[Asterisk-Users] Polycom DTMF after connection not working

2005-12-02 Thread AR Tarzi



On a polycom 600 which is working perfectly otherwise, I am 
unable to use DTMF with IVR or such - not even to dialout of a Sipura setup 
elsewhere. Other phones (analogue connected to ATA) are accepted.
I suspectthe phone is not using rfc2833 but I don't know 
how to specify that it should useit (not available on the http 
configuration).












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[Asterisk-Users] Polycom DTMF

2005-03-24 Thread David Gomillion
Problem:
   Polycom SoundPoint IP phones (running SIP) ceases to send DTMF that
Asterisk can detect and use.  It worked in 1.0.5, but has not worked
since.  This has been verified on SoundPoint IP 300's and SoundPoint IP
600's.

Workaround:
   It used to be that for DTMF to work, I had to set the mode in
sip.conf to inband.  Without making any configuration changes on the
phones, I changed the DTMF mode to rfc2833.  The DTMF is recognized.
No reboot to the phone is necessary, and remember that you can reload
the sip configuration with a reload in Asterisk, meaning your PBX
doesn't have to be restarted either.

Discussion:
   This is probably not the right way to fix this, as Polycom's
configurations, by default, will encode DTMF in the active RTP stream.
There may have been a change in the sip channel's code that is causing
this.  Others on the list have indicated that they worked around the
problem by reverting the version of the sip app to an older version.
   As the new code usually fixes other problems, the solution of
reverting seemed to be counter-productive, so I tried other DTMF
signalling modes.  Thankfully, the stock Polycom configs will work with
Asterisk's sip.conf rfc2833 DTMF mode, at least as of
CVS-v1-0-03/23/05-21:40:48.  When I get more time, or if someone else
has the time, an examination of what changed to cause this could enable
us to fix the heart of the matter.
   Other users on the Asterisk list (see thread *-1.0.7 DTFM = Not
working from 03/23/2005) have reported other UAs not working.
Therefore, there may be a bigger problem with the fundamental issue at
hand: when do we change DTMF in channels, to ensure compliance with
standards, as well as compatibility with older UAs.  

Hope this helps someone.

Sincerely,
David Gomillion

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Polycom DTMF

2005-03-24 Thread Greg Boehnlein
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, David Gomillion wrote:

 Problem:
Polycom SoundPoint IP phones (running SIP) ceases to send DTMF that
 Asterisk can detect and use.  It worked in 1.0.5, but has not worked
 since.  This has been verified on SoundPoint IP 300's and SoundPoint IP
 600's.
 
 Workaround:
It used to be that for DTMF to work, I had to set the mode in
 sip.conf to inband.  Without making any configuration changes on the
 phones, I changed the DTMF mode to rfc2833.  The DTMF is recognized.
 No reboot to the phone is necessary, and remember that you can reload
 the sip configuration with a reload in Asterisk, meaning your PBX
 doesn't have to be restarted either.
 
 Discussion:
This is probably not the right way to fix this, as Polycom's
 configurations, by default, will encode DTMF in the active RTP stream.
 There may have been a change in the sip channel's code that is causing
 this.  Others on the list have indicated that they worked around the
 problem by reverting the version of the sip app to an older version.
As the new code usually fixes other problems, the solution of
 reverting seemed to be counter-productive, so I tried other DTMF
 signalling modes.  Thankfully, the stock Polycom configs will work with
 Asterisk's sip.conf rfc2833 DTMF mode, at least as of
 CVS-v1-0-03/23/05-21:40:48.  When I get more time, or if someone else
 has the time, an examination of what changed to cause this could enable
 us to fix the heart of the matter.
Other users on the Asterisk list (see thread *-1.0.7 DTFM = Not
 working from 03/23/2005) have reported other UAs not working.
 Therefore, there may be a bigger problem with the fundamental issue at
 hand: when do we change DTMF in channels, to ensure compliance with
 standards, as well as compatibility with older UAs.  
 
 Hope this helps someone.
 
 Sincerely,
 David Gomillion

David,
I noticed this in testing the 1.0.7 Release Candidate w/ my 
Polycom phones. I posted the following in 
http://bugs.digium.com/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0003746

03-16-05 16:05
Alright. I updated my Development and Home PBXs to 1.0.7 w/ Slepp's Dundi 
1.0.2_diff-4 patch. Both are running solid. One issue that I noticed is 
that my Polycom SP IP phones had to be changed to use RFC2833 signalling 
instead of the Inband signalling I had been using earlier. I simply 
modified the sip.conf to have dtmfmode=rfc2833. This proved to be a 
slight gotcha for a couple of clients when I updated THEIR boxes. This 
could be just a fluke, and I may be an idiot for having used inband DTMF 
in the first place, but it is something to be concious of. Can anyone 
pinpoint a specific SIP patch that may have been applied where this may 
have been affected? How should this be handled? Should I add it as a new 
bug-note? Or should we just chalk it up and slap a notice in the release 
notes? Should inband signaling be broken in 1.0.7 for Polycom phones? Or 
should it work? I guess this is the question that needs to be asked.. is 
it normal behaviour or a bug? I'm not sure if this is related, but I also 
enabled MMX math routines for Zaptel.

I never got any followup on it before 1.0.7 was dropped.

I'm going to open up a new bug report on this in Mantis and see what we 
can get as far as comments.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Polycom DTMF

2005-03-24 Thread Tom Samplonius
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 09:36:21 -0600, David Gomillion
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Problem:
Polycom SoundPoint IP phones (running SIP) ceases to send DTMF that
 Asterisk can detect and use.  It worked in 1.0.5, but has not worked
 since.  This has been verified on SoundPoint IP 300's and SoundPoint IP
 600's.
 
 Workaround:
It used to be that for DTMF to work, I had to set the mode in
 sip.conf to inband.  Without making any configuration changes on the
 phones, I changed the DTMF mode to rfc2833.  The DTMF is recognized.
 No reboot to the phone is necessary, and remember that you can reload
 the sip configuration with a reload in Asterisk, meaning your PBX
 doesn't have to be restarted either.
 
 Discussion:
This is probably not the right way to fix this, as Polycom's
 configurations, by default, will encode DTMF in the active RTP stream.
...

  No, it is probably the right way to fix it.  RFC2833 is the
preferred way of transporting DTMF.  RFC2833 encodes the DTMF into the
RTP packets as distinct messages.  In fact, RFC2833 is an enhancement
to RTP to carry DTMF.

  Inband signalling also puts the DTMF into the RTP too, but into the
media itself.  That means the DTMF is encoded as sound.  Inband DTMF
should be avoided whenever possible.   On low-bandwidth codes, it is
very easy for the frequency of the sounds to be altered slightly so
the tones are not recognized.  Not to mention all of the issues around
the lenght of the tones, leading to missed digits, or doubled digits.

Tom
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Polycom DTMF

2005-03-24 Thread Joseph
This is problem with the SIP chanell in asterisk; my SPA-3000 inband is
not working either so I stay with 1.0.5

#Joseph

[snip]
   I noticed this in testing the 1.0.7 Release Candidate w/ my 
 Polycom phones. I posted the following in 
 http://bugs.digium.com/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0003746
 
 03-16-05 16:05
 Alright. I updated my Development and Home PBXs to 1.0.7 w/ Slepp's Dundi 
 1.0.2_diff-4 patch. Both are running solid. One issue that I noticed is 
 that my Polycom SP IP phones had to be changed to use RFC2833 signalling 
 instead of the Inband signalling I had been using earlier. I simply 
 modified the sip.conf to have dtmfmode=rfc2833. This proved to be a 
 slight gotcha for a couple of clients when I updated THEIR boxes. This 
 could be just a fluke, and I may be an idiot for having used inband DTMF 
 in the first place, but it is something to be concious of. Can anyone 
 pinpoint a specific SIP patch that may have been applied where this may 
 have been affected? How should this be handled? Should I add it as a new 
 bug-note? Or should we just chalk it up and slap a notice in the release 
 notes? Should inband signaling be broken in 1.0.7 for Polycom phones? Or 
 should it work? I guess this is the question that needs to be asked.. is 
 it normal behaviour or a bug? I'm not sure if this is related, but I also 
 enabled MMX math routines for Zaptel.
 
 I never got any followup on it before 1.0.7 was dropped.
 
 I'm going to open up a new bug report on this in Mantis and see what we 
 can get as far as comments.
 
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