Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use?
I use 1.0.5.22 Can't fault it. Don't be afraid of upgrading to a newer version, you can always downgrade again. - Original Message - From: Paul Fielding [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 2:34 AM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use? I've seen lots of stuff go around about Grandstream firmware levels (in my case specifically the BT101/102). I'm just wondering what the currently accepted 'best' firmware version is to use? After seeing stuff going around about buggy firmware I want to know what I'm getting into before upping past my current 1.0.5.11.It's relatively stable, and the last thing I want to do is update to a flaky firmware Paul -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20050118/1d3c83e1/attachment.htm ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use?
I have that on my HandyTone 286, and it's got some issues. At least mine does. The page loading in FireFox very rarely ever completes, and this means that I can't really provision this thing very well at home (I only run Linux). I brought it to work and it loads up fine in IE here. I engaged their tech support and their initial response was did you refresh the page? ... Anyhow. -- Dana On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:48:11 +1100, Rod Bacon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use 1.0.5.22 Can't fault it. Don't be afraid of upgrading to a newer version, you can always downgrade again. - Original Message - From: Paul Fielding [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 2:34 AM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use? I've seen lots of stuff go around about Grandstream firmware levels (in my case specifically the BT101/102). I'm just wondering what the currently accepted 'best' firmware version is to use? After seeing stuff going around about buggy firmware I want to know what I'm getting into before upping past my current 1.0.5.11.It's relatively stable, and the last thing I want to do is update to a flaky firmware Paul -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20050118/1d3c83e1/attachment.htm ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use?
For me this version has issues with DHCP, and registrations. Although the look of it is something of an improvement. I wish they would get their existing feature set to work well before they make more changes. -Nate -Original Message- From: Rod Bacon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 2:48 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use? I use 1.0.5.22 Can't fault it. Don't be afraid of upgrading to a newer version, you can always downgrade again. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use?
On Wednesday 16 March 2005 21:06, Dana Olson wrote: I have that on my HandyTone 286, and it's got some issues. At least mine does. The page loading in FireFox very rarely ever completes, and this means that I can't really provision this thing very well at home (I only run Linux). I brought it to work and it loads up fine in IE here. I have had not a problem with 1.0.5.23. You may very well have another problem which is being masked. I engaged their tech support and their initial response was did you refresh the page? [... Why can people at least not delete the signatures? ...] B ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use?
On Wednesday 16 March 2005 21:19, Nathan C. Smith wrote: For me this version has issues with DHCP, and registrations. Although the look of it is something of an improvement. I wish they would get their existing feature set to work well before they make more changes. Try this with regards to registration... 1. Reduce the re-registration time to say 5 minutes 2. Let the phone register 3. Make a call to it but do not answer it 4. Let the phone re-register as normal 5. Make a second call and again do not answer it 6. Wait for the phone to re-register as normal I find that 6. is never reached. Grandstream know about this but are saying that the problem is with Asterisk. b ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use?
about buggy firmware I want to know what I'm getting into before upping past my current 1.0.5.11.It's relatively stable, and the last thing I want to do is update to a flaky firmware I don't know why, and Grandstream *swears* I'm the only one having this problem, but I am stuck with 5.11 which works fine but lacks a few improvements that have been incorporated into later versions. After 5.11, my phone simply will not do a DNS lookup, neither for NTP nor for SIP server. I need DNS lookup for SIP because the server is on a dynamic ip for the moment. Until I can use a fixed SIP server ip, I won't be able to move past 5.11 since GS seems to have given up on helping me. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use?
Have you checked the firewall on the server/router ? Is there a way to ping from a Grandstream to the server ? Just a thought... On Wed, 2005-01-19 at 17:38 +0100, Wilson Pickett wrote: about buggy firmware I want to know what I'm getting into before upping past my current 1.0.5.11.It's relatively stable, and the last thing I want to do is update to a flaky firmware I don't know why, and Grandstream *swears* I'm the only one having this problem, but I am stuck with 5.11 which works fine but lacks a few improvements that have been incorporated into later versions. After 5.11, my phone simply will not do a DNS lookup, neither for NTP nor for SIP server. I need DNS lookup for SIP because the server is on a dynamic ip for the moment. Until I can use a fixed SIP server ip, I won't be able to move past 5.11 since GS seems to have given up on helping me. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Kim Lux, Diesel Research Inc. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use?
I have found that having multiple entries in the DNS sometimes seems to cause a problem with 1.0.6.x versions. Try using one DNS entry, preferrably a nearby public one (e.g. your ISP's). Michael Crown Managing Partner The VoIP Connection -- Message: 15 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:56:14 -0700 From: Kim Lux [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use? To: Wilson Pickett [EMAIL PROTECTED], Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain Have you checked the firewall on the server/router ? Is there a way to ping from a Grandstream to the server ? Just a thought... On Wed, 2005-01-19 at 17:38 +0100, Wilson Pickett wrote: about buggy firmware I want to know what I'm getting into before upping past my current 1.0.5.11.It's relatively stable, and the last thing I want to do is update to a flaky firmware I don't know why, and Grandstream *swears* I'm the only one having this problem, but I am stuck with 5.11 which works fine but lacks a few improvements that have been incorporated into later versions. After 5.11, my phone simply will not do a DNS lookup, neither for NTP nor for SIP server. I need DNS lookup for SIP because the server is on a dynamic ip for the moment. Until I can use a fixed SIP server ip, I won't be able to move past 5.11 since GS seems to have given up on helping me. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Kim Lux, Diesel Research Inc. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use?
I've seen lots of stuff go around about Grandstream firmware levels (in my case specifically the BT101/102). I'm just wondering what the currently accepted 'best' firmware version is to use? After seeing stuff going around about buggy firmware I want to know what I'm getting into before upping past my current 1.0.5.11. It's relatively stable, and the last thing I want to do is update to a flaky firmware Paul ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use?
Ive been using 1.0.5.16 for more than a week now, havent had a single problem, and have not had to reboot it once. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Fielding Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 10:35 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use? I've seen lots of stuff go around about Grandstream firmware levels (in my case specifically the BT101/102). I'm just wondering what the currently accepted 'best' firmware version is to use? After seeing stuff going around about buggy firmware I want to know what I'm getting into before upping past my current 1.0.5.11. It's relatively stable, and the last thing I want to do is update to a flaky firmware Paul -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content and is believed to be clean. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use?
i've actually had reboot issues since moving to 1.0.5.16, the phones seem to hang more often on soft reboot and require a hard reboot (unplugging). This is just a feeling and i can't quantify this but i don't remember having to physically reboot the phones this often before. I'm using one bt-101 and one bt-102. -yair On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:50:30 +0200, David Norton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using 1.0.5.16 for more than a week now, haven't had a single problem, and have not had to reboot it once. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Fielding Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 10:35 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use? I've seen lots of stuff go around about Grandstream firmware levels (in my case specifically the BT101/102). I'm just wondering what the currently accepted 'best' firmware version is to use? After seeing stuff going around about buggy firmware I want to know what I'm getting into before upping past my current 1.0.5.11.It's relatively stable, and the last thing I want to do is update to a flaky firmware Paul -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content and is believed to be clean. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use?
I'm using 1.0.5.18 with no problems. Diego Aguirre FWD# 459696 - Original Message - From: Yair Hakak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 6:55 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use? i've actually had reboot issues since moving to 1.0.5.16, the phones seem to hang more often on soft reboot and require a hard reboot (unplugging). This is just a feeling and i can't quantify this but i don't remember having to physically reboot the phones this often before. I'm using one bt-101 and one bt-102. -yair On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:50:30 +0200, David Norton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using 1.0.5.16 for more than a week now, haven't had a single problem, and have not had to reboot it once. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Fielding Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 10:35 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use? I've seen lots of stuff go around about Grandstream firmware levels (in my case specifically the BT101/102). I'm just wondering what the currently accepted 'best' firmware version is to use? After seeing stuff going around about buggy firmware I want to know what I'm getting into before upping past my current 1.0.5.11.It's relatively stable, and the last thing I want to do is update to a flaky firmware Paul -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content and is believed to be clean. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use?
Diego Aguirre wrote: I'm using 1.0.5.18 with no problems. 1.0.5.18 has an issue when registering (boot) and re-registering (after register expiration, 1 hour) that appears an 403 for a minute on the display (during this time the phone refuse calls) and then it comes back to normal operation. Didn't this happen with your phones ? Upgraded to 1.0.5.20 yesterday and I think this issue was fixed. Bye, Leonardo -- Leonardo Gomes Figueira [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use?
No, i don't have this problem, the phone works fine. Diego Aguirre FWD# 459696 - Original Message - From: Leonardo Gomes Figueira [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use? Diego Aguirre wrote: I'm using 1.0.5.18 with no problems. 1.0.5.18 has an issue when registering (boot) and re-registering (after register expiration, 1 hour) that appears an 403 for a minute on the display (during this time the phone refuse calls) and then it comes back to normal operation. Didn't this happen with your phones ? Upgraded to 1.0.5.20 yesterday and I think this issue was fixed. Bye, Leonardo -- Leonardo Gomes Figueira [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use?
Paul Fielding wrote: I've seen lots of stuff go around about Grandstream firmware levels (in my case specifically the BT101/102). I'm just wondering what the currently accepted 'best' firmware version is to use? After seeing stuff going around about buggy firmware I want to know what I'm getting into before upping past my current 1.0.5.11.It's relatively stable, and the last thing I want to do is update to a flaky firmware I'm currently using 1.0.5.20 on 2 phones, just ordered 10 more yesterday and will load it on them a well. Doug ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use?
1.0.5.16 breaks the messages (Voicemail) button. I'm messing with 1.0.5.20 and it appears to be ok so far, however there doesn't appear to be any way to downgrade from 1.0.5.20 as it is ignoring any earlier firmwares - at least using tftp anyway. Craig - Original Message - From: David Norton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 4:50 PM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use? I've been using 1.0.5.16 for more than a week now, haven't had a single problem, and have not had to reboot it once. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Fielding Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 10:35 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use? I've seen lots of stuff go around about Grandstream firmware levels (in my case specifically the BT101/102). I'm just wondering what the currently accepted 'best' firmware version is to use? After seeing stuff going around about buggy firmware I want to know what I'm getting into before upping past my current 1.0.5.11.It's relatively stable, and the last thing I want to do is update to a flaky firmware Paul -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content and is believed to be clean. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use?
I'm using 1.0.5.20 and it fixed the CallerID issues I was having. Seems OK so far, haven't had any issues. -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Guy Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 9:16 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use? 1.0.5.16 breaks the messages (Voicemail) button. I'm messing with 1.0.5.20 and it appears to be ok so far, however there doesn't appear to be any way to downgrade from 1.0.5.20 as it is ignoring any earlier firmwares - at least using tftp anyway. Craig - Original Message - From: David Norton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 4:50 PM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use? I've been using 1.0.5.16 for more than a week now, haven't had a single problem, and have not had to reboot it once. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Fielding Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 10:35 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use? I've seen lots of stuff go around about Grandstream firmware levels (in my case specifically the BT101/102). I'm just wondering what the currently accepted 'best' firmware version is to use? After seeing stuff going around about buggy firmware I want to know what I'm getting into before upping past my current 1.0.5.11.It's relatively stable, and the last thing I want to do is update to a flaky firmware Paul -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content and is believed to be clean. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use?
18 on the BETA site has worked the best for me so far. ---Original Message--- From: Yair Hakak Date: 01/18/05 02:55:25 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use? i've actually had reboot issues since moving to 1.0.5.16, the phones seem to hang more often on soft reboot and require a hard reboot (unplugging). This is just a feeling and i can't quantify this but i don't remember having to physically reboot the phones this often before. I'm using one bt-101 and one bt-102. -yair On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:50:30 +0200, David Norton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using 1.0.5.16 for more than a week now, haven't had a single problem, and have not had to reboot it once. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Fielding Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 10:35 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Best Grandstream firmware to use? I've seen lots of stuff go around about Grandstream firmware levels (in my case specifically the BT101/102). I'm just wondering what the currently accepted 'best' firmware version is to use? After seeing stuff going around about buggy firmware I want to know what I'm getting into before upping past my current 1.0.5.11. It's relatively stable, and the last thing I want to do is update to a flaky firmware Paul -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content and is believed to be clean. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
