[Asterisk-Users] Re: FXO cards
On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, at 01:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DIalogic 4 and 12 port cards are expensive. The 12 port prohibitively so, so I think I would be better off getting 2 of the 4 port cards. I have found them for 900$ apiece on ebay. That compairs as: Case 1 Channel bank Asterisk box: 500$ (provably less than this, as it is a minimal machine) T100P card: 500$ Channel Bank 600$ (actually, from what I can find, provably more like 1000$ before I am done) Phones: I am going to go with the Mitel Networks 5055, they are about 400$ apiece. Total: 1600$ for the setup (to 2000$) + 2000K for 5 phones. Case 2: FXO cards Asterisk box 500$ Dialogic 4 port card 900$ Phones: same as the above Total 1400$ plus phones, 2K$ for 5 phones. Don't forget that you will then have to purchase the DS0 licenses too. err, whats a DS0 license? Michael Rowley MD FP ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: FXO cards
On Wed, 2003-12-10 at 08:18, Michael Rowley wrote: On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, at 01:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DIalogic 4 and 12 port cards are expensive. The 12 port prohibitively so, so I think I would be better off getting 2 of the 4 port cards. I have found them for 900$ apiece on ebay. That compairs as: Case 1 Channel bank Asterisk box: 500$ (provably less than this, as it is a minimal machine) T100P card: 500$ Channel Bank 600$ (actually, from what I can find, provably more like 1000$ before I am done) Phones: I am going to go with the Mitel Networks 5055, they are about 400$ apiece. Total: 1600$ for the setup (to 2000$) + 2000K for 5 phones. Case 2: FXO cards Asterisk box 500$ Dialogic 4 port card 900$ Phones: same as the above Total 1400$ plus phones, 2K$ for 5 phones. Don't forget that you will then have to purchase the DS0 licenses too. err, whats a DS0 license? Because the drivers for the Dialogic cards are not open source, you have to pay Digium for each phone line that will be in use. I think the cost was $15, but I may be wrong. So for your 6 line install, you are looking at the cost of the cards plus the cost of the license at $90 or so. None of us are pushing you to a channel bank because we will make money on this. We are trying to help you out. If you go the channel bank route, replacement parts are easier to come by and expansion is much easier. It is a lot easier to justify an expenditure that has growth ability at essentially the same cost as an option that has less. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Re: FXO cards
Steven, I know how to RTFM. I have found no reference yet to how many x100P cards I can run in one box. Where did you find that reference? I have looked at the manual avaliable from *.org, downloaded the pdf of the x100p card tech info, it doesn't say it anywhere. 'course, I'm just sad as it would be a much cheaper way to go. I was afraid that there would be a problem with multiple cards in one box. I can get the four port Dialogic card for about 900$, or the 12 for 2K. But then were are the same price, or just a bit more than a channel bank and a t100p card. So, the docs say no more than 2 x100p cards sane, has anyone done it? put 5 or 6 in one box? Michael. On Tuesday, December 9, 2003, at 05:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 15:18, Michael Rowley wrote: Hey guys, has anyone put 6 of the wildcat X100P cards in one machine? I am thinking about putting 6 in one machine, what is everyone elses experience Read the docs. 2 card maximum sane install. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael Rowley MD FP ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: FXO cards
- Original Message - From: Michael Rowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, the docs say no more than 2 x100p cards sane, has anyone done it? put 5 or 6 in one box? I'm using 4 of them, it works. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: FXO cards
Each card requires it's own IRQ not shared with any other device. That right there limits the number of cards you can put in a box. On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 20:37, Michael Rowley wrote: Steven, I know how to RTFM. I have found no reference yet to how many x100P cards I can run in one box. Where did you find that reference? I have looked at the manual avaliable from *.org, downloaded the pdf of the x100p card tech info, it doesn't say it anywhere. 'course, I'm just sad as it would be a much cheaper way to go. I was afraid that there would be a problem with multiple cards in one box. I can get the four port Dialogic card for about 900$, or the 12 for 2K. But then were are the same price, or just a bit more than a channel bank and a t100p card. So, the docs say no more than 2 x100p cards sane, has anyone done it? put 5 or 6 in one box? Michael. On Tuesday, December 9, 2003, at 05:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 15:18, Michael Rowley wrote: Hey guys, has anyone put 6 of the wildcat X100P cards in one machine? I am thinking about putting 6 in one machine, what is everyone elses experience Read the docs. 2 card maximum sane install. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael Rowley MD FP ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Go to http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation and look at the Unofficial Links section. This section has links to a wide variety of 3rd party Asterisk related pages. My page is the Asterisk Resource Pages. BTEL Consulting 504-899-1387 or 850-484-4545 or 877-677-9643 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: FXO cards
Maybe even just 4 cards. I would like to know where it states that as well. I have been reading a lot and thought I was ok setting up my first system with 4 cards. Thanks, Dustin -Original Message- From: Michael Rowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Re: FXO cards Steven, I know how to RTFM. I have found no reference yet to how many x100P cards I can run in one box. Where did you find that reference? I have looked at the manual avaliable from *.org, downloaded the pdf of the x100p card tech info, it doesn't say it anywhere. 'course, I'm just sad as it would be a much cheaper way to go. I was afraid that there would be a problem with multiple cards in one box. I can get the four port Dialogic card for about 900$, or the 12 for 2K. But then were are the same price, or just a bit more than a channel bank and a t100p card. So, the docs say no more than 2 x100p cards sane, has anyone done it? put 5 or 6 in one box? Michael. On Tuesday, December 9, 2003, at 05:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 15:18, Michael Rowley wrote: Hey guys, has anyone put 6 of the wildcat X100P cards in one machine? I am thinking about putting 6 in one machine, what is everyone elses experience Read the docs. 2 card maximum sane install. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael Rowley MD FP ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: FXO cards
I know how to RTFM. I have found no reference yet to how many x100P cards I can run in one box. Where did you find that reference? I have looked at the manual avaliable from *.org, downloaded the pdf of the x100p card tech info, it doesn't say it anywhere. You won't find it published anywhere. There has been some previous discussion on this list relative to the topic, but I've not heard anyone truly conduct any scientific evaluation to quantify the real limits. Several people have made comments that each x100p requires a dedicated IRQ as well. That's not true either. I'm running two x100p cards in production and one of those cards is sharing the IRQ with three/four other devices and one of those devices happens to be the asterisk ethernet port. The quality of the two lines are identical (and good) once the echo problems were addressed last month. One of the key issues seems to be that each x100p card must be able to properly handle approx 1,000 interrupts per second. If devices with low/no interrupt volume are combined with an x100p, there is not likely to be an issue. (That really does assume you know for a fact that other devices actually use the interrupts... many devices are tied to interrupts but don't actually use/generate them.) The issue that I have not heard anyone try to quantify is more likely a combination of processor speed, bus speed, applications running, etc, and how much processing time is left to handle one/two/three/four times 1,000 interrupts / second without degrading/impacting other system functions and apps. (Don't think I'd care to try or publish that test.) So, the bottom line to how many x100p's can one have in a system is it depends, and my system loads/applications are not likely to be the same as your's, or the next guy on the list. Therefore, no one is going to be able to answer your question with any degree of accuracy. I did find a reference in the archives (would guess from about a year ago) where someone described a procedure to analyze the interrupt counts every ten seconds. It was kind of handy for eliminating potential issues, etc. (I don't have the reference any more.) Rich ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
