[Asterisk-Users] Regulatory Ruling about Caller-ID

2006-03-29 Thread Matt
Hi,
Did anyone hear about a recent ruling which makes it illegal to have
caller-id set to anything except what is on the account of the user?

IE... If your name is Joe Smith you can't have Mary Smith set as
the caller-id name, unless mary smith is also on your account.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Regulatory Ruling about Caller-ID

2006-03-29 Thread Lacy Moore - Aspendora
DId you hear about the law that says you can't drive over the posted speed? How about the one about junk faxes, or the one about spam?

Seriously, I'd like to see how this will be enforced.

While I am sure this is to combat telemarketers faking their caller ID, I'm sure they already have some legal loophole to get through. Kinda like the Do Not Call List that doesn't work, fortunately Asterisk handles that very well.

As you can tell, I'm not too keen on new laws, when the old ones don't seem to work either.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Regulatory Ruling about Caller-ID

2006-03-29 Thread Justin Tunney

On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 14:19:41 -0500, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Did anyone hear about a recent ruling which makes it illegal to have
caller-id set to anything except what is on the account of the user?


Where did you hear this?  Can you give a link?  Looks like I'm going to  
jail, tee hee.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Regulatory Ruling about Caller-ID

2006-03-29 Thread Peter Bowyer
On 29/03/06, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 Did anyone hear about a recent ruling which makes it illegal to have
 caller-id set to anything except what is on the account of the user?

A ruling in what jurisdiction?

Peter

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Regulatory Ruling about Caller-ID

2006-03-29 Thread Matt
I was told it was more along the lines of preventing stalking, but I'm
sure telemarketers fit in there :)

IE... Mary Smith seperates from Joe Smith... Joe Smith gets phone
service and wants his CID to read 'Jane Smith', who is Mary's sister,
so that Mary will answer when Joe calls.

On 3/29/06, Lacy Moore - Aspendora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 DId you hear about the law that says you can't drive over the posted speed?
 How about the one about junk faxes, or the one about spam?

 Seriously, I'd like to see how this will be enforced.

 While I am sure this is to combat telemarketers faking their caller ID, I'm
 sure they already have some legal loophole to get through.  Kinda like the
 Do Not Call List that doesn't work, fortunately Asterisk handles that very
 well.

 As you can tell, I'm not too keen on new laws, when the old ones don't seem
 to work either.

 On 3/29/06, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Did anyone hear about a recent ruling which makes it illegal to have
 caller-id set to anything except what is on the account of the user?

 IE... If your name is Joe Smith you can't have Mary Smith set as
 the caller-id name, unless mary smith is also on your account.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Regulatory Ruling about Caller-ID

2006-03-29 Thread Justin Tunney

On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 14:54:19 -0500, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

IE... Mary Smith seperates from Joe Smith... Joe Smith gets phone
service and wants his CID to read 'Jane Smith', who is Mary's sister,
so that Mary will answer when Joe calls.



I was always under the impression that the telcos stored the strings  
associated with numbers in their own databases (or in your own cell  
phone), thereby only allowing you to make your name appear to be Jane  
Smith if you spoof your caller id to be the registered number of someone  
whose name is actually Jane Smith.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Regulatory Ruling about Caller-ID

2006-03-29 Thread Matt
Right, but SOMEONE has to have that number linked to 'Jane Smith'
somewhere.  I do not have any sections or numbers or dockets to quote.
 What I was told was that Verizon recently had regulation brought down
on them that prohibits them from setting the caller-id on a number to
something or someone NOT on the account.

On 3/29/06, Justin Tunney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 14:54:19 -0500, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  IE... Mary Smith seperates from Joe Smith... Joe Smith gets phone
  service and wants his CID to read 'Jane Smith', who is Mary's sister,
  so that Mary will answer when Joe calls.
 

 I was always under the impression that the telcos stored the strings
 associated with numbers in their own databases (or in your own cell
 phone), thereby only allowing you to make your name appear to be Jane
 Smith if you spoof your caller id to be the registered number of someone
 whose name is actually Jane Smith.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Regulatory Ruling about Caller-ID

2006-03-29 Thread C F
Nah, I don't think so, but not heard of it doesn't mean it doesnt
exist, so I'll just wait and see if anyone comes up with some more
info. Meanwhile I will keep spoofing as needed. :)

On 3/29/06, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 Did anyone hear about a recent ruling which makes it illegal to have
 caller-id set to anything except what is on the account of the user?

 IE... If your name is Joe Smith you can't have Mary Smith set as
 the caller-id name, unless mary smith is also on your account.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Regulatory Ruling about Caller-ID

2006-03-29 Thread trixter aka Bret McDanel
 On 3/29/06, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
  Did anyone hear about a recent ruling which makes it illegal to have
  caller-id set to anything except what is on the account of the user?
 
  IE... If your name is Joe Smith you can't have Mary Smith set as
  the caller-id name, unless mary smith is also on your account.
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ruling by whom and in what jurisdiction?  AFAIK there is no global
governing body for telecom, but then I dont pay enough attention so
there might be :)


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Regulatory Ruling about Caller-ID

2006-03-29 Thread Rich Adamson
If there was some type of ruling, its most likely to be a state public 
service commission (different names in different states), and not with 
the Fed's, etc.




Right, but SOMEONE has to have that number linked to 'Jane Smith'
somewhere.  I do not have any sections or numbers or dockets to quote.
 What I was told was that Verizon recently had regulation brought down
on them that prohibits them from setting the caller-id on a number to
something or someone NOT on the account.

On 3/29/06, Justin Tunney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 14:54:19 -0500, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

IE... Mary Smith seperates from Joe Smith... Joe Smith gets phone
service and wants his CID to read 'Jane Smith', who is Mary's sister,
so that Mary will answer when Joe calls.


I was always under the impression that the telcos stored the strings
associated with numbers in their own databases (or in your own cell
phone), thereby only allowing you to make your name appear to be Jane
Smith if you spoof your caller id to be the registered number of someone
whose name is actually Jane Smith.


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