[Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with IAX?

2004-02-02 Thread Jim Flagg
With a service like http://www.freshtel.net/?show=home that uses IAX and has servers 
in Australia,
is it possible for the  audio streams to take a different path than the call setup and 
control?
In other words can it work like SIP with canreinvite where the two endpoint negotiate 
audio
streams between themselves rather than though the FreshTel server?

Thanks
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with IAX?

2004-02-02 Thread Brian Capouch
Reading this thread leads me to chance asking a somewhat broad question 
of the gurus: is there a place in VoIP for multicasting?

Streaming scenarios, as well as conferencing, would seem to be ripe for 
that sort of integration, but I know nothing more about it beyond the 
fact that multicasting is oft-mentioned, but as far as I can tell (maybe 
kphone's vat hooks are an exception?) seldom implemented. . .

Thanks in advance for any light that might be shed.

B.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with IAX?

2004-02-02 Thread Adam Hart
yes, IAX does direct transfers - when both ends confirm they can see each
other, the asterisk server tells them to talk directly. With the firefly
network, we're seeing 90%+ connecting directly. Just to clarify, the audio
doesn't separate from the call control.

-Adam

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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with IAX?


 With a service like http://www.freshtel.net/?show=home that uses IAX and
has servers in Australia,
 is it possible for the  audio streams to take a different path than the
call setup and control?
 In other words can it work like SIP with canreinvite where the two
endpoint negotiate audio
 streams between themselves rather than though the FreshTel server?

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with IAX?

2004-02-02 Thread T. Chan
Dear All,

Now, it seems that both IAX and SIP can have the two endpoints communicate
the media directly without the media stream passing through the asterisk,
can we do the same with H323 too?

TC

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IAX?


yes, IAX does direct transfers - when both ends confirm they can see each
other, the asterisk server tells them to talk directly. With the firefly
network, we're seeing 90%+ connecting directly. Just to clarify, the audio
doesn't separate from the call control.

-Adam

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From: Jim Flagg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 1:59 AM
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with IAX?


 With a service like http://www.freshtel.net/?show=home that uses IAX and
has servers in Australia,
 is it possible for the  audio streams to take a different path than the
call setup and control?
 In other words can it work like SIP with canreinvite where the two
endpoint negotiate audio
 streams between themselves rather than though the FreshTel server?

 Thanks
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with IAX?

2004-02-02 Thread Adam Hart
Sure, if you want to code it :) Wouldn't be that hard either. Actually what
would be really sexy (if that's the word) is native transfers between H.323
and SIP given they both use the same RTP (correct me if I'm wrong on that)

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Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 9:56 AM
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IAX?


 Dear All,

 Now, it seems that both IAX and SIP can have the two endpoints communicate
 the media directly without the media stream passing through the asterisk,
 can we do the same with H323 too?

 TC

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 Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 5:28 PM
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 IAX?


 yes, IAX does direct transfers - when both ends confirm they can see each
 other, the asterisk server tells them to talk directly. With the firefly
 network, we're seeing 90%+ connecting directly. Just to clarify, the audio
 doesn't separate from the call control.

 -Adam

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 From: Jim Flagg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 1:59 AM
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with IAX?


  With a service like http://www.freshtel.net/?show=home that uses IAX and
 has servers in Australia,
  is it possible for the  audio streams to take a different path than the
 call setup and control?
  In other words can it work like SIP with canreinvite where the two
 endpoint negotiate audio
  streams between themselves rather than though the FreshTel server?
 
  Thanks
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with IAX?

2004-02-02 Thread Marc Fargas
Is it possible to make audio streams go client to client with H.323 ? (both
client being H323)

Thanks!

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Enviado el: lunes, 02 de febrero de 2004 23:56
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Asunto: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with IAX?

Dear All,

Now, it seems that both IAX and SIP can have the two endpoints communicate
the media directly without the media stream passing through the asterisk,
can we do the same with H323 too?

TC

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Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 5:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
IAX?


yes, IAX does direct transfers - when both ends confirm they can see each
other, the asterisk server tells them to talk directly. With the firefly
network, we're seeing 90%+ connecting directly. Just to clarify, the audio
doesn't separate from the call control.

-Adam

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From: Jim Flagg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 1:59 AM
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with IAX?


 With a service like http://www.freshtel.net/?show=home that uses IAX and
has servers in Australia,
 is it possible for the  audio streams to take a different path than the
call setup and control?
 In other words can it work like SIP with canreinvite where the two
endpoint negotiate audio
 streams between themselves rather than though the FreshTel server?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with IAX?

2004-02-02 Thread Adam Hart
If you define possible as is H.323 capable of it, then yes.
If you define possible as is asterisk currently capable of it, then no.

It wouldn't be too hard, look in channels/h323/ast_h323.cpp to see where
Jeremy started on it. You just have to get the openh323 lib to initiate the
transfer.

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Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 10:30 AM
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
IAX?


 Is it possible to make audio streams go client to client with H.323 ?
(both
 client being H323)

 Thanks!

 -Mensaje original-
 De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de T. Chan
 Enviado el: lunes, 02 de febrero de 2004 23:56
 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Asunto: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
IAX?

 Dear All,

 Now, it seems that both IAX and SIP can have the two endpoints communicate
 the media directly without the media stream passing through the asterisk,
 can we do the same with H323 too?

 TC

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 Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 5:28 PM
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 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
 IAX?


 yes, IAX does direct transfers - when both ends confirm they can see each
 other, the asterisk server tells them to talk directly. With the firefly
 network, we're seeing 90%+ connecting directly. Just to clarify, the audio
 doesn't separate from the call control.

 -Adam

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 From: Jim Flagg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 1:59 AM
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with IAX?


  With a service like http://www.freshtel.net/?show=home that uses IAX and
 has servers in Australia,
  is it possible for the  audio streams to take a different path than the
 call setup and control?
  In other words can it work like SIP with canreinvite where the two
 endpoint negotiate audio
  streams between themselves rather than though the FreshTel server?
 
  Thanks
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with IAX?

2004-02-02 Thread Jeremy Jones
Generally speaking, unless you're using an rtp proxy, the rtp audio
should go client--client.  H323 does the call setup and teardown and
such, but the audio stream is usually direct.

Jeremy 

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Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 4:31 PM
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Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
IAX?

Is it possible to make audio streams go client to client with H.323 ?
(both
client being H323)

Thanks!

-Mensaje original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de T. Chan
Enviado el: lunes, 02 de febrero de 2004 23:56
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
IAX?

Dear All,

Now, it seems that both IAX and SIP can have the two endpoints
communicate
the media directly without the media stream passing through the
asterisk,
can we do the same with H323 too?

TC

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Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 5:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
IAX?


yes, IAX does direct transfers - when both ends confirm they can see
each
other, the asterisk server tells them to talk directly. With the firefly
network, we're seeing 90%+ connecting directly. Just to clarify, the
audio
doesn't separate from the call control.

-Adam

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From: Jim Flagg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 1:59 AM
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
IAX?


 With a service like http://www.freshtel.net/?show=home that uses IAX
and
has servers in Australia,
 is it possible for the  audio streams to take a different path than
the
call setup and control?
 In other words can it work like SIP with canreinvite where the two
endpoint negotiate audio
 streams between themselves rather than though the FreshTel server?

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with IAX?

2004-02-02 Thread T. Chan
Would that be something that Jeremy would work on?

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If you define possible as is H.323 capable of it, then yes.
If you define possible as is asterisk currently capable of it, then no.

It wouldn't be too hard, look in channels/h323/ast_h323.cpp to see where
Jeremy started on it. You just have to get the openh323 lib to initiate the
transfer.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 10:30 AM
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
IAX?


 Is it possible to make audio streams go client to client with H.323 ?
(both
 client being H323)

 Thanks!

 -Mensaje original-
 De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Enviado el: lunes, 02 de febrero de 2004 23:56
 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Asunto: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
IAX?

 Dear All,

 Now, it seems that both IAX and SIP can have the two endpoints communicate
 the media directly without the media stream passing through the asterisk,
 can we do the same with H323 too?

 TC

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 Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 5:28 PM
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 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
 IAX?


 yes, IAX does direct transfers - when both ends confirm they can see each
 other, the asterisk server tells them to talk directly. With the firefly
 network, we're seeing 90%+ connecting directly. Just to clarify, the audio
 doesn't separate from the call control.

 -Adam

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 From: Jim Flagg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 1:59 AM
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with IAX?


  With a service like http://www.freshtel.net/?show=home that uses IAX and
 has servers in Australia,
  is it possible for the  audio streams to take a different path than the
 call setup and control?
  In other words can it work like SIP with canreinvite where the two
 endpoint negotiate audio
  streams between themselves rather than though the FreshTel server?
 
  Thanks
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with IAX?

2004-02-02 Thread Adam Hart
I think it would be fair to say Jeremy isn't really a fan of H.323 and,
although he will fix bugs, (IMO) he won't be developing it anymore. You
should give it a shot.

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 Would that be something that Jeremy would work on?

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 Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 6:36 PM
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 IAX?


 If you define possible as is H.323 capable of it, then yes.
 If you define possible as is asterisk currently capable of it, then no.

 It wouldn't be too hard, look in channels/h323/ast_h323.cpp to see where
 Jeremy started on it. You just have to get the openh323 lib to initiate
the
 transfer.

 - Original Message -
 From: Marc Fargas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 10:30 AM
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
 IAX?


  Is it possible to make audio streams go client to client with H.323 ?
 (both
  client being H323)
 
  Thanks!
 
  -Mensaje original-
  De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de T. Chan
  Enviado el: lunes, 02 de febrero de 2004 23:56
  Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Asunto: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
 IAX?
 
  Dear All,
 
  Now, it seems that both IAX and SIP can have the two endpoints
communicate
  the media directly without the media stream passing through the
asterisk,
  can we do the same with H323 too?
 
  TC
 
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  Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 5:28 PM
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  Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
  IAX?
 
 
  yes, IAX does direct transfers - when both ends confirm they can see
each
  other, the asterisk server tells them to talk directly. With the firefly
  network, we're seeing 90%+ connecting directly. Just to clarify, the
audio
  doesn't separate from the call control.
 
  -Adam
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Jim Flagg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 1:59 AM
  Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
IAX?
 
 
   With a service like http://www.freshtel.net/?show=home that uses IAX
and
  has servers in Australia,
   is it possible for the  audio streams to take a different path than
the
  call setup and control?
   In other words can it work like SIP with canreinvite where the two
  endpoint negotiate audio
   streams between themselves rather than though the FreshTel server?
  
   Thanks
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with IAX?

2004-02-02 Thread Marc Fargas
That doesn't accord to m tests.
Actually I have gnugk as the gatekeeper then if I call directly both clients
it goes fine but if they're connected trough asterisk sound is really really
bad so it seems asterisk stays on the line and that audio is going between
it. (both clients and asterisk are on the same network)

Strange ugh? ;)

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Asunto: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with IAX?

Generally speaking, unless you're using an rtp proxy, the rtp audio
should go client--client.  H323 does the call setup and teardown and
such, but the audio stream is usually direct.

Jeremy 

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Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
IAX?

Is it possible to make audio streams go client to client with H.323 ?
(both
client being H323)

Thanks!

-Mensaje original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de T. Chan
Enviado el: lunes, 02 de febrero de 2004 23:56
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Asunto: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
IAX?

Dear All,

Now, it seems that both IAX and SIP can have the two endpoints
communicate
the media directly without the media stream passing through the
asterisk,
can we do the same with H323 too?

TC

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Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 5:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
IAX?


yes, IAX does direct transfers - when both ends confirm they can see
each
other, the asterisk server tells them to talk directly. With the firefly
network, we're seeing 90%+ connecting directly. Just to clarify, the
audio
doesn't separate from the call control.

-Adam

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From: Jim Flagg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 1:59 AM
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
IAX?


 With a service like http://www.freshtel.net/?show=home that uses IAX
and
has servers in Australia,
 is it possible for the  audio streams to take a different path than
the
call setup and control?
 In other words can it work like SIP with canreinvite where the two
endpoint negotiate audio
 streams between themselves rather than though the FreshTel server?

 Thanks
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with IAX?

2004-02-02 Thread Marc Fargas
Thanks a lot I didn't see tose posts, so I'll have to migarte to SIP as I
can see.. Do I need any other software or only Asterisk and my FXO's and
FXS's firmwares migrated to SIP ?

Thanks a lot.

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De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Adam Hart
Enviado el: martes, 03 de febrero de 2004 0:52
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with IAX?

I think it would be fair to say Jeremy isn't really a fan of H.323 and,
although he will fix bugs, (IMO) he won't be developing it anymore. You
should give it a shot.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 10:50 AM
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
IAX?


 Would that be something that Jeremy would work on?

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 Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 6:36 PM
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 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
 IAX?


 If you define possible as is H.323 capable of it, then yes.
 If you define possible as is asterisk currently capable of it, then no.

 It wouldn't be too hard, look in channels/h323/ast_h323.cpp to see where
 Jeremy started on it. You just have to get the openh323 lib to initiate
the
 transfer.

 - Original Message -
 From: Marc Fargas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 10:30 AM
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
 IAX?


  Is it possible to make audio streams go client to client with H.323 ?
 (both
  client being H323)
 
  Thanks!
 
  -Mensaje original-
  De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de T. Chan
  Enviado el: lunes, 02 de febrero de 2004 23:56
  Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Asunto: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
 IAX?
 
  Dear All,
 
  Now, it seems that both IAX and SIP can have the two endpoints
communicate
  the media directly without the media stream passing through the
asterisk,
  can we do the same with H323 too?
 
  TC
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Adam Hart
  Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 5:28 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
  IAX?
 
 
  yes, IAX does direct transfers - when both ends confirm they can see
each
  other, the asterisk server tells them to talk directly. With the firefly
  network, we're seeing 90%+ connecting directly. Just to clarify, the
audio
  doesn't separate from the call control.
 
  -Adam
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Jim Flagg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 1:59 AM
  Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
IAX?
 
 
   With a service like http://www.freshtel.net/?show=home that uses IAX
and
  has servers in Australia,
   is it possible for the  audio streams to take a different path than
the
  call setup and control?
   In other words can it work like SIP with canreinvite where the two
  endpoint negotiate audio
   streams between themselves rather than though the FreshTel server?
  
   Thanks
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with IAX?

2004-02-02 Thread Adam Hart
what clients are you using? They probably won't support SIP

- Original Message - 
From: Marc Fargas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 11:18 AM
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
IAX?


 Thanks a lot I didn't see tose posts, so I'll have to migarte to SIP as I
 can see.. Do I need any other software or only Asterisk and my FXO's and
 FXS's firmwares migrated to SIP ?

 Thanks a lot.

 -Mensaje original-
 De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Adam Hart
 Enviado el: martes, 03 de febrero de 2004 0:52
 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Asunto: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
IAX?

 I think it would be fair to say Jeremy isn't really a fan of H.323 and,
 although he will fix bugs, (IMO) he won't be developing it anymore. You
 should give it a shot.

 - Original Message - 
 From: T. Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 10:50 AM
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
 IAX?


  Would that be something that Jeremy would work on?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Adam Hart
  Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 6:36 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
  IAX?
 
 
  If you define possible as is H.323 capable of it, then yes.
  If you define possible as is asterisk currently capable of it, then no.
 
  It wouldn't be too hard, look in channels/h323/ast_h323.cpp to see where
  Jeremy started on it. You just have to get the openh323 lib to initiate
 the
  transfer.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Marc Fargas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 10:30 AM
  Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
  IAX?
 
 
   Is it possible to make audio streams go client to client with H.323 ?
  (both
   client being H323)
  
   Thanks!
  
   -Mensaje original-
   De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de T. Chan
   Enviado el: lunes, 02 de febrero de 2004 23:56
   Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Asunto: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint
with
  IAX?
  
   Dear All,
  
   Now, it seems that both IAX and SIP can have the two endpoints
 communicate
   the media directly without the media stream passing through the
 asterisk,
   can we do the same with H323 too?
  
   TC
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Adam Hart
   Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 5:28 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint
with
   IAX?
  
  
   yes, IAX does direct transfers - when both ends confirm they can see
 each
   other, the asterisk server tells them to talk directly. With the
firefly
   network, we're seeing 90%+ connecting directly. Just to clarify, the
 audio
   doesn't separate from the call control.
  
   -Adam
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Jim Flagg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 1:59 AM
   Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
 IAX?
  
  
With a service like http://www.freshtel.net/?show=home that uses IAX
 and
   has servers in Australia,
is it possible for the  audio streams to take a different path than
 the
   call setup and control?
In other words can it work like SIP with canreinvite where the two
   endpoint negotiate audio
streams between themselves rather than though the FreshTel server?
   
Thanks
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with IAX?

2004-02-02 Thread Marc Fargas
FXS and FXO from http://micronet.info they have firmwares for SIP but I had
problems when I tried it time ago.

Continuing on the H.323 option I've being taking a look at my gatekeeper and
it accepts a TransferCall source destination command on it's telnet
interface. Is there anyway to make Asterisk connect to the telnet interface
and Transfer the call throught it ? (the telnet interface doesn't require it
to authenticate only to say TransferCall source e164 dest e164)

I'll try upgrading SIP anyway I think ;) But I didn't succed last time (I
think the problem was with the FXO itself not Asterisk)

Also taking a look at the sourcecode of h323 channel there's a function
about Forward call, any idea ?

Thanks a lot for your help,
  Good Night!

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Asunto: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with IAX?

what clients are you using? They probably won't support SIP

- Original Message - 
From: Marc Fargas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 11:18 AM
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
IAX?


 Thanks a lot I didn't see tose posts, so I'll have to migarte to SIP as I
 can see.. Do I need any other software or only Asterisk and my FXO's and
 FXS's firmwares migrated to SIP ?

 Thanks a lot.

 -Mensaje original-
 De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Adam Hart
 Enviado el: martes, 03 de febrero de 2004 0:52
 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Asunto: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
IAX?

 I think it would be fair to say Jeremy isn't really a fan of H.323 and,
 although he will fix bugs, (IMO) he won't be developing it anymore. You
 should give it a shot.

 - Original Message - 
 From: T. Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 10:50 AM
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
 IAX?


  Would that be something that Jeremy would work on?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Adam Hart
  Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 6:36 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
  IAX?
 
 
  If you define possible as is H.323 capable of it, then yes.
  If you define possible as is asterisk currently capable of it, then no.
 
  It wouldn't be too hard, look in channels/h323/ast_h323.cpp to see where
  Jeremy started on it. You just have to get the openh323 lib to initiate
 the
  transfer.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Marc Fargas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 10:30 AM
  Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
  IAX?
 
 
   Is it possible to make audio streams go client to client with H.323 ?
  (both
   client being H323)
  
   Thanks!
  
   -Mensaje original-
   De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de T. Chan
   Enviado el: lunes, 02 de febrero de 2004 23:56
   Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Asunto: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint
with
  IAX?
  
   Dear All,
  
   Now, it seems that both IAX and SIP can have the two endpoints
 communicate
   the media directly without the media stream passing through the
 asterisk,
   can we do the same with H323 too?
  
   TC
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Adam Hart
   Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 5:28 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint
with
   IAX?
  
  
   yes, IAX does direct transfers - when both ends confirm they can see
 each
   other, the asterisk server tells them to talk directly. With the
firefly
   network, we're seeing 90%+ connecting directly. Just to clarify, the
 audio
   doesn't separate from the call control.
  
   -Adam
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Jim Flagg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 1:59 AM
   Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with
 IAX?
  
  
With a service like http://www.freshtel.net/?show=home that uses IAX
 and
   has servers in Australia,
is it possible for the  audio streams to take a different path than
 the
   call setup and control?
In other words can it work like SIP with canreinvite where the two
   endpoint negotiate audio
streams between themselves rather than though the FreshTel server?
   
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with IAX?

2004-02-02 Thread Jim Flagg
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From: Adam Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with IAX?


 yes, IAX does direct transfers - when both ends confirm they can see each
 other, the asterisk server tells them to talk directly. With the firefly
 network, we're seeing 90%+ connecting directly.

Just to clarify, the audio doesn't separate from the call control.

Thanks for the reply.

Can you tell more about that last statement.
If the audio doesn't serparate from the call control can the server
keep track of how long the clients stay connected?  Can it see
DTMF that is sent between the clients and act upon it?  Does IAX
do this by default of do you have to set a parameter in IAX.conf.

Thanks again
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Can audio streams go client to cleint with IAX?

2004-02-02 Thread Adam Hart
  yes, IAX does direct transfers - when both ends confirm they can see
each
  other, the asterisk server tells them to talk directly. With the firefly
  network, we're seeing 90%+ connecting directly.

 Just to clarify, the audio doesn't separate from the call control.

 Thanks for the reply.

 Can you tell more about that last statement.
 If the audio doesn't serparate from the call control can the server
 keep track of how long the clients stay connected?  Can it see
 DTMF that is sent between the clients and act upon it?  Does IAX
 do this by default of do you have to set a parameter in IAX.conf.

the server doesn't know, the call is completely between the clients from
then on. Yep, IAX does it by default.

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