Re: [Asterisk-Users] Hardware for PBX with 4 incoming/outgoing lines and 20 phones
Most of the time we are only using 3 of the lines for calling. If I used VOIP termination for outgoing calls wouldn't I still need the 4 lines to receive all of our incoming calls? Also do I need to have an IP phone to connect to a Wildcard TDM40B or could I just use the phones we have right now? Thanks. William Suffill wrote: Andrew, Sounds like it could be a good fit for your needs. Although that raises many questions as to how exactly you should deploy it. If you have a good Internet connection to the office in question you could perhaps use VOIP termination for your outbound calls instead of the current 4 PSTN lines. This way if all 20 people on the system could make calls at once or just 4 and you would only pay per minute on the usage. If you have good analog phones already then probably the channel bank route is the best way to support that many phones. Otherwise you could get IP Phones such as the Cisco 79xx , Polycom's or Snoms. Hard to say really what's best without knowing more of how much phone usage is in question and how much you would like to invest in an Asterisk/VOIP solution. Hopefully this along with the other posts you get on the list help you on your deployment. I'd be curious as to what you finally decide on after you weight the options. On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 17:11:36 -0600, Andrew Elchuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I am interested in setting up an Asterisk PBX in my office with digium hardware, and I just have a few questions in regards to what I would need. It is my understanding that an FXO card is used to interface with an incoming/outgoing phone line, and an FXS card is used for interfacing with a phone within the system. Currently we have 4 incoming/outgoing phone lines and would like to have 20 phones in the system. In order to accomodate this, would you either reccommend having 1 TDM04B (4 FXO modules on it) for the 4 incoming/outgoing lines, and 5 TDM40B (4 FXS modules on each) for the 20 phones we would have in the system. Or would you reccommend 1 TDM04B for the 4 incoming/outgoing lines, and a T100P connected to a channel bank of some sort to connect to the internal phones? If you reccommend the T100P and channel bank, where do you suggest I get an FXS channel bank? Please let me know if I got any of this mixed up (like if I got the FXO and FXS cards mixed up) and thank you in advance for your help in us deciding the hardware we need for a new PBX. Andrew Elchuk P.S. We are currently using an X-Like software phone with a free world dialup account for communication with our other office in a different city. My question is if I can configure the extensions.conf to connect to a free world dialup number when executing a dial command, or would I need to edit sip.conf as well or some other configs or is that even possible? Thank you again. -- Andrew Elchuk Technical Associate Cronus Technologies 248 - 111 Research Drive Saskatoon, SK S7N 2X8 Tel: (306) 652-5798 ext. 112 Fax: (306) 652-5799 Toll Free: 1-877-655-5798 http://www.cronustech.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Andrew Elchuk Technical Associate Cronus Technologies 248 - 111 Research Drive Saskatoon, SK S7N 2X8 Tel: (306) 652-5798 ext. 112 Fax: (306) 652-5799 Toll Free: 1-877-655-5798 http://www.cronustech.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Hardware for PBX with 4 incoming/outgoing lines and 20 phones
Andrew Elchuk wrote: Most of the time we are only using 3 of the lines for calling. If I used VOIP termination for outgoing calls wouldn't I still need the 4 lines to receive all of our incoming calls? Also do I need to have an IP phone to connect to a Wildcard TDM40B or could I just use the phones we have right now? Thanks. Don't know if your situation will lend itself to my solution, but it seems to work for me: I called and had the call waiting turned off on my pots line and set up busy call forwarding to my nufone number. Now, when someone dials my pots line, the first call comes in over a channel bank connected to a t100p. Each additional call, whether they call the pots line or the nufone line comes in over iax. I've only had a couple of simultaneous calls going, but I would think I could have as many as my internet connection will support bandwidth wise. I've been using it for a few weeks, and looking at the charges, its pretty cost effective to me. Unless your other three numbers are published or your faxing over several lines, I dont see why you can't shut them off and use one pots lines and voip for the rest. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Hardware for PBX with 4 incoming/outgoing lines and 20 phones
With this solution, I could have a Wildcard TDM400P with 1 to 2 FXO modules on it to handle 1 or 2 incoming calls on our current lines (I would get rid of 2 lines). I would then use a T100P connected to a FXS channel bank with 20 phones or so. Then for any outgoing calls instead of going out on an FXO card, I could just get a VOIP account at a place like iConnectHere and use that for any outgoing calls we make. I believe that would save a lot of money as we do a lot of dialing out and long distance isn't cheap. Is there a specific VOIP provider any of you have experience with or would reccomment, iConnectHere seems not to bad from what I've read. And are there any channel banks that you guys have experience with or think would be good for what we want, I've read about the Rhino Channel Bank and it seems like it could be used? Thanks everyone! Jeff Roberts wrote: Andrew Elchuk wrote: Most of the time we are only using 3 of the lines for calling. If I used VOIP termination for outgoing calls wouldn't I still need the 4 lines to receive all of our incoming calls? Also do I need to have an IP phone to connect to a Wildcard TDM40B or could I just use the phones we have right now? Thanks. Don't know if your situation will lend itself to my solution, but it seems to work for me: I called and had the call waiting turned off on my pots line and set up busy call forwarding to my nufone number. Now, when someone dials my pots line, the first call comes in over a channel bank connected to a t100p. Each additional call, whether they call the pots line or the nufone line comes in over iax. I've only had a couple of simultaneous calls going, but I would think I could have as many as my internet connection will support bandwidth wise. I've been using it for a few weeks, and looking at the charges, its pretty cost effective to me. Unless your other three numbers are published or your faxing over several lines, I dont see why you can't shut them off and use one pots lines and voip for the rest. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Andrew Elchuk Technical Associate Cronus Technologies 248 - 111 Research Drive Saskatoon, SK S7N 2X8 Tel: (306) 652-5798 ext. 112 Fax: (306) 652-5799 Toll Free: 1-877-655-5798 http://www.cronustech.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Hardware for PBX with 4 incoming/outgoing lines and 20 phones
IMHO, If you plan to use analog phones the cheapest is to buy a bunch of sipuras instead of TDM40B. (TDM40B = 4 FXS for $300, $75 each; sipura SPA2000 = 2 FXS for $100, $50 each) Order one TDM04B (4 FXO) and 1 Sipura 2000 for each 2 analog extensions. You can also mix it up, lets say drop two incoming lines and order a 2 FXS, 2 FXO TDM instead. Then subscribe to a VoIP provider like Voicepulse Connect to dial-out through IAX. Use the FXS on the TDM for fax machines and make these the only to dial-out through the analog outgoing lines. Of course, I would rather buy some IP phones instead of analog ones through FXS. For your remote office, depending on the number of extensions, you can either setup a small asterisk box or just use Sipuras 3000 and 2000 connected to your main office's asterisk server. On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 17:11:36 -0600, Andrew Elchuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I am interested in setting up an Asterisk PBX in my office with digium hardware, and I just have a few questions in regards to what I would need. It is my understanding that an FXO card is used to interface with an incoming/outgoing phone line, and an FXS card is used for interfacing with a phone within the system. Currently we have 4 incoming/outgoing phone lines and would like to have 20 phones in the system. In order to accomodate this, would you either reccommend having 1 TDM04B (4 FXO modules on it) for the 4 incoming/outgoing lines, and 5 TDM40B (4 FXS modules on each) for the 20 phones we would have in the system. Or would you reccommend 1 TDM04B for the 4 incoming/outgoing lines, and a T100P connected to a channel bank of some sort to connect to the internal phones? If you reccommend the T100P and channel bank, where do you suggest I get an FXS channel bank? Please let me know if I got any of this mixed up (like if I got the FXO and FXS cards mixed up) and thank you in advance for your help in us deciding the hardware we need for a new PBX. Andrew Elchuk P.S. We are currently using an X-Like software phone with a free world dialup account for communication with our other office in a different city. My question is if I can configure the extensions.conf to connect to a free world dialup number when executing a dial command, or would I need to edit sip.conf as well or some other configs or is that even possible? Thank you again. -- Andrew Elchuk Technical Associate Cronus Technologies 248 - 111 Research Drive Saskatoon, SK S7N 2X8 Tel: (306) 652-5798 ext. 112 Fax: (306) 652-5799 Toll Free: 1-877-655-5798 http://www.cronustech.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Hardware for PBX with 4 incoming/outgoing lines and 20 phones
On Aug 25, 2004, at 9:57 AM, spectro wrote: IMHO, If you plan to use analog phones the cheapest is to buy a bunch of sipuras instead of TDM40B. (TDM40B = 4 FXS for $300, $75 each; sipura SPA2000 = 2 FXS for $100, $50 each) It might be worth looking at the new Linksys PAP2 -- it's only $50, and it's essentially a Sipura 2000. I haven't heard any first-hand revews, though. Scott ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Hardware for PBX with 4 incoming/outgoing lines and 20 phones
Scott Laird wrote: On Aug 25, 2004, at 9:57 AM, spectro wrote: IMHO, If you plan to use analog phones the cheapest is to buy a bunch of sipuras instead of TDM40B. (TDM40B = 4 FXS for $300, $75 each; sipura SPA2000 = 2 FXS for $100, $50 each) It might be worth looking at the new Linksys PAP2 -- it's only $50, and it's essentially a Sipura 2000. I haven't heard any first-hand revews, though. The Linksys PAP2 now available may be locked to Vonage. Anyone actually gotten one yet? Jim James H. Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Hardware for PBX with 4 incoming/outgoing lines and 20 phones
Hello, Just FYI, we have a small asterisk with 4 x100p cards in a cheap motherboard and Athlon processor for our office. There is no way to avoid irq sharing, and we have the ocassional 'chirp' noise. This is the /proc/interrupts output: # cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 0:1449479 XT-PIC timer 1: 1211 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 3: 12428957 XT-PIC wcfxo 5: 12429375 XT-PIC wcfxo 8: 5 XT-PIC rtc 10: 13250633 XT-PIC eth0, wcfxo 11: 12428834 XT-PIC wcfxo 12:278 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse 14: 21213 XT-PIC ide0 NMI: 0 LOC:1449417 ERR: 5283 MIS: 0 Now I have just setup an old Powermac 9600, its replacing the athlon box. It is up and running just for 10 minutes. It works fine, and the /proc/interrupts looks much better: cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 2: 0 PMAC-PIC Edge MACE-txdma 3: 67851 PMAC-PIC Edge MACE-rxdma 12: 7 PMAC-PIC Edge 53C94 13: 51368 PMAC-PIC Edge MESH 14: 63266 PMAC-PIC Edge MACE 15: 0 PMAC-PIC Edge SCC 16: 0 PMAC-PIC Edge SCC 18: 2769 PMAC-PIC Edge ADB 19: 0 PMAC-PIC Edge SWIM3 24:2164186 PMAC-PIC Level wcfxo 25:2164002 PMAC-PIC Level wcfxo 27:2163854 PMAC-PIC Level wcfxo 28:2163665 PMAC-PIC Level wcfxo BAD: 0 For a small PBX a used powermac might work fine... And I still have one pci slot to spare... On Wed, 2004-08-25 at 13:57, spectro wrote: IMHO, If you plan to use analog phones the cheapest is to buy a bunch of sipuras instead of TDM40B. (TDM40B = 4 FXS for $300, $75 each; sipura SPA2000 = 2 FXS for $100, $50 each) Order one TDM04B (4 FXO) and 1 Sipura 2000 for each 2 analog extensions. You can also mix it up, lets say drop two incoming lines and order a 2 FXS, 2 FXO TDM instead. Then subscribe to a VoIP provider like Voicepulse Connect to dial-out through IAX. Use the FXS on the TDM for fax machines and make these the only to dial-out through the analog outgoing lines. Of course, I would rather buy some IP phones instead of analog ones through FXS. For your remote office, depending on the number of extensions, you can either setup a small asterisk box or just use Sipuras 3000 and 2000 connected to your main office's asterisk server. On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 17:11:36 -0600, Andrew Elchuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I am interested in setting up an Asterisk PBX in my office with digium hardware, and I just have a few questions in regards to what I would need. It is my understanding that an FXO card is used to interface with an incoming/outgoing phone line, and an FXS card is used for interfacing with a phone within the system. Currently we have 4 incoming/outgoing phone lines and would like to have 20 phones in the system. In order to accomodate this, would you either reccommend having 1 TDM04B (4 FXO modules on it) for the 4 incoming/outgoing lines, and 5 TDM40B (4 FXS modules on each) for the 20 phones we would have in the system. Or would you reccommend 1 TDM04B for the 4 incoming/outgoing lines, and a T100P connected to a channel bank of some sort to connect to the internal phones? If you reccommend the T100P and channel bank, where do you suggest I get an FXS channel bank? Please let me know if I got any of this mixed up (like if I got the FXO and FXS cards mixed up) and thank you in advance for your help in us deciding the hardware we need for a new PBX. Andrew Elchuk P.S. We are currently using an X-Like software phone with a free world dialup account for communication with our other office in a different city. My question is if I can configure the extensions.conf to connect to a free world dialup number when executing a dial command, or would I need to edit sip.conf as well or some other configs or is that even possible? Thank you again. -- Andrew Elchuk Technical Associate Cronus Technologies 248 - 111 Research Drive Saskatoon, SK S7N 2X8 Tel: (306) 652-5798 ext. 112 Fax: (306) 652-5799 Toll Free: 1-877-655-5798 http://www.cronustech.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Nicolas Gudino [EMAIL PROTECTED] House Internet S.R.L.
Re: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Hardware for PBX with 4 incoming/outgoing lines and 20 phones
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 08:54:37 -1000, James H. Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Laird wrote: It might be worth looking at the new Linksys PAP2 -- it's only $50, and it's essentially a Sipura 2000. I haven't heard any first-hand revews, though. The Linksys PAP2 now available may be locked to Vonage. Anyone actually gotten one yet? I have one. It looks to me like it's locked to Vonage, though I'm not finished experimenting yet. First impressions findings written up at http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11154791~mode=flat. -- Greg Broiles, JD, EA [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lists only. Not for confidential communications.) Law Office of Gregory A. Broiles San Jose, CA ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Hardware for PBX with 4 incoming/outgoing lines and 20 phones
Hi I am interested in setting up an Asterisk PBX in my office with digium hardware, and I just have a few questions in regards to what I would need. It is my understanding that an FXO card is used to interface with an incoming/outgoing phone line, and an FXS card is used for interfacing with a phone within the system. Currently we have 4 incoming/outgoing phone lines and would like to have 20 phones in the system. In order to accomodate this, would you either reccommend having 1 TDM04B (4 FXO modules on it) for the 4 incoming/outgoing lines, and 5 TDM40B (4 FXS modules on each) for the 20 phones we would have in the system. Or would you reccommend 1 TDM04B for the 4 incoming/outgoing lines, and a T100P connected to a channel bank of some sort to connect to the internal phones? If you reccommend the T100P and channel bank, where do you suggest I get an FXS channel bank? Please let me know if I got any of this mixed up (like if I got the FXO and FXS cards mixed up) and thank you in advance for your help in us deciding the hardware we need for a new PBX. Andrew Elchuk P.S. We are currently using an X-Like software phone with a free world dialup account for communication with our other office in a different city. My question is if I can configure the extensions.conf to connect to a free world dialup number when executing a dial command, or would I need to edit sip.conf as well or some other configs or is that even possible? Thank you again. -- Andrew Elchuk Technical Associate Cronus Technologies 248 - 111 Research Drive Saskatoon, SK S7N 2X8 Tel: (306) 652-5798 ext. 112 Fax: (306) 652-5799 Toll Free: 1-877-655-5798 http://www.cronustech.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Hardware for PBX with 4 incoming/outgoing lines and 20 phones
Andrew, Sounds like it could be a good fit for your needs. Although that raises many questions as to how exactly you should deploy it. If you have a good Internet connection to the office in question you could perhaps use VOIP termination for your outbound calls instead of the current 4 PSTN lines. This way if all 20 people on the system could make calls at once or just 4 and you would only pay per minute on the usage. If you have good analog phones already then probably the channel bank route is the best way to support that many phones. Otherwise you could get IP Phones such as the Cisco 79xx , Polycom's or Snoms. Hard to say really what's best without knowing more of how much phone usage is in question and how much you would like to invest in an Asterisk/VOIP solution. Hopefully this along with the other posts you get on the list help you on your deployment. I'd be curious as to what you finally decide on after you weight the options. On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 17:11:36 -0600, Andrew Elchuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I am interested in setting up an Asterisk PBX in my office with digium hardware, and I just have a few questions in regards to what I would need. It is my understanding that an FXO card is used to interface with an incoming/outgoing phone line, and an FXS card is used for interfacing with a phone within the system. Currently we have 4 incoming/outgoing phone lines and would like to have 20 phones in the system. In order to accomodate this, would you either reccommend having 1 TDM04B (4 FXO modules on it) for the 4 incoming/outgoing lines, and 5 TDM40B (4 FXS modules on each) for the 20 phones we would have in the system. Or would you reccommend 1 TDM04B for the 4 incoming/outgoing lines, and a T100P connected to a channel bank of some sort to connect to the internal phones? If you reccommend the T100P and channel bank, where do you suggest I get an FXS channel bank? Please let me know if I got any of this mixed up (like if I got the FXO and FXS cards mixed up) and thank you in advance for your help in us deciding the hardware we need for a new PBX. Andrew Elchuk P.S. We are currently using an X-Like software phone with a free world dialup account for communication with our other office in a different city. My question is if I can configure the extensions.conf to connect to a free world dialup number when executing a dial command, or would I need to edit sip.conf as well or some other configs or is that even possible? Thank you again. -- Andrew Elchuk Technical Associate Cronus Technologies 248 - 111 Research Drive Saskatoon, SK S7N 2X8 Tel: (306) 652-5798 ext. 112 Fax: (306) 652-5799 Toll Free: 1-877-655-5798 http://www.cronustech.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
