[Asterisk-Users] Embedded Asterisk System (was QoS Router/Software Suggestions)

2004-10-13 Thread Geoff Nordli
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 On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, Geoff Nordli wrote:
 
 Is this where we get to vote for our favorite router software?  I
 choose Bering-uClibc 
 
 (http://leaf.sourceforge.net/mod.php?mod=userpagemenu=910pag
 e_id=36).  It
 comes with a ton of packages, and you can easily configure it to
 boot from HDD, or Compact Flash.  Of course it also comes with
 QOS/Traffic Shaping support.  Plus all the VPN options (IPSEC, PPTP,
 OpenVPN). 
 
 I have been thinking before about adding an * package to it so you
 could deploy it remotely and not worry about SIP problems.  I have
 heard there are problems building Asterisk with uClibc.
 
 Well, yeah. ;)
 
 But.. on another note, I just had what could amount to a
 brain-fart, or a
 good idea depending on how you look at it. There are some big
 issues with
 getting Asterisk to compile using uClibc rather than Libc,
 but if we could
 take the initial step of actually getting CVS Head to build cleanly
 against uClibc, these patches could be integrated back into
 the source
 tree making Asterisk more portable to embedded platforms.
 Sure, running
 uClibc on a Soekris or Via which have MMU's is not the same as a MIPS
 w/out an MMU, but it would be an important first step.

BTW they also provide Glibc-2.0.7, Glibc-2.2.5 libraries that can be used
for compatibility.

It would be a great idea to have Asterisk boot from Compact Flash.  You
could easily fit everything on 32MB flash card, and then you could add
capacity for voicemail. 

Any idea on how much space one would need for voicemail with wav support?  A
512 MB CF card is 85$ US at Sandisk.com.  You can buy an IDE to CF adapter
for around 15$US.  

When Bering boots it loads everything into a RAM based filesystem.  Anyone
see any drawbacks in running an * system using a RAM based file system and
booting from CF?  If you needed additional capacity for VM you could add an
IDE drive.  The benefits to not using an IDE drive would mean one less
mechanical device prone to failure.

Geoff


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Embedded Asterisk System (was QoS Router/Software Suggestions)

2004-10-13 Thread Scott Lykens
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:36:09 -0700, Geoff Nordli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When Bering boots it loads everything into a RAM based filesystem.  Anyone
 see any drawbacks in running an * system using a RAM based file system and
 booting from CF?  If you needed additional capacity for VM you could add an
 IDE drive.  The benefits to not using an IDE drive would mean one less
 mechanical device prone to failure.

You'll want some way to keep CDR records if you need them. I wouldn't
replace the IDE drive for VM with a CF as you might run into a CF
failure to due excessive writes per sector. It seems CFs are good for
something on the order of 10k writes per sector, a number that might
be deceptively easy to achieve.

Now, booting from CF and writing CDR back once (or a few times) per
day might be a worthwhile solution while using a remote * or disk for
VM. Of course an IBM 1 GB Microdrive is on the order of $175 or so and
would provide the ability to run the OS, * and VM all from disk
without worry or kludge.

sl
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Embedded Asterisk System (was QoS Router/Software Suggestions)

2004-10-13 Thread JB Hewit
Then you could export CDR to an external database on another machine.

Realisitcally though, for the price of a microdrive you 'mose well buy
a cheap ide hdd.

It's a cost way up, you can't have too much of an underpowered machine
otherwise you won't make many phone calls.


On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 16:46:17 -0400, Scott Lykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:36:09 -0700, Geoff Nordli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  When Bering boots it loads everything into a RAM based filesystem.  Anyone
  see any drawbacks in running an * system using a RAM based file system and
  booting from CF?  If you needed additional capacity for VM you could add an
  IDE drive.  The benefits to not using an IDE drive would mean one less
  mechanical device prone to failure.
 
 You'll want some way to keep CDR records if you need them. I wouldn't
 replace the IDE drive for VM with a CF as you might run into a CF
 failure to due excessive writes per sector. It seems CFs are good for
 something on the order of 10k writes per sector, a number that might
 be deceptively easy to achieve.
 
 Now, booting from CF and writing CDR back once (or a few times) per
 day might be a worthwhile solution while using a remote * or disk for
 VM. Of course an IBM 1 GB Microdrive is on the order of $175 or so and
 would provide the ability to run the OS, * and VM all from disk
 without worry or kludge.
 
 sl
 
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Embedded Asterisk System (was QoS Router/Software Suggestions)

2004-10-13 Thread Steve Edwards
What about syslogging the CDR's?
You can set the loghost via DHCP on boot.
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004, JB Hewit wrote:
Then you could export CDR to an external database on another machine.
Realisitcally though, for the price of a microdrive you 'mose well buy
a cheap ide hdd.
It's a cost way up, you can't have too much of an underpowered machine
otherwise you won't make many phone calls.
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 16:46:17 -0400, Scott Lykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:36:09 -0700, Geoff Nordli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When Bering boots it loads everything into a RAM based filesystem.  Anyone
see any drawbacks in running an * system using a RAM based file system and
booting from CF?  If you needed additional capacity for VM you could add an
IDE drive.  The benefits to not using an IDE drive would mean one less
mechanical device prone to failure.
You'll want some way to keep CDR records if you need them. I wouldn't
replace the IDE drive for VM with a CF as you might run into a CF
failure to due excessive writes per sector. It seems CFs are good for
something on the order of 10k writes per sector, a number that might
be deceptively easy to achieve.
Now, booting from CF and writing CDR back once (or a few times) per
day might be a worthwhile solution while using a remote * or disk for
VM. Of course an IBM 1 GB Microdrive is on the order of $175 or so and
would provide the ability to run the OS, * and VM all from disk
without worry or kludge.
sl
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