Re: [Asterisk-Users] Booting * from CF
On 02/01/2005 at 11:21 Michael Graves wrote: Hi All, I've read J.R. Richardson's paper Create an Embedded Asterisk Server which outlines making a Debian server that boots from a compressed disc image on a CF card. I'm really interested in this as I want my * server to be more like an appliance than a PC. However, the paper is only an outline and some of the processes of pruning the installation down to a minimum are beyond my Linux skills. http://www.automated.it/asterisk/asterisk-cf.htm That being the case, and CF cards being bigger and cheaper every month, does anyone have an experience building a server that simply boots from a 512 MB or 1 GB CF card? Is that big enough? It really depends on what you want to do, are you thinking of storing voicemail on the CF? The above link is to install onto a 64mb CF card (can be used on bigger cards too if required) Andy ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Booting * from CF
Just remember that CF cards have a limited life as far as read/write cycles are concerned. Transcend says that their CF can handle 1,000,000 program/erase cycles before failure. I think, in practical experience, that this is way high. My experience is between 50K and 200K. --- Kelly D Griffin Network Engineer Tantella Wireless http://tantella.com 479.273.9992 Voice 479.464.8998 Fax -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Powell Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 4:32 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Booting * from CF On 02/01/2005 at 11:21 Michael Graves wrote: Hi All, I've read J.R. Richardson's paper Create an Embedded Asterisk Server which outlines making a Debian server that boots from a compressed disc image on a CF card. I'm really interested in this as I want my * server to be more like an appliance than a PC. However, the paper is only an outline and some of the processes of pruning the installation down to a minimum are beyond my Linux skills. http://www.automated.it/asterisk/asterisk-cf.htm That being the case, and CF cards being bigger and cheaper every month, does anyone have an experience building a server that simply boots from a 512 MB or 1 GB CF card? Is that big enough? It really depends on what you want to do, are you thinking of storing voicemail on the CF? The above link is to install onto a 64mb CF card (can be used on bigger cards too if required) Andy ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Booting * from CF
i work myself on developing such an embedded asterisk. there is no major problem, as long as you are careful when stripping out the underwood of the core system. my system boots of flash, loads /etc /var into ramdisk, so minimal write cycles are wasted for configuration changes voicemail etc. this data is wrote back only on user demand, voicemail is set up to mail the sound files immediately (and there is a nice cron job for deleting and renaming the soundfiles after 5 or so days... i think i found the bash-script somewhere on voip-info.org). of course, in case of power failure you've got some problems, when those precious voicemails are gone... system based on gentoo linux, stripped out whole docs, gcc, kernel sources, unused programs libs. setup on 256 MB flashdisk, but would advice to use a 512 card. sys running on a p4 at this time, will be migrated to some via eden - microboard without hd fan. kind regards, michael Am Dienstag, 4. Januar 2005 15:12 schrieb Kelly Griffin: Just remember that CF cards have a limited life as far as read/write cycles are concerned. Transcend says that their CF can handle 1,000,000 program/erase cycles before failure. I think, in practical experience, that this is way high. My experience is between 50K and 200K. --- Kelly D Griffin Network Engineer Tantella Wireless http://tantella.com 479.273.9992 Voice 479.464.8998 Fax -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Powell Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 4:32 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Booting * from CF On 02/01/2005 at 11:21 Michael Graves wrote: Hi All, I've read J.R. Richardson's paper Create an Embedded Asterisk Server which outlines making a Debian server that boots from a compressed disc image on a CF card. I'm really interested in this as I want my * server to be more like an appliance than a PC. However, the paper is only an outline and some of the processes of pruning the installation down to a minimum are beyond my Linux skills. http://www.automated.it/asterisk/asterisk-cf.htm That being the case, and CF cards being bigger and cheaper every month, does anyone have an experience building a server that simply boots from a 512 MB or 1 GB CF card? Is that big enough? It really depends on what you want to do, are you thinking of storing voicemail on the CF? The above link is to install onto a 64mb CF card (can be used on bigger cards too if required) Andy ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Booting * from CF
Hi All, I've read J.R. Richardson's paper Create an Embedded Asterisk Server which outlines making a Debian server that boots from a compressed disc image on a CF card. I'm really interested in this as I want my * server to be more like an appliance than a PC. However, the paper is only an outline and some of the processes of pruning the installation down to a minimum are beyond my Linux skills. That being the case, and CF cards being bigger and cheaper every month, does anyone have an experience building a server that simply boots from a 512 MB or 1 GB CF card? Is that big enough? Michael -- Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sr. Product Specialist www.pixelpower.com Pixel Power Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] o713-861-4005 o800-905-6412 c713-201-1262 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Booting * from CF
Michael Graves wrote: Hi All, I've read J.R. Richardson's paper Create an Embedded Asterisk Server which outlines making a Debian server that boots from a compressed disc image on a CF card. I'm really interested in this as I want my * server to be more like an appliance than a PC. However, the paper is only an outline and some of the processes of pruning the installation down to a minimum are beyond my Linux skills. That being the case, and CF cards being bigger and cheaper every month, does anyone have an experience building a server that simply boots from a 512 MB or 1 GB CF card? Is that big enough? Michael -- Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sr. Product Specialist www.pixelpower.com Pixel Power Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] o713-861-4005 o800-905-6412 c713-201-1262 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Here is one that runs on a couple of different embedded systems: http://www.krisk.org/astlinux/ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Booting * from CF
On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 09:47:22 -0800, Steven P. Donegan wrote: Michael Graves wrote: Hi All, I've read J.R. Richardson's paper Create an Embedded Asterisk Server which outlines making a Debian server that boots from a compressed disc image on a CF card. I'm really interested in this as I want my * server to be more like an appliance than a PC. However, the paper is only an outline and some of the processes of pruning the installation down to a minimum are beyond my Linux skills. That being the case, and CF cards being bigger and cheaper every month, does anyone have an experience building a server that simply boots from a 512 MB or 1 GB CF card? Is that big enough? Michael Here is one that runs on a couple of different embedded systems: http://www.krisk.org/astlinux/ Yeah, I'm familiar with this. I even own a Soekris box for my firewall. However, I need something with more CPU power and the ability to take a TDM400 card. So I'm really trying to make the plain vanilla PC that I presently use into something that's more robust. I'd like to eliminate the HD and make certain that it reboots quickly into a fully running * server. I see that the Xorcom Rapid ISO sets up the core of what I need. Then I just have to tweak the installation for my * config. It says that it requires 600 MB of HD space. With 1 GB CF cards under $100 I'm thinking that this is a route I could pursue. I don't need much VM storage so the lack of a HD is no problem. Michael -- Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sr. Product Specialist www.pixelpower.com Pixel Power Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] o713-861-4005 o800-905-6412 c713-201-1262 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Booting * from CF
You should be able to boot a full system from a 32M card without a problem. I've read J.R. Richardson's paper Create an Embedded Asterisk Server which outlines making a Debian server that boots from a compressed disc image on a CF card. I'm really interested in this as I want my * server to be more like an appliance than a PC. However, the paper is only an outline and some of the processes of pruning the installation down to a minimum are beyond my Linux skills. That being the case, and CF cards being bigger and cheaper every month, does anyone have an experience building a server that simply boots from a 512 MB or 1 GB CF card? Is that big enough? 256M is probably the cheapest card to get in terms of megs required to dollar ratio at the moment, with 1G cards getting cheaper by the day... Locally wal-mart has Lexar 32M CF cards for $18 Canadian. They make great routers. :) ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Booting * from CF
Michael Graves wrote: Yeah, I'm familiar with this. I even own a Soekris box for my firewall. However, I need something with more CPU power and the ability to take a TDM400 card. So I'm really trying to make the plain vanilla PC that I presently use into something that's more robust. I'd like to eliminate the HD and make certain that it reboots quickly into a fully running * server. I see that the Xorcom Rapid ISO sets up the core of what I need. Then I just have to tweak the installation for my * config. It says that it requires 600 MB of HD space. With 1 GB CF cards under $100 I'm thinking that this is a route I could pursue. I don't need much VM storage so the lack of a HD is no problem. Michael Micheal, There is nothing special in AstLinux (other than the kernel) for the NS SC1100 (Soekris Net4801). More than anything, it is built to run from CF. As a matter of fact, I have it running on a P3 1.2ghz with a IDE - CF adapter. All you will need to do is build a new kernel that supports whatever hardware you have. As a side note, you may want to wait a few days because I am working on the next major release, and the core is down to 55mb. It will use ipkg for any additional software that was stripped from the current AstLinux to get to that size. This of course includes Asterisk 1.0.3, Zaptel, (and everything else listed on the site). -- Kristian Kielhofner ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
