Re: [Asterisk-Users] Don't use CDRTool From AG-projescts
On Thu, 2006-06-22 at 20:53 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: From their README Disclaimer -- The information provided by CDRTool documentation is not always enough to successfully complete the installation and deployment of CDRTool. Most of the configuration tasks are related to setting up components outside CDRTool environment. Configuration of components like MySQL server, FreeRadius server, Cisco gateways, MediaProxy or SIP Express Router require a project management approach in place of a step by step installation procedure. This says everything about the OP, looking at the often totally stupid posts on his part. C'est la vie. -- Dave Cotton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE : Re: [Asterisk-Users] Don't use CDRTool From AG-projescts
Steve, I do hope ag-projects to keep their products with commercial licences ! Harry PS: most of billing (or not) open source projects provide a good documentation . --- Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Alex Robar wrote: Harry, Fisrt ag-projects talk about is product like a gpl software however they don't provide at least some documentation for non commercial users . Are they required to release docs? It's a nice bonus, but there's nothing forcing them to. If you want docs, you could always be helpful and write some yourself. try to call them !! i'll offer you some money . You can not Call them for some advices ... And why should you be able to? Again, it's nice to have phone support, but in no way is it required. ViciDial doesn't have phone support, but people use it. FreePBX doesn't offer phone support, but it's pretty popular. It's really a bad product don't waste your time to setup it. this enterprise must be fogotten it's ag-projects . it's not a reliable society ... more and more Sounds to me like complaints from someone who couldn't figure out how to get the product setup to me. If you have valid complaints then by all means, post it to the list as a warning... But even then, there's no need to openly bash a product or company you don't like. This isn't the forum for such things. Alex -- Alex Robar [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From their README Disclaimer -- The information provided by CDRTool documentation is not always enough to successfully complete the installation and deployment of CDRTool. Most of the configuration tasks are related to setting up components outside CDRTool environment. Configuration of components like MySQL server, FreeRadius server, Cisco gateways, MediaProxy or SIP Express Router require a project management approach in place of a step by step installation procedure. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: RE : Re: [Asterisk-Users] Don't use CDRTool From AG-projescts
You should have been working with asterisk about four years ago, lol! Talk about no docs. Most opensource projects provide read between the lines and Google the error to get a clue, your brains, trial and error docs. At least in my experience. Want some good docs? Maybe read the docs for MySQL server, FreeRadius server, Cisco gateways, MediaProxy or SIP Express Router and then retry CDRTool. Don't slam someone's project because you cannot figure it out and are not willing to pay $$$! Comes off as greedy to me. Guess I have not setup the Harry Potter to junk folder rule on this machine yet, thanks for reminding me. Thanks, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, I do hope ag-projects to keep their products with commercial licences ! Harry PS: most of billing (or not) open source projects provide a good documentation . --- Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Alex Robar wrote: Harry, Fisrt ag-projects talk about is product like a gpl software however they don't provide at least some documentation for non commercial users . Are they required to release docs? It's a nice bonus, but there's nothing forcing them to. If you want docs, you could always be helpful and write some yourself. try to call them !! i'll offer you some money . You can not Call them for some advices ... And why should you be able to? Again, it's nice to have phone support, but in no way is it required. ViciDial doesn't have phone support, but people use it. FreePBX doesn't offer phone support, but it's pretty popular. It's really a bad product don't waste your time to setup it. this enterprise must be fogotten it's ag-projects . it's not a reliable society ... more and more Sounds to me like complaints from someone who couldn't figure out how to get the product setup to me. If you have valid complaints then by all means, post it to the list as a warning... But even then, there's no need to openly bash a product or company you don't like. This isn't the forum for such things. Alex -- Alex Robar [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From their README Disclaimer -- The information provided by CDRTool documentation is not always enough to successfully complete the installation and deployment of CDRTool. Most of the configuration tasks are related to setting up components outside CDRTool environment. Configuration of components like MySQL server, FreeRadius server, Cisco gateways, MediaProxy or SIP Express Router require a project management approach in place of a step by step installation procedure. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Don't use CDRTool From AG-projescts
Can you advise me a billing system which one use both cdr table (realtime) ? Harry --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Can You Call me please sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : You should have been working with asterisk about four years ago, lol! Talk about no docs. Most opensource projects provide read between the lines and Google the error to get a clue, your brains, trial and error docs. At least in my experience. Want some good docs? Maybe read the docs for MySQL server, FreeRadius server, Cisco gateways, MediaProxy or SIP Express Router and then retry CDRTool. Don't slam someone's project because you cannot figure it out and are not willing to pay $$$! Comes off as greedy to me. Guess I have not setup the Harry Potter to junk folder rule on this machine yet, thanks for reminding me. Thanks, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, I do hope ag-projects to keep their products with commercial licences ! Harry PS: most of billing (or not) open source projects provide a good documentation . --- Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Alex Robar wrote: Harry, Fisrt ag-projects talk about is product like a gpl software however they don't provide at least some documentation for non commercial users . Are they required to release docs? It's a nice bonus, but there's nothing forcing them to. If you want docs, you could always be helpful and write some yourself. try to call them !! i'll offer you some money . You can not Call them for some advices ... And why should you be able to? Again, it's nice to have phone support, but in no way is it required. ViciDial doesn't have phone support, but people use it. FreePBX doesn't offer phone support, but it's pretty popular. It's really a bad product don't waste your time to setup it. this enterprise must be fogotten it's ag-projects . it's not a reliable society ... more and more Sounds to me like complaints from someone who couldn't figure out how to get the product setup to me. If you have valid complaints then by all means, post it to the list as a warning... But even then, there's no need to openly bash a product or company you don't like. This isn't the forum for such things. Alex -- Alex Robar [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From their README Disclaimer -- The information provided by CDRTool documentation is not always enough to successfully complete the installation and deployment of CDRTool. Most of the configuration tasks are related to setting up components outside CDRTool environment. Configuration of components like MySQL server, FreeRadius server, Cisco gateways, MediaProxy or SIP Express Router require a project management approach in place of a step by step installation procedure. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. === message truncated === ___ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Don't use CDRTool From AG-projescts
hello to all, I advice you to not use CDRtool from ag-projects : Fisrt ag-projects talk about is product like a gpl software however they don't provide at least some documentation for non commercial users . try to call them !! i'll offer you some money . You can not Call them for some advices ... It's really a bad product don't waste your time to setup it. this enterprise must be fogotten it's ag-projects . it's not a reliable society ... more and more projects around open(ser) asterisk and more are offered good unliked projects cdrtool please do not use ag-projects products ! Harry is not Harry Potter ! Regards ___ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Don't use CDRTool From AG-projescts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello to all, I advice you to not use Harry!! Only one post is needed for each of your silly complaints. Please don't give people even more reason to relegate you to their killfiles. B. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: *** Spam *** [Asterisk-Users] Don't use CDRTool From AG-projescts
This post cannot be left without comment. People who don't know you or Adrian might get a wrong impression. I know Adrian quite well and know that he is one of the real experts in this industry and he and his stuff does not deserve such a treatment. I would recommend that you change your attitude. It seems like you did not get what you want (for free) and you complain like a small child. An apology would be appropriate. CS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 3:16 PM To: Asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *** Spam *** [Asterisk-Users] Don't use CDRTool From AG-projescts hello to all, I advice you to not use CDRtool from ag-projects : Fisrt ag-projects talk about is product like a gpl software however they don't provide at least some documentation for non commercial users . try to call them !! i'll offer you some money . You can not Call them for some advices ... It's really a bad product don't waste your time to setup it. this enterprise must be fogotten it's ag-projects . it's not a reliable society ... more and more projects around open(ser) asterisk and more are offered good unliked projects cdrtool please do not use ag-projects products ! Harry is not Harry Potter ! Regards __ _ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Don't use CDRTool From AG-projescts
On 22 Jun 2006, at 22:11, Christian Stredicke wrote: This post cannot be left without comment. People who don't know you or Adrian might get a wrong impression. Honestly, I think it can. That post tells you everything you need to know about the camplaining party ;) jens ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: *** Spam *** [Asterisk-Users] Don't use CDRTool From AG-projescts
Harry has been on my blacklist for some time now. Christian Stredicke wrote: This post cannot be left without comment. People who don't know you or Adrian might get a wrong impression. I know Adrian quite well and know that he is one of the real experts in this industry and he and his stuff does not deserve such a treatment. I would recommend that you change your attitude. It seems like you did not get what you want (for free) and you complain like a small child. An apology would be appropriate. CS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 3:16 PM To: Asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *** Spam *** [Asterisk-Users] Don't use CDRTool From AG-projescts hello to all, I advice you to not use CDRtool from ag-projects : Fisrt ag-projects talk about is product like a gpl software however they don't provide at least some documentation for non commercial users . try to call them !! i'll offer you some money . You can not Call them for some advices ... It's really a bad product don't waste your time to setup it. this enterprise must be fogotten it's ag-projects . it's not a reliable society ... more and more projects around open(ser) asterisk and more are offered good unliked projects cdrtool please do not use ag-projects products ! Harry is not Harry Potter ! Regards ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Don't use CDRTool From AG-projescts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : hello to all, I advice you to not use CDRtool from ag-projects : Fisrt ag-projects talk about is product like a gpl software however they don't provide at least some documentation for non commercial users . And they don't have to. I have not dealt with them before, nor do I have any connections with them, yet I find your libellous accusations completely unacceptable. Regards, Jean-Michel. -- Jean-Michel Hiver - http://ykoz.net/ Découvrez la Réunion des Technologies IP Telecom TEL: +262 (0)262 55 03 98 - RCS 434 273 330 SAINT PIERRE ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Don't use CDRTool From AG-projescts
Harry, Fisrt ag-projects talk about is product like a gplsoftware however they don't provide at least some documentation for non commercial users .Are they required to release docs? It's a nice bonus, but there's nothing forcing them to. If you want docs, you could always be helpful and write some yourself. try to call them !!i'll offer you some money .You can not Call them for some advices ... And why should you be able to? Again, it's nice to have phone support, but in no way is it required. ViciDial doesn't have phone support, but people use it. FreePBX doesn't offer phone support, but it's pretty popular. It's really a bad product don't waste your time tosetup it.this enterprise must befogotten it's ag-projects . it's not a reliable society ... more and moreSounds to me like complaints from someone who couldn't figure out how to get the product setup to me.If you have valid complaints then by all means, post it to the list as a warning... But even then, there's no need to openly bash a product or company you don't like. This isn't the forum for such things. Alex-- Alex Robar[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Don't use CDRTool From AG-projescts
Alex Robar wrote: Harry, Fisrt ag-projects talk about is product like a gpl software however they don't provide at least some documentation for non commercial users . Are they required to release docs? It's a nice bonus, but there's nothing forcing them to. If you want docs, you could always be helpful and write some yourself. try to call them !! i'll offer you some money . You can not Call them for some advices ... And why should you be able to? Again, it's nice to have phone support, but in no way is it required. ViciDial doesn't have phone support, but people use it. FreePBX doesn't offer phone support, but it's pretty popular. It's really a bad product don't waste your time to setup it. this enterprise must be fogotten it's ag-projects . it's not a reliable society ... more and more Sounds to me like complaints from someone who couldn't figure out how to get the product setup to me. If you have valid complaints then by all means, post it to the list as a warning... But even then, there's no need to openly bash a product or company you don't like. This isn't the forum for such things. Alex -- Alex Robar [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From their README Disclaimer -- The information provided by CDRTool documentation is not always enough to successfully complete the installation and deployment of CDRTool. Most of the configuration tasks are related to setting up components outside CDRTool environment. Configuration of components like MySQL server, FreeRadius server, Cisco gateways, MediaProxy or SIP Express Router require a project management approach in place of a step by step installation procedure. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
