote:
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:56 AM, RR ranjt...@gmail.com
mailto:ranjt...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:06 AM, Roger Burton West
ro...@firedrake.org mailto:ro...@firedrake.org wrote:
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 02:58:45AM -0500, RR wrote:
In the meantime, does anyone have a nice way to update a
stable/stock lenny
installation with the updated glibc as well as the latest kernel
At this point the easiest option will be to upgrade to squeeze.
R
Umm yeah that might not be a smart thing to do since eventually all
of this needs to run in a production environment and Squeeze is
still in a RC mode. Would be nice if I could go to it though but
don't think it'll be that smart esp. all other software that needs
to work along with it might break too...who knows
This a statement we hear from people periodically that just confuses me...
they say they can't update to an 'RC' release of something (Linux distro,
Asterisk, etc.) because they need to run in production mode, but they're
willing to consider replacing something as fundamental as the Linux kernel
(a bit scary) or glibc (very scary) instead.
haha touché Kevin :) Mate, the response to that is one word: Ignorance :)
people like me, who're not developers nor experts of the platform have
absolutely no clue what glibc actually does or the impact it actually has.
Nor do I know, as a user, how stable Squeeze RC2 really is at this stage of
its development. If I had more people in the community say that they're
running it in production, then maybe I'll just believe them and start
working with Squeeze directly instead of wasting my time like I did trying
to have it compiled in Lenny. I just believed when the developers of Debian
say that Squeeze RC2 is in testing and Lenny is stable and decide that
it's probably not a good idea to run RC2 in production. I guess part of the
thinking was that other software besides {*} that needs to run on this
machine may not even build or run or be stable on Squeeze RC till the
authors/users of that other software state that it's been tested with it and
it's stable or even builds on it. So, people like me believe that if I
upgrade ALL components that depend on glibc and that glibc depends on to the
current version, then we'll be ok but we wouldn't have touched anything else
in the system, not realising or understanding that satsisfying dependencies
doesn't mean anything and something somewhere could just break because of
this unsolicited upgrade thus making the system more unstable. I have really
no explanation for you as to why people (incl. myself) say these things
other than just lack of insight and knowledge about the intricacies of
things like glibc and the impact it can have on the stability of the system
when upgraded out of context. *sigh* :(
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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Lenny with timerfd
In the meantime, does anyone have a nice way to update a stable/stock lenny installation with the updated glibc as well as the latest kernel Scary and risky, as others have noted! There is an official backports release kit associated with Debian, which contains newer versions of many packages which have been back-ported to be mostly-drop-in-compatible with current Debian stable distribution. You can find information about it at http://backports.debian.org/ However, it does not appear to contain an updated release of glibc - likely for the reasons that other folks have alluded to (the stability risks outweigh the benefits). I suspect that unless you're willing to put a lot of blood, sweat, tears, and toil into the effort of getting the newer glibc into Lenny, you're either going to have to switch to the testing distribution (Squeeze) or wait until Squeeze is officially released as the new stable distribution -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Lenny with timerfd
On 01/24/2011 12:46 PM, RR wrote:
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Kevin P. Fleming kpflem...@digium.com
mailto:kpflem...@digium.com wrote:
On 01/24/2011 07:29 AM, RR wrote:
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:56 AM, RR ranjt...@gmail.com
mailto:ranjt...@gmail.com
mailto:ranjt...@gmail.com mailto:ranjt...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:06 AM, Roger Burton West
ro...@firedrake.org mailto:ro...@firedrake.org
mailto:ro...@firedrake.org mailto:ro...@firedrake.org wrote:
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 02:58:45AM -0500, RR wrote:
In the meantime, does anyone have a nice way to update a
stable/stock lenny
installation with the updated glibc as well as the latest kernel
At this point the easiest option will be to upgrade to
squeeze.
R
Umm yeah that might not be a smart thing to do since
eventually all
of this needs to run in a production environment and Squeeze is
still in a RC mode. Would be nice if I could go to it though but
don't think it'll be that smart esp. all other software that
needs
to work along with it might break too...who knows
This a statement we hear from people periodically that just confuses
me... they say they can't update to an 'RC' release of something
(Linux distro, Asterisk, etc.) because they need to run in
production mode, but they're willing to consider replacing something
as fundamental as the Linux kernel (a bit scary) or glibc (very
scary) instead.
haha touché Kevin :) Mate, the response to that is one word: Ignorance
:) people like me, who're not developers nor experts of the platform
have absolutely no clue what glibc actually does or the impact it
actually has. Nor do I know, as a user, how stable Squeeze RC2 really is
at this stage of its development. If I had more people in the community
say that they're running it in production, then maybe I'll just believe
them and start working with Squeeze directly instead of wasting my time
like I did trying to have it compiled in Lenny. I just believed when the
developers of Debian say that Squeeze RC2 is in testing and Lenny is
stable and decide that it's probably not a good idea to run RC2 in
production. I guess part of the thinking was that other software
besides {*} that needs to run on this machine may not even build
or run or be stable on Squeeze RC till the authors/users of that other
software state that it's been tested with it and it's stable or even
builds on it. So, people like me believe that if I upgrade ALL
components that depend on glibc and that glibc depends on to the current
version, then we'll be ok but we wouldn't have touched anything else in
the system, not realising or understanding that satsisfying dependencies
doesn't mean anything and something somewhere could just break because
of this unsolicited upgrade thus making the system more unstable. I have
really no explanation for you as to why people (incl. myself) say these
things other than just lack of insight and knowledge about the
intricacies of things like glibc and the impact it can have on the
stability of the system when upgraded out of context. *sigh* :(
And you've made my point: You chose a specific version of Debian to run,
which you are happy running in 'production'. Given that you have made
that choice, you can *only* install packages that distribution provides
on your system. Any other packages you install are not part of that
version, and thus have not gone through the same testing/qualification
processes (whatever they may be). Discussing installation of packages
(any packages) from a later Debian release, or installation of a package
from source that overwrites the Debian package, seems totally
inconsistent with being 'in production', no matter how small or large
the package may be. Each such decision must be thoroughly researched and
the possible ramifications understood before any changes are made, so as
to keep the system as stable as possible.
In essence, this is somewhat like buying a car with a high efficiency
powertrain because you want to save fuel, but then later complaining
that it doesn't accelerate as fast as you'd like... so you make plans to
replace the engine. Sure, you can do it, but you've defeated the purpose
of the choice you made in the first place :-)
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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Lenny with timerfd
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Kevin P. Fleming kpflem...@digium.comwrote:
On 01/24/2011 12:46 PM, RR wrote:
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Kevin P. Fleming kpflem...@digium.com
mailto:kpflem...@digium.com wrote:
On 01/24/2011 07:29 AM, RR wrote:
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:56 AM, RR ranjt...@gmail.com
mailto:ranjt...@gmail.com
mailto:ranjt...@gmail.com mailto:ranjt...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:06 AM, Roger Burton West
ro...@firedrake.org mailto:ro...@firedrake.org
mailto:ro...@firedrake.org mailto:ro...@firedrake.org
wrote:
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 02:58:45AM -0500, RR wrote:
In the meantime, does anyone have a nice way to update a
stable/stock lenny
installation with the updated glibc as well as the latest kernel
At this point the easiest option will be to upgrade to
squeeze.
R
Umm yeah that might not be a smart thing to do since
eventually all
of this needs to run in a production environment and Squeeze is
still in a RC mode. Would be nice if I could go to it though
but
don't think it'll be that smart esp. all other software that
needs
to work along with it might break too...who knows
This a statement we hear from people periodically that just confuses
me... they say they can't update to an 'RC' release of something
(Linux distro, Asterisk, etc.) because they need to run in
production mode, but they're willing to consider replacing something
as fundamental as the Linux kernel (a bit scary) or glibc (very
scary) instead.
haha touché Kevin :) Mate, the response to that is one word: Ignorance
:) people like me, who're not developers nor experts of the platform
have absolutely no clue what glibc actually does or the impact it
actually has. Nor do I know, as a user, how stable Squeeze RC2 really is
at this stage of its development. If I had more people in the community
say that they're running it in production, then maybe I'll just believe
them and start working with Squeeze directly instead of wasting my time
like I did trying to have it compiled in Lenny. I just believed when the
developers of Debian say that Squeeze RC2 is in testing and Lenny is
stable and decide that it's probably not a good idea to run RC2 in
production. I guess part of the thinking was that other software
besides {*} that needs to run on this machine may not even build
or run or be stable on Squeeze RC till the authors/users of that other
software state that it's been tested with it and it's stable or even
builds on it. So, people like me believe that if I upgrade ALL
components that depend on glibc and that glibc depends on to the current
version, then we'll be ok but we wouldn't have touched anything else in
the system, not realising or understanding that satsisfying dependencies
doesn't mean anything and something somewhere could just break because
of this unsolicited upgrade thus making the system more unstable. I have
really no explanation for you as to why people (incl. myself) say these
things other than just lack of insight and knowledge about the
intricacies of things like glibc and the impact it can have on the
stability of the system when upgraded out of context. *sigh* :(
And you've made my point: You chose a specific version of Debian to run,
which you are happy running in 'production'. Given that you have made that
choice, you can *only* install packages that distribution provides on your
system. Any other packages you install are not part of that version, and
thus have not gone through the same testing/qualification processes
(whatever they may be). Discussing installation of packages (any packages)
from a later Debian release, or installation of a package from source that
overwrites the Debian package, seems totally inconsistent with being 'in
production', no matter how small or large the package may be. Each such
decision must be thoroughly researched and the possible ramifications
understood before any changes are made, so as to keep the system as stable
as possible.
In essence, this is somewhat like buying a car with a high efficiency
powertrain because you want to save fuel, but then later complaining that it
doesn't accelerate as fast as you'd like... so you make plans to replace the
engine. Sure, you can do it, but you've defeated the purpose of the choice
you made in the first place :-)
I know right? I wish I could have those hours of the night back that I
wasted in trying to get it working on Lenny ... wish I'd done some homework
and realised that all sorts of Squeeze installation ISOs are in fact
available for Sparc. I thought currently only Lenny was available for Sparc
so needed to stick with it. Oh well, that's a lesson for me right there. But
hopefully not all was a wasted effort,
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Lenny with timerfd
I know this is an {*} list but does anyone know if simply adding the Squeeze
repository to my sources.lst and running an 'aptitude
upgrade/safe-upgrade/full-upgrade will just upgrade Lenny - Squeeze
without me having to rebuild the system from scratch?
In my experience: you're likely to run into a few things which
need some amount of manual fiddling, after an upgrade of this sort,
but it's usually quite manageable.
The Debian people seem to be very good about making sure that
stable-version-to-stable-version upgrades go smoothly... the
process isn't perfect (from what I've seen) but it's usually
quite close. The upgrade path is usually tested out quite well
before the release team throws The Big Switch, and there normally
are good release notes which describe the corner cases which may
need manual intervention.
I have several systems which have been through multiple major
Debian upgrades, without having to be slagged down and rebuilt
from the ground up. That's better than I ever achieved with (e.g.)
Red Hat, which (in my experience) really didn't take at all well to
in-place upgrades... I usually had to do a fresh install and then
port my personal files over.
Things may not be as smooth when jumping from Stable to Testing,
precisely because this isn't an official-release pathway, and
the packages in Testing are usually in somewhat of a state of
flux. Even upgrades *within* the Testing distribution can leave
you with a system which doesn't fly right... this isn't common but
it does happen. For example, a recent upgrade within Stable pulled
a bunch of the firmware files out of the kernel package and moved
them to a separate non-free package - if I hadn't noticed an error
message during RAMdisk rebuilt, my next boot would have left me
with a non-functioning wired Ethernet adapter.
If you decide to follow this route, follow the Debian instructions
for upgrading... back up your package configurations, and (I suggest)
everything in the /etc/ directory hierarchy, as well as all of your
personal files. This will give you a much better chance to invoke
the spirit of the ancient pagan god DoOver, if something goes wrong
during the upgrade.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Lenny with timerfd
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Dave Platt dpl...@radagast.org wrote:
I know this is an {*} list but does anyone know if simply adding the
Squeeze
repository to my sources.lst and running an 'aptitude
upgrade/safe-upgrade/full-upgrade will just upgrade Lenny - Squeeze
without me having to rebuild the system from scratch?
In my experience: you're likely to run into a few things which
need some amount of manual fiddling, after an upgrade of this sort,
but it's usually quite manageable.
The Debian people seem to be very good about making sure that
stable-version-to-stable-version upgrades go smoothly... the
process isn't perfect (from what I've seen) but it's usually
quite close. The upgrade path is usually tested out quite well
before the release team throws The Big Switch, and there normally
are good release notes which describe the corner cases which may
need manual intervention.
I have several systems which have been through multiple major
Debian upgrades, without having to be slagged down and rebuilt
from the ground up. That's better than I ever achieved with (e.g.)
Red Hat, which (in my experience) really didn't take at all well to
in-place upgrades... I usually had to do a fresh install and then
port my personal files over.
Things may not be as smooth when jumping from Stable to Testing,
precisely because this isn't an official-release pathway, and
the packages in Testing are usually in somewhat of a state of
flux. Even upgrades *within* the Testing distribution can leave
you with a system which doesn't fly right... this isn't common but
it does happen. For example, a recent upgrade within Stable pulled
a bunch of the firmware files out of the kernel package and moved
them to a separate non-free package - if I hadn't noticed an error
message during RAMdisk rebuilt, my next boot would have left me
with a non-functioning wired Ethernet adapter.
If you decide to follow this route, follow the Debian instructions
for upgrading... back up your package configurations, and (I suggest)
everything in the /etc/ directory hierarchy, as well as all of your
personal files. This will give you a much better chance to invoke
the spirit of the ancient pagan god DoOver, if something goes wrong
during the upgrade.
Thanks Dave. Sounds like a man who's not had his hand soaking in ivory
liquid and been through the toils and tortures of various upgrades over the
years. Very insightful though. Goof thing this discussion ensued as I am
learning a lot about what to be wary of not least of all, the truth about
testing, RC and stable distribution. Which is why, despite eating humble
pie re: the RC vs Stable discussion, I was going to wait till the status on
RC changes to stable and maybe even help out a bit in the upgrade path
testing. Good thing is that I don't necessarily need to muck around with the
Production machines at the moment as all development is being done in the
Lab, and some of that is in VMs, so I have the power of snapshots with me
along with physical access to machines should anything break badly. The
production machines are sitting 10,000 miles away so the best I have is
console access to them.
Speaking of in-place upgrades, does adding the Squeeze repo. in the
sources.lst conf and running 'aptitude safe-upgrade/full-upgrade'
automaticaly begins the upgrade or is there more to it? You mentioned about
backing up configs and data etc so it doesn't sound like it's that simple
eh?
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[asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Lenny with timerfd
Hello All, I'm sure this has been talked about and based on some searching of archives, I'd discovered that to be able to use timerfd, one needs to have a kernel version =2.6.27? Is this true? If yes, then is there anyone who's got it working in Lenny 5.0.7? Do I need to download and build the linux kernel (currently at 2.6.37) from scratch and get access to the TimerFD source? Should I even bother with it for app_confBridge or does pthread work well enough? Thanks \RR -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Lenny with timerfd
On 11-01-23 10:01 PM, RR wrote: I'm sure this has been talked about and based on some searching of archives, I'd discovered that to be able to use timerfd, one needs to have a kernel version =2.6.27? Is this true? Kernel version 2.6.25 or newer, as documented in CHANGES. -- Paul Belanger Digium, Inc. | Software Developer twitter: pabelanger | IRC: pabelanger (Freenode) Check us out at: http://digium.com http://asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Lenny with timerfd
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Paul Belanger pabelan...@digium.comwrote: On 11-01-23 10:01 PM, RR wrote: I'm sure this has been talked about and based on some searching of archives, I'd discovered that to be able to use timerfd, one needs to have a kernel version =2.6.27? Is this true? Kernel version 2.6.25 or newer, as documented in CHANGES. Thanks Paul, yes I'd read that in the CHANGES doc. But I saw some otlder email from Kevin Flemming talking about =2.6.27 so thought I'd ask esp. coz I have 2.6.26-2 yet I don't think I have timerfd on my machine...and I see, the following in config.log configure:27550: checking for timerfd support configure:27584: gcc -c -g -O2 conftest.c 5 conftest.c:243:25: error: sys/timerfd.h: No such file or directory conftest.c: In function 'main': conftest.c:247: error: 'NULL' undeclared (first use in this function) conftest.c:247: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once conftest.c:247: error: for each function it appears in.) # uname -r 2.6.26-2-amd64 Thanks \RR -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Lenny with timerfd
On 11-01-23 10:24 PM, RR wrote: email from Kevin Flemming talking about =2.6.27 so thought I'd ask esp. coz I have 2.6.26-2 yet I don't think I have timerfd on my machine...and I see, the following If you read CHANGES, you will also see you kernel 2.6.25+ *and* glibc 2.8+. Lenny ships with 2.7-1 -- Paul Belanger Digium, Inc. | Software Developer twitter: pabelanger | IRC: pabelanger (Freenode) Check us out at: http://digium.com http://asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Lenny with timerfd
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Paul Belanger pabelan...@digium.comwrote: On 11-01-23 10:24 PM, RR wrote: email from Kevin Flemming talking about =2.6.27 so thought I'd ask esp. coz I have 2.6.26-2 yet I don't think I have timerfd on my machine...and I see, the following If you read CHANGES, you will also see you kernel 2.6.25+ *and* glibc 2.8+. Lenny ships with 2.7-1 yep, had read that too, just very new to debian so was fearing I'll have to do a manual install / upgrade of glibcI guess that's what I have to do :( will figure out how to do that. Thanks \R -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Lenny with timerfd
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Paul Belanger pabelan...@digium.comwrote: On 11-01-23 10:24 PM, RR wrote: email from Kevin Flemming talking about =2.6.27 so thought I'd ask esp. coz I have 2.6.26-2 yet I don't think I have timerfd on my machine...and I see, the following If you read CHANGES, you will also see you kernel 2.6.25+ *and* glibc 2.8+. Lenny ships with 2.7-1 In the meantime, does anyone have a nice way to update a stable/stock lenny installation with the updated glibc as well as the latest kernel (this obv. is not necessary, but couldn't hurt to have the latest :). Sorry for asking help like a bum, but I have spent an hour messing around with downloading the .deb file for the libc6 and figuring out how to install it and in turn ended up messing up my environment. Good thing I had snapshot from before, that I could restore and get back to stock. I'm a total newbie in debian so any help in some aptitude/dpkg magic to install the latest libc6 (glibc) with its dependencies on this system would be greatly appreciated :) -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.8 debian packages?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anyone know of any Asterisk 1.8 deb's available or when they might be included in backports or (hopefully) Squeeze? I can compile from source... but would much rather have a pre-packaged binary if one exists... Thanks, Stephen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkz/1NQACgkQ3sJXNEncx7gWWQCgzq0PDy7czLdujKyZTslsc8Ka /48AoLmEhQwMc1oMBCgqY0qxrhw6UsfE =ge4j -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Asterisk in Debian/Lenny without Junghanns.net support?
Hi! Asterisk in Debian/Lenny claims to be bristuffed, not? At least the the Debian patch tracking system shows the bristuff-patches: [1] http://bit.ly/bRRHe7 We have a QuadBRI-Card and recently needed support from Junghanns.net but they refused telling us there is no bristuff installed because of the show version output: *CLI show version Asterisk 1.4.21.2~dfsg-3+lenny1 built by pbuilder @ grnetbox on a x86_64 running Linux on 2009-12-14 19:04:56 UTC Why was the bristuffed line removed? Debian/Etch did have that postfix. After telling them Debian/Lenny IS bristuffed they said this installation method is not supported. Huh?! Does anyone has a comment on this? Greetings, - Darsha P.s.: X-Posted to debian-user and asterisk-user list. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk in Debian/Lenny without Junghanns.net support?
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 07:45:34PM +0200, Darshaka Pathirana wrote: Hi! Asterisk in Debian/Lenny claims to be bristuffed, not? At least the the Debian patch tracking system shows the bristuff-patches: [1] http://bit.ly/bRRHe7 We have a QuadBRI-Card and recently needed support from Junghanns.net but they refused telling us there is no bristuff installed because of the show version output: *CLI show version Asterisk 1.4.21.2~dfsg-3+lenny1 built by pbuilder @ grnetbox on a x86_64 running Linux on 2009-12-14 19:04:56 UTC Why was the bristuffed line removed? Debian/Etch did have that postfix. Simple answer: http://patch-tracker.debian.org/package/asterisk/1:1.4.21.2~dfsg-3+lenny1 So they are mostly bristuff. However they include other fixes (including some fixes that were never accepted by Junghanns due to bad communication). There are some other changes apart from the bristuff fixes and we can't simply call it bristuffed. After telling them Debian/Lenny IS bristuffed they said this installation method is not supported. Huh?! I cannot comment on that, for obvious reasons. P.s.: X-Posted to debian-user and asterisk-user list. (Answering both, as I'm on both, though I prefer asterisk-users) -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Etch
On Tuesday 24 April 2007 16:24, Stephen Bosch wrote: Well, I can't speak for anybody else, but I haven't had a problem with reproducing a source install. How about time? 2 minutes download+install, vs 10-20 minutes compilation. Then, how do you uninstall? How do you know which version do you have? Can you tell I'm a Gentoo user? :P I've got nothing against packages in principle, and my system has plenty of packages from the distribution, but I've yet to see a project as dynamic as Asterisk. What package maintainer could possibly keep up? And even gentoo uses packages. Sorry, but make install is something for developers - not users. The good thing about package managers, is that they tell you which package has been modified (a user changes a file, someone breaks into your machine and modifies a binary). In rpm it's done via rpm -qVa and in debian it's done by the command debsums. I am not sure about gentoo. On a developers users - I would say install from source. On a *users* list : install always from your distribution packages. When was the last time you installed X from sources? KDE? Mozilla? OpenOffice? Why is asterisk different? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Etch
Diego Iastrubni wrote: On Tuesday 24 April 2007 16:24, Stephen Bosch wrote: Well, I can't speak for anybody else, but I haven't had a problem with reproducing a source install. How about time? 2 minutes download+install, vs 10-20 minutes compilation. Then, how do you uninstall? How do you know which version do you have? If you don't have 10-20 minutes for compilation you have no business installing a PBX of any stripe, let alone Asterisk. And if you don't know how to get the version number of your Asterisk install... are you actually administering Asterisk installations for users? If you're new to this, fine, it's okay to prefer packages and not know how to determine the version number of your install -- but don't be handing out dangerous advice that makes people unnecessarily afraid of performing tasks vital to the successful administration of a piece of software. This isn't difficult, and there's plenty of help available. Can you tell I'm a Gentoo user? :P snip And even gentoo uses packages. Sorry, but make install is something for developers - not users. Yes, and I've already acknowledged I use mostly packages. The distinction with Gentoo is that the packages are source packages and are built at install time. Even so, for Asterisk, I *still* install from tarballs. If by user you mean somebody using a phone, then touché -- I don't expect my phone users to be doing 'make install' either. But we're talking about administering Asterisk, here. Seriously -- if you can't do a 'make install', then you should stay away from both Asterisk *and* Linux. This is not rocket science. It's like flying a plane on auto-pilot, or flying a plane without knowing how to taxi. Being able to steer in flight is not good enough -- if you can't land and take off, you have no business in the cockpit. To say that 'make install' is something 'for developers - not users' is beyond absurd. My Linux servers started working the day I stopped wasting my time with packages, idiotic package dependency chains and hardware incompatibilities with binaries and learned how to install from sources. And no, I'm not a developer (nor am I a rocket scientist, though I do think rockets are cool). The good thing about package managers, is that they tell you which package has been modified (a user changes a file, someone breaks into your machine and modifies a binary). In rpm it's done via rpm -qVa and in debian it's done by the command debsums. I am not sure about gentoo. Utilities from gentoolkit will do this in Gentoo. On a developers users - I would say install from source. On a *users* list : install always from your distribution packages. When was the last time you installed X from sources? KDE? Mozilla? OpenOffice? Why is asterisk different? Because X versions don't differ materially from minor version to minor version; because X isn't updated nearly as often Asterisk; because Asterisk, unlike X, doesn't take days to compile; because X, in general, isn't used to provide many users with a vital service -- if your X breaks, it's your tears, not the whole department's. Look, this is not the local Quake III server we're talking about -- this is phone service. The biggest mental hurdle that IT people have to get over is that it is absolutely *not* okay when the phones break, for any reason, for any period of time. This is a whole new world of user expectation. The PSTN people already get what I'm talking about. (They get too much undeserved shit from IT people who have no concept what a feat it is to run a network with 99.999% uptime. Say what you will about my local telco; I haven't lost a dialtone on my local phone in more than 5 years, and before that it had been 21. Respect the experienced PSTN technician -- he is worthy of it.) I'm sorry -- for Asterisk, I have to disagree with you categorically. The depth of support available for someone who has installed from original sources is deeper and the installation is guaranteed to be current. Updating a source install is also trivial; and if somebody needs help doing that, I'm happy to provide some advice in that department (I've updated Asterisk on a production machine twice in the last month, and it took less than 10 minutes both times -- the same can't be said for my X, KDE or Mozilla installations). -Stephen- ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Etch
Stephen Bosch wrote: Diego Iastrubni wrote: On Tuesday 24 April 2007 16:24, Stephen Bosch wrote: Well, I can't speak for anybody else, but I haven't had a problem with reproducing a source install. How about time? 2 minutes download+install, vs 10-20 minutes compilation. Then, how do you uninstall? How do you know which version do you have? If you don't have 10-20 minutes for compilation you have no business installing a PBX of any stripe, let alone Asterisk. And if you don't know how to get the version number of your Asterisk install... are you actually administering Asterisk installations for users? If you're new to this, fine, it's okay to prefer packages and not know how to determine the version number of your install -- but don't be handing out dangerous advice that makes people unnecessarily afraid of performing tasks vital to the successful administration of a piece of software. This isn't difficult, and there's plenty of help available. Can you tell I'm a Gentoo user? :P snip And even gentoo uses packages. Sorry, but make install is something for developers - not users. Yes, and I've already acknowledged I use mostly packages. The distinction with Gentoo is that the packages are source packages and are built at install time. Even so, for Asterisk, I *still* install from tarballs. If by user you mean somebody using a phone, then touché -- I don't expect my phone users to be doing 'make install' either. But we're talking about administering Asterisk, here. Seriously -- if you can't do a 'make install', then you should stay away from both Asterisk *and* Linux. This is not rocket science. It's like flying a plane on auto-pilot, or flying a plane without knowing how to taxi. Being able to steer in flight is not good enough -- if you can't land and take off, you have no business in the cockpit. To say that 'make install' is something 'for developers - not users' is beyond absurd. My Linux servers started working the day I stopped wasting my time with packages, idiotic package dependency chains and hardware incompatibilities with binaries and learned how to install from sources. And no, I'm not a developer (nor am I a rocket scientist, though I do think rockets are cool). The good thing about package managers, is that they tell you which package has been modified (a user changes a file, someone breaks into your machine and modifies a binary). In rpm it's done via rpm -qVa and in debian it's done by the command debsums. I am not sure about gentoo. Utilities from gentoolkit will do this in Gentoo. On a developers users - I would say install from source. On a *users* list : install always from your distribution packages. When was the last time you installed X from sources? KDE? Mozilla? OpenOffice? Why is asterisk different? Because X versions don't differ materially from minor version to minor version; because X isn't updated nearly as often Asterisk; because Asterisk, unlike X, doesn't take days to compile; because X, in general, isn't used to provide many users with a vital service -- if your X breaks, it's your tears, not the whole department's. Look, this is not the local Quake III server we're talking about -- this is phone service. The biggest mental hurdle that IT people have to get over is that it is absolutely *not* okay when the phones break, for any reason, for any period of time. This is a whole new world of user expectation. The PSTN people already get what I'm talking about. (They get too much undeserved shit from IT people who have no concept what a feat it is to run a network with 99.999% uptime. Say what you will about my local telco; I haven't lost a dialtone on my local phone in more than 5 years, and before that it had been 21. Respect the experienced PSTN technician -- he is worthy of it.) I'm sorry -- for Asterisk, I have to disagree with you categorically. The depth of support available for someone who has installed from original sources is deeper and the installation is guaranteed to be current. Updating a source install is also trivial; and if somebody needs help doing that, I'm happy to provide some advice in that department (I've updated Asterisk on a production machine twice in the last month, and it took less than 10 minutes both times -- the same can't be said for my X, KDE or Mozilla installations). It's not all that difficult to produce debian packages. There are situations where I create binary packages and install them on a test server. If I don't like the results, I can remove/purge the package or just upgrade it to the next version I create. Once I am satisfied with the results the same packages are easily installed on other servers. Building from tarballs will work for other situations involving multiple servers. Last year I ran into a situation where asterisk and a few other things were built from tarballs on a development server and a production server. Things were
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Etch
Stephen Bosch wrote: My Linux servers started working the day I stopped wasting my time with packages, idiotic package dependency chains and hardware incompatibilities with binaries and learned how to install from sources. And no, I'm not a developer (nor am I a rocket scientist, though I do think rockets are cool). One day I aspire to be in the elite category of not having to do a yum install *bsd Look, this is not the local Quake III server we're talking about -- this is phone service. The biggest mental hurdle that IT people have to get over is that it is absolutely *not* okay when the phones break, for any reason, for any period of time. This is a whole new world of user expectation. The PSTN people already get what I'm talking about. (They get too much undeserved shit from IT people who have no concept what a feat it is to run a network with 99.999% uptime. Say what you will about my local telco; I haven't lost a dialtone on my local phone in more than 5 years, and before that it had been 21. Respect the experienced PSTN technician -- he is worthy of it.) Funny you should mention... I have a current client... Here are the specs: xxx-2:~# uptime 14:53:35 up 194 days, 1:40, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00 S'been up since the install. Not a problem since. Do I expect one? Not really but if it happens it happens... I've seen dialtones go down and I've seen load coils replaced and this was when I lived in New York City. So you must have it pretty good. As for respecting the local PSTN tech... Sure he may be worthy of it, albeit he is slowly going the way of the dinosaur as you surely know most telcos have been implementing or already have a huge infrastructure already in place. I'm sorry -- for Asterisk, I have to disagree with you categorically. The depth of support available for someone who has installed from original sources is deeper and the installation is guaranteed to be current. Updating a source install is also trivial; and if somebody needs help doing that, I'm happy to provide some advice in that department (I've updated Asterisk on a production machine twice in the last month, and it took less than 10 minutes both times -- the same can't be said for my X, KDE or Mozilla installations). Damn kde, damn X, and damn Mozilla... S'what terminals are for. Which by the way puzzled me... One day, rather one and two thirds a day it took me just that one and two thirds a day to build X. I shook my head in disgust remembering the good old days of crawling speeds to get the latest 1.xx kernels in Linux and compile the damn thing... Back then it was ever so much easier. One word for Linux distros nowadays (call me a zealot)... It turned into bloatware the last 5 years. How the hell can D(umb)ebian justify not one, not two but three DVD's. K. Ranting over back to the slave labors of SIP destruction -- J. Oquendo http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x1383A743 echo infiltrated.net|sed 's/^/sil@/g' Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. -- Plato smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Etch
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 10:23:19AM -0600, Stephen Bosch wrote: Diego Iastrubni wrote: On Tuesday 24 April 2007 16:24, Stephen Bosch wrote: Well, I can't speak for anybody else, but I haven't had a problem with reproducing a source install. How about time? 2 minutes download+install, vs 10-20 minutes compilation. Then, how do you uninstall? How do you know which version do you have? If you don't have 10-20 minutes for compilation you have no business installing a PBX of any stripe, let alone Asterisk. I not it pretty well. But why should I waste my time on it? Packages are reproducable builds. And if you don't know how to get the version number of your Asterisk install... are you actually administering Asterisk installations for users? A common practice in Asterisk is to delete the contents of /usr/lib/asterisk/modules when installing a new version. Why? because you have no idea what comes from the current installation and what comes from a different package. With Debian you can use: dpkg -S /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/* and also check those packages with debsums. In rpm you can run: rpm -qf /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/* or even: rpm -Vf /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/* Those tell you not only from which package comes each module, but also if it has changed since its installation. So if you install Asterisk from source, do you actually know what is the version number of Asterisk that you run? The above is trivial Linux management knowledge, without the need for a lifetime experince with the specific program Asterisk. If you're new to this, fine, it's okay to prefer packages and not know how to determine the version number of your install -- but don't be handing out dangerous advice that makes people unnecessarily afraid of performing tasks vital to the successful administration of a piece of software. This isn't difficult, and there's plenty of help available. If my distro does not have a recent enough version for me, I package a newer version on my own. This is generally the same stability tradeoff as in installing from source. I may also try packages from a popular repository such as backports.org and hope that others will encounter similar issues. Can you tell I'm a Gentoo user? :P snip And even gentoo uses packages. Sorry, but make install is something for developers - not users. Yes, and I've already acknowledged I use mostly packages. The distinction with Gentoo is that the packages are source packages and are built at install time. Even so, for Asterisk, I *still* install from tarballs. If by user you mean somebody using a phone, then touché -- I don't expect my phone users to be doing 'make install' either. But we're talking about administering Asterisk, here. Seriously -- if you can't do a 'make install', then you should stay away from both Asterisk *and* Linux. This is not rocket science. It's like flying a plane on auto-pilot, or flying a plane without knowing how to taxi. Being able to steer in flight is not good enough -- if you can't land and take off, you have no business in the cockpit. It's not that I can't land my plain. It's just that I rather spend more time in the air than in the process of landings. To say that 'make install' is something 'for developers - not users' is beyond absurd. The main problem is that the developers develop a great software. But they tend to give the first priority to that software. They are masters of dealing with that software and can't easily grasp what it's like not to knowe the software. And it is also important to understand that Asterisk, as important a ballerina as it is, is still part of a complete system. For the developers of Asterisk it may be convinient to use some generic procedures. But you need that those procedures will fit well with the standards of your distribution. My Linux servers started working the day I stopped wasting my time with packages, idiotic package dependency chains and hardware incompatibilities with binaries and learned how to install from sources. And no, I'm not a developer (nor am I a rocket scientist, though I do think rockets are cool). A few idiotic dependencies: | Ensure that your system contains a compatible compiler and development | libraries. Asterisk requires either the GNU Compiler Collection (GCC) version | 3.0 or higher, or a compiler that supports the C99 specification and some of | the gcc language extensions. In addition, your system needs to have the C | library headers available, and the headers and libraries for OpenSSL, | ncurses and zlib. | On many distributions, these files are installed by packages with names like | 'glibc-devel', 'ncurses-devel', 'openssl-devel' and 'zlib-devel' or similar. But this is actually a very partial list and not very helpful. You'll have to figure out what features you actually need, and then dig to find their actual build dependencies. And those are not trivial. On
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Etch
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 06:36:25PM -0600, Stephen Bosch wrote: He is better off installing from sources, and more likely to get something that performs as it should. Source installs are not complicated -- even when you are using zaptel. But why do all the extra work, and end up with a system you cannot easily reproduce? Well, I can't speak for anybody else, but I haven't had a problem with reproducing a source install. Notwithstanding a careful survey of the release notes with a new version when upgrading a production server (something you need to do with a package install anyway), I make sure I back up my configuration files, do a make and make install, restart things, and generally it works. Josu, if you are concerned about dependencies, use apt-get to install Asterisk first, then remove only Asterisk, Zaptel and libpri and install from source. Well, if you do decide to go this route, you need build dependencies rather than run-time dependencies. Can you tell I'm a Gentoo user? :P I've got nothing against packages in principle, and my system has plenty of packages from the distribution, but I've yet to see a project as dynamic as Asterisk. What package maintainer could possibly keep up? -Stephen- ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Etch
hello, I have two new cards, one is A400P01 from OpenVox and the other is a BILLION ISDN. I have Debian Etch installed. I want install this packages: http://ftp.digium.com/pub/asterisk/releases/asterisk-1.2.17.tar.gz http://ftp.digium.com/pub/zaptel/releases/zaptel-1.2.16.tar.gz http://ftp.digium.com/pub/libpri/releases/libpri-1.2.4.tar.gz I need some other packages??? I need other libraries befero install thoose packages??? thanks a lot___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Etch
you need to use apt-get install asterisk. If you MUST HAVE 1.217 or your cats die, there are repositories available. For example, read this: http://www.buildserver.net/ If you still MUST build asterisk yourself, I wish you good luck. On Monday 23 April 2007 13:29, Josu Lazkano Lete wrote: hello, I have two new cards, one is A400P01 from OpenVox and the other is a BILLION ISDN. I have Debian Etch installed. I want install this packages: http://ftp.digium.com/pub/asterisk/releases/asterisk-1.2.17.tar.gz http://ftp.digium.com/pub/zaptel/releases/zaptel-1.2.16.tar.gz http://ftp.digium.com/pub/libpri/releases/libpri-1.2.4.tar.gz I need some other packages??? I need other libraries befero install thoose packages??? thanks a lot ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Etch
On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 12:29:53PM +0200, Josu Lazkano Lete wrote: hello, I have two new cards, one is A400P01 from OpenVox and the other is a BILLION ISDN. I have Debian Etch installed. I want install this packages: http://ftp.digium.com/pub/asterisk/releases/asterisk-1.2.17.tar.gz http://ftp.digium.com/pub/zaptel/releases/zaptel-1.2.16.tar.gz http://ftp.digium.com/pub/libpri/releases/libpri-1.2.4.tar.gz I need some other packages??? apt-get install asterisk zaptel-source m-a a-i zaptel genzaptelconf -sdv Enjoy -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/tzafrir ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Etch
Monday, April 23, 2007, 12:44:08 PM, Diego wrote: you need to use apt-get install asterisk. If you MUST HAVE 1.217 or your cats die, there are repositories available. For example, read this: http://www.buildserver.net/ If you still MUST build asterisk yourself, I wish you good luck. Well, it works for me from source, without any issue. Ok, I use mISDN instead of zaptel. -- Best regards, Gergomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Etch
Diego Iastrubni wrote: you need to use apt-get install asterisk. If you MUST HAVE 1.217 or your cats die, there are repositories available. For example, read this: http://www.buildserver.net/ If you still MUST build asterisk yourself, I wish you good luck. This kind of commentary isn't at all helpful. One, source installations are preferable if there isn't some specific reason not to use them, and two, not using the most current Asterisk on a fresh install is irresponsible. I cannot recommend getting an unstable package from some repository. He is better off installing from sources, and more likely to get something that performs as it should. Source installs are not complicated -- even when you are using zaptel. Josu, if you are concerned about dependencies, use apt-get to install Asterisk first, then remove only Asterisk, Zaptel and libpri and install from source. This approach has worked for me countless times. -Stephen- ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Debian Etch
On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 06:36:25PM -0600, Stephen Bosch wrote: Diego Iastrubni wrote: you need to use apt-get install asterisk. If you MUST HAVE 1.217 or your cats die, there are repositories available. For example, read this: http://www.buildserver.net/ If you still MUST build asterisk yourself, I wish you good luck. This kind of commentary isn't at all helpful. One, source installations are preferable if there isn't some specific reason not to use them, and two, not using the most current Asterisk on a fresh install is irresponsible. I cannot recommend getting an unstable package from some repository. Right. And usingthe current packages from buildserver.net is in a way a bit worse than using unstable (more on the bleeding edge). A number of specific reasons: 1. The init.d script that comes with the zaptel package is broken. I'm working on fixing it, but the distro-specific one in the deb is tried-and-tested. For Zaptel I wholesomely recommend using the debs. 2. The installation of misdn from inside the installation of zaptel is simply a broken method IMHO. You should know what you install. * misdn i not related to zaptel in any way whatsoever (excet that both need the kernel) * You should have a reproducable build. The installer downloads a versionless misdn tarball, which turns out to be a CVS snapshot with a few later fixes. There have been newer releases since from misdn.org (actually versioned) and yet the installation instructions for misdn hardware remain install zaptel. Sady the state of misdn in Etch is quite poor (and with the added confusion, and the fact that no releases were actually released in time for the Etch freeze). See http://bugs.debian.org/418276 . On Ubuntu this broken package sadly exists, and breaks installations of Asterisk/misdn. He is better off installing from sources, and more likely to get something that performs as it should. Source installs are not complicated -- even when you are using zaptel. But why do all the extra work, and end up with a system you cannot easily reproduce? Josu, if you are concerned about dependencies, use apt-get to install Asterisk first, then remove only Asterisk, Zaptel and libpri and install from source. Well, if you do decide to go this route, you need build dependencies rather than run-time dependencies. Make sure you have a deb-src source in your sources.list (and that you ran 'apt-get update' later) and then run 'apt-get build-dep asterisk' . Likewise for zaptel and libpri. Again, all the misdn-related packages have been removed from Etch due to lack of maintinance. -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/tzafrir ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] asterisk on debian
hello friends, I want to install Asterisk on a Debian machine. I need to download the sources or just with apt-get install is enought??? thanks___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk on debian
On 3/20/07, Josu Lazkano Lete [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello friends, I want to install Asterisk on a Debian machine. I need to download the sources or just with apt-get install is enought??? Depends on the version you want to install. You can install with apt-get install asterisk, of course. More info here: http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+Linux+Debian Regards, Victor ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk on debian
On 3/20/07, Josu Lazkano Lete [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to install Asterisk on a Debian machine. I need to download the sources or just with apt-get install is enought??? It depends on what version do you want to use. In sarge is only the version 1.0.7. In etch is 1.2.13, but the 1.2 branch is at 1.2.16 and there's the version 1.4.1 is out also. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk on debian
Josu Lazkano Lete wrote: I need to download the sources or just with apt-get install is enought??? apt-get is the easiest way, but won't give you the latest release. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] asterisk on debian
You could download the source from asterisk.org and follow the install instructions. You could also use SVN to download the source. Also, there are a few binary package links found at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+Download. Bobby Crawford _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josu Lazkano Lete Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 8:58 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] asterisk on debian hello friends, I want to install Asterisk on a Debian machine. I need to download the sources or just with apt-get install is enought??? thanks ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk on debian
Hi Josu, I've done it both ways, and they both generally work equally well (so long as the package maintainers are doing a decent job). As Victor mentioned though, the version you wish to install plays a factor in this. I found the Asterisk build in the repos to be a bit out dated. Also, it's always bothered me having to wait on another party to create a package so that I can fix a security vulnerability. I've just gone with the straight from source method for now, but that's all personal opinion on that matter really. The bottom line is that if you want the latest and greatest (in terms of both feature sets and security updates), build it yourself. Apt-get may be easier, but there's plenty of good guides to get you going with building from source. Alex On 3/20/07, Josu Lazkano Lete [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello friends, I want to install Asterisk on a Debian machine. I need to download the sources or just with apt-get install is enought??? thanks ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Alex Robar [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk from Debian Packages
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 12:11:34AM +0100, Andreas von Heydwolff wrote: I'm using 1.2.13~dfsg-2 from Debian unstable in a small SOHO environment, it's doing its job. However, the startup scripts seem to hose something and it's running but not working with /etc/init.d/asterisk start, but running it from commandline solved the problem. Asterisk has been up for a couple weeks again. Hadn't the time to look into that yet, perhaps a problem with old config files from previous versions. Please report bugs (reportbug asterisk) . Others may have the same problem as you. Have you modified /etc/init.d/asterisk ? What do you have in /etc/default/asterisk? Hi again. Sorry, was just too busy in th meantime. It's all working just as it should, must have been a temporary glitch. 1.2.13~dfsg-2 is doing fine on a sarge/etch mix with debian kernel 2.6.18-8. Had to install the self compiled zaptel modules with # dpkg -i --force-overwrite though as some config file is shared with the kernel's. --AvH ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] asterisk 1.4 debian packages
Hello, are there any (possibly experimental) asterisk debian packages (or at least a debian/ directory to build our own)? Previously I used to modify debian/ directory from earlier version, but 1.4 changed build process, so this is not that easy. Thank you, Juraj. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk 1.4 debian packages
On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 09:16:07PM +0100, Juraj Bednar wrote: Hello, are there any (possibly experimental) asterisk debian packages (or at least a debian/ directory to build our own)? Previously I used to modify debian/ directory from earlier version, but 1.4 changed build process, so this is not that easy. The pkg-voip repository has experimental zaptel, libpri and asterisk packages in the experimental branches of each of those packages. They can be built with svn-buildpackage on etch/sid. http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-voip/README?op=file -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/tzafrir ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] Asterisk from Debian Packages
Alex, Thanks for the help. I've installed Asterisk and Zaptel from the backports and so far so good! Phil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 11:20 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk from Debian Packages You can run Asterisk 1.2 in sarge using the packages in backports. Just add: deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ sarge-backports main contrib non-free to /etc/apt/sources.list then apt-get update and then apt-get -t sarge-backports install asterisk (you can also pin-priority asterisk's packages, look at APT documentation). -Alex On 12/10/06, Phil Finkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've gotten asterisk installed on Debian only to realize that the packaged version is 1.0.7. Is there a reason why they're not up to a 1.2.x release? I'm building a system for production and I'm wondering if I should remain at this old version or if there are any serious issues with 1.2.13 on Debian? Should I be able to do an apt-get from unstable and get 1.2.13 and be on my happy way? Thanks for the help on a stupid question, Phil ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk from Debian Packages
Carlos Navarro wrote: On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 20:54:10 -0500 Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you run etch before it is released as stable, you might run into problems that are over your head. I have run into a few that weren't over my head but they were very inconvenient. Yes Paul, I'm running 2 etch with asterisk, but it is my own risk. In Debian I trust. etch has frozen, so the risk just went down a whole lot. -- James Andrewartha Systems Administrator Data Analysis Australia Pty Ltd ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk from Debian Packages
On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 20:54:10 -0500 Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you run etch before it is released as stable, you might run into problems that are over your head. I have run into a few that weren't over my head but they were very inconvenient. Yes Paul, I'm running 2 etch with asterisk, but it is my own risk. In Debian I trust. Charlie ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk from Debian Packages
You can run Asterisk 1.2 in sarge using the packages in backports. Just add: deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ sarge-backports main contrib non-free to /etc/apt/sources.list then apt-get update and then apt-get -t sarge-backports install asterisk (you can also pin-priority asterisk's packages, look at APT documentation). -Alex On 12/10/06, Phil Finkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've gotten asterisk installed on Debian only to realize that the packaged version is 1.0.7. Is there a reason why they're not up to a 1.2.xrelease? I'm building a system for production and I'm wondering if I should remain at this old version or if there are any serious issues with 1.2.13on Debian? Should I be able to do an apt-get from unstable and get 1.2.13 and be on my happy way? Thanks for the help on a stupid question, Phil ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk 1.2 + Debian Sarge
On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 03:16:45PM +0800, Dulmandakh Sukhbaatar wrote: Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 02:00:11PM -0700, Matt wrote: Looks like you need to install the kernel headers package. While you are at it be sure that you have the kernel source package installed also. apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r` should suffice. my $0.02 Juanjo Portela wrote: Dear Collegues I am trying to compile the new version (Asterisk.1.2) with my debian box and i get the following error when i compile the zaptel package: radio:/usr/src/asterisk-1.2/zaptel-1.2.0# make make: Warning: File `Makefile' has modification time 3.1e+08 s in the future Hmmm... better setup your clock properly And you should create symlink to your kernel header ln -s kernel-headers-`uname -r` linux No, this should not be needed. At least not with 1.0.10, 1.2.0 and recent debs in Unstable. Note that the kernel-headers package contain the symlink /lib/modules/VERSION/build . Hence you can set up either KSRC or KVERS. -- Tzafrir Cohen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il | | a Mutt's [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | best ICQ# 16849755 | | friend ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk 1.2 + Debian Sarge
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 02:00:11PM -0700, Matt wrote: Looks like you need to install the kernel headers package. While you are at it be sure that you have the kernel source package installed also. apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r` should suffice. my $0.02 Juanjo Portela wrote: Dear Collegues I am trying to compile the new version (Asterisk.1.2) with my debian box and i get the following error when i compile the zaptel package: radio:/usr/src/asterisk-1.2/zaptel-1.2.0# make make: Warning: File `Makefile' has modification time 3.1e+08 s in the future Hmmm... better setup your clock properly And you should create symlink to your kernel header ln -s kernel-headers-`uname -r` linux I had no problem with compilation. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Asterisk 1.2 + Debian Sarge
Dear Collegues I am trying to compile the new version (Asterisk.1.2) with my debian box and i get the following error when i compile the zaptel package: radio:/usr/src/asterisk-1.2/zaptel-1.2.0# make make: Warning: File `Makefile' has modification time 3.1e+08 s in the future cc -I. -O4 -g -Wall -DBUILDING_TONEZONE-DSTANDALONE_ZAPATA -DZAPTEL_CONFIG=\/etc/zaptel.conf\ -c -o gendigits.o gendigits.c cc -o gendigits gendigits.o -lm ./gendigits gcc -I/include -O6 -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -DEXPORT_SYMTAB -I/drivers/net -Wall -I. -Wstrict-prototypes -fomit-frame-pointer -I/drivers/net/wan -I/include/net -DSTANDALONE_ZAPATA -o zaptel.o -c zaptel.c In file included from zaptel.c:42: /usr/include/linux/kernel.h:72: error: syntax error before size_t /usr/include/linux/kernel.h:74: error: syntax error before size_t In file included from /usr/include/linux/timex.h:186, from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:11, from /usr/include/linux/module.h:10, from zaptel.c:44: /usr/include/linux/time.h:14: error: syntax error before time_t /usr/include/linux/time.h:16: error: syntax error before '}' token /usr/include/linux/time.h:20: error: syntax error before time_t In file included from /usr/include/linux/timex.h:186, from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:11, from /usr/include/linux/module.h:10, from zaptel.c:44: Have you any solution? Thank you in advance Juanjo ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk 1.2 + Debian Sarge
Looks like you need to install the kernel headers package. While you are at it be sure that you have the kernel source package installed also. my $0.02 Juanjo Portela wrote: Dear Collegues I am trying to compile the new version (Asterisk.1.2) with my debian box and i get the following error when i compile the zaptel package: radio:/usr/src/asterisk-1.2/zaptel-1.2.0# make make: Warning: File `Makefile' has modification time 3.1e+08 s in the future cc -I. -O4 -g -Wall -DBUILDING_TONEZONE-DSTANDALONE_ZAPATA -DZAPTEL_CONFIG=\/etc/zaptel.conf\ -c -o gendigits.o gendigits.c cc -o gendigits gendigits.o -lm ./gendigits gcc -I/include -O6 -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -DEXPORT_SYMTAB -I/drivers/net -Wall -I. -Wstrict-prototypes -fomit-frame-pointer -I/drivers/net/wan -I/include/net -DSTANDALONE_ZAPATA -o zaptel.o -c zaptel.c In file included from zaptel.c:42: /usr/include/linux/kernel.h:72: error: syntax error before size_t /usr/include/linux/kernel.h:74: error: syntax error before size_t In file included from /usr/include/linux/timex.h:186, from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:11, from /usr/include/linux/module.h:10, from zaptel.c:44: /usr/include/linux/time.h:14: error: syntax error before time_t /usr/include/linux/time.h:16: error: syntax error before '}' token /usr/include/linux/time.h:20: error: syntax error before time_t In file included from /usr/include/linux/timex.h:186, from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:11, from /usr/include/linux/module.h:10, from zaptel.c:44: Have you any solution? Thank you in advance Juanjo ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk 1.2 + Debian Sarge
On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 02:00:11PM -0700, Matt wrote: Looks like you need to install the kernel headers package. While you are at it be sure that you have the kernel source package installed also. apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r` should suffice. my $0.02 Juanjo Portela wrote: Dear Collegues I am trying to compile the new version (Asterisk.1.2) with my debian box and i get the following error when i compile the zaptel package: radio:/usr/src/asterisk-1.2/zaptel-1.2.0# make make: Warning: File `Makefile' has modification time 3.1e+08 s in the future Hmmm... better setup your clock properly -- Tzafrir Cohen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il | | a Mutt's [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | best ICQ# 16849755 | | friend ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on debian sarge doesn't start with CAPI module errors
Hello, Fresh install of Debian Sarge and asterisk from the debian archives. Asterisk doesn't start and dies with the following message. [chan_capi.so] = (Common ISDN API for Asterisk) == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/capi.conf': Found Apr 13 15:38:44 NOTICE[1580]: chan_capi.c:2635 load_module: CAPI not installed! Apr 13 15:38:44 WARNING[1580]: loader.c:345 ast_load_resource: chan_capi.so: load_module failed, returning -1 Apr 13 15:38:44 WARNING[1580]: chan_capi.c:2811 unload_module: Unable to unregister from CAPI! == Unregistered channel type 'CAPI' Apr 13 15:38:44 WARNING[1580]: loader.c:440 load_modules: Loading module chan_capi.so failed! I have an ISDN card I'm going to install later, but I want to get Asterisk up and running with SIP first. lon0asterisk01:~# dpkg -l | grep asterisk ii asterisk 1.0.5-2open source Private Branch Exchange (PBX) ii asterisk-app-d 0.0.20050203-2 Text entry application for Asterisk ii asterisk-app-f 0.0.20050203-2 Softfax application for Asterisk ii asterisk-chan- 0.3.5-11 Common ISDN API 2.0 implementation for Aster ii asterisk-confi 1.0.5-2config files for asterisk ii asterisk-dev 1.0.5-2development files for asterisk ii asterisk-doc 1.0.5-2documentation for asterisk ii asterisk-gtk-c 1.0.5-2gtk based console for asterisk ii asterisk-h323 1.0.5-2asterisk H.323 VoIP channel ii asterisk-promp 1.0-1 German prompts for the Asterisk PBX ii asterisk-promp 0.0.20040928-1 French voice prompts for Asterisk ii asterisk-promp 0.8-2 Swedish voice prompts for Asterisk ii asterisk-sound 1.0.5-2sound files for asterisk ii asterisk-web-v 1.0.5-2web based (GCI) voice mail interface for ast lon0asterisk01:~# dpkg -l | grep capi ii capisuite 0.4.5-2easy fax and voice box solution for ISDN/CAP ii libcapi20-23.6.2005-01-03 libraries for CAPI support Any ideas? Thanks ~sm ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on debian sarge doesn't start with CAPI module errors
Title: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on debian sarge doesn't start with CAPI module errors Hello, Apt-get update apt-get upgrade fixed it Must have been an issue with that packaged version. Thanks ~sm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Wed Apr 13 14:44:27 2005 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on debian sarge doesn't start with CAPI module errors Hello, Fresh install of Debian Sarge and asterisk from the debian archives. Asterisk doesn't start and dies with the following message. [chan_capi.so] = (Common ISDN API for Asterisk) == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/capi.conf': Found Apr 13 15:38:44 NOTICE[1580]: chan_capi.c:2635 load_module: CAPI not installed! Apr 13 15:38:44 WARNING[1580]: loader.c:345 ast_load_resource: chan_capi.so: load_module failed, returning -1 Apr 13 15:38:44 WARNING[1580]: chan_capi.c:2811 unload_module: Unable to unregister from CAPI! == Unregistered channel type 'CAPI' Apr 13 15:38:44 WARNING[1580]: loader.c:440 load_modules: Loading module chan_capi.so failed! I have an ISDN card I'm going to install later, but I want to get Asterisk up and running with SIP first. lon0asterisk01:~# dpkg -l | grep asterisk ii asterisk 1.0.5-2 open source Private Branch Exchange (PBX) ii asterisk-app-d 0.0.20050203-2 Text entry application for Asterisk ii asterisk-app-f 0.0.20050203-2 Softfax application for Asterisk ii asterisk-chan- 0.3.5-11 Common ISDN API 2.0 implementation for Aster ii asterisk-confi 1.0.5-2 config files for asterisk ii asterisk-dev 1.0.5-2 development files for asterisk ii asterisk-doc 1.0.5-2 documentation for asterisk ii asterisk-gtk-c 1.0.5-2 gtk based console for asterisk ii asterisk-h323 1.0.5-2 asterisk H.323 VoIP channel ii asterisk-promp 1.0-1 German prompts for the Asterisk PBX ii asterisk-promp 0.0.20040928-1 French voice prompts for Asterisk ii asterisk-promp 0.8-2 Swedish voice prompts for Asterisk ii asterisk-sound 1.0.5-2 sound files for asterisk ii asterisk-web-v 1.0.5-2 web based (GCI) voice mail interface for ast lon0asterisk01:~# dpkg -l | grep capi ii capisuite 0.4.5-2 easy fax and voice box solution for ISDN/CAP ii libcapi20-2 3.6.2005-01-03 libraries for CAPI support Any ideas? Thanks ~sm ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on debian sarge doesn't start with CAPImodule errors
Simon, Looks like its not seeing your card. Which capi modem are you using? Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Morris Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:44 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on debian sarge doesn't start with CAPImodule errors Hello, Fresh install of Debian Sarge and asterisk from the debian archives. Asterisk doesn't start and dies with the following message. [chan_capi.so] = (Common ISDN API for Asterisk) == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/capi.conf': Found Apr 13 15:38:44 NOTICE[1580]: chan_capi.c:2635 load_module: CAPI not installed! Apr 13 15:38:44 WARNING[1580]: loader.c:345 ast_load_resource: chan_capi.so: load_module failed, returning -1 Apr 13 15:38:44 WARNING[1580]: chan_capi.c:2811 unload_module: Unable to unregister from CAPI! == Unregistered channel type 'CAPI' Apr 13 15:38:44 WARNING[1580]: loader.c:440 load_modules: Loading module chan_capi.so failed! I have an ISDN card I'm going to install later, but I want to get Asterisk up and running with SIP first. lon0asterisk01:~# dpkg -l | grep asterisk ii asterisk 1.0.5-2open source Private Branch Exchange (PBX) ii asterisk-app-d 0.0.20050203-2 Text entry application for Asterisk ii asterisk-app-f 0.0.20050203-2 Softfax application for Asterisk ii asterisk-chan- 0.3.5-11 Common ISDN API 2.0 implementation for Aster ii asterisk-confi 1.0.5-2config files for asterisk ii asterisk-dev 1.0.5-2development files for asterisk ii asterisk-doc 1.0.5-2documentation for asterisk ii asterisk-gtk-c 1.0.5-2gtk based console for asterisk ii asterisk-h323 1.0.5-2asterisk H.323 VoIP channel ii asterisk-promp 1.0-1 German prompts for the Asterisk PBX ii asterisk-promp 0.0.20040928-1 French voice prompts for Asterisk ii asterisk-promp 0.8-2 Swedish voice prompts for Asterisk ii asterisk-sound 1.0.5-2sound files for asterisk ii asterisk-web-v 1.0.5-2web based (GCI) voice mail interface for ast lon0asterisk01:~# dpkg -l | grep capi ii capisuite 0.4.5-2easy fax and voice box solution for ISDN/CAP ii libcapi20-23.6.2005-01-03 libraries for CAPI support Any ideas? Thanks ~sm ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and Debian
Hi list, Does anyone use the .deb package of asterisk? Is it stable? woks fine? thanks Eduardo ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
