RE: [Asterisk-Users] OZ ISDN

2004-07-14 Thread Michael Miller
I have installed and used the Fritz!Card with Telstra's ISDN OnRamp2. The
configuration under capi was quite easy and the setup worked great. I would
recommend the Fritz over analog.

Michael

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Kimble Young wrote:

If you go the analogue route:

* You'll get poor audio compared to ISDN which is crystal.
* Each number will act like a seperate line unlike with an ISDN card where
you can receive two calls simultaneously on the same line.
* You'll lose cool ISDN features like call deflection.
* It won't be as reliable (speculation).
* It'll probably cost just as much for two analogue cards as a fritz card.

On the positive side you won't have to go through a lot of frustration
getting the fritz working.

In summary using an analogue adaptor on ISDN rather defeats the purpose of
ISDN.

You are absolutely spot on. I am hesitated by the sheer amount of 
configuration with the ISDN driver.

The actual implementation is actually even a bit of complicated. The 
ISDN is used primarily for internet connection and voip from an 
Australian provider. In that case I need to use whatever driver to 
intiate dail up to the internet. Will it be isdn4l in this case. Now if 
and when internet is down for whatever reason, asterisk can still 
perhaps use the capi driver to connect calls.

I don't have much experience in isdn at all. I am not sure where such 
setup can be done simitaneously. It would be nice if someone can point 
me to the right direction.

The Telstra connection already come with Nt1 +11 modem and I have 
already got pretty good doc to set it up with redhat 9.0. So I don't 
have to worry about isdn stuff. I wish to go the correct route which is 
using Fritz card to do this but I am afraid it is not possible.

Regards

-- 
David Kwok, CISSP
Tel: 612 82315701 ext 1002
Iaxtel/FWD # 17001813482 ext 1002
CISSP, Certified Information System Security Professional



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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Oz ISDN

2004-07-13 Thread Adam Goryachev
On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 12:28, Kimble Young wrote:
 David,
 
 If you go the analogue route:
 
 * You'll get poor audio compared to ISDN which is crystal.
 * Each number will act like a seperate line unlike with an ISDN card where
 you can receive two calls simultaneously on the same line.

Actually, you can configure the NT1+II so that it will behave
differently. (ie, you can set it so that calls to each number will
'prefer' a specific port, but if that port is in use will use the other
port.

 * You'll lose cool ISDN features like call deflection.

Dunno if call deflection even works here, haven't actually got around to
trying it yet.

 * It won't be as reliable (speculation).

Well, as with any comparison between analogue/digital, the digital is
definitely preferred. You *know* when the other side answers/hangs
up/etc. This gives you accurate cdr (billing) information as well as
call progress. Stops you from causing the line to be busy long after the
other party has hung up. etc...

 * It'll probably cost just as much for two analogue cards as a fritz card.

Probably, I'm not sure, but the frustration factor might in the long
run...

 On the positive side you won't have to go through a lot of frustration
 getting the fritz working.

Dunno about this, I got a fritz card about 2 weeks ago for a customer's
pbx. Plugged the card in, followed the instructions available on the
wiki, and basically it just worked. Perhaps if I knew less about linux,
it might have been harder, but from memory, I didn't do anything
specially fancy...

If I was doing this for myself, at home, I would definitely use the
fritz card.

Also, AFAIK, there are no aca approved (old austel tick) fxo cards.

In either case, I would suggest you discuss your options with the folks
at www.atp.org.au, I've found them to be quite helpful, and definitely
quite knowledgeable

Regards,
Adam

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Oz ISDN

2004-07-13 Thread Adam Goryachev
On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 00:42, Adam Goryachev wrote:

 In either case, I would suggest you discuss your options with the folks
 at www.atp.org.au, I've found them to be quite helpful, and definitely
 quite knowledgeable

PS, most digium resellers seem to follow the standard digium policy of
offering 1 hour of post sales installation support. So if you went the
ISDN route, then they would most likely be able to assist you if you got
into trouble. The above people seem to offer the same.

Regards,
Adam

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[Asterisk-Users] Oz ISDN

2004-07-12 Thread dkwok
In Australia, Telstra, the local telco provides isdn modem for isdn 
connection. The modem has 2 analogue telephone jacks and a serial port 
for connection to dialup internet.

My question is that will it be possible to use Zaptel TDM02B to connect 
to the analogue jack instead of getting a fritz card to do the 
telephony. Will there be less feature if doing so?

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Tel: 612 82315701 ext 1002
Iaxtel/FWD # 17001813482 ext 1002
CISSP, Certified Information System Security Professional


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Oz ISDN

2004-07-12 Thread Kimble Young
David,

If you go the analogue route:

* You'll get poor audio compared to ISDN which is crystal.
* Each number will act like a seperate line unlike with an ISDN card where
you can receive two calls simultaneously on the same line.
* You'll lose cool ISDN features like call deflection.
* It won't be as reliable (speculation).
* It'll probably cost just as much for two analogue cards as a fritz card.

On the positive side you won't have to go through a lot of frustration
getting the fritz working.

In summary using an analogue adaptor on ISDN rather defeats the purpose of
ISDN.

Regards,

Kimble Young

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In Australia, Telstra, the local telco provides isdn modem for isdn
connection. The modem has 2 analogue telephone jacks and a serial port
for connection to dialup internet.

My question is that will it be possible to use Zaptel TDM02B to connect
to the analogue jack instead of getting a fritz card to do the
telephony. Will there be less feature if doing so?


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David Kwok, CISSP
Tel: 612 82315701 ext 1002
Iaxtel/FWD # 17001813482 ext 1002
CISSP, Certified Information System Security Professional

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[Asterisk-Users] OZ ISDN

2004-07-12 Thread dkwok
Kimble Young wrote:
If you go the analogue route:
* You'll get poor audio compared to ISDN which is crystal.
* Each number will act like a seperate line unlike with an ISDN card where
you can receive two calls simultaneously on the same line.
* You'll lose cool ISDN features like call deflection.
* It won't be as reliable (speculation).
* It'll probably cost just as much for two analogue cards as a fritz card.
On the positive side you won't have to go through a lot of frustration
getting the fritz working.
In summary using an analogue adaptor on ISDN rather defeats the purpose of
ISDN.
You are absolutely spot on. I am hesitated by the sheer amount of 
configuration with the ISDN driver.

The actual implementation is actually even a bit of complicated. The 
ISDN is used primarily for internet connection and voip from an 
Australian provider. In that case I need to use whatever driver to 
intiate dail up to the internet. Will it be isdn4l in this case. Now if 
and when internet is down for whatever reason, asterisk can still 
perhaps use the capi driver to connect calls.

I don't have much experience in isdn at all. I am not sure where such 
setup can be done simitaneously. It would be nice if someone can point 
me to the right direction.

The Telstra connection already come with Nt1 +11 modem and I have 
already got pretty good doc to set it up with redhat 9.0. So I don't 
have to worry about isdn stuff. I wish to go the correct route which is 
using Fritz card to do this but I am afraid it is not possible.

Regards
--
David Kwok, CISSP
Tel: 612 82315701 ext 1002
Iaxtel/FWD # 17001813482 ext 1002
CISSP, Certified Information System Security Professional


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] OZ ISDN

2004-07-12 Thread Kimble Young
You can connect to the internet via CAPI and even have it dynamically
add/drop channels as calls are setup/pulled down by other applications. As
for how to do it I have no idea because I have no need for that type of
setup.

It's not that hard to install and configure the card with capi. It's more
that you may run into difficulties and trying to find the info required to
fix them is a task.

I'm pretty sure everything you need can be achieved through purely CAPI
interfaces. There's a lot of info out there if you search for fritz capi ppp
on google.

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Kimble Young wrote:

If you go the analogue route:

* You'll get poor audio compared to ISDN which is crystal.
* Each number will act like a seperate line unlike with an ISDN card where
you can receive two calls simultaneously on the same line.
* You'll lose cool ISDN features like call deflection.
* It won't be as reliable (speculation).
* It'll probably cost just as much for two analogue cards as a fritz card.

On the positive side you won't have to go through a lot of frustration
getting the fritz working.

In summary using an analogue adaptor on ISDN rather defeats the purpose of
ISDN.

You are absolutely spot on. I am hesitated by the sheer amount of
configuration with the ISDN driver.

The actual implementation is actually even a bit of complicated. The
ISDN is used primarily for internet connection and voip from an
Australian provider. In that case I need to use whatever driver to
intiate dail up to the internet. Will it be isdn4l in this case. Now if
and when internet is down for whatever reason, asterisk can still
perhaps use the capi driver to connect calls.

I don't have much experience in isdn at all. I am not sure where such
setup can be done simitaneously. It would be nice if someone can point
me to the right direction.

The Telstra connection already come with Nt1 +11 modem and I have
already got pretty good doc to set it up with redhat 9.0. So I don't
have to worry about isdn stuff. I wish to go the correct route which is
using Fritz card to do this but I am afraid it is not possible.

Regards

--
David Kwok, CISSP
Tel: 612 82315701 ext 1002
Iaxtel/FWD # 17001813482 ext 1002
CISSP, Certified Information System Security Professional

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