Re: [Asterisk-Users] HW Echo Cancellers
Darren Wright wrote: Forget the orion.lots of DTMF problemstech support is not Terribly well spoken. Look for ANY of the 257* series... Just ebay for t1 echo -D Do *not* forget the Orion. We have 3 in place now working beautifully. Can't speak on Darren's problems, but our units have all installed in less than 5 minutes, totally eradicated echo, have had zero DTMF issues and Orion has been helpful when needed (though we have not needed much tech support). Mike Clark ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] HW Echo Cancellers
Doug Lytle wrote: Matt wrote: Tellabs looks a little too up-scale for what I need :). $1k for a single port orion unit might be worth considering for really stubborn installs though. http://cgi.ebay.com/Tellabs-2572-64ms-T1-echo-canceller_W0QQitemZ5863816619QQcategoryZ51279QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Just a note: This vendor is selling cards with local side echo cancellation. Most of the cards that I purchased didn't have it. The 3 that I've purchased from him did. Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] HW Echo Cancellers
Just a note: This vendor is selling cards with local side echo cancellation. Most of the cards that I purchased didn't have it. The 3 that I've purchased from him did. Two questions. One, why the need for local side echo cancellation? I thought you could just reverse the connection and it would now disable echo in the opposite direction? Just curious, I don't have a T1, and this is just based on what I've read. Two, is there any way to tell what cards have this option just by looking at them? I bought a large lot (40+) and intend to resell them, probably on ebay. I would like to know what extras they have or don't have, so I can list them appropriately. Thanks! Joseph Tanner Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] HW Echo Cancellers
You sure it's not the Zaptel hardware creating the DTMF issues? what Digium card you using? On 3/8/06, Darren Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forget the orion.lots of DTMF problemstech support is not Terribly well spoken. Look for ANY of the 257* series... Just ebay for t1 echo -D -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 2:30 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] HW Echo Cancellers Tellabs looks a little too up-scale for what I need :). $1k for a single port orion unit might be worth considering for really stubborn installs though. Why? they go for around $100.00 on eBay. What goes for $100 on eBay? Tellabs? or Orion? I can't find any Orion equipment on eBay. What model Tellabs am I looking for? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] HW Echo Cancellers
Joseph Tanner wrote: Just a note: Two questions. One, why the need for local side echo cancellation? I thought you could just reverse the connection and it would now disable echo in the opposite direction? Just curious, I don't have a T1, and this is just based on what I've read. I have E.C. turned off in Asterisk, I want the card to have the ability to cancel in both directions. Two, is there any way to tell what cards have this option just by looking at them? I bought a large lot (40+) and intend to resell them, probably on ebay. I would like to know what extras they have or don't have, so I can list them appropriately. If you've looked at the picture in the ebaY auction, you should notice the daughter board. Without the daughter board, the area is quite absent of chips. The 1 board that I have without the daughter board and the 3 with had send side E.C. You can verify by powering a unit up and scrolling though the options until you see 38. If there is no 38, then the board doesn't have send side E.C. Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] HW Echo Cancellers
Ditto on our installation of an Orion solution here in South Africa! works like a charm.CheersRobOn 09/03/06, Mike Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Darren Wright wrote:Forget the orion.lots of DTMF problemstech support is not Terribly well spoken.Look for ANY of the 257* series...Just ebay for t1 echo-DDo *not* forget the Orion. We have 3 in place now working beautifully. Can't speak on Darren's problems, but our units have all installed inless than 5 minutes, totally eradicated echo, have had zero DTMF issuesand Orion has been helpful when needed (though we have not needed much tech support).Mike Clark___--Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com --Asterisk-Users mailing listTo UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] HW Echo Cancellers
Tellabs looks a little too up-scale for what I need :). $1k for a single port orion unit might be worth considering for really stubborn installs though. Why? they go for around $100.00 on eBay. What goes for $100 on eBay? Tellabs? or Orion? I can't find any Orion equipment on eBay. What model Tellabs am I looking for? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] HW Echo Cancellers
Matt wrote: Tellabs looks a little too up-scale for what I need :). $1k for a single port orion unit might be worth considering for really stubborn installs though. Why? they go for around $100.00 on eBay. What goes for $100 on eBay? Tellabs? or Orion? I can't find any Orion equipment on eBay. What model Tellabs am I looking for? ___ http://cgi.ebay.com/Tellabs-2572-64ms-T1-echo-canceller_W0QQitemZ5863816619QQcategoryZ51279QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Doug ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] HW Echo Cancellers
Forget the orion.lots of DTMF problemstech support is not Terribly well spoken. Look for ANY of the 257* series... Just ebay for t1 echo -D -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 2:30 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] HW Echo Cancellers Tellabs looks a little too up-scale for what I need :). $1k for a single port orion unit might be worth considering for really stubborn installs though. Why? they go for around $100.00 on eBay. What goes for $100 on eBay? Tellabs? or Orion? I can't find any Orion equipment on eBay. What model Tellabs am I looking for? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] HW Echo Cancellers
Hi, In December, I posted an enquiry asking whether anyone had experience with the Sangoma A104d cards (see below) - I got a couple of responses, but basically it was that people have started playing with them, and would publish feedback at a later date. Does anyone have any further feedback at this stage? Many thanks in anticipation. Regards, Steve On 12/20/05, Steve Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:3AXi4YvnS80J:www.sangoma.com/company/news_releases/octasic.htmhl=en it seems that there will soon be an A102d, A104d and A108d available on the market. Given that only the A104d is available at present, can anyone give feedback on this product from an asterisk/end-user point of view? Is the EC any good? Does it solve your problems? Are the drivers stable? How is the voice quality? What size of server CPU did you use/need? etc etc etc... Any opinion would be useful to save us investing $$$s at this stage :). ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] HW Echo Cancellers
Steve, I just complete a setup of asterisk server in a production environment with a single A104D and there is no echo and the quality is okay. goksie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Davies Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 6:06 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] HW Echo Cancellers Hi, In December, I posted an enquiry asking whether anyone had experience with the Sangoma A104d cards (see below) - I got a couple of responses, but basically it was that people have started playing with them, and would publish feedback at a later date. Does anyone have any further feedback at this stage? Many thanks in anticipation. Regards, Steve On 12/20/05, Steve Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:3AXi4YvnS80J:www.sangoma.com/company/ne ws_releases/octasic.htmhl=en it seems that there will soon be an A102d, A104d and A108d available on the market. Given that only the A104d is available at present, can anyone give feedback on this product from an asterisk/end-user point of view? Is the EC any good? Does it solve your problems? Are the drivers stable? How is the voice quality? What size of server CPU did you use/need? etc etc etc... Any opinion would be useful to save us investing $$$s at this stage :). ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] HW Echo Cancellers
Hello, Works great for me as well. over 3 months in production with no problems/no echos. MATT--- On 3/7/06, ADEGOKE ARUNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, I just complete a setup of asterisk server in a production environment with a single A104D and there is no echo and the quality is okay. goksie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Davies Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 6:06 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] HW Echo Cancellers Hi, In December, I posted an enquiry asking whether anyone had experience with the Sangoma A104d cards (see below) - I got a couple of responses, but basically it was that people have started playing with them, and would publish feedback at a later date. Does anyone have any further feedback at this stage? Many thanks in anticipation. Regards, Steve On 12/20/05, Steve Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:3AXi4YvnS80J:www.sangoma.com/company/ne ws_releases/octasic.htmhl=en it seems that there will soon be an A102d, A104d and A108d available on the market. Given that only the A104d is available at present, can anyone give feedback on this product from an asterisk/end-user point of view? Is the EC any good? Does it solve your problems? Are the drivers stable? How is the voice quality? What size of server CPU did you use/need? etc etc etc... Any opinion would be useful to save us investing $$$s at this stage :). ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] HW Echo Cancellers
On 12/16/05, Jason Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To solve echo problems, I'm considering 2 alternatives. 1 Sangoma A104d - I can't find support for asterisk 1.2.1 This is an interesting possibilty too - Even if Asterisk 1.2.1 is not yet supported. I currently make heavy use of the excellent A101/2 kit, and from this (Google Cache) article: http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:3AXi4YvnS80J:www.sangoma.com/company/news_releases/octasic.htmhl=en it seems that there will soon be an A102d, A104d and A108d available on the market. Given that only the A104d is available at present, can anyone give feedback on this product from an asterisk/end-user point of view? Is the EC any good? Does it solve your problems? Are the drivers stable? How is the voice quality? What size of server CPU did you use/need? etc etc etc... Any opinion would be useful to save us investing $$$s at this stage :). Many thanks, Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] HW Echo Cancellers
Hello, I am currently testing the Sangoma a104d echo-can card and comparing it to the Digium TE406P. I should be ready to release my testing results next week, I was a bit sidetracked by some T1 problems which have delayed my review. Even though the a104d is not supported on 1.2. I did have it running for about a month on 1.2 tree code. I had to manually do the zaptel patch, but it does work. Overall I did not have any huge echo issues to begin with and it is important to mention that there are some echo problems that no echo-canceller can solve. But they both did work and audio was nicely echo-free from both the Digium and Sangoma HW echo-can cards. MATT--- On 12/20/05, Steve Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/16/05, Jason Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To solve echo problems, I'm considering 2 alternatives. 1 Sangoma A104d - I can't find support for asterisk 1.2.1 This is an interesting possibilty too - Even if Asterisk 1.2.1 is not yet supported. I currently make heavy use of the excellent A101/2 kit, and from this (Google Cache) article: http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:3AXi4YvnS80J:www.sangoma.com/company/news_releases/octasic.htmhl=en it seems that there will soon be an A102d, A104d and A108d available on the market. Given that only the A104d is available at present, can anyone give feedback on this product from an asterisk/end-user point of view? Is the EC any good? Does it solve your problems? Are the drivers stable? How is the voice quality? What size of server CPU did you use/need? etc etc etc... Any opinion would be useful to save us investing $$$s at this stage :). Many thanks, Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] HW Echo Cancellers
On 12/16/05, Darren Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $1k for a single port T1 I've gone down the Tellabs route, and am infinitely more happy.thanks C F for the docs.. -D NP, anytime :) You seen the pics of the 253C? it's on the wiki. I'm still looking for detailed docs on that. But I think I'll manage with just what I posted there. Anyhow, I called Orion and they told me $900.00 (US) for the single T1 desktop model. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Steve Davies Sent: Fri 12/16/2005 10:57 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] HW Echo Cancellers On 12/16/05, Darren Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have used the orion...you can buy right from them. However, I was not impressed with their sales teamI have one on a beta test, and they threatened to call a collection agency in when I refused paybent before the beta expired. Can you give an indication of price for their units? I've tried mailing a couple of times, but received no answer. I am just interested to know what price range we'd be looking at. Thanks, Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] HW Echo Cancellers
On 12/16/05, Steve Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/16/05, Darren Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $1k for a single port T1 I've gone down the Tellabs route, and am infinitely more happy.thanks C F for the docs.. Tellabs looks a little too up-scale for what I need :). $1k for a single port orion unit might be worth considering for really stubborn installs though. Why? they go for around $100.00 on eBay. Does anyone else have suggestions for external E1 hardware echo canceller solutions? In my case, I would be interested in one or two port desktop offerings, but I'm interested in larger scale for research purposes. Thanks again. Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] HW Echo Cancellers
Hi, To solve echo problems, I'm considering 2 alternatives. 1 Sangoma A104d - I can't find support for asterisk 1.2.1 2 Desktop echo canceller - http://www.oriontelecom.com/echo_canceller/desktop/e1_ec_desktop.html - I want to know where to buy and price. Any suggestion is appreciated. Thanks. Jason. p.s. : asterisk cli command reload can change rx_gain and tx_gain? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] HW Echo Cancellers
I have used the orion...you can buy right from them. However, I was not impressed with their sales teamI have one on a beta test, and they threatened to call a collection agency in when I refused paybent before the beta expired. I had some weird DTMF issues with the Orion, otherwise ok. -D -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Kim Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 5:52 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [Asterisk-Users] HW Echo Cancellers Hi, To solve echo problems, I'm considering 2 alternatives. 1 Sangoma A104d - I can't find support for asterisk 1.2.1 2 Desktop echo canceller - http://www.oriontelecom.com/echo_canceller/desktop/e1_ec_desktop.html - I want to know where to buy and price. Any suggestion is appreciated. Thanks. Jason. p.s. : asterisk cli command reload can change rx_gain and tx_gain? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] HW Echo Cancellers
On 12/16/05, Darren Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have used the orion...you can buy right from them. However, I was not impressed with their sales teamI have one on a beta test, and they threatened to call a collection agency in when I refused paybent before the beta expired. Can you give an indication of price for their units? I've tried mailing a couple of times, but received no answer. I am just interested to know what price range we'd be looking at. Thanks, Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] HW Echo Cancellers
$1k for a single port T1 I've gone down the Tellabs route, and am infinitely more happy.thanks C F for the docs.. -D From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Steve Davies Sent: Fri 12/16/2005 10:57 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] HW Echo Cancellers On 12/16/05, Darren Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have used the orion...you can buy right from them. However, I was not impressed with their sales teamI have one on a beta test, and they threatened to call a collection agency in when I refused paybent before the beta expired. Can you give an indication of price for their units? I've tried mailing a couple of times, but received no answer. I am just interested to know what price range we'd be looking at. Thanks, Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users winmail.dat___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] HW Echo Cancellers
On 12/16/05, Darren Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $1k for a single port T1 I've gone down the Tellabs route, and am infinitely more happy.thanks C F for the docs.. Tellabs looks a little too up-scale for what I need :). $1k for a single port orion unit might be worth considering for really stubborn installs though. Does anyone else have suggestions for external E1 hardware echo canceller solutions? In my case, I would be interested in one or two port desktop offerings, but I'm interested in larger scale for research purposes. Thanks again. Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
