Re: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-08-03 Thread Leif Madsen
On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 12:08:34 +1200, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  be it. Most of the unstable behavior has been in GUI based parts:
  Gnome in particular. Since no sane person runs * on a machine that is
  also running X, it's a non-issue.
 
 Is this always going to be the case?
 
 Is there no way of saying X doesn't get what it wants unless noone
 else wants it?

I have honestly never seen the point of running X on a server which is
running Asterisk.  If you can't have your Asterisk crash
(commercial/production environment) all you should have installed is
Asterisk and what you need to build Asterisk and it's related tools.

I know there are differing opinions on this, and I realize that yes,
Asterisk does work when you install all sorts of things, but I feel
the ideal, and correct thing to do with an Asterisk install is to
dedicate the machine to it, run anything else you need on a seperate
server.

Just my .02 CDN
Leif Madsen.
http://www.asteriskdocs.org
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-08-01 Thread Steve Totaro
please post the makefile hackings.  i have a sparc64 gathering dust.


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 I am running * CVS head on Gentoo/i586 and Gentoo/Sparc64 (US60 
 2x450/1GB RAM),
 they are running great.
 
 On sparc64 * does not compile out-of-the-box, some hackings in the 
 Makefiles are needed,
 
 Ming-Wei
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-08-01 Thread Ming-Wei Shih
Steve Totaro wrote:
please post the makefile hackings.  i have a sparc64 gathering dust.
---
this is against CVS-NHEAD-07/28/04-15:58:08
and includes my install path in /opt
Ming-Wei
diff --recursive -u asterisk/Makefile asterisk.orig/Makefile
--- asterisk/Makefile   2004-07-28 16:03:20.0 +0200
+++ asterisk.orig/Makefile  2004-07-18 19:58:05.0 +0200
@@ -16,8 +16,7 @@
# Create OPTIONS variable
OPTIONS=
-#OSARCH=$(shell uname -s)
-OSARCH=v9
+OSARCH=$(shell uname -s)
ifeq (${OSARCH},Linux)
PROC=$(shell uname -m)
@@ -51,10 +50,10 @@
#K6OPT  = -DK6OPT
#Tell gcc to optimize the asterisk's code
-OPTIMIZE=-mcpu=v9 -mtune=v9 -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe
+OPTIMIZE=-O6
#Include debug symbols in the executables (-g) and profiling info (-pg)
-DEBUG= #-pg
+DEBUG=-g #-pg
# If you are running a radio application, define RADIO_RELAX so that 
the DTMF
# will be received more reliably
@@ -79,7 +78,7 @@

# Where to install asterisk after compiling
# Default - leave empty
-INSTALL_PREFIX=/opt/asterisk
+INSTALL_PREFIX=
# Staging directory
# Files are copied here temporarily during the install process
@@ -99,17 +98,17 @@
# Don't use together with -DBUSYDETECT_TONEONLY
BUSYDETECT+= #-DBUSYDETECT_COMPARE_TONE_AND_SILENCE
-ASTLIBDIR=$(INSTALL_PREFIX)/lib/
-ASTVARLIBDIR=$(INSTALL_PREFIX)/var/lib/
-ASTETCDIR=$(INSTALL_PREFIX)/etc/
-ASTSPOOLDIR=$(INSTALL_PREFIX)/var/spool/
-ASTLOGDIR=$(INSTALL_PREFIX)/var/log/
-ASTHEADERDIR=$(INSTALL_PREFIX)/include/
+ASTLIBDIR=$(INSTALL_PREFIX)/usr/lib/asterisk
+ASTVARLIBDIR=$(INSTALL_PREFIX)/var/lib/asterisk
+ASTETCDIR=$(INSTALL_PREFIX)/etc/asterisk
+ASTSPOOLDIR=$(INSTALL_PREFIX)/var/spool/asterisk
+ASTLOGDIR=$(INSTALL_PREFIX)/var/log/asterisk
+ASTHEADERDIR=$(INSTALL_PREFIX)/usr/include/asterisk
ASTCONFPATH=$(ASTETCDIR)/asterisk.conf
-ASTBINDIR=$(INSTALL_PREFIX)/bin
-ASTSBINDIR=$(INSTALL_PREFIX)/sbin
+ASTBINDIR=$(INSTALL_PREFIX)/usr/bin
+ASTSBINDIR=$(INSTALL_PREFIX)/usr/sbin
ASTVARRUNDIR=$(INSTALL_PREFIX)/var/run
-ASTMANDIR=$(INSTALL_PREFIX)/share/man
+ASTMANDIR=$(INSTALL_PREFIX)/usr/share/man
MODULES_DIR=$(ASTLIBDIR)/modules
AGI_DIR=$(ASTVARLIBDIR)/agi-bin
@@ -117,7 +116,7 @@
INCLUDE=-Iinclude -I../include
CFLAGS=-pipe  -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes 
-Wmissing-declarations $(DEBUG) $(INCLUDE) -D_REENTRANT -D_GNU
_SOURCE #-DMAKE_VALGRIND_HAPPY
CFLAGS+=$(OPTIMIZE)
-CFLAGS+=$(shell if $(CC) -S -o /dev/null -xc /dev/null /dev/null 21; 
then echo ; fi)
+CFLAGS+=$(shell if $(CC) -march=$(PROC) -S -o /dev/null -xc /dev/null 
/dev/null 21; then echo -march=$(PROC); fi)
CFLAGS+=$(shell if uname -m | grep -q ppc; then echo -fsigned-char; fi)
CFLAGS+=$(shell if [ -f /usr/include/osp/osp.h ]; then echo 
-DOSP_SUPPORT -I/usr/include/osp ; fi)

diff --recursive -u asterisk/codecs/gsm/Makefile 
asterisk.orig/codecs/gsm/Makefile
--- asterisk/codecs/gsm/Makefile2004-07-28 16:04:54.0 +0200
+++ asterisk.orig/codecs/gsm/Makefile   2004-06-22 19:42:13.0 +0200
@@ -41,7 +41,7 @@
ifneq (${PROC},x86_64)
ifneq ($(shell uname -m),ppc)
ifneq ($(shell uname -m),alpha)
-OPTIMIZE+=-mcpu=v9 -mtune=v9 -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe
+OPTIMIZE+=-march=$(PROC)
endif
endif
endif
diff --recursive -u asterisk/codecs/ilbc/Makefile 
asterisk.orig/codecs/ilbc/Makefile
--- asterisk/codecs/ilbc/Makefile   2004-07-28 16:05:53.0 +0200
+++ asterisk.orig/codecs/ilbc/Makefile  2004-06-28 22:10:28.0 +0200
@@ -2,7 +2,7 @@
ifeq (${OSARCH},Darwin)
CFLAGS+=-Wall -Werror -fPIC -O3 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer
else
-CFLAGS+=-Wall -Werror -fPIC -O3 -mcpu=v9 -mtune=v9 -O2 
-fomit-frame-pointer -pipe
+CFLAGS+=-Wall -Werror -fPIC -O3 -march=$(ARCH) -funroll-loops 
-fomit-frame-pointer
endif
LIB=libilbc.a

diff --recursive -u asterisk/codecs/lpc10/Makefile 
asterisk.orig/codecs/lpc10/Makefile
--- asterisk/codecs/lpc10/Makefile  2004-07-28 16:06:39.0 +0200
+++ asterisk.orig/codecs/lpc10/Makefile 2004-06-22 19:42:14.0 +0200
@@ -31,7 +31,7 @@
ifneq ($(PROC),ppc)
ifneq ($(PROC),x86_64)
ifneq ($(PROC),alpha)
-   CFLAGS+= -mcpu=v9 -mtune=v9 -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe
+   CFLAGS+= -march=$(PROC)
endif
endif
endif

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Re: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-08-01 Thread matt . riddell
 be it. Most of the unstable behavior has been in GUI based parts:
 Gnome in particular. Since no sane person runs * on a machine that is
 also running X, it's a non-issue. 

Is this always going to be the case?

Is there no way of saying X doesn't get what it wants unless noone 
else wants it?

Matt Riddell
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-31 Thread Ming-Wei Shih
I am running * CVS head on Gentoo/i586 and Gentoo/Sparc64 (US60 
2x450/1GB RAM),
they are running great.

On sparc64 * does not compile out-of-the-box, some hackings in the 
Makefiles are needed,

Ming-Wei
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Re: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-29 Thread Walt Reed
On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 10:23:41PM +, Mark Woods said:
 
   No, it won't be the absolute latest code, but the Debian
   community is pretty good about keeping packages updated.
  ah! ah! ah!
  really... oh oh, so why debian is eons later in releasing
  new packages...
  
  perhaps you're speaking of -unstable debian... that's
  wy too unstable.
 
 A...but I *am* running unstable!  And it's been quite,
 well, stable!
 
 :)

There is a huge misconception about stable vs unstable. FWIW, I have
found debian unstable to be more stable than most other distro's stable
releases. For a truely unstable version, experimental would be it.
Most of the unstable behavior has been in GUI based parts: Gnome in
particular. Since no sane person runs * on a machine that is also
running X, it's a non-issue. I've been running * on unstable for about 6
months now with zero downtime other than a few upgrades. Ditto for about
a dozen other servers doing high-volume mail, web serving, etc.

I find stable unsuitable for most things as all the packages and
libraries are too outdated. Yes, the backports help, but then you are
not really running stable anymore are you? There are too many
dependancies now on other software that needs to be up to date in order
to function properly and have the features needed.

Anyway, I don't think that it's possible to have a best linux to run
any kind of server on. They are all damn good. The core of any linux
distro handling non-gui based server applications is virtually
identical. Most of the differences are package versions, minor configuration
tweaks, package management, and other non-important (when it comes to
stability) factors. Do your own research and find one you are
comfortable with.

For a platform with long-term stability where packages are not
constantly changing, maybe something like WhiteBox Linux which is based
on the RedHat Enterprise would be appropriate.

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RE: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-29 Thread Sebastian Nocetti
I think same...

All  distributions are based on same kernels... And in my opinion, Kernel is
who does all work in an operative systemm.. I am wrong?...

Actually I am running 3 * boxes in 3 Machines with Redhat 9.0, all are
Athlon based.

I had some problems, but generally those problem was related to bugs on *
and not on Linux..

I have some friends that test Asterisk using Gentoo and Debian, with success
results... So just select distro what you feel more comfortable...

Regards

Sebastian Nocetti 

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Asunto: Re: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 10:23:41PM +, Mark Woods said:
 
   No, it won't be the absolute latest code, but the Debian community 
   is pretty good about keeping packages updated.
  ah! ah! ah!
  really... oh oh, so why debian is eons later in releasing new 
  packages...
  
  perhaps you're speaking of -unstable debian... that's wy too 
  unstable.
 
 A...but I *am* running unstable!  And it's been quite, well, 
 stable!
 
 :)

There is a huge misconception about stable vs unstable. FWIW, I have found
debian unstable to be more stable than most other distro's stable
releases. For a truely unstable version, experimental would be it.
Most of the unstable behavior has been in GUI based parts: Gnome in
particular. Since no sane person runs * on a machine that is also running X,
it's a non-issue. I've been running * on unstable for about 6 months now
with zero downtime other than a few upgrades. Ditto for about a dozen other
servers doing high-volume mail, web serving, etc.

I find stable unsuitable for most things as all the packages and libraries
are too outdated. Yes, the backports help, but then you are not really
running stable anymore are you? There are too many dependancies now on other
software that needs to be up to date in order to function properly and have
the features needed.

Anyway, I don't think that it's possible to have a best linux to run any
kind of server on. They are all damn good. The core of any linux distro
handling non-gui based server applications is virtually identical. Most of
the differences are package versions, minor configuration tweaks, package
management, and other non-important (when it comes to
stability) factors. Do your own research and find one you are comfortable
with.

For a platform with long-term stability where packages are not constantly
changing, maybe something like WhiteBox Linux which is based on the RedHat
Enterprise would be appropriate.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-29 Thread Peter Corlett
Sebastian Nocetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 All distributions are based on same kernels... And in my opinion,
 Kernel is who does all work in an operative systemm.. I am wrong?...

Sort of. libc is the other thing that can affect performance. However,
any distribution worth its salt will provide a selection of optimal
kernel and libcs because of this.

The effort of building a custom kernel and libc is probably
worthwhile, but beyond that you should probably spend your efforts
elsewhere other than recompiling stuff for the sake of it. Gentoo's
performance improvements from recompiling the world are usually more
psychological than practical.

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I thought they were talking about cheap whores - smelly, ugly, brightly
coloured, waste of money, and got a cock inside them most of the time.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-29 Thread james edwards
Gentoo's
 performance improvements from recompiling the world are usually more
 psychological than practical.


http://www.funroll-loops.org/
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-29 Thread Mark Woods
Exactly...which is why I run unstable.
-Mark
perhaps you're speaking of -unstable debian... that's
wy too unstable.
 

A...but I *am* running unstable!  And it's been quite,
well, stable!
:)
   

There is a huge misconception about stable vs unstable. FWIW, I have
found debian unstable to be more stable than most other distro's stable
releases. For a truely unstable version, experimental would be it.
Most of the unstable behavior has been in GUI based parts: Gnome in
particular. Since no sane person runs * on a machine that is also
running X, it's a non-issue. I've been running * on unstable for about 6
months now with zero downtime other than a few upgrades. Ditto for about
a dozen other servers doing high-volume mail, web serving, etc.
I find stable unsuitable for most things as all the packages and
libraries are too outdated. Yes, the backports help, but then you are
not really running stable anymore are you? There are too many
dependancies now on other software that needs to be up to date in order
to function properly and have the features needed.
Anyway, I don't think that it's possible to have a best linux to run
any kind of server on. They are all damn good. The core of any linux
distro handling non-gui based server applications is virtually
identical. Most of the differences are package versions, minor configuration
tweaks, package management, and other non-important (when it comes to
stability) factors. Do your own research and find one you are
comfortable with.
For a platform with long-term stability where packages are not
constantly changing, maybe something like WhiteBox Linux which is based
on the RedHat Enterprise would be appropriate.
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[Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-28 Thread Eric Kirkland
Hi folks;  Can anyone recommend the best Linux OS (versions, etc) to run
Asterisk?  I'd like to be able to run the Text To Speech apps and some of
the extended functions of the software (no phone hardware needed, all Voice
over IP stuff)... I'm currently running Asterisk on Mandrake Linux (vesion
10 I think?) but I'm having difficulty compiling the TTS stuff.

I'm just wondering if there's a widely used version that pretty much works
with everything...?

Andy


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-28 Thread James Freire

Hi Andy,

I have had tremendous success running Asterisk on Slackware linux version 9.1. Its 
very quick to install and I had absolutely no problem compiling the source code for 
Asterisk or anything else so far. I have asterisk running on 2 servers right now that 
use Slackware.

-James

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Hi folks;  Can anyone recommend the best Linux OS (versions, etc) to run
Asterisk?  I'd like to be able to run the Text To Speech apps and some of
the extended functions of the software (no phone hardware needed, all Voice
over IP stuff)... I'm currently running Asterisk on Mandrake Linux (vesion
10 I think?) but I'm having difficulty compiling the TTS stuff.

I'm just wondering if there's a widely used version that pretty much works
with everything...?

Andy


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-28 Thread Duane Cox



Most die hard Linux fans build their own 
distribution. But there is also gentoo which is VERY popular.


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  Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for 
  Asterisk
  Hi folks; Can anyone recommend the best Linux OS 
  (versions, etc) to runAsterisk? I'd like to be able to run the Text 
  To Speech apps and some ofthe extended functions of the software (no phone 
  hardware needed, all Voiceover IP stuff)... I'm currently running Asterisk 
  on Mandrake Linux (vesion10 I think?) but I'm having difficulty compiling 
  the TTS stuff.I'm just wondering if there's a widely used version that 
  pretty much workswith 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-28 Thread mattf
Oh boy, time for distro wars :)

I have found that for some reason Asterisk seems to run better on Slackware
than Redhat, that's just my personal non-scientific observations, but we
have 4 Asterisk servers in production(two redhat 9, one slackware 9.1 and
one slackware 10.0) with almost identical hardware and the Slackware boxes
have a lower average load over the same Asterisk usage. I have also talked
with several people who are very happy with Mandrake, Gentoo and Debian.
Those are the distros that most of the Asterisk crowd seem to use. There is
also an Asterisk-centric distro but I haven't heard much about it lately.

And as always check out the Wiki:
http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+linux+distributions

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Hi folks;  Can anyone recommend the best Linux OS (versions, etc) to run
Asterisk?  I'd like to be able to run the Text To Speech apps and some of
the extended functions of the software (no phone hardware needed, all Voice
over IP stuff)... I'm currently running Asterisk on Mandrake Linux (vesion
10 I think?) but I'm having difficulty compiling the TTS stuff.

I'm just wondering if there's a widely used version that pretty much works
with everything...?

Andy


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-28 Thread Leif Madsen
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:13:37 -0400, Eric Kirkland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi folks;  Can anyone recommend the best Linux OS (versions, etc) to run
 Asterisk?  I'd like to be able to run the Text To Speech apps and some of
 the extended functions of the software (no phone hardware needed, all Voice
 over IP stuff)... I'm currently running Asterisk on Mandrake Linux (vesion
 10 I think?) but I'm having difficulty compiling the TTS stuff.
 
 I'm just wondering if there's a widely used version that pretty much works
 with everything...?

I personally use Fedora Core 1 and 2 successfully at home.  Gentoo
seems to be the most widely agreed upon distribution though.  I don't
think anyone would slam you for using Asterisk on it.

HTH,
Leif Madsen.
http://www.asteriskdocs.org
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-28 Thread Peter Corlett
Eric Kirkland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi folks; Can anyone recommend the best Linux OS (versions, etc) to
 run Asterisk?

Best is highly subjective, and asking is likely to provoke a holy war ;)

 I'd like to be able to run the Text To Speech apps and some of the
 extended functions of the software (no phone hardware needed, all
 Voice over IP stuff)... I'm currently running Asterisk on Mandrake
 Linux (vesion 10 I think?) but I'm having difficulty compiling the
 TTS stuff.

Yes, I found that the TTS resisted my attempts to make it work on a
Slackware box. However, it works fine on Debian 3.0 (which is also my
preferred Linux distribution.)

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-28 Thread Michael Little
Andy,

I have limited Linux experience, but I have Asterisk installed on a
Slackware 10 box.  I had some assistance from our developer (he knows a
lot more than I do with using Linux).  It seemed to install quick and I
don't recall having any problems.


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-28 Thread Yiannis Costopoulos
Have there been noticed any differences in echo from distro to distro on the
very same hardware?
I mean install a distro compile and run *, then replace it with another
distro on the same box and cards.
That could be intersting.

Thanks,
Yiannis.

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Sent: 28 July 2004 14:29
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk


On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:13:37 -0400, Eric Kirkland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi folks;  Can anyone recommend the best Linux OS (versions, etc) to run
 Asterisk?  I'd like to be able to run the Text To Speech apps and some of
 the extended functions of the software (no phone hardware needed, all
Voice
 over IP stuff)... I'm currently running Asterisk on Mandrake Linux (vesion
 10 I think?) but I'm having difficulty compiling the TTS stuff.

 I'm just wondering if there's a widely used version that pretty much works
 with everything...?

I personally use Fedora Core 1 and 2 successfully at home.  Gentoo
seems to be the most widely agreed upon distribution though.  I don't
think anyone would slam you for using Asterisk on it.

HTH,
Leif Madsen.
http://www.asteriskdocs.org
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-28 Thread Seth Remington
On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 09:13, Eric Kirkland wrote:
 I'm having difficulty compiling the TTS stuff.

You aren't very specific about the problems you are having compiling
Festival but on the off chance that your problems were the same ones I
had you might want to check out this:

http://sremington.zapto.org/weblog/2004-07-04_14.52.21.html

-Seth

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-28 Thread Robert Jackson


 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Kirkland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:14 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk
 
 

Well, I am not going to say what is or isn't the best.  (Because
everything is good depending on skill level and or circumstances.) I
personally have three asterisk boxes running on Gentoo 2004.1 with great
success.

Hope this helps,

Robert Jackson
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-28 Thread Deon Rodden
It may sound bad, but I use Fedora Core 1. However, I installed using
reiserfs (my preferred filesystem) and I installed all the updates and had
to custom compile a new kernel (as the stock one that comes with Fedora is
too screwy, and the sources aren't done right and certain programs wouldn't
compile). However, once I did the updates and used a custom compiled kernel,
everything runs fast/smooth on it.  I haven't had an issue compiling
anything Asterisk related, yet. I did have issues with my Redhat 9 server,
and my OpenNA 1.0 server.  Of course, I have put a lot of security and
performance tweaks into my Fedora installation, had to make it less redhat
but now it runs good.

You may not be willing to do all that work; but if you're familiar with
redhat and how they do things and their directory structures and common
commands, I think Fedora Core 1 is a good choice.

Just a FYI. I think you'll find that as long as your favorite distro is
decent, Asterisk will work.

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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk


 Eric Kirkland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi folks; Can anyone recommend the best Linux OS (versions, etc) to
  run Asterisk?

 Best is highly subjective, and asking is likely to provoke a holy war ;)

  I'd like to be able to run the Text To Speech apps and some of the
  extended functions of the software (no phone hardware needed, all
  Voice over IP stuff)... I'm currently running Asterisk on Mandrake
  Linux (vesion 10 I think?) but I'm having difficulty compiling the
  TTS stuff.

 Yes, I found that the TTS resisted my attempts to make it work on a
 Slackware box. However, it works fine on Debian 3.0 (which is also my
 preferred Linux distribution.)

 -- 
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 I thought they were talking about cheap whores - smelly, ugly, brightly
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-28 Thread Kevin Walsh
Peter Corlett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Eric Kirkland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi folks; Can anyone recommend the best Linux OS (versions, etc) to
  run Asterisk?
 
 Best is highly subjective, and asking is likely to provoke a holy war ;)
 
Agreed.  Having said that, Gentoo is clearly the best. :-)

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-28 Thread Mark Woods

I'm not religous about any particular flavor of Linux,
but I am highly partial to Debian, for multiple reasons.

As far as running *, I think one can simply to an
apt-get install asterisk libpri zaptel and be ready to
go.

No, it won't be the absolute latest code, but the Debian
community is pretty good about keeping packages updated.

Debian, to me, is the easiest Linux/unix that I've ever
been around.

-Mark

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-28 Thread Brian D'Arcy
Hi Andy,

Before Asterisk came into my life, I hadn't used Linux since RedHat 4.7.
I did some research and decided to use one of the debian netinst images
this go around, and I couldn't be happier.

While it took me a day stumbling thru the packages and re-learning my
way around, figuring out dependencies to get everything compiled and
working etc...  I've gotta say that the Asterisk + libpri + zaptel + tts
stuff is rock solid, as is the system.  I'm running Debian Woody with
the 2.4 kernel.

This system is also in a heavily used production environment within a
software company.

Brian D'Arcy

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Kirkland
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 6:14 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

Hi folks;  Can anyone recommend the best Linux OS (versions, etc) to run
Asterisk?  I'd like to be able to run the Text To Speech apps and some
of
the extended functions of the software (no phone hardware needed, all
Voice
over IP stuff)... I'm currently running Asterisk on Mandrake Linux
(vesion
10 I think?) but I'm having difficulty compiling the TTS stuff.

I'm just wondering if there's a widely used version that pretty much
works
with everything...?

Andy


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-28 Thread Leif Madsen
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:22:53 -0400, Deon Rodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It may sound bad, but I use Fedora Core 1.

I don't think it sounds bad.  I'm using FC2.  I really like it.  I
haven't done a lot of the advanced stuff on it yet, but zaptel and
Asterisk compiled fine with the stock kernel (after doing a yum
update).  I'm using ztdummy on a PII 350 and MeetMe conferencing
works.  Haven't installed Festival (I tried it once, and found it
fairly unusable for an auto-attendent, and had no other uses in
scripts for it).  Will probably test MOH in the next couple of days.

 However, I installed using
 reiserfs (my preferred filesystem) and I installed all the updates and had
 to custom compile a new kernel (as the stock one that comes with Fedora is
 too screwy, and the sources aren't done right and certain programs wouldn't
 compile). However, once I did the updates and used a custom compiled kernel,
 everything runs fast/smooth on it.  I haven't had an issue compiling
 anything Asterisk related, yet. I did have issues with my Redhat 9 server,
 and my OpenNA 1.0 server.  Of course, I have put a lot of security and
 performance tweaks into my Fedora installation, had to make it less redhat
 but now it runs good.

Obviously whatever works, works.  However, this is what I did to get
my system running on FC2:

- Install FC2 *only* with [X] Development Tools, [X] Kernel Sources
(not really needed as you compile against the build directory, but
nice to have anyways), [X] Editors

- Once installed, do a yum update
- Reboot to make new kernel active
- cd /usr/src/
- Verify that /usr/src/linux-26 is pointed to /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ 
 ^^^ This should get updated when installing the new kernel, but
always good to verify it did update the link and isn't pointing to the
old build directory
- Checkout Asterisk and Zaptel from CVS
- cd /usr/src/zaptel ; make clean ; make linux26 ; make install
- cd /usr/src/asterisk ; make clean ; make install

I didn't have to do anything fancy to get this to work.  Perhaps I
just got lucky, but I think a lot of the problems people find on FC2
is not keeping the system clean at first.  After doing this, I did yum
install's for httpd, mysql-server and dhcpd.  I even compiled
phpmyadmin for mysql-server interface.  Everything is still running
great after at least 2 weeks of use.  This is not a fancy computer
either, scrap PII 350 parts with 256 MB of RAM (wait... 192MB, had a
bad RAM stick in there...)

 Just a FYI. I think you'll find that as long as your favorite distro is
 decent, Asterisk will work.

Agreed.  The *best* Linux distro is the one you are most comfortable with.

Thanks,
Leif Madsen.
http://www.asteriskdocs.org
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-28 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 08:13, Eric Kirkland wrote:
 Hi folks;  Can anyone recommend the best Linux OS (versions, etc) to run
 Asterisk?  I'd like to be able to run the Text To Speech apps and some of
 the extended functions of the software (no phone hardware needed, all Voice
 over IP stuff)... I'm currently running Asterisk on Mandrake Linux (vesion
 10 I think?) but I'm having difficulty compiling the TTS stuff.
 
 I'm just wondering if there's a widely used version that pretty much works
 with everything...?

I'll try to avoid the RMS speech.

At the core linux is just a kernel and a few glue apps. Most of the glue
apps are all from GNU and deviat from one another by less than a
percentage point. 

The only difference really introduced in a linux distro is how
streamlined the install is, and a few of the admin tools.

From recent comments about FC kernels, and my personal feelings about
debian kernels, you are best off compiling a fresh stock kernel. OF
course this advice is getting stale now as of the new kernel development
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-28 Thread Brancaleoni Matteo
sorry, but I cannot resist...

Il mer, 2004-07-28 alle 17:44, Mark Woods ha scritto:
 I'm not religous about any particular flavor of Linux,
 but I am highly partial to Debian, for multiple reasons.

I agree.

snip
 No, it won't be the absolute latest code, but the Debian
 community is pretty good about keeping packages updated.
ah! ah! ah!
really... oh oh, so why debian is eons later in releasing
new packages...

perhaps you're speaking of -unstable debian... that's
wy too unstable.

btw, I'm only joking... nothing serious here :)

Matteo.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-28 Thread Geoff Nordli


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Woods
 Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 8:44 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk
 
 
 I'm not religous about any particular flavor of Linux,
 but I am highly partial to Debian, for multiple reasons.
 
 As far as running *, I think one can simply to an
 apt-get install asterisk libpri zaptel and be ready to
 go.
 
 No, it won't be the absolute latest code, but the Debian
 community is pretty good about keeping packages updated.
 
 Debian, to me, is the easiest Linux/unix that I've ever
 been around.
 
 -Mark
 

If you are running Woody (stable) and want to use more current software then
check out the backports:

http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/stable/asterisk/binary-i386/

Just add deb http://www.backports.org/debian woody asterisk to your
/etc/apt/sources.list file.

If you are running testing or unstable the software is relatively current.
Here is the developer page for asterisk to figure out what software versions
they are running.  The only downside is they have confused some of the
naming conventions so are already at version 1.0.

Have a great day!

Geoff


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-28 Thread Remco Barende
I am running a RedHat Enterprise Linux 3 rebuild. Fairly easy just 
recompile the RedHat 9 SRPMS and off you go :)

I like the fact that updates are supported until at least 2008 :) unlike 
Fedora

The rebuild I use is taolinux.org
I have another box running Gentoo but the Asterisk ebuild is still at 
version 0.9 so I haven't tried installing * on that box yet (I don't like 
installing from cvs).


On Wed, 28 Jul 2004, Eric Kirkland wrote:
Hi folks;  Can anyone recommend the best Linux OS (versions, etc) to run
Asterisk?  I'd like to be able to run the Text To Speech apps and some of
the extended functions of the software (no phone hardware needed, all Voice
over IP stuff)... I'm currently running Asterisk on Mandrake Linux (vesion
10 I think?) but I'm having difficulty compiling the TTS stuff.
I'm just wondering if there's a widely used version that pretty much works
with everything...?
Andy
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-28 Thread usedcanon
Peter Corlett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Eric Kirkland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi folks; Can anyone recommend the best Linux OS (versions, etc) to
  run Asterisk?
 
 Best is highly subjective, and asking is likely to provoke a holy war ;)

Agreed.  Having said that, Gentoo is clearly the best. :-)

So many people mention Gentto, however I have found very little help/guide
for this particular distro. Any pointers ?

Umar

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-28 Thread Peter Svensson
We use Asterisk successfully on White Box Linux (which is derived from 
the freely available part of RedHat Enterprise Linux 3.0). We package our 
own rpm:s of asterisk since we have a few local modifications.

Peter


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-28 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 13:12, usedcanon wrote:
 Peter Corlett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Eric Kirkland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi folks; Can anyone recommend the best Linux OS (versions, etc) to
   run Asterisk?
  
  Best is highly subjective, and asking is likely to provoke a holy war ;)
 
 Agreed.  Having said that, Gentoo is clearly the best. :-)
 
 So many people mention Gentto, however I have found very little help/guide
 for this particular distro. Any pointers ?

Yes, Gentoo users are actually just a VOCAL minority. Go check stats
somewhere and find out Debian and it's deriviatives really rule the
roost. Pick the flavor of debian that matches your tast and move on.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-28 Thread Chris Glover
Hi,

I use Gentoo, and find it's documentation and package management
excellent.

Try here

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/index.xml

Chris

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On Wed, 28 Jul 2004, usedcanon wrote:

 Peter Corlett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Eric Kirkland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi folks; Can anyone recommend the best Linux OS (versions, etc) to
   run Asterisk?
  
  Best is highly subjective, and asking is likely to provoke a holy war ;)
 
 Agreed.  Having said that, Gentoo is clearly the best. :-)

 So many people mention Gentto, however I have found very little help/guide
 for this particular distro. Any pointers ?

 Umar

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-28 Thread Kevin Walsh
usedcanon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Peter Corlett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Eric Kirkland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi folks; Can anyone recommend the best Linux OS (versions, etc) to
   run Asterisk? 
   
  Best is highly subjective, and asking is likely to provoke a holy war
  ;) 
  
 Agreed.  Having said that, Gentoo is clearly the best. :-)
 
 So many people mention Gentto, however I have found very little help/guide
 for this particular distro. Any pointers ?
 
You could try the distro's website:

http://www.gentoo.org/

There's a lot of information in there.  That website is also the first
result in a Google search for gentoo, of course.  Where were you
looking?

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Re: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-28 Thread Mark Woods

  No, it won't be the absolute latest code, but the Debian
  community is pretty good about keeping packages updated.
 ah! ah! ah!
 really... oh oh, so why debian is eons later in releasing
 new packages...
 
 perhaps you're speaking of -unstable debian... that's
 wy too unstable.

A...but I *am* running unstable!  And it's been quite,
well, stable!

:)

-Mark

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-28 Thread Duane Cox
Of course, if you really want _ultimate_ performance, build your own distro.


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Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 3:22 PM
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk


 On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 13:12, usedcanon wrote:
  Peter Corlett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Eric Kirkland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi folks; Can anyone recommend the best Linux OS (versions, etc) to
run Asterisk?
   
   Best is highly subjective, and asking is likely to provoke a holy
war ;)
  
  Agreed.  Having said that, Gentoo is clearly the best. :-)
 
  So many people mention Gentto, however I have found very little
help/guide
  for this particular distro. Any pointers ?

 Yes, Gentoo users are actually just a VOCAL minority. Go check stats
 somewhere and find out Debian and it's deriviatives really rule the
 roost. Pick the flavor of debian that matches your tast and move on.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk

2004-07-28 Thread Stephen R. Darragh
We use Debian here and it works just fine (using Asterisk CVS head
rather than the Debian packages, though).

On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 21:31, mattf wrote:
 Oh boy, time for distro wars :)
 
 I have found that for some reason Asterisk seems to run better on Slackware
 than Redhat, that's just my personal non-scientific observations, but we
 have 4 Asterisk servers in production(two redhat 9, one slackware 9.1 and
 one slackware 10.0) with almost identical hardware and the Slackware boxes
 have a lower average load over the same Asterisk usage. I have also talked
 with several people who are very happy with Mandrake, Gentoo and Debian.
 Those are the distros that most of the Asterisk crowd seem to use. There is
 also an Asterisk-centric distro but I haven't heard much about it lately.
 
 And as always check out the Wiki:
 http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+linux+distributions
 
 MATT---
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Kirkland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:14 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Best Linux for Asterisk
 
 
 Hi folks;  Can anyone recommend the best Linux OS (versions, etc) to run
 Asterisk?  I'd like to be able to run the Text To Speech apps and some of
 the extended functions of the software (no phone hardware needed, all Voice
 over IP stuff)... I'm currently running Asterisk on Mandrake Linux (vesion
 10 I think?) but I'm having difficulty compiling the TTS stuff.
 
 I'm just wondering if there's a widely used version that pretty much works
 with everything...?
 
 Andy
 
 
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