[Asterisk-Users] Re: Telemarketer Torture

2003-12-19 Thread Uwe Klein
Cees de Groot schrieb:
 
 Andrew Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 While an exceptionally devious concept, I don't think it'd work out like you
 planned. Wouldn't that mean you'd have to dial out the 900 number yourself,
 meaning You would be charged for the 900 call.
 
 At least with ISDN, you can deflect the call AFAIK. Dunnow how this
 works out billing-wise, though, never used it.

with german ISDN providers the forwarded part of the connection is
charged to your account. The as if you would forward it yourself.
The only difference ist used lines.

stiffen up your wellliked marketeer with a chrismas-tree!
uwe
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Telemarketer Torture

2003-12-18 Thread Greg Boehnlein
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Cees de Groot wrote:

 Chris Albertson  [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 My brother has the BEST solution for sales people.  He makes
 an appointment with them to come out and gives an address across the
 street.  It really wastes a real estate salesman or house painter's
 time to drive out to a dead end.  Keeps em off the phone too.
 
 I once got Reader's Digest direct mail department off my back by sending
 them a formal offer to check their mail service - every received mail
 piece would be reported by me (including a 'quality report' - folded,
 cracked, ...) and I would invoice only some 50 dollars per mail piece
 for that. Sending mail would constitute acceptance of the offer - never
 got a single piece of mail from them again (a pity, I could've been
 rich ;-)).
 
 Wonder whether one could build up a similar construction (the paper one
 was legally quite watertight, of course) for telemarketeers...

Why not re-direct them with their ANI to a 900 number that you own? 
Announce that they have reached a pay per minute service, and that the 
first 2 minutes are free of charge, but that subsequent minutes would be 
charged  at a rate of $20 / minute?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Telemarketer Torture

2003-12-18 Thread Andrew Thompson
- Original Message -
From: Greg Boehnlein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Telemarketer Torture


 On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Cees de Groot wrote:

  Chris Albertson  [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
  My brother has the BEST solution for sales people.  He makes
  an appointment with them to come out and gives an address across the
  street.  It really wastes a real estate salesman or house painter's
  time to drive out to a dead end.  Keeps em off the phone too.
  
  I once got Reader's Digest direct mail department off my back by sending
  them a formal offer to check their mail service - every received mail
  piece would be reported by me (including a 'quality report' - folded,
  cracked, ...) and I would invoice only some 50 dollars per mail piece
  for that. Sending mail would constitute acceptance of the offer - never
  got a single piece of mail from them again (a pity, I could've been
  rich ;-)).
 
  Wonder whether one could build up a similar construction (the paper one
  was legally quite watertight, of course) for telemarketeers...

 Why not re-direct them with their ANI to a 900 number that you own?
 Announce that they have reached a pay per minute service, and that the
 first 2 minutes are free of charge, but that subsequent minutes would be
 charged  at a rate of $20 / minute?


While an exceptionally devious concept, I don't think it'd work out like you
planned. Wouldn't that mean you'd have to dial out the 900 number yourself,
meaning You would be charged for the 900 call.

Instead, I'd have someone record a similar message states they will be
required to pay to complete the telephone call, but that the charges may be
waived.

Or you could just give them the Number has Changed to message with your
previously mentioned 900 number.

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restful it is to watch the cursor blink. Close your eyes. The opinions
stated above are yours. You cannot imagine why you ever felt otherwise.



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[Asterisk-Users] Re: Telemarketer Torture

2003-12-18 Thread Cees de Groot
Andrew Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
While an exceptionally devious concept, I don't think it'd work out like you
planned. Wouldn't that mean you'd have to dial out the 900 number yourself,
meaning You would be charged for the 900 call.

At least with ISDN, you can deflect the call AFAIK. Dunnow how this
works out billing-wise, though, never used it. 

-- 
Cees de Groot   http://www.tric.nl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tric, the new way   helpdesk/ticketing software, VoIP/CTI, 
web applications, custom development

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[Asterisk-Users] Re: Telemarketer Torture

2003-12-11 Thread Steve Murphy
Hello--

For all those who inquired as to the gsm files for the sound prompts for
the telemarketing Torture menus I put on the wiki, and also all those 
who had too much dignity to request them, I humbly submit that I have 
added a link to my version of the sound prompts to the wiki page, and 
also include it here:

http://wyoming.e-tools.com/TeleTorturePrompts.tar.gz

Size is just under 1 meg.

Please, it's my personal site, so don't publish this anywhere but where
it is...  It's not that high-bandwidth a connection to the internet!

murf


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[Asterisk-Users] Re: Telemarketer Torture

2003-12-10 Thread Cees de Groot
Chris Albertson  [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
My brother has the BEST solution for sales people.  He makes
an appointment with them to come out and gives an address across the
street.  It really wastes a real estate salesman or house painter's
time to drive out to a dead end.  Keeps em off the phone too.

I once got Reader's Digest direct mail department off my back by sending
them a formal offer to check their mail service - every received mail
piece would be reported by me (including a 'quality report' - folded,
cracked, ...) and I would invoice only some 50 dollars per mail piece
for that. Sending mail would constitute acceptance of the offer - never
got a single piece of mail from them again (a pity, I could've been
rich ;-)).

Wonder whether one could build up a similar construction (the paper one
was legally quite watertight, of course) for telemarketeers...

-- 
Cees de Groot   http://www.tric.nl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tric, the new way   helpdesk/ticketing software, VoIP/CTI, 
web applications, custom development

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