RE: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium

2004-01-22 Thread Senad Jordanovic
zoa wrote:
 sure,
 
 Its not impossible to have g729 and scsi only systems, although
 several 
 people with scsi systems have had issues with the g729 installation,
 i did not. 
 
 That doesnt mean that g729 is rock stable, every now and then the
 license 
 disappears or stops working for some hours/restarts.
 
 If you have a choice, i'd go for ilbc, sound quality is better,
 packetloss 
 features are great
 
 
 At 22:28 21/01/2004 +, you wrote:
 zoa wrote:
 This is absolutely not true.
 
 I have 3 (raid) scsi asterisk machines in production.
 
 Joachim.
 
 At 11:32 21/01/2004 -0500, you wrote:
 In my view at least one IDE drive must be installed in order for *
 g729 license to work. 
 
 To simplyfy, here is the matrix (This is how I think it is please
 confirm) 
 
 IDE Disk Install - g729 coder work.
 IDE/SCCI interfaces. Only a SCSI disk installed - g729 will not
 work. IDE/SCSI Interfaces. At lease one IDE disk installed - g729
 will work. 
 
 SATA Serial ATA Disk I have no clue how it works. Is SATA
 considered a IDE disk or a SCSI disk ?
 
 This is an issue that VoiceAge need to address soon.
 
 - SamW
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Amaury Jacquot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 4:32 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium
 
 Terence Parker wrote:
 OK - but what counts as a SCSI system?
 
 These days there are lots of pseudo-SCSI systems around - such as
 our
 server
 which runs a serial-ATA RAID but the driver is loaded as a SCSI
 device. 
 
 Is that still IDE? Or SCSI?
 
 technically, it uses the SCSI command set over a serial link, so,
 it's SCSI 
 
 Terence
 
 
 
 I know one thing for sure...
 G729 WILL NOT WORK after installation *(it never realy installs
 but does the segmentation faults), * will not start, and you will
 need to prevent g729 module from Starting in order for * to
 start. So do not buy if your box is SCSI in any part. Ta
 SJ
 
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 Can you please clarify which part are you referring as not being
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Ok, fair enough.

My servers do not have IDE at all (not even CDROM), hence why
My g729 installations failed.

Ta
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium

2004-01-22 Thread Walt Reed
Just thought I'd mention that it's REALLY confusing when there is a
combination of top and bottom posting, and nobody bothers to trim the
posts including multiple copies of the list info footers.


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium

2004-01-21 Thread Senad Jordanovic
David Gomillion wrote:
 According to digium's site, Note: Please do not attempt to use the
 G.729 code in a SCSI-only system. We are currently working with
 VoiceAge to correct this issue. (found at
 http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=asterisk_g729).   
 
 Does anyone know what these issues are?  Can anyone define SCSI-only
 system? I know this sounds kinda dumb, but I have a server with SCSI
 and IDE interfaces, but no IDE drives.  Is that SCSI only?  
 
 Thanks for your help,
 David Gomillion
 
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I know one thing for sure...
G729 WILL NOT WORK after installation *(it never realy installs but does
the segmentation faults), * will not start, and you will need to prevent
g729 module from
Starting in order for * to start. 
So do not buy if your box is SCSI in any part.
Ta
SJ

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium

2004-01-21 Thread Terence Parker
OK - but what counts as a SCSI system?

These days there are lots of pseudo-SCSI systems around - such as our server
which runs a serial-ATA RAID but the driver is loaded as a SCSI device.

Is that still IDE? Or SCSI?

Terence


 I know one thing for sure...
 G729 WILL NOT WORK after installation *(it never realy installs but does
 the segmentation faults), * will not start, and you will need to prevent
 g729 module from
 Starting in order for * to start. 
 So do not buy if your box is SCSI in any part.
 Ta
 SJ
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium

2004-01-21 Thread Amaury Jacquot
Terence Parker wrote:
OK - but what counts as a SCSI system?

These days there are lots of pseudo-SCSI systems around - such as our server
which runs a serial-ATA RAID but the driver is loaded as a SCSI device.
Is that still IDE? Or SCSI?
technically, it uses the SCSI command set over a serial link, so, it's SCSI

Terence



I know one thing for sure...
G729 WILL NOT WORK after installation *(it never realy installs but does
the segmentation faults), * will not start, and you will need to prevent
g729 module from
Starting in order for * to start. 
So do not buy if your box is SCSI in any part.
Ta
SJ
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium

2004-01-21 Thread SamW
In my view at least one IDE drive must be installed in order for * g729
license to work. 

To simplyfy, here is the matrix (This is how I think it is please
confirm)

IDE Disk Install - g729 coder work.
IDE/SCCI interfaces. Only a SCSI disk installed - g729 will not work.
IDE/SCSI Interfaces. At lease one IDE disk installed - g729 will work. 

SATA Serial ATA Disk I have no clue how it works. Is SATA considered a
IDE disk or a SCSI disk ?

This is an issue that VoiceAge need to address soon. 

- SamW

-Original Message-
From: Amaury Jacquot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 4:32 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium

Terence Parker wrote:
 OK - but what counts as a SCSI system?
 
 These days there are lots of pseudo-SCSI systems around - such as our
server
 which runs a serial-ATA RAID but the driver is loaded as a SCSI
device.
 
 Is that still IDE? Or SCSI?

technically, it uses the SCSI command set over a serial link, so, it's
SCSI

 Terence
 
 
 
I know one thing for sure...
G729 WILL NOT WORK after installation *(it never realy installs but
does
the segmentation faults), * will not start, and you will need to
prevent
g729 module from
Starting in order for * to start. 
So do not buy if your box is SCSI in any part.
Ta
SJ
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium

2004-01-21 Thread David Gomillion
What about an IDE CDROM?  Does anyone know?  Or does the license have to be
installed on an IDE device?  I'm a bit concerned, because I prefer not to
use IDE for a production server, but g729 would be (in my opinion) a good
thing.

- Original Message - 
From: SamW [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:32 AM
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium


 In my view at least one IDE drive must be installed in order for * g729
 license to work.

 To simplyfy, here is the matrix (This is how I think it is please
 confirm)

 IDE Disk Install - g729 coder work.
 IDE/SCCI interfaces. Only a SCSI disk installed - g729 will not work.
 IDE/SCSI Interfaces. At lease one IDE disk installed - g729 will work.

 SATA Serial ATA Disk I have no clue how it works. Is SATA considered a
 IDE disk or a SCSI disk ?

 This is an issue that VoiceAge need to address soon.

 - SamW

 -Original Message-
 From: Amaury Jacquot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 4:32 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium

 Terence Parker wrote:
  OK - but what counts as a SCSI system?
 
  These days there are lots of pseudo-SCSI systems around - such as our
 server
  which runs a serial-ATA RAID but the driver is loaded as a SCSI
 device.
 
  Is that still IDE? Or SCSI?

 technically, it uses the SCSI command set over a serial link, so, it's
 SCSI

  Terence
 
 
 
 I know one thing for sure...
 G729 WILL NOT WORK after installation *(it never realy installs but
 does
 the segmentation faults), * will not start, and you will need to
 prevent
 g729 module from
 Starting in order for * to start.
 So do not buy if your box is SCSI in any part.
 Ta
 SJ
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium

2004-01-21 Thread zoa
This is absolutely not true.

I have 3 (raid) scsi asterisk machines in production.

Joachim.

At 11:32 21/01/2004 -0500, you wrote:
In my view at least one IDE drive must be installed in order for * g729
license to work.
To simplyfy, here is the matrix (This is how I think it is please
confirm)
IDE Disk Install - g729 coder work.
IDE/SCCI interfaces. Only a SCSI disk installed - g729 will not work.
IDE/SCSI Interfaces. At lease one IDE disk installed - g729 will work.
SATA Serial ATA Disk I have no clue how it works. Is SATA considered a
IDE disk or a SCSI disk ?
This is an issue that VoiceAge need to address soon.

- SamW

-Original Message-
From: Amaury Jacquot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 4:32 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium
Terence Parker wrote:
 OK - but what counts as a SCSI system?

 These days there are lots of pseudo-SCSI systems around - such as our
server
 which runs a serial-ATA RAID but the driver is loaded as a SCSI
device.

 Is that still IDE? Or SCSI?
technically, it uses the SCSI command set over a serial link, so, it's
SCSI
 Terence



I know one thing for sure...
G729 WILL NOT WORK after installation *(it never realy installs but
does
the segmentation faults), * will not start, and you will need to
prevent
g729 module from
Starting in order for * to start.
So do not buy if your box is SCSI in any part.
Ta
SJ

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium

2004-01-21 Thread SamW
I think what the license registration program does is read a unique
DISK-ID number to install the license. I think they cannot read that
number from anything else other than IDE HDD. 

- SamW


-Original Message-
From: David Gomillion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 12:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium

What about an IDE CDROM?  Does anyone know?  Or does the license have to
be
installed on an IDE device?  I'm a bit concerned, because I prefer not
to
use IDE for a production server, but g729 would be (in my opinion) a
good
thing.

- Original Message - 
From: SamW [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:32 AM
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium


 In my view at least one IDE drive must be installed in order for *
g729
 license to work.

 To simplyfy, here is the matrix (This is how I think it is please
 confirm)

 IDE Disk Install - g729 coder work.
 IDE/SCCI interfaces. Only a SCSI disk installed - g729 will not work.
 IDE/SCSI Interfaces. At lease one IDE disk installed - g729 will work.

 SATA Serial ATA Disk I have no clue how it works. Is SATA considered a
 IDE disk or a SCSI disk ?

 This is an issue that VoiceAge need to address soon.

 - SamW

 -Original Message-
 From: Amaury Jacquot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 4:32 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium

 Terence Parker wrote:
  OK - but what counts as a SCSI system?
 
  These days there are lots of pseudo-SCSI systems around - such as
our
 server
  which runs a serial-ATA RAID but the driver is loaded as a SCSI
 device.
 
  Is that still IDE? Or SCSI?

 technically, it uses the SCSI command set over a serial link, so, it's
 SCSI

  Terence
 
 
 
 I know one thing for sure...
 G729 WILL NOT WORK after installation *(it never realy installs but
 does
 the segmentation faults), * will not start, and you will need to
 prevent
 g729 module from
 Starting in order for * to start.
 So do not buy if your box is SCSI in any part.
 Ta
 SJ
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium

2004-01-21 Thread Tilghman Lesher
On Wednesday 21 January 2004 11:52, David Gomillion wrote:
 What about an IDE CDROM?  Does anyone know?  Or does the license
 have to be installed on an IDE device?  I'm a bit concerned,
 because I prefer not to use IDE for a production server, but g729
 would be (in my opinion) a good thing.

Given the closed source nature of the code in question, it is
impossible for anyone who does not have the source to be definitive
in their answer.  That leaves VoiceAge (and possibly Digium) as the
only company who can provide you with that answer.

-Tilghman

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium

2004-01-21 Thread Senad Jordanovic
zoa wrote:
 This is absolutely not true.
 
 I have 3 (raid) scsi asterisk machines in production.
 
 Joachim.
 
 At 11:32 21/01/2004 -0500, you wrote:
 In my view at least one IDE drive must be installed in order for *
 g729 license to work. 
 
 To simplyfy, here is the matrix (This is how I think it is please
 confirm) 
 
 IDE Disk Install - g729 coder work.
 IDE/SCCI interfaces. Only a SCSI disk installed - g729 will not work.
 IDE/SCSI Interfaces. At lease one IDE disk installed - g729 will
 work. 
 
 SATA Serial ATA Disk I have no clue how it works. Is SATA considered
 a IDE disk or a SCSI disk ? 
 
 This is an issue that VoiceAge need to address soon.
 
 - SamW
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Amaury Jacquot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 4:32 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium
 
 Terence Parker wrote:
 OK - but what counts as a SCSI system?
 
 These days there are lots of pseudo-SCSI systems around - such as
 our
 server
 which runs a serial-ATA RAID but the driver is loaded as a SCSI
 device. 
 
 Is that still IDE? Or SCSI?
 
 technically, it uses the SCSI command set over a serial link, so,
 it's SCSI 
 
 Terence
 
 
 
 I know one thing for sure...
 G729 WILL NOT WORK after installation *(it never realy installs
 but does the segmentation faults), * will not start, and you will
 need to prevent g729 module from Starting in order for * to start.
 So do not buy if your box is SCSI in any part.
 Ta
 SJ
 
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Can you please clarify which part are you referring as not being true?


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium

2004-01-21 Thread Luciano Ramos
Serial ATA's are threated as SCSI in linux

Luciano

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Enviado el: Miercoles, 21 de Enero de 2004 05:33 p.m.
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Asunto: RE: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium


In my view at least one IDE drive must be installed in order for * g729
license to work. 

To simplyfy, here is the matrix (This is how I think it is please
confirm)

IDE Disk Install - g729 coder work.
IDE/SCCI interfaces. Only a SCSI disk installed - g729 will not work.
IDE/SCSI Interfaces. At lease one IDE disk installed - g729 will work. 

SATA Serial ATA Disk I have no clue how it works. Is SATA considered a
IDE disk or a SCSI disk ?

This is an issue that VoiceAge need to address soon. 

- SamW

-Original Message-
From: Amaury Jacquot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 4:32 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium

Terence Parker wrote:
 OK - but what counts as a SCSI system?
 
 These days there are lots of pseudo-SCSI systems around - such as our
server
 which runs a serial-ATA RAID but the driver is loaded as a SCSI
device.
 
 Is that still IDE? Or SCSI?

technically, it uses the SCSI command set over a serial link, so, it's
SCSI

 Terence
 
 
 
I know one thing for sure...
G729 WILL NOT WORK after installation *(it never realy installs but
does
the segmentation faults), * will not start, and you will need to
prevent
g729 module from
Starting in order for * to start. 
So do not buy if your box is SCSI in any part.
Ta
SJ
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium

2004-01-21 Thread Brancaleoni Matteo
Hi
 This is absolutely not true.
 
 I have 3 (raid) scsi asterisk machines in production.

I can confirm that.
Also I did ONLY FOR KNOWLEDGE PURPOSE some quick disassembly
on the binary, and it searches for ide or scsi.

 
 At 11:32 21/01/2004 -0500, you wrote:
 In my view at least one IDE drive must be installed in order for * g729
 license to work.
 
 To simplyfy, here is the matrix (This is how I think it is please
 confirm)
 
 IDE Disk Install - g729 coder work.
 IDE/SCCI interfaces. Only a SCSI disk installed - g729 will not work.
 IDE/SCSI Interfaces. At lease one IDE disk installed - g729 will work.
 

Matteo.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium

2004-01-21 Thread zoa
sure,

Its not impossible to have g729 and scsi only systems, although several 
people with scsi systems have had issues with the g729 installation, i did not.

That doesnt mean that g729 is rock stable, every now and then the license 
disappears or stops working for some hours/restarts.

If you have a choice, i'd go for ilbc, sound quality is better, packetloss 
features are great

At 22:28 21/01/2004 +, you wrote:
zoa wrote:
 This is absolutely not true.

 I have 3 (raid) scsi asterisk machines in production.

 Joachim.

 At 11:32 21/01/2004 -0500, you wrote:
 In my view at least one IDE drive must be installed in order for *
 g729 license to work.

 To simplyfy, here is the matrix (This is how I think it is please
 confirm)

 IDE Disk Install - g729 coder work.
 IDE/SCCI interfaces. Only a SCSI disk installed - g729 will not work.
 IDE/SCSI Interfaces. At lease one IDE disk installed - g729 will
 work.

 SATA Serial ATA Disk I have no clue how it works. Is SATA considered
 a IDE disk or a SCSI disk ?

 This is an issue that VoiceAge need to address soon.

 - SamW

 -Original Message-
 From: Amaury Jacquot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 4:32 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium

 Terence Parker wrote:
 OK - but what counts as a SCSI system?

 These days there are lots of pseudo-SCSI systems around - such as
 our
 server
 which runs a serial-ATA RAID but the driver is loaded as a SCSI
 device.

 Is that still IDE? Or SCSI?

 technically, it uses the SCSI command set over a serial link, so,
 it's SCSI

 Terence



 I know one thing for sure...
 G729 WILL NOT WORK after installation *(it never realy installs
 but does the segmentation faults), * will not start, and you will
 need to prevent g729 module from Starting in order for * to start.
 So do not buy if your box is SCSI in any part.
 Ta
 SJ

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium

2004-01-21 Thread Billy Huddleston
IDE/SCSI interfaces, SCSI only installed, WITH IDE CDROM installed with
CDROM in drive. - g729 WILL WORK.

I'm running a system right now with 24 licences.. Tested it with a single
license before purchasing the other 23.   You MUST have a CDROM in the drive
when you run the install program.. and MUST have it in the drive when you
bring Asterisk's up.

Thanks, Billy

- Original Message -
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 zoa wrote:
  This is absolutely not true.
 
  I have 3 (raid) scsi asterisk machines in production.
 
  Joachim.
 
  At 11:32 21/01/2004 -0500, you wrote:
  In my view at least one IDE drive must be installed in order for *
  g729 license to work.
 
  To simplyfy, here is the matrix (This is how I think it is please
  confirm)
 
  IDE Disk Install - g729 coder work.
  IDE/SCCI interfaces. Only a SCSI disk installed - g729 will not work.
  IDE/SCSI Interfaces. At lease one IDE disk installed - g729 will
  work.
 
  SATA Serial ATA Disk I have no clue how it works. Is SATA considered
  a IDE disk or a SCSI disk ?
 
  This is an issue that VoiceAge need to address soon.
 
  - SamW
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Amaury Jacquot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 4:32 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium
 
  Terence Parker wrote:
  OK - but what counts as a SCSI system?
 
  These days there are lots of pseudo-SCSI systems around - such as
  our
  server
  which runs a serial-ATA RAID but the driver is loaded as a SCSI
  device.
 
  Is that still IDE? Or SCSI?
 
  technically, it uses the SCSI command set over a serial link, so,
  it's SCSI
 
  Terence
 
 
 
  I know one thing for sure...
  G729 WILL NOT WORK after installation *(it never realy installs
  but does the segmentation faults), * will not start, and you will
  need to prevent g729 module from Starting in order for * to start.
  So do not buy if your box is SCSI in any part.
  Ta
  SJ
 
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[Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium

2004-01-20 Thread David Gomillion
According to digium's site, Note: Please do not attempt to use the G.729
code in a SCSI-only system. We are currently working with VoiceAge to
correct this issue. (found at
http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=asterisk_g729).

Does anyone know what these issues are?  Can anyone define SCSI-only system?
I know this sounds kinda dumb, but I have a server with SCSI and IDE
interfaces, but no IDE drives.  Is that SCSI only?

Thanks for your help,
David Gomillion

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium

2004-01-20 Thread Tilghman Lesher
On Tuesday 20 January 2004 12:42, David Gomillion wrote:
 According to digium's site, Note: Please do not attempt to use the
 G.729 code in a SCSI-only system. We are currently working with
 VoiceAge to correct this issue. (found at
 http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=asterisk_g729).

 Does anyone know what these issues are?  Can anyone define
 SCSI-only system? I know this sounds kinda dumb, but I have a
 server with SCSI and IDE interfaces, but no IDE drives.  Is that
 SCSI only?

The specific issue is that VoiceAge uses a copy protection method
that binds the license to the filesystem.  I believe, though I'm not
certain, that this has to do with comparing the inode number of the
drive on which the root filesystem is hosted with the inode number of
same when the license was installed.  In addition, the license is
communicated back to a central server, so there's no possibility of
installing the license twice, two different machines or no.

-Tilghman

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] G.729 Licenses from Digium

2004-01-20 Thread William Waites
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 03:09:54PM -0600, Tilghman Lesher wrote:
 
 The specific issue is that VoiceAge uses a copy protection method
 that binds the license to the filesystem. 

Solution: don't use proprietary software. Then you don't have to
worry about the stupid things that they do to keep their code secret.

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