Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: G729 and Meetme

2006-03-04 Thread Matt Riddell [NZ]
Martin Joseph wrote:
 
 On Mar 2, 2006, at 3:46 PM, Wai Wu wrote:
 
 You can really mix G729 encoded frames. So I would guess that licenses
 are  not needed for non-G279 devices. BTW, there is a difference
 conference app (forgot the name) that only mixes the two parties that
 have the loudest volumn. It sounds more efficent to me this way. There
 is no reason to listen to three or more party talking at the same time
 anyway.

 I wish this was a joke. Sick and wrong is all I can say.

:D

Nah, iaxclient.sf.net has app_conference which does exactly that :)

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: G729 and Meetme

2006-03-03 Thread Wai Wu
Sorry. Miss type 'can'. I meant 'cannot'

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On Mar 2, 2006, at 3:46 PM, Wai Wu wrote:

 You can really mix G729 encoded frames. So I would guess that licenses 
 are  not needed for non-G279 devices. BTW, there is a difference 
 conference app (forgot the name) that only mixes the two parties that 
 have the loudest volumn. It sounds more efficent to me this way. There 
 is no reason to listen to three or more party talking at the same time 
 anyway.

I wish this was a joke. Sick and wrong is all I can say.


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[Asterisk-Users] Re: G729 and Meetme

2006-03-02 Thread Bill Michaelson

I suppose that in order to accomplish conferencing, Asterisk must produce a 
broadcast audio stream (waveform) which is a numerically combined derivative of 
all of the input audio streams.  In order to do so, it almost cetainly will 
work with uncompressed data.  Therefore, encoding such as G.729 is unsuitable 
for this purpose.  It must be decoded first.

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I have noticed that when I try to connect multiple G729 VoIP devices into a 
MeetMe conference that I can only add up to the number of G729 licenses I have. 
 Now I would think that because all the devices are G729, this wouldn't be the 
case and the only license that would ever be used would be if a non G729 device 
or Zap channel was a part of the Meetme conference.  This is apparently note 
the case.  Can anyone explain to me exactly why this is.  I don't really mind 
buying more licenses if I need to but I can't seem to wrap my head around where 
the Codec translation that is requiring the license is taking place.

Regards,

Raymond McKay


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: G729 and Meetme

2006-03-02 Thread Wai Wu
You can really mix G729 encoded frames. So I would guess that licenses are  not 
needed for non-G279 devices. BTW, there is a difference conference app (forgot 
the name) that only mixes the two parties that have the loudest volumn. It 
sounds more efficent to me this way. There is no reason to listen to three or 
more party talking at the same time anyway.

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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Re: G729 and Meetme


I suppose that in order to accomplish conferencing, Asterisk must produce a 
broadcast audio stream (waveform) which is a numerically combined derivative of 
all of the input audio streams.  In order to do so, it almost cetainly will 
work with uncompressed data.  Therefore, encoding such as G.729 is unsuitable 
for this purpose.  It must be decoded first.

-

I have noticed that when I try to connect multiple G729 VoIP devices into a 
MeetMe conference that I can only add up to the number of G729 licenses I have. 
 Now I would think that because all the devices are G729, this wouldn't be the 
case and the only license that would ever be used would be if a non G729 device 
or Zap channel was a part of the Meetme conference.  This is apparently note 
the case.  Can anyone explain to me exactly why this is.  I don't really mind 
buying more licenses if I need to but I can't seem to wrap my head around where 
the Codec translation that is requiring the license is taking place.

Regards,

Raymond McKay


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: G729 and Meetme

2006-03-02 Thread Martin Joseph


On Mar 2, 2006, at 3:46 PM, Wai Wu wrote:

You can really mix G729 encoded frames. So I would guess that licenses 
are  not needed for non-G279 devices. BTW, there is a difference 
conference app (forgot the name) that only mixes the two parties that 
have the loudest volumn. It sounds more efficent to me this way. There 
is no reason to listen to three or more party talking at the same time 
anyway.



I wish this was a joke. Sick and wrong is all I can say.


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