[Asterisk-Users] Newbie Question: Building an Asterisk system to replace an old PBX but using existing phone

2005-08-11 Thread Sean Rima
I have a brief from a local hotel to build a PBX using Asterisk but they
want to use their exisiting telephones and wiring from an old PBX that
no longer works.

Basically, I can build the system but an looking for a card that will
allow for upto 20 extensions to be wired into the back of the PC. Doeas
anyone know of a solution to this

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie Question: Building an Asterisk system to replace an old PBX but using existing phone

2005-08-11 Thread Chad Osmond
To use the old phones and existing wiring you'll need some E1/T1 FXS
Channel banks  and a T1/E1 Card. Each bank will handle 30/24 phones and
pipe them into a single E1/T1 connection.

You can connect up to 4 (or 8 soon from Sangoma) T1's per card. I really
like the Sangoma cards, there are also Digium cards as well.


The Wiki will have a lot more information regarding Channel Banks and
FXS adapters, I would suggest starting there.

Chad
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I have a brief from a local hotel to build a PBX using Asterisk but they
want to use their exisiting telephones and wiring from an old PBX that
no longer works.

Basically, I can build the system but an looking for a card that will
allow for upto 20 extensions to be wired into the back of the PC. Doeas
anyone know of a solution to this

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie Question: Building an Asterisk system to replace an old PBX but using existing phone

2005-08-11 Thread Tom Hayden
Well, it's unlikely you're going to find a PCI card that can handle
twenty analog lines, however I suggest you look at purchasing a call
bank such as the adit 600.  You then can link up your * server with
the call bank using a T1 card and control and route calls using that
method.

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On 8/11/05, Sean Rima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a brief from a local hotel to build a PBX using Asterisk but they
 want to use their exisiting telephones and wiring from an old PBX that
 no longer works.
 
 Basically, I can build the system but an looking for a card that will
 allow for upto 20 extensions to be wired into the back of the PC. Doeas
 anyone know of a solution to this
 
 Sean--
 ICQ: 679813FidoNet: 2:263/950
 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AOL: tcobone
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie Question: Building an Asterisk system to replace an old PBX but using existing phone

2005-08-11 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Thursday 11 August 2005 08:34, Sean Rima wrote:
 I have a brief from a local hotel to build a PBX using Asterisk but they
 want to use their exisiting telephones and wiring from an old PBX that
 no longer works.

Can you plug one of the phones into a REGULAR telephone line and get dialtone 
and take and place calls?

If the answer is yes, you can use a te110p (T1 card) and an FXS channel bank 
to connect the phones to Asterisk.

If not, you're SOL unless you can find some kind of proprietary-to-standard 
phone interface, and the chances of that are slim to none.

-A.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie Question: Building an Asterisk system to replace an old PBX but using existing phone

2005-08-11 Thread Sean Rima
Chad Osmond wrote:
 To use the old phones and existing wiring you'll need some E1/T1 FXS
 Channel banks  and a T1/E1 Card. Each bank will handle 30/24 phones and
 pipe them into a single E1/T1 connection.
 
 You can connect up to 4 (or 8 soon from Sangoma) T1's per card. I really
 like the Sangoma cards, there are also Digium cards as well.
 
 
 The Wiki will have a lot more information regarding Channel Banks and
 FXS adapters, I would suggest starting there.

Thanks for this info, I forgot to check the wiki, I am trying to get
them to use IP phones and ditch the old wiring anyway

Sean

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie Question: Building an Asterisk system to replace an old PBX but using existing phone

2005-08-11 Thread Sean Rima
Tom Hayden wrote:
 Well, it's unlikely you're going to find a PCI card that can handle
 twenty analog lines, however I suggest you look at purchasing a call
 bank such as the adit 600.  You then can link up your * server with
 the call bank using a T1 card and control and route calls using that
 method.
 

I told them it would be easier and cheaper to ditch the old phones and
wiring to go for dedicated Asterisk phones, I may still go this method
as I need a few for myself anyway

Sean

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie Question: Building an Asterisk system to replace an old PBX but using existing phone

2005-08-11 Thread Sean Rima
Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
 On Thursday 11 August 2005 08:34, Sean Rima wrote:
 I have a brief from a local hotel to build a PBX using Asterisk but they
 want to use their exisiting telephones and wiring from an old PBX that
 no longer works.
 
 Can you plug one of the phones into a REGULAR telephone line and get dialtone 
 and take and place calls?
 
 If the answer is yes, you can use a te110p (T1 card) and an FXS channel bank 
 to connect the phones to Asterisk.
 
 If not, you're SOL unless you can find some kind of proprietary-to-standard 
 phone interface, and the chances of that are slim to none.
 

They are standard phones but I also want them to have all the features
that Asterisk does provide, so I may build a bos for my house and show
them that as well

Sean

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie Question: Building an Asterisk system to replace an old PBX but using existing phone

2005-08-11 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Thursday 11 August 2005 09:31, Sean Rima wrote:
 They are standard phones but I also want them to have all the features
 that Asterisk does provide, so I may build a bos for my house and show
 them that as well

Standard phones can still do MWI (if they have a light), call transfers, 
three-way calling... all the good stuff that any Zap channel can provide.

If they have displays and conform to ADSI they can even have soft buttons and 
so on.  I have that at my house.

-A.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie Question: Building an Asterisk system to replace an old PBX but using existing phone

2005-08-11 Thread Sean Rima
Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
 On Thursday 11 August 2005 09:31, Sean Rima wrote:
 They are standard phones but I also want them to have all the features
 that Asterisk does provide, so I may build a bos for my house and show
 them that as well
 
 Standard phones can still do MWI (if they have a light), call transfers, 
 three-way calling... all the good stuff that any Zap channel can provide.
 
 If they have displays and conform to ADSI they can even have soft buttons and 
 so on.  I have that at my house.
 

Nope nothing like that only basic telephones

Sean

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie Question: Building an Asterisk system to replace an old PBX but using existing phone

2005-08-11 Thread Tom Rymes

On Aug 11, 2005, at 10:35 AM, Sean Rima wrote:


Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:


On Thursday 11 August 2005 09:31, Sean Rima wrote:

They are standard phones but I also want them to have all the  
features
that Asterisk does provide, so I may build a bos for my house and  
show

them that as well



Standard phones can still do MWI (if they have a light), call  
transfers,
three-way calling... all the good stuff that any Zap channel can  
provide.


If they have displays and conform to ADSI they can even have soft  
buttons and

so on.  I have that at my house.


Nope nothing like that only basic telephones

Sean


This may be heresy for some, but  I would look into [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a  
reasonably sized hotel. It has wakeup calls  weather built-in, easy  
for the hotel to configure, etc, and despite the home in the name,  
it is solid and robust. Contrary to popular belief, you can also  
extend it as needed by using the extensions_custom.conf file.


Tom
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie Question: Building an Asterisk system to replace an old PBX but using existing phone

2005-08-11 Thread Sean Rima
Tom Rymes wrote:
 On Aug 11, 2005, at 10:35 AM, Sean Rima wrote:
 
 Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:

 On Thursday 11 August 2005 09:31, Sean Rima wrote:

 They are standard phones but I also want them to have all the  features
 that Asterisk does provide, so I may build a bos for my house and  show
 them that as well


 Standard phones can still do MWI (if they have a light), call 
 transfers,
 three-way calling... all the good stuff that any Zap channel can 
 provide.

 If they have displays and conform to ADSI they can even have soft 
 buttons and
 so on.  I have that at my house.

 Nope nothing like that only basic telephones

 Sean
 
 This may be heresy for some, but  I would look into [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a 
 reasonably sized hotel. It has wakeup calls  weather built-in, easy 
 for the hotel to configure, etc, and despite the home in the name,  it
 is solid and robust. Contrary to popular belief, you can also  extend it
 as needed by using the extensions_custom.conf file.
 

I will have a look at that and see if it helps, byt the sounds itmay

Sean

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie Question: Building an Asterisk system to replace an old PBX but using existing phone

2005-08-11 Thread Tom Rymes

On Aug 11, 2005, at 11:49 AM, Sean Rima wrote:


Tom Rymes wrote:


On Aug 11, 2005, at 10:35 AM, Sean Rima wrote:



Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:



On Thursday 11 August 2005 09:31, Sean Rima wrote:


They are standard phones but I also want them to have all the   
features
that Asterisk does provide, so I may build a bos for my house  
and  show

them that as well


Sean,

The client has a good idea in keeping the basic analog phones, since  
all of their guests know how to use them. If you put a SPA-841 or a  
Polycom IP301, you will likely intimidate the guests. This might  
sound silly to most of us techies, but picture a 74 year old guest  
just trying to call and let his children know he arrived safely. He  
might very well look at the Polycom and be confused, especially if he  
dials and has to press send, etc.


Also, if they already have the phones, the per channel cost of using  
a T1 card and a channel bank is reasonably low, compared to a decent  
SIP hardphone. Not to mention that if you don't spend the extra money  
for a good hardphone, you are likely to have quality issues, as I  
have heard many quality complaints about many of the cheaper phones.


Finally, sticking with the analog phones means you won't have to re- 
wire the whole place.


Tom
Cascade Link Systems
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie Question: Building an Asterisk system to replace an old PBX but using existing phone

2005-08-11 Thread Sean Rima
Tom Rymes wrote:
 On Aug 11, 2005, at 11:49 AM, Sean Rima wrote:
 
 Tom Rymes wrote:

 On Aug 11, 2005, at 10:35 AM, Sean Rima wrote:


 Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:


 On Thursday 11 August 2005 09:31, Sean Rima wrote:


 They are standard phones but I also want them to have all the  
 features
 that Asterisk does provide, so I may build a bos for my house 
 and  show
 them that as well
 
 Sean,
 
 The client has a good idea in keeping the basic analog phones, since 
 all of their guests know how to use them. If you put a SPA-841 or a 
 Polycom IP301, you will likely intimidate the guests. This might  sound
 silly to most of us techies, but picture a 74 year old guest  just
 trying to call and let his children know he arrived safely. He  might
 very well look at the Polycom and be confused, especially if he  dials
 and has to press send, etc.
 
 Also, if they already have the phones, the per channel cost of using  a
 T1 card and a channel bank is reasonably low, compared to a decent  SIP
 hardphone. Not to mention that if you don't spend the extra money  for a
 good hardphone, you are likely to have quality issues, as I  have heard
 many quality complaints about many of the cheaper phones.
 
 Finally, sticking with the analog phones means you won't have to re-
 wire the whole place.
 

I never thought of it this way, I will prive up a T1 card and bank,
possibly on ebay as well as there are a a few items there for sale

Sean

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