Re: [Asterisk-Users] FIX YOUR AUTO-RESPONDERS!!!
They can always check the archives to read up on missed posts, and it would save us all the trouble in the mean time ;-) Isn't it obvious that with a choice of hundreds of free email providers, anyone who wants to avois this problem need only use a throwaway account like gmail with mailing lists and avoid checking the away message stuff. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FIX YOUR AUTO-RESPONDERS!!!
On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 01:54:58PM +0100, Stefan Gofferje wrote: 2.) The BOFH-way of handling such things is more fun *evilgrin*. Another BOFH method is to archive all of those messages in a public place. I know of someone who did that (in the linux-s390 list, IIRC, I can't recall his name and can't find a link to that page) -- Tzafrir Cohen | New signature for new address and | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il | new homepage | a Mutt's [EMAIL PROTECTED] || best ICQ# 16849755 | Space reserved for other protocols | friend ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] FIX YOUR AUTO-RESPONDERS!!!
I think most people have spent more time complaining about the AUTO-RESPONDERS than it takes to hit the delete key. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilson Pickett Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 4:35 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] FIX YOUR AUTO-RESPONDERS!!! They can always check the archives to read up on missed posts, and it would save us all the trouble in the mean time ;-) Isn't it obvious that with a choice of hundreds of free email providers, anyone who wants to avois this problem need only use a throwaway account like gmail with mailing lists and avoid checking the away message stuff. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] FIX YOUR AUTO-RESPONDERS!!!
That's brilliant. So you want everyone to fix the symptom instead of the problem. I guess that makes sense to some people. Jeremiah C. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Burns Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 9:34 AM To: 'Wilson Pickett'; 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] FIX YOUR AUTO-RESPONDERS!!! I think most people have spent more time complaining about the AUTO-RESPONDERS than it takes to hit the delete key. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] FIX YOUR AUTO-RESPONDERS!!!
Yah .. or getting message refused because of password protected attachment .. aka. GPG signature.. On Sun, 2005-02-06 at 07:57, Jeremiah Chapman wrote: That's brilliant. So you want everyone to fix the symptom instead of the problem. I guess that makes sense to some people. Jeremiah C. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Burns Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 9:34 AM To: 'Wilson Pickett'; 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] FIX YOUR AUTO-RESPONDERS!!! I think most people have spent more time complaining about the AUTO-RESPONDERS than it takes to hit the delete key. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- S***I***G***N***A***T***U***R***E*** ,(), ,(,. huh-huh ,---,,,_ ()))//((\ Check it out, ( )) (\\( \))( \(/)Beavis...we're, () /( \\ like, in ASS-kee. () // _ \huh-huh-huh (_(_ ) // \ /\ / (, \) \ (. .\ / | / ) ) (, |,) Yeah. heh-heh |\ /( ) \ ^\/^ / That's COOL! Hey, (.(.)S ) \ / Butt-Head...you're/_ \ ) \ (--) / an ASS-kee. \ /__) ^ \/ \ -- / heh-heh //| \ __ / )__| | | //\/\\/\//\/\//\/\\\/\\ | __-|__|-__ \ / __-\__|-__ ( ) BEAVIS AND BUTT-HEAD ( ) |_|AC//DC|_| / \|_| MTVu |_| | | | | \/\//\/\\/\\/\//\//\/\ TM | | | | signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FIX YOUR AUTO-RESPONDERS!!!
Why don't you setup a filter rule like... That's not the point. He isn't the only one getting them, so why should EVERYONE add filters to cover all possible auto reply messages? Just have the SENDER fix their end once for everyone. The problem is that this is frequently an implementation error in the mail server software, and a mere employee of a company doesn't get to force a company to change their software just to fix one little problem. This programming problem largely steps from incompetence at vendors of commercial mail server software (I believe that Exchange and Notes are generally recognized as the most heinous offenders) because they don't have a clue about what they're doing. Error messages ought to be sent back to the envelope sender of a message, which mailing list software would set as being the list management address. If I send a message to the Asterisk list, and the Asterisk list then sends a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I have *not* sent a message to JQL, and should not receive a vacation notification. This was designed into the protocol to avoid just this sort of thing. Mail server software that doesn't understand the difference between the body sender and the envelope sender is just incompetently programmed. It isn't just the mailing list case which breaks. Verbatim message forwarding, where a recipient of my mail forwards it on to a third party, also breaks. We also have a less formal standard for denoting various sorts of bulk mail, which is the Precedence: header. One should *never* reply with an automated message to a message containing a Precedence: list, junk, or bulk header, unless you *really* *really* know what you're doing... and probably not even then. The problem is that while some of us out here know how to write robust mail systems, the people coding things like Exchange and Notes ... don't. I will not include my normal rant about programmers who reach the point of it ran once successfully, it must be correct, let's release the product. Sadly, there are more idiotic senders than there are clueful recipients. It is a lost battle, at least many of us old-timers think so. It doesn't stop me from occasionally getting into a bout with a particularly nasty mail server. procmail rules. :-) Regards, ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I won't contact you again. - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN) With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FIX YOUR AUTO-RESPONDERS!!!
Wouldn't it be much simpler and effective to just boot them off the list? I think they would get the picture pretty quick when they got back... They can always check the archives to read up on missed posts, and it would save us all the trouble in the mean time ;-) I support this. Get them off ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] FIX YOUR AUTO-RESPONDERS!!!
PLEASE CONFIGURE YOUR AUTORESPONSERS TO NOT SEND MESSAGES TO PEOPLE WHO POSTIN MAILING LISTS YOU SUBSCRIBE TO. This is an extremely rude thing to allow, and is becoming increasingly common, especially with users of the Asterisk-Users list. Daryl From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 6:41 PMTo: Daryl G. JurbalaSubject: AUTOREPLY RE: [Asterisk-Users] Zap channel occasionally misses di... Vielen Dank für Ihre Email! Ich bin vom 02.02.05 bis einschließlich 13.02.05 ausser Haus. Ihre Email wird bis dahin nicht bearbeitet oder weitergeleitet. Bei dringenden Fragen wenden Sie sich bitte an meinen Kollegen Herrn Rüdiger Hoog Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telefon: 02331/473101-11Telefax: 02331/473101-19 Für weitere Fragen stehe ich Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung und verbleibe mit freundlichem Gruß, Stefan SpeckenheuerTechnische Leitung POS Service, Logistik Handels GmbHAuf dem Graskamp 2D-58099 Hagen Tel. +49 2331 473101-21FAX +49 2331 473101-39 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.posservice.de Sitz der Gesellschaft: Walter-Rathenau-Ring 9-11, 59581 Warstein BeleckeHandelsregister Arnsberg: HRB 2958Ust.IdNr.: DE 198 933 818Geschäftsführer: Martin Menzel, Christian Woelke Diese E-Mail einschließlich aller Anhänge ist vertraulich.Wir bitten, eine fehlgeleitete Mail unverzüglich vollständigzu löschen und uns eine Nachricht zukommen zu lassen.Wir haben die Mail beim Ausgang auf Viren geprüft;wir raten jedoch, auf Grund der Gefahr auf denÜbertragungswegen, zu einer Eingangskontrolle.Eine Haftung für Virenfreiheit schließen wir aus. This e-mail and any attachments are confidential.If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail,please immediately delete its contents and notify us.This e-mail was checked for virus contamination beforebeing sent; nevertheless, it is advisable to checkfor any contamination occuring during transmission.We cannot accept any liability for virus contamination. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Asterisk > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 11:26 AM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Zap channel occasionally misses > dialing thefirst digit > > have a look at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+zap+channels > > Here it tells you that you can specify a wait period. [...] Don't know if it will apply to those having issues with BRI/PRI, but in my case, a ww in front of the dial string has worked witout fail for the last few days. Thanks to all who helped, Daryl ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FIX YOUR AUTO-RESPONDERS!!!
Why don't you setup a filter rule like... That's not the point. He isn't the only one getting them, so why should EVERYONE add filters to cover all possible auto reply messages? Just have the SENDER fix their end once for everyone. --Luki ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FIX YOUR AUTO-RESPONDERS!!!
On Fri, 2005-02-04 at 20:34 -0800, Luki wrote: Why don't you setup a filter rule like... That's not the point. He isn't the only one getting them, so why should EVERYONE add filters to cover all possible auto reply messages? Just have the SENDER fix their end once for everyone. Because there are more moronic idiots than there are worthy people. I submit the number of windows users here who are contributing to my spam and virus folders as examples of moronic users. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] FIX YOUR AUTO-RESPONDERS!!!
Lol - I already did do that 2 days ago and the 'associate' nominated as his replacement in the email. Nothing has been done. I figure seeing he is away until the 13th that we will be getting these messages for the next week and a half. Dean -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luki Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 11:34 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] FIX YOUR AUTO-RESPONDERS!!! Why don't you setup a filter rule like... That's not the point. He isn't the only one getting them, so why should EVERYONE add filters to cover all possible auto reply messages? Just have the SENDER fix their end once for everyone. --Luki ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FIX YOUR AUTO-RESPONDERS!!!
On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 00:07:59 -0500, dean collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lol - I already did do that 2 days ago and the 'associate' nominated as his replacement in the email. Nothing has been done. I figure seeing he is away until the 13th that we will be getting these messages for the next week and a half. This was one of the things the mailing list moderators could take care of, which I suggested in my post, RFC: Moderating the Asterisk Mailing lists. You can find posts regarding it here: http://www.mail-archive.com/asterisk-dev@lists.digium.com/msg08015.html http://www.mail-archive.com/asterisk-dev@lists.digium.com/msg08074.html Thanks, Leif Madsen. http://www.leifmadsen.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FIX YOUR AUTO-RESPONDERS!!!
Wouldn't it be much simpler and effective to just boot them off the list? I think they would get the picture pretty quick when they got back... They can always check the archives to read up on missed posts, and it would save us all the trouble in the mean time ;-) - Ben ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
