Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM/DECT handsets (was gsm picocells)

2006-03-27 Thread Iain Barker
Peter Bowyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How many companies have deployed DECT in their buildings?

Thousands, perhaps tens of thousands. DECT technology is very big in Europe.

It's not so widespread in North America, primarily because the FCC allocated 
radio frequencies are different from those allocated for use in international 
markets, so the European hardware can't (legally) be used in USA/Canada.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] GSM/DECT handsets (was gsm picocells)

2006-03-27 Thread David Phelan
The iMate is availble here, as well as the O2 XDAII.
I have the O2 running here without too many issues..(appart from WiFi
Sucking My Battery's will to live)
With SJPhone seems to be mostly stable. 
The ECS-IAX PDA Client is WAY too unstable at the moment...conectivity/voice
quality issues...


Dave

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I think the main issue for James and myself is that we can't buy anything in
Australia.

Paul Hales
Technical Manager
AsteriskIT

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 Not GSM/DECT but GSM/Wifi phones are available - This is not a
 recommendation, I don't like what I've seen.
 try www.imate.com (to start with) .. they have at least three types of GSM
 phones that do Wifi .. They run windows so there are several sip softwares
 and one IAX software that work with these -

 Also Nokia has a GSM phone that does Wifi but that's a symbian (OS) phone
 (don't know of sip software that works with it).


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  If you find anything out, I would like to know.
 
  I have tried to find a gsm/wifi phone in the past (in melbourne) and
  failed.
 
  later,
 
  Paul Hales
  Technical Manager
  AsteriskIT
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: James Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
  Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 11:21 AM
  Subject: [Asterisk-Users] GSM/DECT handsets (was gsm picocells)
 
 
  Now that I actually try and google for it, I can't find any dual mode
  GSM/DECT handsets, only pages telling me that they exist without any
  actual information!!!
 
  Does anyone know of any such handsets? (and even better, ones that are
  available in Australia) I've searched a few of the major gsm
  manufacturers (nokia, Panasonic, sonyericsson) but their web sites are
  absolutely pathetic to the point being useless (or maybe I'm just in a
  bad mood today :)
 
  Thanks
 
  James
 
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   Sent: Friday, 24 March 2006 13:08
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   Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: gsm picocells
  
Steve,
   
Excellent explanation.
   
In a nutshell, it might be better to just use a phone that can
automatically switch between GSM and WiFi. Of course, that's
limited
   to
handful of handsets.
  
   I haven't done any sort of research, but I've been told that GSM+DECT
   phones are available, and while having them seamlessly switch network
   types during a call probably isn't possible, they can function as a
   cordless handset.
  
   Can anyone confirm or deny this?
  
   James
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM/DECT handsets (was gsm picocells)

2006-03-26 Thread Andrew Latham
samsung, and others, I have a list, email me to remind me to dig it
out and post to the list

On 3/24/06, James Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Now that I actually try and google for it, I can't find any dual mode
 GSM/DECT handsets, only pages telling me that they exist without any
 actual information!!!

 Does anyone know of any such handsets? (and even better, ones that are
 available in Australia) I've searched a few of the major gsm
 manufacturers (nokia, Panasonic, sonyericsson) but their web sites are
 absolutely pathetic to the point being useless (or maybe I'm just in a
 bad mood today :)

 Thanks

 James

  -Original Message-
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  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Harper
  Sent: Friday, 24 March 2006 13:08
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
  Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: gsm picocells
 
   Steve,
  
   Excellent explanation.
  
   In a nutshell, it might be better to just use a phone that can
   automatically switch between GSM and WiFi. Of course, that's limited
  to
   handful of handsets.
 
  I haven't done any sort of research, but I've been told that GSM+DECT
  phones are available, and while having them seamlessly switch network
  types during a call probably isn't possible, they can function as a
  cordless handset.
 
  Can anyone confirm or deny this?
 
  James
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM/DECT handsets (was gsm picocells)

2006-03-26 Thread pdhales
If you find anything out, I would like to know.

I have tried to find a gsm/wifi phone in the past (in melbourne) and failed.

later,

Paul Hales
Technical Manager
AsteriskIT

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From: James Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
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Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 11:21 AM
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] GSM/DECT handsets (was gsm picocells)


 Now that I actually try and google for it, I can't find any dual mode
 GSM/DECT handsets, only pages telling me that they exist without any
 actual information!!!

 Does anyone know of any such handsets? (and even better, ones that are
 available in Australia) I've searched a few of the major gsm
 manufacturers (nokia, Panasonic, sonyericsson) but their web sites are
 absolutely pathetic to the point being useless (or maybe I'm just in a
 bad mood today :)

 Thanks

 James

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Harper
  Sent: Friday, 24 March 2006 13:08
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
  Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: gsm picocells
 
   Steve,
  
   Excellent explanation.
  
   In a nutshell, it might be better to just use a phone that can
   automatically switch between GSM and WiFi. Of course, that's limited
  to
   handful of handsets.
 
  I haven't done any sort of research, but I've been told that GSM+DECT
  phones are available, and while having them seamlessly switch network
  types during a call probably isn't possible, they can function as a
  cordless handset.
 
  Can anyone confirm or deny this?
 
  James
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM/DECT handsets (was gsm picocells)

2006-03-26 Thread AR Tarzi
Not GSM/DECT but GSM/Wifi phones are available - This is not a 
recommendation, I don't like what I've seen.
try www.imate.com (to start with) .. they have at least three types of GSM 
phones that do Wifi .. They run windows so there are several sip softwares 
and one IAX software that work with these -


Also Nokia has a GSM phone that does Wifi but that's a symbian (OS) phone 
(don't know of sip software that works with it).



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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM/DECT handsets (was gsm picocells)



If you find anything out, I would like to know.

I have tried to find a gsm/wifi phone in the past (in melbourne) and 
failed.


later,

Paul Hales
Technical Manager
AsteriskIT

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To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
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Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 11:21 AM
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] GSM/DECT handsets (was gsm picocells)



Now that I actually try and google for it, I can't find any dual mode
GSM/DECT handsets, only pages telling me that they exist without any
actual information!!!

Does anyone know of any such handsets? (and even better, ones that are
available in Australia) I've searched a few of the major gsm
manufacturers (nokia, Panasonic, sonyericsson) but their web sites are
absolutely pathetic to the point being useless (or maybe I'm just in a
bad mood today :)

Thanks

James

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Harper
 Sent: Friday, 24 March 2006 13:08
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: gsm picocells

  Steve,
 
  Excellent explanation.
 
  In a nutshell, it might be better to just use a phone that can
  automatically switch between GSM and WiFi. Of course, that's limited
 to
  handful of handsets.

 I haven't done any sort of research, but I've been told that GSM+DECT
 phones are available, and while having them seamlessly switch network
 types during a call probably isn't possible, they can function as a
 cordless handset.

 Can anyone confirm or deny this?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM/DECT handsets (was gsm picocells)

2006-03-26 Thread pdhales
I think the main issue for James and myself is that we can't buy anything in
Australia.

Paul Hales
Technical Manager
AsteriskIT

- Original Message - 
From: AR Tarzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
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Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM/DECT handsets (was gsm picocells)


 Not GSM/DECT but GSM/Wifi phones are available - This is not a
 recommendation, I don't like what I've seen.
 try www.imate.com (to start with) .. they have at least three types of GSM
 phones that do Wifi .. They run windows so there are several sip softwares
 and one IAX software that work with these -

 Also Nokia has a GSM phone that does Wifi but that's a symbian (OS) phone
 (don't know of sip software that works with it).


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 asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 00:48
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM/DECT handsets (was gsm picocells)


  If you find anything out, I would like to know.
 
  I have tried to find a gsm/wifi phone in the past (in melbourne) and
  failed.
 
  later,
 
  Paul Hales
  Technical Manager
  AsteriskIT
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: James Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
  asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
  Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 11:21 AM
  Subject: [Asterisk-Users] GSM/DECT handsets (was gsm picocells)
 
 
  Now that I actually try and google for it, I can't find any dual mode
  GSM/DECT handsets, only pages telling me that they exist without any
  actual information!!!
 
  Does anyone know of any such handsets? (and even better, ones that are
  available in Australia) I've searched a few of the major gsm
  manufacturers (nokia, Panasonic, sonyericsson) but their web sites are
  absolutely pathetic to the point being useless (or maybe I'm just in a
  bad mood today :)
 
  Thanks
 
  James
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Harper
   Sent: Friday, 24 March 2006 13:08
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   Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: gsm picocells
  
Steve,
   
Excellent explanation.
   
In a nutshell, it might be better to just use a phone that can
automatically switch between GSM and WiFi. Of course, that's
limited
   to
handful of handsets.
  
   I haven't done any sort of research, but I've been told that GSM+DECT
   phones are available, and while having them seamlessly switch network
   types during a call probably isn't possible, they can function as a
   cordless handset.
  
   Can anyone confirm or deny this?
  
   James
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM/DECT handsets (was gsm picocells)

2006-03-26 Thread Leo Ann Boon

AR Tarzi wrote:

Not GSM/DECT but GSM/Wifi phones are available - This is not a 
recommendation, I don't like what I've seen.
try www.imate.com (to start with) .. they have at least three types of 
GSM phones that do Wifi .. They run windows so there are several sip 
softwares and one IAX software that work with these -


Also Nokia has a GSM phone that does Wifi but that's a symbian (OS) 
phone (don't know of sip software that works with it).


The nokia E60 supports 'internet calls over WLAN' and lists a SIP API as 
one of it's device features 
(http://www.forum.nokia.com/main/0,,018-2715,00.html?model=E60).


Actually, Nokia has had a SIP stack/SDK for the Series 60 for quite a 
long time. Just no actual UA to use it.


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] GSM/DECT handsets (was gsm picocells)

2006-03-26 Thread James Harper
 Not GSM/DECT but GSM/Wifi phones are available - This is not a
 recommendation, I don't like what I've seen.

It strikes me as really strange that GSM/Wifi would be available while
GSM/DECT is not so much. DECT is a voice technology, while wifi isn't.

Still... there's a lot about the world I don't understand :)

James

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM/DECT handsets (was gsm picocells)

2006-03-26 Thread pdhales
Understanding..is not required. ;)

PaulH

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  Not GSM/DECT but GSM/Wifi phones are available - This is not a
  recommendation, I don't like what I've seen.

 It strikes me as really strange that GSM/Wifi would be available while
 GSM/DECT is not so much. DECT is a voice technology, while wifi isn't.

 Still... there's a lot about the world I don't understand :)

 James

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM/DECT handsets (was gsm picocells)

2006-03-26 Thread Peter Bowyer
On 27/03/06, James Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Not GSM/DECT but GSM/Wifi phones are available - This is not a
  recommendation, I don't like what I've seen.

 It strikes me as really strange that GSM/Wifi would be available while
 GSM/DECT is not so much. DECT is a voice technology, while wifi isn't.

1) Because the phones do so much more than voice calls. Would you run
a web browser over DECT, or would it work better over wi-fi?

2) How many public DECT hotspots do you know about?

3) How many companies have deployed DECT in their buildings?

Peter
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[Asterisk-Users] GSM/DECT handsets (was gsm picocells)

2006-03-24 Thread James Harper
Now that I actually try and google for it, I can't find any dual mode
GSM/DECT handsets, only pages telling me that they exist without any
actual information!!!

Does anyone know of any such handsets? (and even better, ones that are
available in Australia) I've searched a few of the major gsm
manufacturers (nokia, Panasonic, sonyericsson) but their web sites are
absolutely pathetic to the point being useless (or maybe I'm just in a
bad mood today :)

Thanks

James

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Harper
 Sent: Friday, 24 March 2006 13:08
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: gsm picocells
 
  Steve,
 
  Excellent explanation.
 
  In a nutshell, it might be better to just use a phone that can
  automatically switch between GSM and WiFi. Of course, that's limited
 to
  handful of handsets.
 
 I haven't done any sort of research, but I've been told that GSM+DECT
 phones are available, and while having them seamlessly switch network
 types during a call probably isn't possible, they can function as a
 cordless handset.
 
 Can anyone confirm or deny this?
 
 James
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