[Asterisk-Users] Re: asterisk+radius

2005-03-18 Thread Kamran Ahmad
hello pongco

if you are talking about disconnecting a call session
at his credit time. then you have to look at
ast_channel-whentohangup

kamran

On Fri, 2005-03-18 at 14:10, Paul P. Pongco wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Im actually deciding if I will use asterisk+radius
for AAA purposes 
or
 use logging directly to mysql and using 
Asterisk+RealTime to store 
SIP
 users to mysql also. 
 Question is, what's the best way to disconnect a
user, if for 
example,
 he runs out of credits. thanks.
 
 On Fri, 2005-03-18 at 02:33, izo wrote:
  set asterisk to log into database directly via
there are mysql ,
  postgresql and odbc drivers
  available. 
  You dont need radius at all,
  for  billing and accounting all u need is a
frontend to database
  
  
  On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:29:34 -0500, Matt wrote:
   Oh this is sad.. I'm familiar with radius.. and
was hoping to be 
able
   to use asterisk with freeradius to be able to do
call accounting 
and
   billing.. so you're telling me this is now not a
good idea?
   Am I better off (for now) parsing the csv report
each month?
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[Asterisk-Users] Re: asterisk+radius

2005-03-17 Thread Kamran Ahmad


i have written app for billing with asterisk. what is
the problem in using radius.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: asterisk+radius

2005-03-17 Thread Matthew Boehm
Kamran Ahmad wrote:
 i have written app for billing with asterisk. what is
 the problem in using radius.

 kamran


Its a pain and redundant. Why run two seperate databases when 1 will do
what you need? There is no native radius support for Asterisk. There is an
addon, (search the wiki) but the last I heard of it, it was unstable.

-Matthew

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: asterisk+radius

2005-03-17 Thread Matt
Oh this is sad.. I'm familiar with radius.. and was hoping to be able
to use asterisk with freeradius to be able to do call accounting and
billing.. so you're telling me this is now not a good idea?
Am I better off (for now) parsing the csv report each month?


On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:00:09 -0600, Matthew Boehm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kamran Ahmad wrote:
  i have written app for billing with asterisk. what is
  the problem in using radius.
 
  kamran
 
 
 Its a pain and redundant. Why run two seperate databases when 1 will do
 what you need? There is no native radius support for Asterisk. There is an
 addon, (search the wiki) but the last I heard of it, it was unstable.
 
 -Matthew
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: asterisk+radius

2005-03-17 Thread Michael K. Rodriguez User
I agree, why run to DBs. On the other hand, I have spoken with several
people asking about radius support for asterisk because they have a  billing
solution that uses data from the radius servers to populate their billing
DB. 


-Michael


On 3/17/05 11:00 AM, Matthew Boehm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kamran Ahmad wrote:
 i have written app for billing with asterisk. what is
 the problem in using radius.
 
 kamran
 
 
 Its a pain and redundant. Why run two seperate databases when 1 will do
 what you need? There is no native radius support for Asterisk. There is an
 addon, (search the wiki) but the last I heard of it, it was unstable.
 
 -Matthew
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: asterisk+radius

2005-03-17 Thread izo
set asterisk to log into database directly via there are mysql ,
postgresql and odbc drivers
available. 
You dont need radius at all,
for  billing and accounting all u need is a frontend to database


On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:29:34 -0500, Matt wrote:
 Oh this is sad.. I'm familiar with radius.. and was hoping to be able
 to use asterisk with freeradius to be able to do call accounting and
 billing.. so you're telling me this is now not a good idea?
 Am I better off (for now) parsing the csv report each month?
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: asterisk+radius

2005-03-17 Thread Matthew Boehm
Matt wrote:
 Oh this is sad.. I'm familiar with radius.. and was hoping to be able
 to use asterisk with freeradius to be able to do call accounting and
 billing.. so you're telling me this is now not a good idea?
 Am I better off (for now) parsing the csv report each month?


 On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:00:09 -0600, Matthew Boehm
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kamran Ahmad wrote:
 i have written app for billing with asterisk. what is
 the problem in using radius.

 kamran


 Its a pain and redundant. Why run two seperate databases when 1
 will do what you need? There is no native radius support for
 Asterisk. There is an addon, (search the wiki) but the last I heard
 of it, it was unstable.

 -Matthew


My only (the only) reason for not using radius is dupilicity. We also run
freeradius with a mysql backend for doing router logins and for ISDN
authorization.

If my Asterisk CDRs are already being written to MySQL, why write them to
Radius which is just going to write them to MySQL?

If you already have some sort of Radius billing app written, then go for it.
I'm not here to stop anyone from using radius. I'm not anti-radius.

I'm just saying that if you already have a database that does what you need,
why bring in another one?

-Matthew

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: asterisk+radius

2005-03-17 Thread leandro_tenorio

Because some of us, are already using radius for other purposes (radius also
has authentication and we could use it with other GWs vendors) as a single
solution, in our case, we already have radius for our GWs and Raidus using
Oracle and I don't want to use direct connection to Oracle at all.

LTenorio


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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: asterisk+radius

Matt wrote:
 Oh this is sad.. I'm familiar with radius.. and was hoping to be able 
 to use asterisk with freeradius to be able to do call accounting and 
 billing.. so you're telling me this is now not a good idea?
 Am I better off (for now) parsing the csv report each month?


 On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:00:09 -0600, Matthew Boehm 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kamran Ahmad wrote:
 i have written app for billing with asterisk. what is the problem in 
 using radius.

 kamran


 Its a pain and redundant. Why run two seperate databases when 1 
 will do what you need? There is no native radius support for 
 Asterisk. There is an addon, (search the wiki) but the last I heard 
 of it, it was unstable.

 -Matthew


My only (the only) reason for not using radius is dupilicity. We also run
freeradius with a mysql backend for doing router logins and for ISDN
authorization.

If my Asterisk CDRs are already being written to MySQL, why write them to
Radius which is just going to write them to MySQL?

If you already have some sort of Radius billing app written, then go for it.
I'm not here to stop anyone from using radius. I'm not anti-radius.

I'm just saying that if you already have a database that does what you need,
why bring in another one?

-Matthew

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: asterisk+radius

2005-03-17 Thread Paul P. Pongco
Hello,

Im actually deciding if I will use asterisk+radius for AAA purposes or
use logging directly to mysql and using  Asterisk+RealTime to store SIP
users to mysql also. 
Question is, what's the best way to disconnect a user, if for example,
he runs out of credits. thanks.

On Fri, 2005-03-18 at 02:33, izo wrote:
 set asterisk to log into database directly via there are mysql ,
 postgresql and odbc drivers
 available. 
 You dont need radius at all,
 for  billing and accounting all u need is a frontend to database
 
 
 On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:29:34 -0500, Matt wrote:
  Oh this is sad.. I'm familiar with radius.. and was hoping to be able
  to use asterisk with freeradius to be able to do call accounting and
  billing.. so you're telling me this is now not a good idea?
  Am I better off (for now) parsing the csv report each month?
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: asterisk+radius

2005-03-17 Thread Paul P. Pongco
oops never mind, ill just read on astcc

On Fri, 2005-03-18 at 14:10, Paul P. Pongco wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Im actually deciding if I will use asterisk+radius for AAA purposes or
 use logging directly to mysql and using  Asterisk+RealTime to store SIP
 users to mysql also. 
 Question is, what's the best way to disconnect a user, if for example,
 he runs out of credits. thanks.
 
 On Fri, 2005-03-18 at 02:33, izo wrote:
  set asterisk to log into database directly via there are mysql ,
  postgresql and odbc drivers
  available. 
  You dont need radius at all,
  for  billing and accounting all u need is a frontend to database
  
  
  On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:29:34 -0500, Matt wrote:
   Oh this is sad.. I'm familiar with radius.. and was hoping to be able
   to use asterisk with freeradius to be able to do call accounting and
   billing.. so you're telling me this is now not a good idea?
   Am I better off (for now) parsing the csv report each month?
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: * with RADIUS

2003-12-19 Thread Greg Boehnlein
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Jeremy McNamara wrote:

 Chandra wrote:
 
 Explain why you think you really need RADIUS Accounting?   Why not talk 
 right to the database itself and save yourself that unneeded 
 complication and points of failure.

Jerey,
ISP's integrating Asterisk could utilize their existing radius 
billing packages to easily bill customers for their usage. I, personally, 
would love this feature, and Radius is widely deployed and stable.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: * with RADIUS

2003-12-19 Thread Greg Boehnlein
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Explain why you think you really need RADIUS Accounting?   
  Why not talk 
  right to the database itself and save yourself that unneeded 
  complication and points of failure.
  
 
 I know this has come up before, and in a perfect world, where * was the
 primary app, you don't need RADIUS.  In enterprise environments where
 RADIUS accounting is already embedded into other aspects of the
 workflow, it would be beneficial.
 
 Understand* boxes are in real live actual production now.  Once you
 leave the vacuum of the lab, there are going to be things like this that
 come up.  And many will be for good reasons.  Others will be for crappy,
 legacy reasons.  Both scenarios are valid in the real world.

I wrote a small application that measures traffic totals for Websites, 
Switch ports virtually anything else that can be accessed via SNMP. That 
application then takes the totals and sends them as a Radius Accounting 
packets to our Radius Servers, which store the data in a SQL backend. Our 
billing system (Platypus) can then generate bills for customers based on 
usage.. in this case Gigabytes of Data transferred. For our dial-up 
customers is based on a certain block of hours with minutes charged at a 
specific rate over the limit. It is a system that makes it trivial to 
assign a value to some data point and create an itemized invoice for it.

I am in the process of deploying an Asterisk server to provide voice 
services to about 20 phones. It would be nice to be able to use our 
existing billing system to simply charge people for the minutes they have 
used and/or use the block pricing models that we already have in place 
(I.E. First 1000 minutes free, .03 each additional) without having to use 
another billing system and import/export data.

For me, having CDR data delivered as a Radius accounting packet would save 
me tons of development time, and many hours of additional work 
implementing a paralell billing system for the express purpose of accurate 
billing.

So.. I'll be happy to help out in the effort, but my C coding skills are 
rustier than hell, and more than likely I'll break many things along the 
way. ;)

On the other hand, if someone has a simple, open-source, SQL based 
billing, invoicing, CDR management program, I am all ears! If I can spend 
an hour or two setting up something that works well, with little effort, 
it would buy me lots of time.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: * with RADIUS

2003-12-19 Thread Greg Boehnlein
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Andrew Thompson wrote:

  Understand* boxes are in real live actual production now.  Once you
  leave the vacuum of the lab, there are going to be things like this that
  come up.  And many will be for good reasons.  Others will be for
  crappy, legacy reasons.  Both scenarios are valid in the real world.
 
 
 Can someone give me an idea exactly what things are intended to be tested
 via RADIUS, or some other AAA system?
 
 Are we talking about building SIP/IAX/H323 entries from RADIUS?
 
 At this point, I'm not really worried about call detail, as that's something
 that * already can dump to a database, it can be adapted to dump back to any
 service. (Unless this is really the primary objective of the whole RADIUS
 discussion.)

For me, it is. Being able to take CDR data (Called Number, Port, Start 
Time, Stop Time, Extension etc...) and dump them to a Radius server means 
I don't have to implement a seperate billing program to charge for 
usage!

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: * with RADIUS

2003-12-19 Thread Greg Boehnlein
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Andrew Thompson wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: Doug Shubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 11:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: * with RADIUS
 
 
  Hello,
  We use RADIUS with a MySQL backend database server for dialup
  authentication.
  Because our accounting system is XML based, I would prefer to use one AAA
  (i.e RADIUS)
  server to provision and validate our VoIP UA's. LDAP is another AAA
 solution
  we are looking at using.
  Of course a direct SQL connection from * would still work with the
 backend.
  Doug
 
 So, you would like to build at least the extension list portion of a
 Dialplan from RADIUS on boot and as it changes, correct?
 
 You would expect SIP/H323/IAX/zap-destinations to be created(or activated)
 from RADIUS as well, right?

That is interesting. I've been approaching it from the Radius ACCOUNTING 
perspective, not neccessarily the Authentication perspective, but it does 
open up some interesting possibilities that I haven't fully wrapped my 
brain around yet. Let me think on it, drink a few beers, play with my * 
server and get back to you.

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[Asterisk-Users] Re: * with RADIUS

2003-12-11 Thread Chandra

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 hi,

 i have been looking for implementations of asterisk with RADIUS which
would
 ease for accounting purposes. where can i find more information on this?

 help.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: * with RADIUS

2003-12-11 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Chandra wrote:

hi,

i have been looking for implementations of asterisk with RADIUS which
   

would
 

ease for accounting purposes. where can i find more information on this?

help.

cm

   



Explain why you think you really need RADIUS Accounting?   Why not talk 
right to the database itself and save yourself that unneeded 
complication and points of failure.



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: * with RADIUS

2003-12-11 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
 Explain why you think you really need RADIUS Accounting?   Why not talk
 right to the database itself and save yourself that unneeded
 complication and points of failure.

For the exact same reasons RADIUS exists in the first place?  Consistency?  
The ability to change authentication backends without having to touch *?  
Passing off authentication to a third party?

I wonder if Brian is going to make a unixodbc_radius...  :-)

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: * with RADIUS

2003-12-11 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:

Explain why you think you really need RADIUS Accounting?   Why not talk
right to the database itself and save yourself that unneeded
complication and points of failure.
   

For the exact same reasons RADIUS exists in the first place?



RADIUS was created to authenticate Dialup users


 Consistency?  



You think Vendor Specific Attributes are consistent?


The ability to change authentication backends without having to touch *?  
 



You can do this already.


Passing off authentication to a third party?
 



You can do this already.


I wonder if Brian is going to make a unixodbc_radius...  :-)
 



I'll let Brian squeak up for himself on this issue, but I'm sure you 
won't like his response.



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: * with RADIUS

2003-12-11 Thread Gary
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:30:27 -0500, Jeremy McNamara wrote:

Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:

The ability to change authentication backends without having to touch *?  
  

You can do this already.

Passing off authentication to a third party?
  

You can do this already.



Ah, pardon my ignorance Jeremy, could you please explain how to do
these 2 points ??

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: * with RADIUS

2003-12-11 Thread daryl
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 Jeremy McNamara
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[...]
 
 Explain why you think you really need RADIUS Accounting?   
 Why not talk 
 right to the database itself and save yourself that unneeded 
 complication and points of failure.
 

I know this has come up before, and in a perfect world, where * was the
primary app, you don't need RADIUS.  In enterprise environments where
RADIUS accounting is already embedded into other aspects of the
workflow, it would be beneficial.

Understand* boxes are in real live actual production now.  Once you
leave the vacuum of the lab, there are going to be things like this that
come up.  And many will be for good reasons.  Others will be for crappy,
legacy reasons.  Both scenarios are valid in the real world.

Daryl G. Jurbala
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: * with RADIUS

2003-12-11 Thread Andrew Thompson
snip
 I know this has come up before, and in a perfect world, where * was the
 primary app, you don't need RADIUS.  In enterprise environments where
 RADIUS accounting is already embedded into other aspects of the
 workflow, it would be beneficial.

 Understand* boxes are in real live actual production now.  Once you
 leave the vacuum of the lab, there are going to be things like this that
 come up.  And many will be for good reasons.  Others will be for
 crappy, legacy reasons.  Both scenarios are valid in the real world.


Can someone give me an idea exactly what things are intended to be tested
via RADIUS, or some other AAA system?

Are we talking about building SIP/IAX/H323 entries from RADIUS?

At this point, I'm not really worried about call detail, as that's something
that * already can dump to a database, it can be adapted to dump back to any
service. (Unless this is really the primary objective of the whole RADIUS
discussion.)

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: * with RADIUS

2003-12-11 Thread Doug Shubert
Hello,
We use RADIUS with a MySQL backend database server for dialup
authentication.
Because our accounting system is XML based, I would prefer to use one AAA
(i.e RADIUS)
server to provision and validate our VoIP UA's. LDAP is another AAA solution
we are looking at using.
Of course a direct SQL connection from * would still work with the backend.
Doug

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 [...]
 
  Explain why you think you really need RADIUS Accounting?
  Why not talk
  right to the database itself and save yourself that unneeded
  complication and points of failure.
 

 I know this has come up before, and in a perfect world, where * was the
 primary app, you don't need RADIUS.  In enterprise environments where
 RADIUS accounting is already embedded into other aspects of the
 workflow, it would be beneficial.

 Understand* boxes are in real live actual production now.  Once you
 leave the vacuum of the lab, there are going to be things like this that
 come up.  And many will be for good reasons.  Others will be for crappy,
 legacy reasons.  Both scenarios are valid in the real world.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: * with RADIUS

2003-12-11 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
(dammit, sent to jeremy directly last time, sorry)

 For the exact same reasons RADIUS exists in the first place?
 RADIUS was created to authenticate Dialup users

a common authentication and accounting system for dialup users, yes.  It's 
grown into a common auth/acct system for user-based systems now.

   Consistency?
 You think Vendor Specific Attributes are consistent?

it's no different than DHCP's vendor-specific shit...  it's a way to 
arbitrarily expand the use of the system without breaking the protocol 
entirely.  It's say this is a moot point.

 The ability to change authentication backends without having to touch *?
 You can do this already.

With unixodbc, true.  But you're still not able to tie in neatly with any 
existing AAA systems.

 Passing off authentication to a third party?
 You can do this already.

How is this done cleanly?

 I wonder if Brian is going to make a unixodbc_radius...  :-)
 I'll let Brian squeak up for himself on this issue, but I'm sure you
 won't like his response.

That's fine, that's the beauty of open source.  :-)

Regards,
Andrew
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: * with RADIUS

2003-12-11 Thread Andrew Thompson
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: * with RADIUS


 Hello,
 We use RADIUS with a MySQL backend database server for dialup
 authentication.
 Because our accounting system is XML based, I would prefer to use one AAA
 (i.e RADIUS)
 server to provision and validate our VoIP UA's. LDAP is another AAA
solution
 we are looking at using.
 Of course a direct SQL connection from * would still work with the
backend.
 Doug

So, you would like to build at least the extension list portion of a
Dialplan from RADIUS on boot and as it changes, correct?

You would expect SIP/H323/IAX/zap-destinations to be created(or activated)
from RADIUS as well, right?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: * with RADIUS

2003-12-11 Thread Andrew Thompson
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From: Doug Shubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: * with RADIUS


 Hello,
 We use RADIUS with a MySQL backend database server for dialup
 authentication.
 Because our accounting system is XML based, I would prefer to use one AAA
 (i.e RADIUS)
 server to provision and validate our VoIP UA's. LDAP is another AAA
solution
 we are looking at using.
 Of course a direct SQL connection from * would still work with the
backend.
 Doug

So, you would like to build at least the extension list portion of a
Dialplan from RADIUS on boot and as it changes, correct?

You would expect SIP/H323/IAX/zap-destinations to be created(or activated)
from RADIUS as well, right?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: * with RADIUS

2003-12-11 Thread James Sharp
 Can someone give me an idea exactly what things are intended to be tested
 via RADIUS, or some other AAA system?

 Are we talking about building SIP/IAX/H323 entries from RADIUS?


This is where the PAM system I developed for * comes into play.  I've got
most of it working at the moment, but I'm having trouble figuring out how
to actually pass the authentication information back to the requesting
channel driver.  It seems that the structs  linked lists that the drivers
use to authenticate are only built on a restart/reload.  I'm not sure how
to handle this part of it dynamically.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: * with RADIUS

2003-12-11 Thread Doug Shubert
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 From: Doug Shubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 11:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: * with RADIUS

  Hello,
  We use RADIUS with a MySQL backend database server for dialup
  authentication.
  Because our accounting system is XML based, I would prefer to use one AAA
  (i.e RADIUS)
  server to provision and validate our VoIP UA's. LDAP is another AAA
 solution
  we are looking at using.
  Of course a direct SQL connection from * would still work with the
 backend.
  Doug

 So, you would like to build at least the extension list portion of a
 Dialplan from RADIUS on boot and as it changes, correct?


we use a TPTP server for boot configs
our XML server can provision the account profile for each users config file

RADIUS is a lightweight AAA server that offers basic protocol security and fast

username/password authentication.

A better solution would be a direct port connection to the SQL server from *.
The only limitation I see is the lack of security between * and SQL servers
using a port connection.
If * and SQL are on the same server then this would minimize security concerns.


 You would expect SIP/H323/IAX/zap-destinations to be created(or activated)
 from RADIUS as well, right?


yes.. mainly SIP UA's like 7960/7940 IP phones and ATA 186/188 just to list a
few.
H.323 Gatekeeper/gateways could take advantage of the RADIUS AAA.



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