Re: [Asterisk-Users] HandyTone 488 ata?
On Sun, 2006-01-29 at 19:15 +, Phil Blundell wrote: Our HT386s are also a little bit prone to locking up and needing to be rebooted, but that seems to be a different problem: it occurs less often than on the HT488, and seems to be triggered by something to do with call transfers (which we never did with the 488). I've just bought an SPA-3000 to replace the HT488, though I haven't installed it yet. I'm hoping that I'll have a better experience with this one. If that works out, I might toss the 386s in favour of SPA-2000s as well. In case anybody is interested, an update on this: I replaced the HT488 and one of the '386s with an SPA-3000 and an SPA-2002 respectively, and reliability does seem to be much improved. Neither of those units have crashed yet after a couple of weeks of use, whereas the '488 would lock up almost every day and the '386 about once a week on average. Early on, I had a bit of a problem with the SPA-3000 apparently not hanging up the FXO line properly at the end of a call; this seems to have gone away after some tweaking of the line settings, but I'm still keeping it under review. I also had a bit of a battle getting the dialplan on the SPAs working right, and I suspect there might still be a couple of things wrong there. The SPAs seem to be generally more configurable than the Handytones, as well. In particular, it looks like the ring cadences are configurable, which should be a welcome relief to those of my users who complained about the American ring cadence on the Handytone. Overall, I'm happier with the SPAs than the handytones, though neither of them are entirely perfect. Oh well. p. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] HandyTone 488 ata?
On Feb 19, 2006, at 6:06 AM, Phil Blundell wrote: Overall, I'm happier with the SPAs than the handytones, though neither of them are entirely perfect. Oh well. Thanks for the update... I am being told by the freaks at Grandstream that there will be a firmware update forthcoming to try to resolve the issues with the HT-488. Promises, Promises. Marty ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] HandyTone 488 ata?
I played with FXO on the HT488 a bit, but didn't have a whole lot of luck. We had a bit of a problem with echo, but more seriously the thing kept getting itself into a variety of wedged states: sometimes it would lock up altogether (usually with its button lit up), and sometimes it would refuse to auto-answer calls coming in on the FXO interface. I tried a pair of HT488s at a client's premises about 3 months ago in an attempt to solve hangup issues I was having with a TDM400. It did actually solve the hangup issues, there was practically no echo, but like Phil Blundell, I found the thing would routinely decline to answer incoming calls after a few hours. Resetting the unit would clear the problem for another few hours, then rinse and repeat. I've just bought an SPA-3000 to replace the HT488, though I haven't installed it yet. I'm hoping that I'll have a better experience with this one. If that works out, I might toss the 386s in favour of SPA-2000s as well. I have an SPA-3000 connected to my home phone line since the asterisk server in my workshop is some distance away from where the line comes into the house. In general it's been a reliable piece of kit, only being restarted on the rare occasions there's been a power cut or I've installed new firmware. Unfortunately, echo cancellation isn't great - there's a noticable echo on every call, and from time to time the line doesn't hangup properly. I'm sure with a few hours spent tweaking the unit I might be able to sort those issues out. The FXS side of all these units (HT-286,386,486,488 and SPA-3000) all seem to work fine. My inclination would be to go with the SPA-3000 if you expect to receive or make a lot of calls from the FXO port. If you only need FXO access from time to time, the HT-488 is quite a bit cheaper. Regards, Chris -- C.M. Bagnall, Director, Minotaur I.T. Limited This email is made from 100% recycled electrons ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] HandyTone 488 ata?
The only significant feature that the SPAs seems to be missing compared to the HTs is the Early Dial thing (where it sends each digit to Asterisk until it gets something other than a 484 response back). Has anyone ever gotten that working? I've tried it on every Granstream device I've had (budgetone, HT486, GXP-2000) and it's far from reliable on any of them. Seems that when dialling an external number, the phone accepts the first 3 digits (on a 3-digit extension dialplan), then refuses to accept any more digits. Regards, Chris -- C.M. Bagnall, Director, Minotaur I.T. Limited This email is made from 100% recycled electrons ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] HandyTone 488 ata?
On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 23:46 +, Chris Bagnall wrote: Has anyone ever gotten that working? I've tried it on every Granstream device I've had (budgetone, HT486, GXP-2000) and it's far from reliable on any of them. Seems that when dialling an external number, the phone accepts the first 3 digits (on a 3-digit extension dialplan), then refuses to accept any more digits. Yeah; it's working great on my GXP-2000s (with the 1.0.1.13 firmware). I don't remember what exactly was going wrong with it on the Budgetone and Handytone. I seem to remember there was some bad interaction with SIP authentication, and that setting Asterisk to not require the phone to authenticate itself improved matters a bit. Maybe older versions of the GXP-2000 software were broken in the same way; what version do you have? p. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] HandyTone 488 ata?
Anyone tried to muck around with using the 488 for both fxs and fxo with asterisk? I've been playing with one for the last couple of days, and it looks like its a little lower quality then the spa3k. No gain settings, echo canceller is less then ideal on long analog pstn loops, etc. Anyone with good experiences? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] HandyTone 488 ata?
On Sun, 2006-01-29 at 12:36 -0600, Rich Adamson wrote: Anyone tried to muck around with using the 488 for both fxs and fxo with asterisk? I've been playing with one for the last couple of days, and it looks like its a little lower quality then the spa3k. No gain settings, echo canceller is less then ideal on long analog pstn loops, etc. Anyone with good experiences? I played with FXO on the HT488 a bit, but didn't have a whole lot of luck. We had a bit of a problem with echo, but more seriously the thing kept getting itself into a variety of wedged states: sometimes it would lock up altogether (usually with its button lit up), and sometimes it would refuse to auto-answer calls coming in on the FXO interface. These latter problems have been severe enough that I didn't bother trying to diagnose the echo thing. Plus, even when set to auto answer after 1 ring, it often seemed to wait for three or four rings before picking up. Our HT386s are also a little bit prone to locking up and needing to be rebooted, but that seems to be a different problem: it occurs less often than on the HT488, and seems to be triggered by something to do with call transfers (which we never did with the 488). I've just bought an SPA-3000 to replace the HT488, though I haven't installed it yet. I'm hoping that I'll have a better experience with this one. If that works out, I might toss the 386s in favour of SPA-2000s as well. p. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] HandyTone 488 ata?
Anyone tried to muck around with using the 488 for both fxs and fxo with asterisk? I've been playing with one for the last couple of days, and it looks like its a little lower quality then the spa3k. No gain settings, echo canceller is less then ideal on long analog pstn loops, etc. Anyone with good experiences? I played with FXO on the HT488 a bit, but didn't have a whole lot of luck. We had a bit of a problem with echo, but more seriously the thing kept getting itself into a variety of wedged states: sometimes it would lock up altogether (usually with its button lit up), and sometimes it would refuse to auto-answer calls coming in on the FXO interface. These latter problems have been severe enough that I didn't bother trying to diagnose the echo thing. Plus, even when set to auto answer after 1 ring, it often seemed to wait for three or four rings before picking up. Our HT386s are also a little bit prone to locking up and needing to be rebooted, but that seems to be a different problem: it occurs less often than on the HT488, and seems to be triggered by something to do with call transfers (which we never did with the 488). I've just bought an SPA-3000 to replace the HT488, though I haven't installed it yet. I'm hoping that I'll have a better experience with this one. If that works out, I might toss the 386s in favour of SPA-2000s as well. Thanks for the response. I haven't hit the lockup issue as yet, but then the 488 has only been around here for about 24 hours. Echo is considerably worse then the spa3k. Seems the spa3k functions pretty well (had a few since they first came out), but the echo can on long analog loops leaves some to be desired as well. Short loops seem to work just fine. Rich ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] HandyTone 488 ata?
On Sun, 2006-01-29 at 13:24 -0600, Rich Adamson wrote: Seems the spa3k functions pretty well (had a few since they first came out), but the echo can on long analog loops leaves some to be desired as well. Short loops seem to work just fine. Thanks for the information. Sounds encouraging. The only significant feature that the SPAs seems to be missing compared to the HTs is the Early Dial thing (where it sends each digit to Asterisk until it gets something other than a 484 response back). Without that, my users need to either wait for a timeout or dial #, neither of which is terribly appealing. However, I haven't ever quite succeeded in making Early Dial work reliably on the HTs in any case (although it seems to be fine on our GXP-2000s), so I guess it's not as much of a loss as all that. And, well, I guess I can live in hope that Sipura will implement this one day. p. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] HandyTone 488 ata?
On Jan 29, 2006, at 11:24 AM, Rich Adamson wrote: Anyone tried to muck around with using the 488 for both fxs and fxo with asterisk? I've been playing with one for the last couple of days, and it looks like its a little lower quality then the spa3k. No gain settings, echo canceller is less then ideal on long analog pstn loops, etc. Thanks a lot for posting this topic! I was kind of wondering along the same lines, but didn't have the whole thing together in my mind. I am a newb, so my confidence is lacking I have been using the HT-488 for several months now. My observations are as follows. The locking up that is described by the other poster, seems to be to be related to the routing functions of this device. I have gotten up to 20 days of uptime (current), by disabling this and using the WAN port only. I don't need it's routing anyhow. This issues with the echo and the volume are the same here. I sometimes here echo, and then in the midst of the call I hear a loud static burst and the echo stops. I wasn't entirely sure why this was happening, but it happens both when using the local FXS, and when using a remote AG-168V, so it's clearly and FXO issue. I have a gut feeling that a gain adjustment for this device might also help it's echo cancel function? Is there anyway that anyone knows of to adjust the gain? I am going to NEED to replace this device with some other FXO (external), so if there are other superior options I would love to hear them. I know about the Sipura 3000, but have heard about some issues with that too... Thanks, Marty ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] HandyTone 488 ata?
We started out useing SPA2k but they were prone to stop talking to the ethernet. OK after reboot for awhile but cannot keep going to customer sites and rebooting things. switched to spa2001 and somewhat better but they keept losing registrations and then could not talk to them remotely. Again the reboot issue. Then switched to 386 and the couple I tried worked ok so then installed several 286. Bad move. The 286 regularly lose registrations and lock up. Have beugun replacing them with some 386. so far other than a doa my best luck is with the 386, Of course I do have one that is working great, but I can no longer talk to it:( Will have to replace next time I get onsite with that customer. On Jan 29, 2006, at 1:15 PM, Phil Blundell wrote: On Sun, 2006-01-29 at 12:36 -0600, Rich Adamson wrote: Anyone tried to muck around with using the 488 for both fxs and fxo with asterisk? I've been playing with one for the last couple of days, and it looks like its a little lower quality then the spa3k. No gain settings, echo canceller is less then ideal on long analog pstn loops, etc. Anyone with good experiences? I played with FXO on the HT488 a bit, but didn't have a whole lot of luck. We had a bit of a problem with echo, but more seriously the thing kept getting itself into a variety of wedged states: sometimes it would lock up altogether (usually with its button lit up), and sometimes it would refuse to auto-answer calls coming in on the FXO interface. These latter problems have been severe enough that I didn't bother trying to diagnose the echo thing. Plus, even when set to auto answer after 1 ring, it often seemed to wait for three or four rings before picking up. Our HT386s are also a little bit prone to locking up and needing to be rebooted, but that seems to be a different problem: it occurs less often than on the HT488, and seems to be triggered by something to do with call transfers (which we never did with the 488). I've just bought an SPA-3000 to replace the HT488, though I haven't installed it yet. I'm hoping that I'll have a better experience with this one. If that works out, I might toss the 386s in favour of SPA-2000s as well. p. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
