RE: [Asterisk-Users] SMTP MTA suggestions.

2004-10-19 Thread Andreas Sikkema
Fabian Garcia wrote:

 I understand asterisk invokes sendmail in order to send email
 notifications of messages left. Is there another application less
 complicated than Sendmail, I already got mail servers else where
 and they are the ones I want to use.   

All major MTAs emulate the sendmail interface. So you can 
probably use your favourite MTA i.s.o. sendmail.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SMTP MTA suggestions.

2004-10-19 Thread james
On Mon, 2004-10-18 at 21:11, Fabian Garcia wrote:
  
 
 I understand asterisk invokes sendmail in order to send email
 notifications of messages left. Is there another application less
 complicated than Sendmail, I already got mail servers else where and
 they are the ones I want to use. 
 
  
 
 Any light in this matter will be appreciated.

There are several replacements, but sendmail isn't any harder to config.
You usually only need to change 3 lines in the sendmail config.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] SMTP MTA suggestions.

2004-10-19 Thread Low, Adam
I usually use Qmail www.qmail.org, in my humble opinion it is more straight forward to 
configure than sendmail.

On Mon, 2004-10-18 at 21:11, Fabian Garcia wrote:
  
 
 I understand asterisk invokes sendmail in order to send email 
 notifications of messages left. Is there another application less 
 complicated than Sendmail, I already got mail servers else where and 
 they are the ones I want to use.
 
  
 
 Any light in this matter will be appreciated.

There are several replacements, but sendmail isn't any harder to config.
You usually only need to change 3 lines in the sendmail config.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SMTP MTA suggestions.

2004-10-19 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On October 18, 2004 09:11 pm, Fabian Garcia wrote:
 I understand asterisk invokes sendmail in order to send email notifications
 of messages left. Is there another application less complicated than
 Sendmail, I already got mail servers else where and they are the ones I
 want to use.

Nullmailer; why put a full blown MTA on your voice box -- nullmailer has its 
own queue and hands off everything to your favourite SMTP machine instead of 
trying to deliver to all the endpoints itself.  This keeps your mail system 
centralized and the control in one place, which is far easier to maintain 
that a full-blown MTA for ever server you have.

If you insist on a full MTA, Postfix gets my vote; it's every bit as secure as 
qmail (I have been using qmail for close to a decade now) but without the 
billion patches required to give qmail any kind of modern functionality.

-A.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SMTP MTA suggestions.

2004-10-19 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On October 19, 2004 05:48 am, james wrote:
 There are several replacements, but sendmail isn't any harder to config.
 You usually only need to change 3 lines in the sendmail config.

I suppose the reasons people are so anti-sendmail are several:

1. Security.  Sendmail has a track record of being Unix's most insecure MTA.
2. Confusion.  Sendmail's configuration is truly unweildy and unnecessarily 
complex.  c.f. postfix for a configuration interface that doesn't suck.
3. Size.  Why use a cannon swat a fly?  Sendmail will do everything and then 
some, but this is unnecessary complexity and bloat for something as simple as 
a forwarding-only mail server, which is generally all people want if they 
already have a world-class SMTP server doing spam/virus checking and so 
forth.

Sendmail is dead.  Long live the alternatives.

-A.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] SMTP MTA suggestions.

2004-10-19 Thread Deon Rodden
Laugh. I use a bare-bones install of QMail on my main asterisk server. It of
course emulates sendmail and the like.

But on my remote Asterisk server, I use ssmtp, it came as a prerequisite to
Asterisk. When I emerged asterisk, ssmtp came with it. Works great.
Configured it to use my main Asterisk server as the relay, my main asterisk
server only relays from the remote asterisk servers, and all is well. I also
have the remotes running ntpdate every 5 minutes to synchronize with ntpd
running on the main asterisk server. This way the times are in sync. 

By the time I got into Mail clients and building mail servers, sendmail was
already dying, and there was so much negativity about security, so I jumped
straight to QMail. Almost gave up on it (in favor of Exim) but then
discovered all the patches and enhancements people were continuing to make
on QMail. Gentoo has a nice QMail install.

Anyways, for maximum simplicity, I would recommend ssmtp. It works great,
gets the job done.

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On October 19, 2004 05:48 am, james wrote:
 There are several replacements, but sendmail isn't any harder to config.
 You usually only need to change 3 lines in the sendmail config.

I suppose the reasons people are so anti-sendmail are several:

1. Security.  Sendmail has a track record of being Unix's most insecure MTA.
2. Confusion.  Sendmail's configuration is truly unweildy and unnecessarily 
complex.  c.f. postfix for a configuration interface that doesn't suck.
3. Size.  Why use a cannon swat a fly?  Sendmail will do everything and then

some, but this is unnecessary complexity and bloat for something as simple
as 
a forwarding-only mail server, which is generally all people want if they 
already have a world-class SMTP server doing spam/virus checking and so 
forth.

Sendmail is dead.  Long live the alternatives.

-A.
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[Asterisk-Users] SMTP MTA suggestions.

2004-10-18 Thread Fabian Garcia










I understand asterisk invokes sendmail in order to send
email notifications of messages left. Is there another application less
complicated than Sendmail, I already got mail servers else where and they are
the ones I want to use. 



Any light in this matter will be appreciated.










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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SMTP MTA suggestions.

2004-10-18 Thread Dido Sevilla
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:11:11 -0400, Fabian Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I understand asterisk invokes sendmail in order to send email notifications
 of messages left. Is there another application less complicated than
 Sendmail, I already got mail servers else where and they are the ones I want
 to use. 

There's a small program called ssmtp:

ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/ssmtp

that basically acts as a sendmail-compatible program that sends mail
it is given by connecting to an external SMTP server. It is about as
bare bones as an MTA as you can get, and I'm surprised that it doesn't
see wider use than Debian and Gentoo (in particular it doesn't seem to
be present by default in Red Hat or Fedora).
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