RE: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN Card Recommendation

2004-08-26 Thread Kimble Young
http://www.avm.de/en/Produkte/aktive_Controller/B1_PCI/index.js.html

>From the technical details page:

Broad range of D-channel protocols for international use

All major international, European and national D-channel protocols are
available for the B1 PCI v4.0:
Europe: Euro-ISDN (E-DSS1), 1TR6 (deprecated German protocol).
USA: National ISDN 1 (NI-1), 5ESS Custom (AT&T switches), DMS100 (NorTel)

The B1 is thus ready for international applications.


That should allay any uncertainties about it's fitness for use in the USA.

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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:46:17 -0700, Justin Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> > Where do the Fritz cards fit in, then?
> I believe that the AVM Fritz! B1 will work.  It's an active card similar
> to the Diva Server.  The Fritz!Card and A1 are passive cards and are in
> the same boat as the other HFC cards.

Now it seems we're getting somewhere.  I can't seem to find any
reference to this particular model in English, much less sold in US$.
Any ideas where I can find one?

Or are there any other cards that fall in the same category that are
available in the US?

Rob
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN Card Recommendation

2004-08-26 Thread Kimble Young
The AVM B1 has firmware which will allow it to work in Euro or USA ISDN
mode.

As for the interface I'm sure you just need some sort of SBUS/S0 to U
Interface connector. Or buy a B1 that's meant for the US market.

It's a great card. Little expensive new though.

www.avm.de

Kimble.

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The ISDN cards that are so popular with Asterisk have an S/T
interface, which is fine where they're used -- Europe.  In the US, we
need a U interface.  Also, I've been told that certain EuroISDN cards
can't be used in the US because they use E1 signalling (which I don't
know anything about, so I can't say if they're right or wrong...).

Rob

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:09:55 -0500, Paterson, Mark
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What's the deal w/ this setup in the US? I'm a little new to the
> Asterisk thing and my company has an unused ISDN BRI provisioned for
> both data and voice (NT1) Is this not possible?
>
> Rgs,
> Mark
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Fugina
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>
> Good luck finding a Linux/Asterisk-compatible ISDN PCI card that's
> usable in the US.  I've had my eye out for a while, and haven't had any
> luck.  If you do find something, and find someone who will sell it to
> you, please share it with the list...
>
> Rob
>
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 08:26:24 -0500, Paterson, Mark
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm running Asterisk 1.0 RC2 on a RedHat 9.0 box. I have a ISDN BRI
> > line that I would like hook up to my Asterisk server and would like to
>
> > ask the group what you guys would recommend as far as isdn cards that
> > install easily into the Linux and asterisk environment.
> >
> > Rgs,
> > Mark
> >
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN Card Recommendation

2004-08-26 Thread Rob Fugina
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:46:17 -0700, Justin Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> > Where do the Fritz cards fit in, then?
> I believe that the AVM Fritz! B1 will work.  It's an active card similar
> to the Diva Server.  The Fritz!Card and A1 are passive cards and are in
> the same boat as the other HFC cards.

Now it seems we're getting somewhere.  I can't seem to find any
reference to this particular model in English, much less sold in US$. 
Any ideas where I can find one?

Or are there any other cards that fall in the same category that are
available in the US?

Rob
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN Card Recommendation

2004-08-26 Thread Justin Huff
> The Eicon Diva Server BRI cards will work fine in the US, with the
> addition of an NT1 device, but they're pricey.
Yup.

> The cheap HFC cards will NOT work in the US, even with an external
> NT1, because they won't speak NI1.
Right now, yep.

> Where do the Fritz cards fit in, then?
I believe that the AVM Fritz! B1 will work.  It's an active card similar
to the Diva Server.  The Fritz!Card and A1 are passive cards and are in
the same boat as the other HFC cards.

--Justin

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN Card Recommendation

2004-08-26 Thread Rob Fugina
Ok, let me try to make sure I've got this straight, then...

The Eicon Diva Server BRI cards will work fine in the US, with the
addition of an NT1 device, but they're pricey.

The cheap HFC cards will NOT work in the US, even with an external
NT1, because they won't speak NI1.

Where do the Fritz cards fit in, then?

Rob

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 11:56:30 -0700, Justin Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm running Asterisk 1.0 RC2 on a RedHat 9.0 box. I have a ISDN BRI line
> > that I would like hook up to my Asterisk server and would like to ask
> > the group what you guys would recommend as far as isdn cards that
> > install easily into the Linux and asterisk environment.
> 
> I've done a couple installs with the Eicon Diva Server BRI cards.  They
> seem to work fine with CAPI and chan_capi.  However, they are pricey.  A
> quick froogle search has one company listing them at $560. Oh, make sure
> you pick up a NT1 (eBay is good) as the card has a S/T interface.
> 
> The cheap HFC based cards are great...if you live in EuroISDN land.  US
> telcos never really figured out how to make ISDN make sense, and we
> ended up with NationalISDN (NI).  Last I heard the only think stopping
> asterisk drivers for the HFC cards from supporting NI1 was a lack of
> time, money, and the right Bellcore specs.
> 
> I *really* like ISDN and I think it could be great for a lot of small
> business use.  However, US telcos rather dislike it.
> 
> --Justin
> 
> 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN Card Recommendation

2004-08-26 Thread Justin Huff
> I'm running Asterisk 1.0 RC2 on a RedHat 9.0 box. I have a ISDN BRI line
> that I would like hook up to my Asterisk server and would like to ask
> the group what you guys would recommend as far as isdn cards that
> install easily into the Linux and asterisk environment.  

I've done a couple installs with the Eicon Diva Server BRI cards.  They
seem to work fine with CAPI and chan_capi.  However, they are pricey.  A
quick froogle search has one company listing them at $560. Oh, make sure
you pick up a NT1 (eBay is good) as the card has a S/T interface.

The cheap HFC based cards are great...if you live in EuroISDN land.  US
telcos never really figured out how to make ISDN make sense, and we
ended up with NationalISDN (NI).  Last I heard the only think stopping 
asterisk drivers for the HFC cards from supporting NI1 was a lack of
time, money, and the right Bellcore specs.

I *really* like ISDN and I think it could be great for a lot of small
business use.  However, US telcos rather dislike it.

--Justin

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN Card Recommendation

2004-08-26 Thread Lyle Giese
To convert a U to S/T, you need an NT1.  I just picked up one on ebay for
less than $20 shipped.

E1 is for ISDN PRI's, not BRI's.

Lle

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> The ISDN cards that are so popular with Asterisk have an S/T
> interface, which is fine where they're used -- Europe.  In the US, we
> need a U interface.  Also, I've been told that certain EuroISDN cards
> can't be used in the US because they use E1 signalling (which I don't
> know anything about, so I can't say if they're right or wrong...).
>
> Rob
>
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:09:55 -0500, Paterson, Mark
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What's the deal w/ this setup in the US? I'm a little new to the
> > Asterisk thing and my company has an unused ISDN BRI provisioned for
> > both data and voice (NT1) Is this not possible?
> >
> > Rgs,
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Fugina
> > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 9:12 AM
> > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN Card Recommendation
> >
> > Good luck finding a Linux/Asterisk-compatible ISDN PCI card that's
> > usable in the US.  I've had my eye out for a while, and haven't had any
> > luck.  If you do find something, and find someone who will sell it to
> > you, please share it with the list...
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 08:26:24 -0500, Paterson, Mark
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I'm running Asterisk 1.0 RC2 on a RedHat 9.0 box. I have a ISDN BRI
> > > line that I would like hook up to my Asterisk server and would like to
> >
> > > ask the group what you guys would recommend as far as isdn cards that
> > > install easily into the Linux and asterisk environment.
> > >
> > > Rgs,
> > > Mark
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN Card Recommendation

2004-08-26 Thread Roger Schreiter
Rob Fugina schrieb:
The ISDN cards that are so popular with Asterisk have an S/T
interface, which is fine where they're used -- Europe.  In the US, we
need a U interface.  Also, I've been told that certain EuroISDN cards
can't be used in the US because they use E1 signalling (which I don't
...
Hi,
is the AVM Fritz!Card PCI not compatible with
US american ISDN?
It's available for 55 EUR.
Roger.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN Card Recommendation

2004-08-26 Thread Rob Fugina
The ISDN cards that are so popular with Asterisk have an S/T
interface, which is fine where they're used -- Europe.  In the US, we
need a U interface.  Also, I've been told that certain EuroISDN cards
can't be used in the US because they use E1 signalling (which I don't
know anything about, so I can't say if they're right or wrong...).

Rob

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:09:55 -0500, Paterson, Mark
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What's the deal w/ this setup in the US? I'm a little new to the
> Asterisk thing and my company has an unused ISDN BRI provisioned for
> both data and voice (NT1) Is this not possible?
> 
> Rgs,
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Fugina
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 9:12 AM
> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN Card Recommendation
> 
> Good luck finding a Linux/Asterisk-compatible ISDN PCI card that's
> usable in the US.  I've had my eye out for a while, and haven't had any
> luck.  If you do find something, and find someone who will sell it to
> you, please share it with the list...
> 
> Rob
> 
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 08:26:24 -0500, Paterson, Mark
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm running Asterisk 1.0 RC2 on a RedHat 9.0 box. I have a ISDN BRI
> > line that I would like hook up to my Asterisk server and would like to
> 
> > ask the group what you guys would recommend as far as isdn cards that
> > install easily into the Linux and asterisk environment.
> >
> > Rgs,
> > Mark
> >
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN Card Recommendation

2004-08-26 Thread Paterson, Mark
What's the deal w/ this setup in the US? I'm a little new to the
Asterisk thing and my company has an unused ISDN BRI provisioned for
both data and voice (NT1) Is this not possible?

Rgs,
Mark

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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN Card Recommendation

Good luck finding a Linux/Asterisk-compatible ISDN PCI card that's
usable in the US.  I've had my eye out for a while, and haven't had any
luck.  If you do find something, and find someone who will sell it to
you, please share it with the list...

Rob

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 08:26:24 -0500, Paterson, Mark
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm running Asterisk 1.0 RC2 on a RedHat 9.0 box. I have a ISDN BRI 
> line that I would like hook up to my Asterisk server and would like to

> ask the group what you guys would recommend as far as isdn cards that 
> install easily into the Linux and asterisk environment.
> 
> Rgs,
> Mark
> 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN Card Recommendation

2004-08-26 Thread Rob Fugina
Good luck finding a Linux/Asterisk-compatible ISDN PCI card that's
usable in the US.  I've had my eye out for a while, and haven't had
any luck.  If you do find something, and find someone who will sell it
to you, please share it with the list...

Rob

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 08:26:24 -0500, Paterson, Mark
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm running Asterisk 1.0 RC2 on a RedHat 9.0 box. I have a ISDN BRI line
> that I would like hook up to my Asterisk server and would like to ask
> the group what you guys would recommend as far as isdn cards that
> install easily into the Linux and asterisk environment.
> 
> Rgs,
> Mark
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN Card Recommendation

2004-08-26 Thread Fares Gianluca
Hi Mark, 
I've succesfully installed an Eicon Diva 2.0 PCI in 10 minutes. It works
fine but i have some problems with CALLER NUMBER: it's always 0.

My box is RedHat 9.0 and asterisk cvs 25-08-2004.

Bye

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Sent: giovedì 26 agosto 2004 15.26
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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN Card Recommendation

I'm running Asterisk 1.0 RC2 on a RedHat 9.0 box. I have a ISDN BRI line
that I would like hook up to my Asterisk server and would like to ask the
group what you guys would recommend as far as isdn cards that install easily
into the Linux and asterisk environment.  
 
Rgs,
Mark

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[Asterisk-Users] ISDN Card Recommendation

2004-08-26 Thread Paterson, Mark
I'm running Asterisk 1.0 RC2 on a RedHat 9.0 box. I have a ISDN BRI line
that I would like hook up to my Asterisk server and would like to ask
the group what you guys would recommend as far as isdn cards that
install easily into the Linux and asterisk environment.  
 
Rgs, 
Mark

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